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Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
I typically don't go in for the whole St. Paddy's day bullshit since it's generally overcrowded bars with frat douchebags who can't handle their green budlight. But the Bruery's tasting room is having a hop oil green coloring they can add to your drink, so I may be actually excited for once to turn my beer green...

That and the rain in L.A. typically means lovely drivers on top of more police presence on the road and drunk drivers means I'd rather stay in with some beer from the local shop than go out.

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Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

Hey guys I got DLD tickets too. Group 2. Let's have a meet-up. :dance:

RocketMermaid
Mar 30, 2004

My pronouns are She/Heir.


Does anybody know how much differently DLD functions from how it did a few years back? I last went in 2009, and I didn't have a Golden Ticket but just wanted to hang out with friends in line. I ended up getting one at the venue anyway because they had a ton of extras there, but I would have been perfectly happy not buying any Dark Lord and just sharing beer with friends. Is it still possible to do that, or do they kick your rear end off the premises if you don't have a ticket? Again, I don't care about actually buying any so much as hanging out with folks.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Ubik posted:

Does anybody know how much differently DLD functions from how it did a few years back? I last went in 2009, and I didn't have a Golden Ticket but just wanted to hang out with friends in line. I ended up getting one at the venue anyway because they had a ton of extras there, but I would have been perfectly happy not buying any Dark Lord and just sharing beer with friends. Is it still possible to do that, or do they kick your rear end off the premises if you don't have a ticket? Again, I don't care about actually buying any so much as hanging out with folks.

This page http://www.darklordday.com/ says you have to have a tickets for entry, so looks like you can't just hang without one. :/

RocketMermaid
Mar 30, 2004

My pronouns are She/Heir.


Sirotan posted:

This page http://www.darklordday.com/ says you have to have a tickets for entry, so looks like you can't just hang without one. :/

Well, that's balls. A lot of bars in Chicago usually have pre-DLD events going on, so I'll probably just go to one of those. Or maybe some of us can arrange a beer hangout up in the city and avoid all the mess of driving to and from Muenster.

Weebay
Apr 8, 2008

Reality is a question of perspective; the further you get from the past, the more concrete and plausible it seems - but as you approach the present, it inevitably seems incredible.
I'll confirm that for you, if you don't have a ticket, they won't let you in; the event was getting too crowded so they capped it.

Hey Paul Proteus you going again this year?

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


Weebay posted:

I'll confirm that for you, if you don't have a ticket, they won't let you in; the event was getting too crowded so they capped it.

Hey Paul Proteus you going again this year?

The second ticket i got is for him, since he couldn't be at a computer this morning.

Weebay
Apr 8, 2008

Reality is a question of perspective; the further you get from the past, the more concrete and plausible it seems - but as you approach the present, it inevitably seems incredible.
Nice, I'm the Canadian goon that was on the bus with him and won the Pappy DL he bumped into last year. We should all plan to meet up.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Out on a St. Paddys Day pub crawl, this beer (New Holland Mad Hatter) was kinda poo poo, but it made me think of this thread:

http://imgur.com/dUOtw.jpg

sweet lacing bro

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


ugh, stupid Awful App, breaking bbcode and making me double post

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

Sure it aint dishwasher liquid residue?

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


SUPER HASSLER posted:

Sure it aint dishwasher liquid residue?

That could explain the terribly watery taste.

I dont do the lovely green beer thing, so now I'm drinking an Oro de Calabaza at Jolly Pumpkin. They should have dyed it green, would have been cool.

I live in a college town and have been wandering around for about 4 hours. Somehow, no piles of puke to be seen yet. I'm getting out of here before the real debauchery starts though.

The Dregs
Dec 29, 2005

MY TREEEEEEEE!
Went on my first brewery tour today (if you could call it that) Red Hare in Marietta. You get 4 tickets just for walking through the door, which are good for 4 five oz. samples. We bought pint glass souvenirs and found out that if you used them, five oz. magically became 10 oz. Only one ticket could be used for the red IPA-I guess it is either expensive or really popular.

I tried the porter, which was very nice; the lager, which I really liked despite the aroma of old cat piss; the Watership Brown ale, which I had high hopes for but dissapointed me, and a 9.6abv imperial red IPA which I am clearly not ready to appreciate yet. Nasty.

The tour was really quick. the brewery is tiny and the guide had been up all night brewing. Plus he had downed about 4 beers in an hour like the rest of us, so he had a pretty good buzz going. The tap room was full of happy beer drinkers, though. I had lots of fun and I can't wait to convince some people to try it with me.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

The Dregs posted:

Went on my first brewery tour today (if you could call it that) Red Hare in Marietta. You get 4 tickets just for walking through the door, which are good for 4 five oz. samples. We bought pint glass souvenirs and found out that if you used them, five oz. magically became 10 oz. Only one ticket could be used for the red IPA-I guess it is either expensive or really popular.

I tried the porter, which was very nice; the lager, which I really liked despite the aroma of old cat piss; the Watership Brown ale, which I had high hopes for but dissapointed me, and a 9.6abv imperial red IPA which I am clearly not ready to appreciate yet. Nasty.

The tour was really quick. the brewery is tiny and the guide had been up all night brewing. Plus he had downed about 4 beers in an hour like the rest of us, so he had a pretty good buzz going. The tap room was full of happy beer drinkers, though. I had lots of fun and I can't wait to convince some people to try it with me.
Why is it that the last week has brought all the cat-pee beer stories?

The Dregs
Dec 29, 2005

MY TREEEEEEEE!
I don't know! But the beer smelled just like when my cat pees on a blanket and I don't notice it for a few days. The wife agreed. tasted great, though.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

It'd seem a lot of folks in this thread own incontinent cats.

In other news, I walked up and down main street in Breckenridge (the town) earlier and it was about what I expected. The rehab center is gonna be very full overnight. The "come here tourists" Irish pub, it turned out was charging a $20 cover (which came with a glass and a free green Coors), so I declined.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!
Car bombs with Young's = :)

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...
Im behind on beer blogging so I'm going to do a little quick catchup.


St Somewhere Cynthiana, basically a rather effervescent Belgian Amber with a good dose of wine grapes. I was expecting this to be pretty sour as St Somewhere is known to do, but it was actually incredibly drinkable and nuanced. Slightly tart, a little Belgian biscuit-like amber character, and then a good but not overpowering wine character that really complimented the base beer. Quite enjoyable.


Stillwater Folklore, some kind of Belgian porter / stout that was a little flat and harsh at first but after a little warming up and some breathing it opened up into a really complex interesting beer. A little bit of Belgian esters and a good balance between big bodied and dry, it comes off as a good not roasty porter with some earthiness, a little spice, unsweetened dark chocolate and a hint of brown sugar. Very nice.


I had a leftover Hopslam from 2011 and did a fun experiment with some 2012 Hopslam one night. New Hopslam is quite sweet though not cloying, fresh and hoppy (duh) and pretty tasty.
Old hopslam actually held up better than I expected, the oxidization was strong and the hops were pretty muted but better than I would have guessed this beer aged for a year would have been. If I had been served this at a bar I would have returned it though, with some of the residual sweetness gone (age) and the loss of all fresh hops flavors and then the bombardment of oxidized pale beer character makes it not very good.
I did keep it in my fridge at 37f the whole time though, so its fairly favorable aging circumstances. I consider it a date study as to why all beers (especially IPAs) should be date stamped with when they were brewed in a way thats easy for consumers to read.


Marin White Knuckle Imperial IPA. Great beer. Stupidly, abrasively, acidically hoppy with a balanced level of malt character to back it up while not being sweet. Near the end I was kind of thinking its a little bit like an Imperial Deschutes Red Chair.


When I heard they were making a new batch of this for early 2012 release I was trepidations, the original 2010 batch remains among one of my favorite all time beers. I often describe it as "St Sixtus and Orval doing a collaboration beer" as it marries the great qualities of a nice quad with the nice funkiness of Orval.
The reason for my doubts was the fact that the brain behind this beer, Chad Yakobson, had left Odell in late 2010 or early 2011 to start his own brewery, Crooked Stave. Chad is an amazing brewer and is amazing with his use of brett and I thought that it would be hard for them to pull it off again without his expertise.
Fortunately for Odell pull it off they did, with some slight differences that are neither improvements or downgrades. It still pulls off a good rich quad character with a nice brett B pineapple funk to it and a nice subtle underlying vanilla oak character. Also like Orval its carbonated as gently caress and likes to outgrow the glass its put in.
I would say its got a little more robust dark malt character compared to the first batch and is a little more boldly flavored overall and not quite as nuanced as the first batch. I'm going to have to go and pick up a few more of these before its gone.

pakman
Jun 27, 2011

I had a Lagunitas Cappuccino Stout with my dinner tonight. I don't do the Guinness thing anymore since I discovered beer a few years back. This is really good if you like coffee because you can definitely taste it. Was very smooth to drink, as well. :cheers: Happy St. Patrick's Day.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

It should be added that Crooked Stave is totally the real deal when it comes to Brett stuff. One of the great things about living in CO. Not that Funkwerks is inferior, but.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

SUPER HASSLER posted:

In other news, I walked up and down main street in Breckenridge (the town) earlier and it was about what I expected. The rehab center is gonna be very full overnight. The "come here tourists" Irish pub, it turned out was charging a $20 cover (which came with a glass and a free green Coors), so I declined.

I ended up spending ALL of St Paddys waiting to be rebooked from a canceled flight (:bang:), after finally landing in home sweet Denver we grabbed dinner in LoDo. Hoooooooly crap it was a shitshow down there and we were out before 9PM. Saw so many people almost get hit by cars just staggering into traffic. Wasn't quite as nuts as when I lived in South Boston but at least Southie has the excuse of actually being a historical (and to some extent, current) Irish slum!

Got home and skipped the beer, went straight to whiskey. It's been that kind of day.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???
Nothing says Irish like a...Saison? The wife and I hit up a casino buffet and were home by 5:30. We life an exciting life.

Stillwater's Cellar Door saison in the glass tonight. VERY similar to Lost Abbey's Red Barn. Massive head, looks piss-beer gold (that should be a crayon color), has a robust musty smell with an awesome balance of grassy and citrusy freshness (coming from white sage and Citra), and finishes clean - a bit of a change of pace from other American saisons which seem by default to put up a brett/yeasty finish in the rear of the tongue.

It's almost unfortunate it's so close to Red Barn, as I can get Red Barn for 50% less than Cellar Door, but this was my first foray into Stillwater's catalog and I'll be trying their other offerings soon.

Also, last night was time for Anchorage Brewing Company's Love Buzz saison.

What a weird loving beer.

It punched me in the throat on first pop with a blast of rose hips. I have bad associations with rose scents due to this terrible rose-scented perfume my grandma used to have and used as an air freshener when I was a little kid. Nevertheless, it grew on me gradually, and by the end it fell into the 'I might not get this again but I'm very glad I tried it' category. It's a little pricey, but it's beers like this which tend to challenge what we think we like and/or expect in certain styles and lead to more creativity from talented brewers. Recommended.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

rage-saq posted:

I did keep it in my fridge at 37f the whole time though, so its fairly favorable aging circumstances. I consider it a date study as to why all beers (especially IPAs) should be date stamped with when they were brewed in a way thats easy for consumers to read.

I think it's fairly obvious why most Breweries don't use a brewed or bottled date vs. a "best by" date: because the bottling/brew date means nothing to retailers that just keep them on the shelves until they go away and/or 90% of the buyers have no real knowledge-base to understand when a beer is too old vs. old enough.

Besides, the beer geek community itself is rapidly becoming unreasonable and refusing to drink beer that came out of the fermenter more than a week before drinking.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
Some Moylan's kilt lifter for me tonight. I love that beer.

And hey, it fits a theme.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
job #2 is at a bookstore in an area heavily-populated by bars and nightclubs, so my "holiday experience" consisted mainly of watching drunk stumble down the sidewalk yelling and bumping into things. oh, and two bros who tried to steal the big wooden sign that hangs over our door at like 4pm. seriously.

my disappointing beer experience was Wasatch Polygamy Porter. the label says, "Why Have Just One!" but there is definitely an extra word in there ("just," or possibly "why"). good on them for going against the trend and making something dark and low-ABV (4%), but it has almost no flavor. not spit-take awful, but certainly one of the blandest, least-interesting beers i've tried. drank some year-old Chocolate Yeti and enjoyed that much more- the hops have obviously mellowed some, but i was surprised that it still had a bit of a spicy kick at the end.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!
I tried Hopslam for the 2nd time last night. The first time I tried it, it was from the first batch this year (I believe), and I didn't think it was anything that spectacular.

The batch I tried last night was bottled 2/15/12 and it was absolutely phenomenal. It wasn't quite as sweet as the first batch which I had tried, and I enjoyed it much more as a result.

I almost wish it was lower ABV so I could drink more of them because it's so drat delicious. I drank three last night, and then made the mistake of opening a fourth. I got about half way through the fourth and realized I was way too drunk and should cap myself off if I wanted to be able to stand during the concert... I'm probably just a huge lightweight though, I don't drink all that much despite loving the suds.

Paul Proteus
Dec 6, 2007

Zombina says "si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes!"

Weebay posted:

I'll confirm that for you, if you don't have a ticket, they won't let you in; the event was getting too crowded so they capped it.

Hey Paul Proteus you going again this year?

Yes, I remember you and your friend. I think I still have you business card (I sadly haven't gotten the chance to use it by going to Canada though =/).

Like Shane said, he grabbed me a ticket because I was seriously in Pre-Cana class all day on St. Patrick's day. I would love to try to work something out beforehand. I've had random success rates planning meets for DLD, but I'd be all up for it again. I know I'll be bringing some random things like last time.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!
anyone else as hung over as me?

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence
why is brooklyn lager so good?

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!

TenaciousTomato posted:

why is brooklyn lager so good?

Having it fresh in NYC is always nice.

Kosher man
May 8, 2002
God I felt dead this morning. I must have ate 40-50 oysters yesterday during the oyster stout brew and drank far to much. Today's brew day was not much fun.

Weebay
Apr 8, 2008

Reality is a question of perspective; the further you get from the past, the more concrete and plausible it seems - but as you approach the present, it inevitably seems incredible.

Paul Proteus posted:

Yes, I remember you and your friend. I think I still have you business card (I sadly haven't gotten the chance to use it by going to Canada though =/).

Like Shane said, he grabbed me a ticket because I was seriously in Pre-Cana class all day on St. Patrick's day. I would love to try to work something out beforehand. I've had random success rates planning meets for DLD, but I'd be all up for it again. I know I'll be bringing some random things like last time.

Awesome! I have a pile of stuff to bring, I've been making a lot of trips to the states for beer this year, e-mail me at the address on the card and we will set something up.

the yellow dart
Jul 19, 2004

King of rings, armlocks, hugs, and our hearts
I drank a Titan IPA from Great Divide the other day and didn't care for it much. It just tasted salty with some weird hop flavors going on. Maybe it was because I let it warm up a bit too much but definitely not a favorite. I did get to try Expedition Stout which is delicious and tonight I'm drinking some old Orval I found on the shelves bottled in 2010 :coal:

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

TenaciousTomato posted:

why is brooklyn lager so good?

I hate when I recommend it to people at my store when they're used to Budweiser and they say they can't tell the difference...

Tonight I'm doing a beer pairing with cheese for my first time, I picked up a variety of cheeses but really don't know how to pair cheese and beer. I picked up some cheddar cheese with maple and bacon and I plan to pair it with a Flying Fish Exit 8, I figure it'll be a good pair at least.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

SUPER HASSLER posted:

Oh snap that's out now?! :jumps in car, drives to Longmont:

Apparently Left Hand Smokejumper 2012 is now available or will be very soon :razz:

Kosher man
May 8, 2002

Midorka posted:

I hate when I recommend it to people at my store when they're used to Budweiser and they say they can't tell the difference...

Tonight I'm doing a beer pairing with cheese for my first time, I picked up a variety of cheeses but really don't know how to pair cheese and beer. I picked up some cheddar cheese with maple and bacon and I plan to pair it with a Flying Fish Exit 8, I figure it'll be a good pair at least.

You are in luck as the Brewers Association put together a great PDF that can help out big time if you want to do some beer and food pairing and also provides some nice little info on beer styles.

http://www.beertown.org/education/pdf/beer&food.pdf

Ok that link is broken try this one

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...cMWBdFidezf7kvw

Kosher man fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Mar 19, 2012

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


Jack Skeleton posted:

I typically don't go in for the whole St. Paddy's day bullshit since it's generally overcrowded bars with frat douchebags who can't handle their green budlight. But the Bruery's tasting room is having a hop oil green coloring they can add to your drink, so I may be actually excited for once to turn my beer green...
They had that at the Reserve Society event. I put it in some Hangar 24 DIPA and realized that yes, I *do* know what Centennial hops taste like. It was kind of impressive how much of the oil could be added with the beer remained palatable.

Things of particular interest I did in Anaheim and San Diego this weekend:
- Went to Red Poppy Release Day at Lost Abbey. It was nearly as crowded as I've ever seen it (it's worse when beer tours come in), but they have a system down and it wasn't at all difficult to get my doses of Poppy and have a few tasters. This year's Poppy isn't nearly as good as 2008/9 was fresh. It's all lacto sourness (like sauerkraut) with no acetic bite and very little funkiness at present. I'm hoping it will age well. Track Three (on-site drinking only) is a very tasty but not terribly remarkable geuze; it's well-executed but not outstanding in any trait.
- Had a tasting flight at Bruery Provisions that included Humulus, Chocosaurus Rye, and Sour in the Rye. Chocosaurus Rye smells exactly like a Tootsie Roll and tastes a lot like one as well.
- Picked up enough Chocolate Rain, Smoking Wood, and other things as a Society allotment to, if I were the kind of person to ebay beer, pay for my entire trip (including bottle shop purchases) and make a tidy profit. I'm not, sadly, so I'll just have to drink through these beers on my own. It's a terrible burden I assure you.
- Did some tasters at Noble Ale Works. I forget what the special write-in beer was called, but it was their Alpha Red aged in oak barrels. Decent, interesting, but not outstanding. Knight Changer, on the other hand, is a very well-done stout and I recommend it.
- Attended the Reserve Society tasting. There was a ten-ticket limit, which seemed pretty light for the number of things on offer. Thankfully I was with a friend who shares, so we both got to try 20 things. Almost everything was at least palatable. The best of the day was probably Sour in the Rye with kumquats - it had amazing citrus/apricot flavors, and the rye spiciness was the perfect touch of citrus peel-like bitterness. Smoking Wood with bacon tasted like a chocolate-covered slice of bacon, smoky and meaty and totally delicious. Melange 1 was a near perfect sour, I kind of want a few bottles. Not so impressive were Melange 3 (candy-sweet and not much to recommend) and barrel aged 2009 Autumn Maple (I have yet to taste a variant of this beer with much flavor besides marshmallow-covered sweet potato casserole, and aging didn't help). Salt of the Earth, a goze with truffle salt and a lot of other weird things, was probably the coolest beer of the day; it had a ton of mushroomy and savory flavors, and I'd love to pair it with any savory dish.
- Shared a bottle of uber-limited-run test beer from my local brewery (18 bottles total made) with friends.
- Split a Churchill's Finest Hour while sitting next to a table with no fewer than three screaming toddlers.
- Spent too much at a nice bottle shop.

I didn't get to visit all the places in San Diego I wanted to. Alesmith, Ballast Point, Alpine, and a dozen or so others will have to wait until next time. Despite that, it was a fantastic beer vacation. Now I need a few months to drink what I brought back (three cases and a few loose bottles) and let my bank account recover.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

SUPER HASSLER posted:

It should be added that Crooked Stave is totally the real deal when it comes to Brett stuff. One of the great things about living in CO. Not that Funkwerks is inferior, but.

Bring some next time you come to TX!

I had Adelbert's biere de garde recently and this was my second experience where the cork popped itself off, flying across the room upon removal of the cage. The beer itself wasn't a total gusher, fortunately, and it's got a lot of spice/coriander notes. Remarkable how different this was from the other biere de garde I tried from Southern Star, which was more refreshing like a saison. What are other beers within this style that I should try?

Josh Wow
Feb 28, 2005

We need more beer up here!
Southhampton makes an awesome biere de garde, it's a seasonal though it should be out now. They call it a Biere de Mars but it's the same thing.

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Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
Then I'd certainly be a damned fool to feel any other way, wouldn't I?
NYC for St. Paddy's weekend was nuts, but a lot of fun. Only made it to midnight on Sat. night, hung out at the Blind Tiger, which was crowded as hell but we still managed to snag seats at the bar. Was really disappointed because they had Ommegang's Aphrodite on tap, but the keg kicked just before we got there.

Rattle'n'Hum on Friday night was my favorite stop, they were busy but not packed, we got a table, the waitresses were quick and the beer was great. Had Southampton's Biere de Mars, which was just loving fantastic with some food, like drinking a glass of fresh baked bread. Wanted to make it to Ginger Man, but we just ran out of energy at the end of the night.

Brooklyn Brewery was cool, the tour was quick, but better than most. Their history and how they got started in Williamsburg (including run ins with the mafia) is interesting as hell, and the tour guy was entertaining. Had their Irish Stout on cask, which was really, really good. The rest of the stuff they had on that I tried was good, but nothing that stood out as outstanding.

Josh Wow posted:

Southhampton makes an awesome biere de garde, it's a seasonal though it should be out now. They call it a Biere de Mars but it's the same thing.

Haha, wow, speak of the devil...

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