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I haven't played Wasteland, Fallout, or Fallout 2. But I'm still giving away some of my money. I can't wait to get hosed by making the wrong choices. The video was all I needed to make such a decision.
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Well, Total Biscuit just posted a video about this Kickstarter (and that other not so hot Kickstarter), so that's going to be some good publicity.
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Mar 14, 2012 20:54
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Kicked in my $50, should have some money by the time this thing is set to be funded. All of you complaining about being broke, as long as you have the money by the time the project is to be funded (April 17th), then all will be ok, as it doesn't charge your account until that time.
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720k and only two of the 10k rewards, any of you rich RPG fans better be quick if you want to get those.
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Arne, who's pretty well known in the indie games scene for his concept art posted a little thumbnail sheet showing how the original Wasteland monsters could be updated in a manner that keeps more of the bizarre charm of the original game. I hope the dev team sees this during this early stage because he really makes the designs look great in these quick thumbnail sketches. Check it here: http://diglett.blogspot.com/2012/03/wasteland-2.html Also, does anyone know if Wasteland 2 has settled on isometric perspective, or a more classic top-down like the original? I've never liked third-person as much, as it tends to show less information on screen, and as beloved as Baldur's Gate and Fallout are, the pre-rendered models that seem to be a favourite of this team look like stiff, lifeless action figures.
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It really makes me laugh to see the popularity of the "old school big boxes". My family, myself included and nearly everyone I knew that played PC games when they came in those big boxes complained about how criminal it was to have these huge wastes of cardboard with a tiny (in comparison) jewel cases in it. They were also a pain in the rear end to store, they took up so much space and it was tiresome fluffing about with them when you needed to get at the game (disc had to be in the drive to play of course). I thought it was a huge improvement when they came in standard DVD cases with no box. Now that practically everything is digital it's even better, especially if it's DRM free. Replicate a setup file across multiple machines and install it, back it up to a file server etc. It's just quite humorous at how people look back with rose-tinted glasses, but that's nostalgia for you I suppose. Anyway, backed the project and am excited as all hell. 18 months though, what a downer.
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Mar 14, 2012 21:11
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Scut posted:Also, does anyone know if Wasteland 2 has settled on isometric perspective, or a more classic top-down like the original? That hasn't been officially announced yet. "We will have some concepts soon", is the only thing Fargo has announced so far. Personally, I'd love it to be an updated version of Wasteland's original top down perspective, but isometric seems more likely to me (especially given the fan feedback so far).
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Xik posted:It really makes me laugh to see the popularity of the "old school big boxes". My family, myself included and nearly everyone I knew that played PC games when they came in those big boxes complained about how criminal it was to have these huge wastes of cardboard with a tiny (in comparison) jewel cases in it. They were also a pain in the rear end to store, they took up so much space and it was tiresome fluffing about with them when you needed to get at the game (disc had to be in the drive to play of course). Jewel cases? Son, you are not thinking nearly far back enough: 
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Xik posted:It really makes me laugh to see the popularity of the "old school big boxes". My family, myself included and nearly everyone I knew that played PC games when they came in those big boxes complained about how criminal it was to have these huge wastes of cardboard with a tiny (in comparison) jewel cases in it. They were also a pain in the rear end to store, they took up so much space and it was tiresome fluffing about with them when you needed to get at the game (disc had to be in the drive to play of course). You actually stored your cases in the boxes? I had a separate rack for the jewel cases. Boxes would either go on a shelf, if I cared enough for the game, or into storage.
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Xik posted:It really makes me laugh to see the popularity of the "old school big boxes". My family, myself included and nearly everyone I knew that played PC games when they came in those big boxes complained about how criminal it was to have these huge wastes of cardboard with a tiny (in comparison) jewel cases in it. They were also a pain in the rear end to store, they took up so much space and it was tiresome fluffing about with them when you needed to get at the game (disc had to be in the drive to play of course). Shrug. Some people like having the boxes on display. I have a bookshelf filled with big boxes, hell I don't even have all the games that were in the boxes to begin with anymore. Oh how I love you giant earhbound box.
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Mar 14, 2012 21:20
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HotCanadianChick posted:Jewel cases? Son, you are not thinking nearly far back enough: Diskettes? Looks like you're the one looking too far in the future. 
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Mar 14, 2012 21:21
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Al! posted:Diskettes? Looks like you're the one looking too far in the future. Loved that old EA logo.
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Mar 14, 2012 21:23
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I threw in $50. Add me to the group who never played the original, but is still very interested based on the legacy of games that followed.
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Mar 14, 2012 21:28
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Honestly, I can't understand the point of the Hardcore Tactical Shooter kickstarter. I mean, Battlefield 3 and COD8 are the biggest games ever, and ArmA 3 is coming out. What exactly is the audience for this? edit: I guess a rainbow six style game would be cool, but SWAT4 AND R63 still hold up really well.
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Mar 14, 2012 21:30
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the black husserl posted:Honestly, I can't understand the point of the Hardcore Tactical Shooter kickstarter. I mean, Battlefield 3 and COD8 are the biggest games ever, and ArmA 3 is coming out. What exactly is the audience for this? People who really really like rainbow 6?
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Al! posted:Diskettes? Looks like you're the one looking too far in the future. Ha, I pulled my set of this out yesterday as well. For some reason though I cannot find my Wasteland box. I have everything else but not box, even the survival guide. WHAT THE gently caress. NOT OK.
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HotCanadianChick posted:Jewel cases? Son, you are not thinking nearly far back enough: Hah, that's right. I remember buying games on floppies that came in the big boxes too. Some of the cheap shovelware would sometimes even just have disks loose in the box. I can't even remember the last time I've even seen a disk, let alone used one.....
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Al! posted:Diskettes? Looks like you're the one looking too far in the future. The pic I posted was of 5 1/4" disks, not 3.5" disks. Both sizes were called "diskettes", because they were both smaller than the original 8" disks of yore. I still have a copy of Darklands on 5 1/4" disks that I haven't been able to play in years because my only 5 1/4" drive died long ago and nobody makes them anymore. e: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Floppy_disk_2009_G1.jpg Militant Lesbian fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Mar 14, 2012 |
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Scut posted:Arne, who's pretty well known in the indie games scene for his concept art posted a little thumbnail sheet showing how the original Wasteland monsters could be updated in a manner that keeps more of the bizarre charm of the original game. I've just tweeted it to Fargo, and he tweeted back "Cool. I love the fan art."
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I loved the old school big boxes and was saddened by the change to DVD style cases. The change to DVD cases helped push along that trend of making lovely tiny manuals that tell you only the bare basics. Now you're lucky if you get a PDF manual with most games.  I've still got my Falcon 4.0 box complete with huge manual, smaller starter guide and that big rear end map of the Korean peninsula.  I always wanted the ring-binder style manual though, but this one was still pretty drat cool. I remember Fallout 1 manual being really cool, and Baldur's Gate 1 had an awesome manual full of backstory and characters, and a huge thing at the back detailing all the D&D rules in the game. Arcanum's manual was also awesome and even had a recipe in it. I'm looking forward to my Wasteland 2 big box and manual.
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Peas and Rice posted:Ha, I pulled my set of this out yesterday as well. I wish that was my set. I don't have ANY of my old PC games anymore, because I'm an idiot who throws stuff away too readily. On the flip-side it's not like I own anything that can read a floppy.
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Al! posted:I wish that was my set. I don't have ANY of my old PC games anymore, because I'm an idiot who throws stuff away too readily. On the flip-side it's not like I own anything that can read a floppy. That's cool. We can't all be hardcore.  If you do want to play WL right off your floppies.. there are options. Actually that thing only reads, not writes. Best you can do is copy your files to your hard drive. But still.
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Al! posted:Diskettes? Looks like you're the one looking too far in the future. Man, what an awesome boxart.
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Little late to the party, but I've been waiting for this game for 20 years--I'm in for $100. I played the original religiously in high school on my Apple II, and it was one of the first games I broke over my knee--dozens of copies of Disk 3 to grind the robot sewers until my lead character was a General, and exploding enemies with my bloodthirsty Proton Ax-wielding team. (Seriously, Proton Axes were just broken. With the right skills they could do far more damage than even LAW rockets)
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the black husserl posted:Honestly, I can't understand the point of the Hardcore Tactical Shooter kickstarter. I mean, Battlefield 3 and COD8 are the biggest games ever, and ArmA 3 is coming out. What exactly is the audience for this? I donated to the Hardcore Tactical Shooter kickstarter for $100 as well as Wasteland 2 for 75 bucks, and while I agree SWAT4 and Raven Shield hold up well, it would be nice to see something more along those lines being made. ARMA controls like poo poo, and seems to confuse needless complexity for depth (do I really need buttons to salute and put earlplugs in?), as much as I appreciate the fact someone is still making a game like that, and Battlefield and COD aren't in the same league despite the cosmetic similarities, although Battlefield 3 is still an amazing game. I do think there is more of a need for games like Wasteland at this point, though, but make no mistake, if somehow a SWAT 5 kickstarter happened I would have trouble not throwing all my money at it  .
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The RPG Codex 5k thing gave me an idea. You know what would be cool? If, when you’re making a pledge, you could put a tag like #somethingawful or #nma or #reddit or whatever and that pledge would also count toward that community’s common money pool. And while we wouldn’t get, like, extra figurines and poo poo, we would get to name a town or put up a statue of Johnny Five-Aces or whatever other dumb meme we picked. You could have a separate system of tiers for communities with different in-game stuff. This, I feel, would lead to more pledges as people inside communities would try to get more people to pledge and there’d probably be some competition among communities and stuff like that. Too bad Kickstarter doesn’t support this at all. But maybe a page could be set up where we could send screenshots of our pledges with “this is for #somethingawful”. Anyone think this isn’t terrible?
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Al! posted:Diskettes? Looks like you're the one looking too far in the future. I got rid of my original floppies way back when, and I payed like $70 for a copy of the Interplay 10th Anniversary to get a new copy recently. Put me down for $250 toward this project. It better have a kickass team photo though  EDIT: (radios base) DOO DEE DOOO DOOO (salute) CapnBry fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Mar 14, 2012 |
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Well, I threw my $15 into the pile. I used to keep all of the boxes from games when I was a kid, the pile in my room was almost as tall as me. They all got tossed when I moved, though.
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I am splitting my response into multiple posts because seriously I may not be able to keep up with new posts otherwise teehee!Dewgy posted:So I never played Wasteland and I don't even really like WRPGs/CRPGs that much, but gently caress it. This kind of thing is cool and I love this industry. HotCanadianChick posted:I've thought about throwing together an old Win95/DOS machine from time to time, but I really don't see the point in it when DOSbox works so well and is pretty much easier to use and setup than an actual DOS machine. Hell, if you don't want to mess around with making config files for each game, you can just use a GUI interface for DOSbox like D-Fend Reloaded and never type a single thing. It sure beats the old days where I had to make custom boot disks with menus in autoexec.bat so I could pick the correct EMS/XMS/CD driver/Mouse driver settings for whichever game I was planning to play. VendoViper posted:Well they just got my money! Thanks for putting up this thread, otherwise I wouldn't have heard about the kickstart. Of course now instead of working at all today I am going to have to go rustle up a copy of Wasteland, I haven't played through that game in years. Copper Vein posted:This might be my last chance for a new game in a proper big box, so I'm in. Guess I've got two years to struggle with whether or not to open it. Rupert Buttermilk posted:I'll be pledging as soon as I can, but for now, I have a 17 hour busride ahead of me, and a laptop with Boxer (mac) and the original Wasteland. Fwoderwick posted:That said, it was my only experience of Wasteland and is enough for me to wonder about paying $65 for UK shipping. Although given the emphatic and slightly eye twitching encouragement I'll probably get from Quarex I guess that decision is already made. Approaching $750,000. Probably there by the time you read this!
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Sergeant Steiner posted:I do think there is more of a need for games like Wasteland at this point, though, but make no mistake, if somehow a SWAT 5 kickstarter happened I would have trouble not throwing all my money at it Okay, I see your point. I'd rather have SWAT 5 than ten Double Fine adventures. Hell they wouldn't even have to change the engine, just more levels. SWAT 5
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 God, I hope this form of development ends up becoming successful. Average computing power and digital distribution being what they are, there's no need for publishers anymore. If all it takes is $100 from 10,000 nerds to get a good game nowadays, then we may as well have just entered a new golden age of gaming.
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I really like that the average pledge is between 50 and 60 dollars, even though the minimum to get the game is 15.
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HiriseSoftware posted:Donating at least $50... looking forward to igniting some Serpioids with my firelance! Peas and Rice posted:You know that like the entire original Wasteland design team is doing this project right, including Ken St Andre who hasn't done anything C-RPG related pretty much since the original? Pre-post edit: As I check Brian Fargo's Twitter feed and see him say "Liz Danforth is back on board--she did the Highpool map!" Jesus. He really is helping us all live the dream. uftheory posted:My point is I want to play WASTELAND again and this will, if anything, make that longing worse. Jean Pony posted:The $2,5k tier hasn't gotten any pledges. $1,5k for a blood sausage collectible does indeed seem steep and kinda lackluster compared to the $1k and $5k tier. Maybe they could've done $1k = become wepon or location $2.5k = become NPC. Scut posted:Check it here: http://diglett.blogspot.com/2012/03/wasteland-2.html
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Social Dissonance posted:If all it takes is $100 from 10,000 nerds to get a good game nowadays, then we may as well have just entered a new golden age of gaming. I think people should temper their expectations somewhat, otherwise this will only end in a huge backlash. For every 5 games you support this way, only 1 will be really great, 3 will be okay and 1 will be crap. The reason to support them anyway is that all of them will be of a genre/type/whatever no big publisher would ever touch, so even the okay ones are a net win.
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Pledged my $15 to the cause! I never played Wasteland but Fallout owns so I imagine this will own too
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Thanks everybody for your donations! Thanks also for (maybe) reading my endless posts!Xik posted:It's just quite humorous at how people look back with rose-tinted glasses, but that's nostalgia for you I suppose. HotCanadianChick posted:The pic I posted was of 5 1/4" disks, not 3.5" disks. Both sizes were called "diskettes", because they were both smaller than the original 8" disks of yore. I still have a copy of Darklands on 5 1/4" disks that I haven't been able to play in years because my only 5 1/4" drive died long ago and nobody makes them anymore. Also, I also hilariously have a copy of Darklands that I have no disk drive to run (I found it in a bundle with Daggerfall for $3 at the Gen-Con auction  ). I am seriously considering the thing Peas and Rice posted about, because I have about 200 5 1/4" floppies that COULD HAVE ANYTHING ON THEM WHO KNOWS probably just saved games from Star Command and Might & Magic 2Rinkles posted:Loved that old EA logo. Vince Videogames posted:Man, what an awesome boxart. 
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Just a shade under $150,000 to go halfway through the second day. I doubt this will end up with more than Double Fine's effort, I mean I really doubt it, but if it does it'll be great.
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Nilbop posted:Just a shade under $150,000 to go halfway through the second day. Double Fine hit a million in 20 hours, IIRC, so this isn't really on track for that, but who knows if different audiences mean different donation trends. It's already starting very differently with a ton of huge 10k+ donations
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Down for $100. Wasteland was one of the first computer games I remember playing. If only I could pledge $10k since I probably live a few blocks from where the party could happen. Maybe I can crash it Paparazzi style.
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