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shyguy posted:Not barring the whole division champ anomaly, I wonder how much home ice really matters over the fact that generally the team with home ice is just better to begin with. That's usually how they get there. look at home-away records this year. some teams who are mediocre in the standings (ie washington) have superb home records (there are of course some teams where it is the opposite but there are far far less in that category).
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Do guys coming out of retirement/back to the NHL (Selanne, Sundin, Radulov, etc.) require much adjustment or time to get their legs back under them for the NHL game? The reason I ask is I'm looking at picking up Radulov in a Fantasy league, but don't know if it'll be a wasted roster spot if he may not do much while re-adjusting to the Preds system. I know this has happened before, but I never paid that much attention other than being aware that guys came out of retirement or back from overseas. Is it like riding a bike or will it take a few games?
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CBJSprague24 posted:Do guys coming out of retirement/back to the NHL (Selanne, Sundin, Radulov, etc.) require much adjustment or time to get their legs back under them for the NHL game? The reason I ask is I'm looking at picking up Radulov in a Fantasy league, but don't know if it'll be a wasted roster spot if he may not do much while re-adjusting to the Preds system. I don't think you can really say, it'll vary by player. e: But the safe bet is that yeah, it will take a few games.
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Mar 23, 2012 00:22
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The biggest adjustment for someone like Radulov (i.e., not an old dude) is the rink size right? They use the bigger international-sized rinks in the KHL (I'm assuming) so that's usually an adjustment.
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Mar 23, 2012 00:24
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CBJSprague24 posted:Do guys coming out of retirement/back to the NHL (Selanne, Sundin, Radulov, etc.) require much adjustment or time to get their legs back under them for the NHL game? The reason I ask is I'm looking at picking up Radulov in a Fantasy league, but don't know if it'll be a wasted roster spot if he may not do much while re-adjusting to the Preds system. Radulov has been fully active for the entire time he's been out and has played a few years on an NHL rink - he's about as ready as a guy can be without having been in an NHL lineup for this year. He also doesn't suffer old man syndrome like Sundin and theoretically Selanne (who was recently confirmed to be ageless). Without knowing what kind of league it is, I'd still probably pick him up.
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Mar 23, 2012 00:41
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You can see it a lot when guys come back from injuries.. they generally look like poo poo for 2-3 games before they get back into the swing of things. Pro hockey is such a massive grind, any interruption has a huge impact on performance.
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myron cope posted:The biggest adjustment for someone like Radulov (i.e., not an old dude) is the rink size right? They use the bigger international-sized rinks in the KHL (I'm assuming) so that's usually an adjustment. The biggest adjustment is that the NHL is a flat out better league than the KHL.
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Mar 23, 2012 07:21
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in selanne/sundin's cases, those are super talented players, it's more about them getting their conditioning back up to game level than getting reacclimated to the game. same thing with a dude coming off a long injury (marc staal this year for example). as far as coming over from europe the change in level in competition is obviously the biggest thing, but the rink size makes a huge difference too. in the world championships last year norway, a lovely team, kept pace with the USA for almost the entire game that i watched because they just utilized the space on the ice so much better, judged the amount of time they had before defensemen closed the gaps better, etc. in actual feet and inches, the difference isn't that big, but in practice it really is noticeable. this is a big part of why a lot of players from europe get time to season in the AHL, to get adjusted to the rink size and how that changes the speed and feel of the game.
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Mar 23, 2012 07:51
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Are there any good blogs or websites to follow (especially for someone who has never really followed hockey before)? That Backhand Shelf blog someone posted earlier is pretty cool. Bruins-related is cool, since I'm a Boston fan (with a soft spot for Winnipeg, for no particular reason). I have realized that every year around mid-February I inevitably start watching the Bruins, and I've loved every hockey game I've gone to see live, so why not try to follow the sport?
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Brettbot posted:Are there any good blogs or websites to follow (especially for someone who has never really followed hockey before)? That Backhand Shelf blog someone posted earlier is pretty cool. I really have nothing to say except that The Backhand Shelf is really amazing, even if only for the Systems Analysis, The Whiteboard, and Ellen Etchingham's history lessons. Sure, there are other cool things on it like simple statistical analysis, and The Quiet Room where injuries are discussed, but those 3 features are what keep me coming back. In general, (as a Habs fan) I use Hockey Inside/out for Habs news, Puck Daddy for general NHL news and analysis, TSN for breaking news, and TBS for the cool quirky little things I might miss.
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Mar 29, 2012 05:03
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Brettbot posted:Are there any good blogs or websites to follow (especially for someone who has never really followed hockey before)? That Backhand Shelf blog someone posted earlier is pretty cool. Bruins-related is cool, since I'm a Boston fan (with a soft spot for Winnipeg, for no particular reason). I have realized that every year around mid-February I inevitably start watching the Bruins, and I've loved every hockey game I've gone to see live, so why not try to follow the sport? thepensblog.com  no actually don't read it it's awful
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Mar 29, 2012 05:10
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Pass it to Bulis rules but you pretty much have to be a Canuck fan to enjoy it
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Mar 29, 2012 05:14
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Brettbot posted:Are there any good blogs or websites to follow (especially for someone who has never really followed hockey before)? That Backhand Shelf blog someone posted earlier is pretty cool. Bruins-related is cool, since I'm a Boston fan (with a soft spot for Winnipeg, for no particular reason). I have realized that every year around mid-February I inevitably start watching the Bruins, and I've loved every hockey game I've gone to see live, so why not try to follow the sport? puck daddy is probably the most widely-read hockey blog out there. if you want to get daily nhl news along with some pretty interesting articles occasionally. if anything, you'll get a better appreciation for the sport by learning about teams you normally wouldn't hear anything about.
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Mar 29, 2012 06:32
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Brettbot posted:Are there any good blogs or websites to follow (especially for someone who has never really followed hockey before)? That Backhand Shelf blog someone posted earlier is pretty cool. Bruins-related is cool, since I'm a Boston fan (with a soft spot for Winnipeg, for no particular reason). I have realized that every year around mid-February I inevitably start watching the Bruins, and I've loved every hockey game I've gone to see live, so why not try to follow the sport? I've been impressed by the Blackhawks sbnation blog secondcityhockey, so I checked out the sbnation blog for the Bruins http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/ Here it is, I can't vouch for quality because the moment anyone mentions the Bruins my eyes start to glaze over.
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Mar 29, 2012 07:23
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a lot of people hate puck daddy i guess, but it covers the broadest number of teams, updates very frequently, and if something worth knowing about happened in the league it's probably going to be mentioned there. the writing's not the greatest but it's way better than a lot of the individual team blogs out there.
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Mar 29, 2012 07:31
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a false posted:a lot of people hate puck daddy i guess, but it covers the broadest number of teams, updates very frequently, and if something worth knowing about happened in the league it's probably going to be mentioned there. the writing's not the greatest but it's way better than a lot of the individual team blogs out there. Puckdaddy is good for it's ability to gather together in one place a bunch of links to quality hockey sites/news, etc, just don't bother reading any of their opinion articles, as they are almost universally bad.
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Mar 29, 2012 09:22
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Vigilance posted:Puckdaddy is good for it's ability to gather together in one place a bunch of links to quality hockey sites/news, etc, just don't bother reading any of their opinion articles, as they are almost universally bad. they mostly just state the obvious, that's not really that bad
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reach42 posted:I've been impressed by the Blackhawks sbnation blog secondcityhockey, so I checked out the sbnation blog for the Bruins  The other major Bruins blog is http://www.daysofyorr.com/ which is a thepensblog wannabe but I find pretty funny. Do you have twitter?
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Vigilance posted:Puckdaddy is good for it's ability to gather together in one place a bunch of links to quality hockey sites/news, etc, just don't bother reading any of their opinion articles, as they are almost universally bad. Unless they're r-lam's, then they're hilarious when combined with his tweets. What about for a leafs blog? I have trouble following them with how good the pens are and occasionally check PPP.
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Mar 29, 2012 12:58
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Wow, those whiteboard articles are awesome
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Thanks for all the help! I bookmarked Backhand Shelf (nth-ing the "Awesome Whiteboard articles" sentiment), Days Of Y'Orr, Stanley Cup Of Chowder, and Puck Daddy. I even enjoy Pass It To Bulis, so that should keep me busy for a while.
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Instead of bookmarking them, just subscribe to the RSS feed and view them through Google Reader. If you have a gmail account it's already set up for you. I can't believe it took me as long as it did for me to figure out what an RSS feed is and why they're awesome.
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So, the playoffs are right around the corner and I keep hearing people say that playoff hockey is so different from regular season hockey. I know that the rules are a little different (vis-a-vis overtime stuff), but what other differences can I expect to see once April 11th rolls around? Or are my friends just being dramatic?
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It's more a tension thing than any actual changes in the game rules. Refs have a tendency to make fewer calls and let the guys "go at it" but that's really the only measurable difference. The major difference is the excitement level.. every team is facing elimination and a single goal can turn a series around. Teams play up to 7 games against each other so a lot of rivalries and stories tend to come out of it too.
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It's not just excitement level. Playoff hockey is honestly just better hockey. A few reasons: - You now have the best teams in the league playing against each other, rather than, say Edmonton vs Columbus. - Coaches will start healthy-scratching their goons to make way for more skill players. They'll still have a grind line, and there are lots of players in the league now who can score and fight. But the guys with more pentalty-minutes than ice time are off the roster when the regular season's over. - Players start to worry less about getting injured. A loss in the regular season isn't the end of the world - and most players will act accordingly. Conversely, a loss in the playoffs could mean the end of your season, so more guys are willing to make physically riskier decisions then.
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It at least seems like guys hold back less. In the regular season sometimes players seem to give less than 100%. In the playoffs every game is so meaningful that every player is busting their rear end all the time. That's the theory anyways. I'm not sure if I buy it or not. My eyes tell me that it does look like players expend more effort in the playoffs than the regular season (look at the way Malkin played defense in the Cup finals when the Pens beat Detroit. I've never before or since seen him put the effort into defense that he did there), but I have no statistical proof that this is the case.
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I would be inclined to agree with that. players are more likely to put their bodies on the line and bust their asses like crazy in the playoffs - every dude who deserves to be in the league plays like someone's going to shoot his family if his team loses in the playoffs. this sometimes results in players returning to games with injuries they have no business playing through - see stamkos getting the puck to the face last year, or the crazy story from when brent gilchrist was on the wings in the 90s and literally had his groin muscle pinned to his hipbone during a game because it tore clean off and still loving played playoff hockey really is that intense. if you want to watch hockey that convinces you the game is worth watching, the playoffs are the time to do it.
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CobwebMustardseed posted:So, the playoffs are right around the corner and I keep hearing people say that playoff hockey is so different from regular season hockey. I know that the rules are a little different (vis-a-vis overtime stuff), but what other differences can I expect to see once April 11th rolls around? Or are my friends just being dramatic? It's somewhat indescribable, but the intensity ramps up in a very noticeable way. Teams will float through mid-December games and eke out a 2-1 win in a pretty uneventful dump and chase style. With a playoff game, every win matters so holding a one goal lead is an all out war as teams crash the net with reckless abandon in a desperate attempt to tie it up. Teams often abandon defensive strategies when they're trailing and initiate heavy forechecks and you'll see back and forth attacking hockey at its best. At the very least the hits are harder, the fights have real emotion and the goals all feel that much more satisfying as each one is so significant. Plus OT is what hockey is all about. There's generally one 3+ OT game every couple years, and we're overdue for one. Watch as much OT hockey as you can regardless of the teams involved, it's just too great. Basically because this is the type of emotion you see on an annual basis. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TbJ-SKrsYs
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Apr 7, 2012 16:47
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Cammmmpolllliiii. 
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Also CBC makes delightful montages before each game they're showing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPJsgvJBv2M
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ThinkTank posted:There's generally one 3+ OT game every couple years, and we're overdue for one. Watch as much OT hockey as you can regardless of the teams involved, it's just too great. I remember being glued to my TV in '03 when the Ducks had that 5-OT game against the Stars. That game was epic.
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a false posted:I would be inclined to agree with that. players are more likely to put their bodies on the line and bust their asses like crazy in the playoffs - every dude who deserves to be in the league plays like someone's going to shoot his family if his team loses in the playoffs. this sometimes results in players returning to games with injuries they have no business playing through - see stamkos getting the puck to the face last year, or the crazy story from when brent gilchrist was on the wings in the 90s and literally had his groin muscle pinned to his hipbone during a game because it tore clean off and still loving played Atmospherically it's so ridiculously awesome too. Playoff crowds in hockey are so awesome. There's really nothing like it. And yeah a guy playing like his family is going to get murdered if his team loses is a pretty damned good descriptor of playoff hockey and how hard guys play. I'm convinced if you take someone who has never been to a hockey game before to a playoff game they will be hooked. Playoff hockey is that fun.
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Zorkon posted:Also CBC makes delightful montages before each game they're showing. I rather enjoyed this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTcHmIxWoBk Playoff hockey is the best hockey. If you or someone you know is on the fence about getting into this glorious sport, now is the time to start watching it.
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In yesterday's Pens/Flyers game, Kris Letang and Kimmo Timonen were both ejected for violating rule 46.7, Fighting after the original altercation: quote:A game misconduct penalty shall be imposed on any player who is assessed a major penalty for fighting after the original altercation has started. My question is, why is this a rule? I'm guessing it was put in as a response to something, or at least to prevent something, but what? Is it just they want to keep the game going and don't want to have a million fights that start at different times? My real point is, if their fight had started at the same time as the Giroux/Crosby fight, they wouldn't have gotten misconducts. Why the seemingly arbitrary distinction in "when the fight starts"?
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myron cope posted:In yesterday's Pens/Flyers game, Kris Letang and Kimmo Timonen were both ejected for violating rule 46.7, Fighting after the original altercation: Because the 1970s Flyers
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myron cope posted:In yesterday's Pens/Flyers game, Kris Letang and Kimmo Timonen were both ejected for violating rule 46.7, Fighting after the original altercation: The officials are already busy breaking up the first fight, so it's going to be harder to end the next one which could result in injury. Just my briefly thought-out guess.
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Making this a sticky during the playoffs.
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I read the NBA and MLB beginners threads and thought "Hmm, I hope my thread isn't too long" and now I read this and I can't help but think that the posters for every other sport should be downright ashamed I say
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Holy poo poo, in I don't know how many years of watching hockey I've never noticed the referee force-field lines where they talk to the off-ice dudes. My mind is blown.
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The referee crease is even more sacred than the goalie crease! Anyone who dares enter it at the wrong time is instantly put to death
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