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Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

captainOrbital posted:

There was one of the games in which I recall that Greenawalt used the 914 as an example of the game's upgrades and PI system before the game came out. Was that 2 or 3?

It was 2.

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Irish Legend
Aug 12, 2011
The Zr1 is a total pain in the rear end, but for those using assists, they are really slowing you down. The hardest thing about the Zr1 challenge is the braking point for the straightaway. I got frustrated enough to put brake line on, but it probably slowed me down on the rest of the course. With tcs off, of course throttle control is really important, and not easy on with the controller, but ABS is really easy to use, just mash the trigger ALMOST all the way down and you are good. Lastly moving to manual with clutch will likely save you at least a second a lap, even compared to regular manual times. I posted a 1:31.9XX after maybe ten laps, but I haven't used TCS on anything but R1 since Forza 2...

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

Irish Legend posted:

The Zr1 is a total pain in the rear end, but for those using assists, they are really slowing you down. The hardest thing about the Zr1 challenge is the braking point for the straightaway. I got frustrated enough to put brake line on, but it probably slowed me down on the rest of the course. With tcs off, of course throttle control is really important, and not easy on with the controller, but ABS is really easy to use, just mash the trigger ALMOST all the way down and you are good. Lastly moving to manual with clutch will likely save you at least a second a lap, even compared to regular manual times. I posted a 1:31.9XX after maybe ten laps, but I haven't used TCS on anything but R1 since Forza 2...

Yeah yeah I know, I'm trying. I'm just finding that throttle modulation with a trigger to be, well, not fun. :-/ I'll try dicking around with manual options tonight because having that god drat thing bounce between 1st and 2nd gear mid turn was making me grind my teeth.

As for the race line assist on Indy, holy loving :lol::lol: is it bad. I keep it on as a reference point on how to take a turn conservatively if I can't remember the turn but it's just flat out hilarious and terrible on that track.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Sounds like I need to stop playing ME3 and pick up Forza for some laps in the ZR1. :getin:

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Yeah yeah I know, I'm trying. I'm just finding that throttle modulation with a trigger to be, well, not fun. :-/ I'll try dicking around with manual options tonight because having that god drat thing bounce between 1st and 2nd gear mid turn was making me grind my teeth.

As for the race line assist on Indy, holy loving :lol::lol: is it bad. I keep it on as a reference point on how to take a turn conservatively if I can't remember the turn but it's just flat out hilarious and terrible on that track.

It's not hard. Hear tires squeal, let up on gas a bit. Once you get over the instinct to mash the gas every time you put the power on, it becomes really easy. I guarantee you will be a lot faster if you turn TCS off.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer
Whoever fauxpass is in GTCC i hate you and you made me swear allot trying to beat your weismann time.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Infineon Raceway is losing its title sponsor this year. Someone tell Simply Sausages to get on that.

einTier
Sep 25, 2003

Charming, friendly, and possessed by demons.
Approach with caution.

Hello Spaceman posted:

Ok it's time for Porsche talk.
T10 has said that we'll get 30 cars, with 7 never having featured before.
I'm kind of curious about what 7 new cars we'll be getting.

Porsche hasn't made that many distinctly different cars, what significant cars have never been offered? We all know that Turn 10 isn't the kind of publisher to just offer us a bunch of variations on the same car.

We've never had a 356, a first-gen 911 or a 912, the 918 spyder, the 924 (ick), the 928, a 968, and of course, there's seemingly about as many versions of the 911 as there are versions of the Nissan Skyline.

There's quite a few racing models we've not gotten, most significantly, the 917. There's also all the 90x models and the 93x models. Of course, maybe Turn 10 will surprise us with a tractor.

Jarf
Jun 25, 2006

PLATINUM



I said come in! posted:

Infineon Raceway is losing its title sponsor this year. Someone tell Simply Sausages to get on that.

I'm so absolutely in love with the idea of Donnington Park being sponsored by Simply Sausages (love you Top Gear).

They should expand their franchise and develop a foot hold in autosports. I'd support the Simply Sausages F1 team.

Kind of want to go to a track day there just so that when I'm asked how it was I can reply with "it was simply sausages".

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Idiot race posted:

Whoever fauxpass is in GTCC i hate you and you made me swear allot trying to beat your weismann time.

I know it's been debated at length, but this car is so drat frustrating.

Every once in a while you get it settled properly and you can absolutely scream through a corner, gets your confidence up, and on the very next corner you jostle the brakes just a tiny bit too much and the fucker slides right off the track. :argh:

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒

Jarf posted:

I'm so absolutely in love with the idea of Donnington Park being sponsored by Simply Sausages

I thought it was. I've never heard of this "simply sausages" and I thought it was a silly idea, but hey; what do I know?

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

xzzy posted:

I know it's been debated at length, but this car is so drat frustrating.

Every once in a while you get it settled properly and you can absolutely scream through a corner, gets your confidence up, and on the very next corner you jostle the brakes just a tiny bit too much and the fucker slides right off the track. :argh:

With the rear end end bouncing up and down like a fat kid on a trampoline.

WienerDog
Apr 8, 2007
Resident Rocking Dachshund
I had no trouble beating the target times on the previous KotT events, but this month is brutal. That track is not fun, all the corners look the same, and it's so wide I can't figure out a good line, because I always arrive at each corner at a different place on the track. Also that car is trying to kill me, all I have to do is look at it funny and the back whips around. And what's with the curbs on Indy, they aren't really tall or anything, but anytime I touch it the wheel slips off and I start spinning out...again.

Regarding that Wiesmann, it does ride hard as gently caress, but my problem is with the brakes. The issue is that they don't... stop the car.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

einTier posted:

There's quite a few racing models we've not gotten, most significantly, the 917. There's also all the 90x models and the 93x models. Of course, maybe Turn 10 will surprise us with a tractor.

I was thinking of a different "Porsche" with a "traction" drive. Something like, the Porsche Panzer VI, or the Sd. Kfz. 184 "Elefant", or even the Panzer VIII Maus.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

The Porsche pack has to have the 917. Also, Le Mans is the best movie ever.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

Hey you guys like to troll? I've got some pretty sick trolling skills. Just don't expect me to read anything.

-Colon Cowboy
I really don't understand why people are having a hard time with the ZR1. I drive with braking line as my only assist, normal steering and manual w/clutch and the button swap (clutch is A).

The car wants to understeer a ton, so you just have to be patient and easy on the gas.

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.

silverbullitt850 posted:

I really don't understand why people are having a hard time with the ZR1. I drive with braking line as my only assist, normal steering and manual w/clutch and the button swap (clutch is A).

The car wants to understeer a ton, so you just have to be patient and easy on the gas.
You are feeding my "Joe is a drat mutant" conspiracy theory...

Irish Legend
Aug 12, 2011

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Yeah yeah I know, I'm trying. I'm just finding that throttle modulation with a trigger to be, well, not fun. :-/ I'll try dicking around with manual options tonight because having that god drat thing bounce between 1st and 2nd gear mid turn was making me grind my teeth.

As for the race line assist on Indy, holy loving :lol::lol: is it bad. I keep it on as a reference point on how to take a turn conservatively if I can't remember the turn but it's just flat out hilarious and terrible on that track.

When you switch over to using manual, here is a couple things to help you out.
1)in the Zr1 and other high powered cars, there is almost no need to ever go back down to 1st gear. Just leave that beast in 2nd.

2) If you find yourself plowing through a turn off power, shift down one more gear, it usually helps reel the front back in and give you some bite. However this can have an adverse effect if you are turning just fine and shift down again, you will spin.

3) also along the lines of shifting, if it is losing too much tracking on upshift, do it "right" by letting off of the gas for a split second as you shift gear, it helps keep the tail in check.

I personally moved clutch to A, shift up to X and have shift down on B, but that is just the layout I like.

There is a lot more that you will find trying it out for yourself, but it will make you faster for sure once you get the hang of it.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
ZR1 is just essentially a crude Porsche GT3 RS with muscle-car steering instead of road feel. Drive it like the engine is in the back (brake early, turn in, use one gear lower than you thought you should but never go below mid-rev 2nd gear, ever, and then use throttle modulation to find the right angle as you come out) and it's much easier.

e: f;b on some of that.

JingleBells posted:

Turn 10 are missing a trick if they don't have a 956 and a Nordschleife rivals event
I thought I saw somewhere that they try and keep the rivals events to sub-6 minutes or something because the average pubbie jerkoff is all :qq: if they have to drive a whole 8 minutes in a row on one lap!!!

Jarf
Jun 25, 2006

PLATINUM



Irish Legend posted:

in the Zr1 and other high powered cars, there is almost no need to ever go back down to 1st gear. Just leave that beast in 2nd.

Though I agree that you don't need to go under 2nd gear on that track your turning circle will thank you for dropping to 1st if your speed is low enough.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

FM4 badly needs the 24 hour configuration of the 'Ring.

Irish Legend
Aug 12, 2011

Jarf posted:

Though I agree that you don't need to go under 2nd gear on that track your turning circle will thank you for dropping to 1st if your speed is low enough.

Ya that was kind of the second part of my schpeel. Still usually if you are dropping into first, you probably jacked the turn already anyway.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

Hey you guys like to troll? I've got some pretty sick trolling skills. Just don't expect me to read anything.

-Colon Cowboy
unless the car you're using has a first gear that goes up to 70

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
These rivals challenges this month are just pissing me off. lovely cars on lovely tracks. I think the Corvette would actually be fun to drive if it wasn't on Indy. But this Wiesmann is just terrible and I have no idea how anyone would ever want to buy it. I don't really understand how it is S class. It handles like poo poo, brakes like poo poo, and when you stomp on the gas it just slowly accelerates while bouncing down the track. It feels like it has no power when the tires grip, but it still somehow spins its lovely tires. Somehow the gears feel too short and too long at the same time. One gear takes too long to spool up, then the next gear is gone in a second. Germans made this car? I don't see how.

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.


einTier posted:

I'm kind of curious about what 7 new cars we'll be getting.

Porsche hasn't made that many distinctly different cars, what significant cars have never been offered? We all know that Turn 10 isn't the kind of publisher to just offer us a bunch of variations on the same car.

We've never had a 356, a first-gen 911 or a 912, the 918 spyder, the 924 (ick), the 928, a 968, and of course, there's seemingly about as many versions of the 911 as there are versions of the Nissan Skyline.

There's quite a few racing models we've not gotten, most significantly, the 917. There's also all the 90x models and the 93x models. Of course, maybe Turn 10 will surprise us with a tractor.

Panamera/FF grudge match is my dream. Make it happen, T10.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!
Ladies and Gentlemen, I am finished. I started on one, did one, and kept going. Here are the last 10 cars for Project 82. Crow T MacBot, Captain Howdy, and IOwnCalculus, you're up to pick!

73 of 82: "Goon Car" am I doing this rite guys :v: I'll add the :frog: as soon as I get it from greg.


74 of 82: "Sweden Special" There are 740 Swedish flags (actually visible) on this car. Also, I've grown to loathe the fenders on the Delta.


75 of 82: "Mild Seven" Base on another Porsche race car. Not sure why I'm doing this when it's going to be another two months before I can actually paint Porsches.


76 of 82: "Resume to Interviews" This could probably be considered another "goon car", all things considered.


77 of 82: "Mobil 1 Rally" Not another skittles car.


78 of 82: "The Sting" I took an Audi race car, and swapped the colors around to be the Abarth colors. If I had an Abarth scorpion, it'd go right on the roof. Did I mention I hate the fenders on the Delta?


79 of 82 "Relentless" When looking up the Bell Helicopters logo for the "Macross" themed cars, their front page had their Model 525 "Relentless" with a very pretty livery. This is a tribute.


80 of 82 "Ghost" Yes, there are decals on this car.


81 of 82 "Stealth" Yes, there are decals on this car.


82 of 82 "82" The last in line. (ooh, maybe I should've made a Dio car instead)

Jarf
Jun 25, 2006

PLATINUM



This calls for celebration. You should wrangle up 16 goons for a photo shoot in your Lancia Deltas.

Thanks again!
[tIMG]http://i.imgur.com/6PHIr.jpg][/tIMG]

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!
Maybe I should try to convince the GTCC guys to run this as a spec...

Otherwise, both Repsol paint jobs are two of my favorites.

Edit: How am I suppose to find/favorite JPM if he doesn't have anything on his store front that I can search him for?

CovfefeCatCafe fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Mar 10, 2012

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Awesome work man, those are really cool and you certainly finished strong - great set for that last batch. Thanks again for hooking me up with one!

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!




I love this game :allears:

Mac Tonight
Mar 12, 2006

aw yeah tahts it man
1:43:XXX clean on the KOTR. This is the best time I will post. I give up (and hopefully I get a car)

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Jarf posted:

In other news! The Aston Martin V12 Zagato handles like a dream and sounds beautiful.

I love how it transitions from a throaty growl to a smooth roar as you run into the higher RPMs.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I love how it transitions from a throaty growl to a smooth roar as you run into the higher RPMs.

I kinda like the sound and looks of the Zagato, and it handles okay, but seems slow and unresponsive. On the other hand, I'm really loving the new Weismann and the way it drives. Really asks to be pushed.

Flint Ironstag
Apr 2, 2004

Bob Johnson...oh, wait

YF19pilot posted:

Ladies and Gentlemen, I am finished. I started on one, did one, and kept going. Here are the last 10 cars for Project 82. Crow T MacBot, Captain Howdy, and IOwnCalculus, you're up to pick!

73 of 82: "Goon Car" am I doing this rite guys :v: I'll add the :frog: as soon as I get it from greg.




Crow here, the Goon car is perfect! And it already has my #73 on it.

Thanks, all these cars have been fantastic. I just wish I had the skill/creativity/patience combo to do a project like this.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Mmm, that stealth one is awesome. I'll take that one, please and thank you very much :)

Dukket
Apr 28, 2007
So I says to her, I says “LADY, that ain't OIL, its DIRT!!”
Three trucks in one direction and a bunch of cars in the other on the Amalfi coast is a blast!

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
If you're a Wayne's World fan you'll probably like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_3VtGkVx5A

Wrong car, but close enough.

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


100% digital native web developer

YF19pilot posted:

Maybe I should try to convince the GTCC guys to run this as a spec...

We should fukken do this.

Also, I put the :frog: vinyl up on my storefront in "share" instead of "sell" mode - search for "YOSPOS bithc"- but if that doesn't work, I sent you a friend request, so if you accept that I can gift you the vinyl all unlocked like, I think (:frogout: is locked but :frog: should be free).

Also, if you have cars left over, especially if we're going to do a spec race of these, can I get one? Whichever is your least favorite, I guess, or number 69 or the Marlboro one, if that's still around, would be fine.

Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!


I'd like #79, since it's my preferred number when I race, but boy those Macross/UN Spacey cars look really good too.

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Scirocco Griffon
Feb 3, 2012

So I just got the "thanks for bothering" car for last month's KotT.

Whoever painted it f'ed up on the license plate on the back and the outlining on the grille is noticably off-center. Not to mention the entire thing literally looks like something I could have slapped together in 10 minutes with stuff bought on the storefront. I know this blinged-up Bentley is the most worthless car in the entire game, but come ON. Was this a booby prize? At least it can be sold for 275,000 credits.

And now I just noticed the paint scheme on the Huayra from the CJ Wilson event is slightly crooked too. :ughh: I think I'll just pass on King of the Track events from now on, this is shameful.

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