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Bloody Hedgehog posted:But they have a decent amount of time, this is a 2-year project. They're not going to crap it out in a few months like Double Fine. Double Fine is also not doing a rush job, Tim has gone on record saying they are going to invest all the money into the project and make it a more substantial game (with a delayed release date naturally.) Just because Onyx is not the engine that's going to be used doesn't mean that they are going to start from scratch, there's plenty of engines out there they can license.
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If this happens I hope Obsidian can hire back some of the people they had to let go. There were a lot of tears on both sides of the desk that day, I've heard. 
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Falls Down Stairs posted:Meanwhile, I totally wanna donate to this kickstarter but I'm too poor right now. Hopefully I can scrounge up an extra $15 this week! You don't get charged a dime until April 17th. Donate now, get money later.
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What modern engines really work well with a fixed isometric perspective, anyway?
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Apr 2, 2012 11:07
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Chas McGill posted:What modern engines really work well with a fixed isometric perspective, anyway? Gamebryo 
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Apr 2, 2012 11:09
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If you mean the Oblivion engine that runs on Gamebryo then that actually does handle open world streaming fairly well. The only thing I really hate about it is how combat feels, but that wouldn't matter in a turn based game.
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Apr 2, 2012 11:13
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Chas McGill posted:What modern engines really work well with a fixed isometric perspective, anyway? Flash. See: Facebook games.
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Apr 2, 2012 11:24
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There is also the areas of nuclear weapons testing that have recovered somewhat in the last 50-60 years, for example Bikini Atoll. Site of 23 nuclear weapons testing and a crater created by a hydrogen bomb.wikipedia posted:A 2002 survey found partial recovery of the corals inside The Bravo Crater.
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Apr 2, 2012 11:29
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Monster w21 Faces posted:Flash. See: Facebook games. I honestly wouldn't mind if it was 2d flash - so long as the art assets are suitable, I'd actually prefer it to 3D with boring textures. That NEO Scavenger game is in flash and it seems reasonably complex. Not having right click is far from ideal, though. What engine did Bastion use? It looked great and it must be pretty efficient if it can run in a browser. Chas McGill fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Apr 2, 2012 |
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Apr 2, 2012 11:32
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Chas McGill posted:What engine did Bastion use? It looked great and it must be pretty efficient if it can run in a browser. They made their own in C#. And boo to Flash, it's such a resource hog even for simple poo poo.
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Short Eurogamer article on how Avellone sees his role in the project, ie narrative, area design, and conversation system. I think that's pretty much what everyone expected, should play to Obsidian's strengths.
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Apr 2, 2012 11:43
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notZaar posted:Just because Onyx is not the engine that's going to be used doesn't mean that they are going to start from scratch, there's plenty of engines out there they can license. Licensing an engine costs money. Not only would Onyx be a good fit, it would either cost nothing or a fraction of your standard commercial engine. On another subject, the Old CRPGs thread just brought into my attention the beautiful soundtrack for Divine Divinity (available for free!) by Kirill Pokrovsky, a Russian composer I never heard of. Is it too late to get rid of that Mark Morgan guy? Just listen to it. It's so atmospheric.
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Saoshyant posted:Licensing an engine costs money. Not only would Onyx be a good fit, it would either cost nothing or a fraction of your standard commercial engine. He did the music for the much more recent sequel and the music in that game is pretty awesome too
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Apr 2, 2012 12:22
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I hope they actually don't make Wasteland 2 fixed isometric like the Fallout games were because the viewing angle was way too low and many times I had to run around the edge of a building looking for a door because it wasn't on the front side and I even remember being incapable of picking some items up because the scenery was in the way. Hopefully they'll make it a slightly skewed topdown and play with the angles as they see fit like Planescape did.
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Well, obviously I would kill for something sweet like Unreal 3, like the new X-COM Enemy Unknown game. But I'll take a Flash/Java/AdobeAir if it was good enough.
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Dixie Flatline posted:I hope they actually don't make Wasteland 2 fixed isometric like the Fallout games were because the viewing angle was way too low and many times I had to run around the edge of a building looking for a door because it wasn't on the front side and I even remember being incapable of picking some items up because the scenery was in the way. Hopefully they'll make it a slightly skewed topdown and play with the angles as they see fit like Planescape did. PS:T had a confusing perspective in my opinion. I liked JA2's camera, it was really high but just shy of overhead. e: flash is truly terrible
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Psychotic Weasel posted:As for what the world would look like after leaving it to rot for a couple years, I suggest you watch the History Television series called Life After People. You'd be surprised to learn how little will be left behind when we're gone. This was actually a pretty cool series, and I'd love to see a post-apocalyptic game like this at some point. Re-use the vaults idea, except instead of survivors on the surface, the rest of humanity has died out and you end up in a man vs nature sort of deal with whatever has evolved/grown in the absence of humanity's interference.
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Enslaved: Odyssey to the West has an aesthetic like that, only the enemies are the remnants of military robots that were involved in the war that caused the apocalypse.quote:The story is a re-imagining of the ancient Chinese story Journey to the West by Wu Cheng'en, one of the Four Great Classical Novels of China. Unlike the original story that was set in a fantastical version of ancient China, the game is set 150 years in a future post-apocalyptic world following a global war, with only remnants of humanity left, along with the still active war machines left over from the conflict. 
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The fact that civilizations can disappear almost totally makes you wonder if any great civilizations may have been on earth before us, rose to prominence, and then faded away for some reason, all traces of them crumbling to dust over the eons. Science gives us the answer! No, there wasn't. Don't be silly
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Haha I just remembered Wasteland Project 0. Why is that funny? Well look at this:
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Tsurupettan posted:This was actually a pretty cool series, and I'd love to see a post-apocalyptic game like this at some point. Re-use the vaults idea, except instead of survivors on the surface, the rest of humanity has died out and you end up in a man vs nature sort of deal with whatever has evolved/grown in the absence of humanity's interference. I had always hoped the FarCry/Crysis series would go in this direction. Considering the strengths of Cryengine a blend of urban and jungle environments would be perfect. Tufty posted:Enslaved: Odyssey to the West has an aesthetic like that, only the enemies are the remnants of military robots that were involved in the war that caused the apocalypse. A really great game that you can get for 10 bucks.
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Apr 2, 2012 13:38
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Someone needs to make a Gamma World game.
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Caves of Qud is a lush post-apocalyptic environment too. I think. It has lots of living plant enemies at least!
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It's also really good and doesn't have awful interface problems like you get with alot of roguelikes.
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I really enjoyed Caves of Qud and it had lots of great features but the setting felt too wacky. Like, wacky to the point of taking away from the enjoyment of the game/setting. On the other hand I feel the same way about nethack so lots of people will probably disagree with me.
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Dixie Flatline posted:Haha I just remembered Wasteland Project 0. Why is that funny? Well look at this:
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I'm pretty sure I've seen a model very similar to that in one of the terrible mods threads for either Oblivion or F3. It probably wouldn't take a lot of work to get your wish.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:The fact that civilizations can disappear almost totally makes you wonder if any great civilizations may have been on earth before us, rose to prominence, and then faded away for some reason, all traces of them crumbling to dust over the eons. You only say that because our expeditions to the Mountains of Madness keep disappearing before the can transmit their findings. 
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Casimir Radon posted:I've always wanted a Fallout 3/New Vegas mod that put in furry raiders to kill. In addition to being fun and hilarious, the inevitable cries of persecution would be so sweet. Fursecution. Although the idea that furries would survive the apocalypse is dubious at best.
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Al! posted:Fursecution. Although the idea that furries would survive the apocalypse is dubious at best. Fallout 1 was supposed to have sentient raccoons in it  (before the idea was killed for being Really Dumb)
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Dixie Flatline posted:Haha I just remembered Wasteland Project 0. Why is that funny? Well look at this: Hmmm well it might be interesting to go around slaying horrible monsters as a giant scorpion, you never know.
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Another sentient race (not derived from humans - ghouls and supermutants don't count) would be cool. Lizardmen or ant people or something. MOLE MEN MAYBE!!
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Tufty posted:Another sentient race (not derived from humans - ghouls and supermutants don't count) would be cool. Lizardmen or ant people or something. MOLE MEN MAYBE!! Cockroach people. Of course I guess that's just a squatty sort of thri-kreen.
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Tufty posted:Another sentient race (not derived from humans - ghouls and supermutants don't count) would be cool. Lizardmen or ant people or something. MOLE MEN MAYBE!! There were intelligent Deathclaws in FO2. (before they were killed off for being really dumb)
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OneTrueBru posted:There were intelligent Deathclaws in FO2. being Unarmed Bros with Goris and punching the poo poo out of everything in the wasteland was not dumb
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There were alot of dumb things in FO2, like a sentient radscorpion that wears glasses and attacks you when you beat him at chess with advice you get from a talking sentient plant.
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I liked all that stuff in FO2 and I hope there are silly things in Wasteland 2.
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Dixie Flatline posted:There were alot of dumb things in FO2, like a sentient radscorpion that wears glasses and attacks you when you beat him at chess with advice you get from a talking sentient plant. That, at least, is sci fi dumb. The quest you get from a ghost is straight out of a D&D module.
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Really, "The Enclave experimented with making intelligent Deathclaws, which escaped" was one of the least silly of the silly things in FO2, it was even played entirely straight, unlike a ton of stuff in that game.
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Dixie Flatline posted:There were alot of dumb things in FO2, like a sentient radscorpion that wears glasses and attacks you when you beat him at chess with advice you get from a talking sentient plant. I really liked a whole lot of things in Fallout 2, but that plant REALLY felt out of place. I could accept talking deathclaws and a scientist training a radscorpion to be smart seemed SCIENCEy enough, but no. Talking plant was dumb.
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