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tomguycot
Jan 11, 2001
Forum Veteran

Zorro KingOfEngland posted:

While I agree this change sucks, your car insurance probably costs a bit more than $11 a month.

Looks like my current phone will be the last phone I have TEP on.

Oh for sure it does but if my car was totaled I'd still only be looking at paying about $4,000 during the course of a four year note (counting the $500 deductible) for a $28,000 car that's about 1/7th (14%) the initial value of the car versus paying 84% of the value of a $550 phone over two years. So I still think most people would be better off passing on this insurance particularly since the cost of the deductible alone would be enough to get a decent used replacement (maybe not the same phone but probably something you can get by with until you're eligible for an upgrade).

tomguycot fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Apr 20, 2012

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


nate fisher posted:

That said has anyone added their phone to their main (home or car) insurance policy? Can you get a policy just for the phone?

You could theoretically claim your phone under your homeowners policy, but most of the time the deductible for renters/homeowners is around $500 so you aren't really coming out ahead (plus then you have a claim against your insurance which could affect your rates.)

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

nate fisher posted:

That said has anyone added their phone to their main (home or car) insurance policy?
Your phone should be covered under homeowners/renters in the event of theft, and I think some (many?) policies cover theft from your vehicle too. Not sure how it works if you're mugged. As mentioned, the issue here is the deductible in the range of $250-500.

nate fisher posted:

Can you get a policy just for the phone?
There is such a thing as "Valuable Personal Property" insurance which folks often purchase to cover things like jewelry (e.g., wedding rings). I've never thought about getting such a policy for an electronic item, but I suspect one would be able to. The real issue is that, if such policies aren't really standardized for electronics, then I'd have a concern as to what kinds of damage could be claimed.

The real issue is that, in the end, phones just aren't that expensive. With the new rates, a $200 deductible and $11/mo x 24 months comes to $464 total, which easily covers the used cost of most not-completely-brand-new phones. Unless you're filing claims on every phone you own, that money is probably best placed in a savings account. This is unlike homeowners, renters, vehicular, health, etc., insurance, where the potential cost of disaster scenarios far exceeds what one can reasonably stow away in savings, and so risk shedding is far more important.

Also, I suspect that due to the above, many folks enrolled in TEP actually make use of it. Which is fine, except that will inevitably drive costs up. If anything, I take the TEP increases as a sign that small-electronics insurance isn't a particularly profitable industry, as opposed to a money grab opportunity.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


This is the way I look at accidental equipment protection on phones.

I've had a cell phone for 11 years and never once carried insurance. That savings allow me to buy like 2 or 3 phones outright now. So, unless I start breaking them every 9 months from now on, I'm going to remain ahead of the game by not having insurance.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

ExcessBLarg! posted:

Also, I suspect that due to the above, many folks enrolled in TEP actually make use of it. Which is fine, except that will inevitably drive costs up. If anything, I take the TEP increases as a sign that small-electronics insurance isn't a particularly profitable industry, as opposed to a money grab opportunity.

This. Keep in mind that when someone comes into a store with a non-working phone and we order a replacement, the costs on Sprint's end is about $110 (refurb phone + shipping + commission to rep). So when you have Evos, Shifts and Epics acting up and we have to keep exchanging them, that does turn into a lot of money. Of course releasing phones that DON'T BREAK would be great, and honestly that's why I believe Dan Hesse when he states that the iPhone can have a cost savings over Android.

TEP isn't bad (although really not something goons need) for normal customers at $8 a month and a $100 deductible. I have it for my fiance currently. TEP at $11 a month and a $200 deductible is pretty loving insane. Obviously I would be way more hesitant to recommend it.

Raised by Hamsters
Sep 16, 2007

and hopped up on bagels
Just activated 4 Nexuses. Nexi? Goodbye and good riddance, Samsung Moment. Anyway, they are running 4.0.4 if anyone was curious.

Duckman, do you know that the grandfathering of TEP at $8 is a sure thing? Is the deductible grandfathered also?

PBCrunch
Jun 17, 2002

Lawrence Phillips Always #1 to Me
I am replacing my Samsung Moment (holy gently caress I hate you so much) with a Galaxy Nexus. For some reason "Hands Free" activation didn't work and when I tried to activate online:

quote:

We' re sorry, but your new phone requires a plan change, and we need to assist you. Please click the chat link, or call us at 888-211-4727.

Which I can't call using the phone that I want to deactivate. Which is my only phone.

And now I am trying to go through the chat and the expected wait time is forty-five minutes. What the gently caress?

r0ck0
Sep 12, 2004
r0ck0s p0zt m0d3rn lyf
I just got my sprint nexus rooted. Worked great. Used the PDAnet drivers and this tool from XDA, selected the build which matched my device even though it was the GSM model.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Raised by Hamsters posted:

Just activated 4 Nexuses. Nexi? Goodbye and good riddance, Samsung Moment. Anyway, they are running 4.0.4 if anyone was curious.

Duckman, do you know that the grandfathering of TEP at $8 is a sure thing? Is the deductible grandfathered also?

Wait. What the gently caress, Sprint gets 4.0.4 right off the bat and Verizon STILL hasn't said a peep about it? poo poo.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Raised by Hamsters posted:

Just activated 4 Nexuses. Nexi? Goodbye and good riddance, Samsung Moment. Anyway, they are running 4.0.4 if anyone was curious.

Duckman, do you know that the grandfathering of TEP at $8 is a sure thing? Is the deductible grandfathered also?

The $8 for sure should be grandfathered, and I believe the deductible, but I need to see more info. Honestly, either you are grandfathered or you can drop it at anytime worst case. But it should all stay where it is at.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

Duckman2008 posted:

The $8 for sure should be grandfathered, and I believe the deductible, but I need to see more info. Honestly, either you are grandfathered or you can drop it at anytime worst case. But it should all stay where it is at.

TEP hasn't been grandfathered when I was with Sprint. It changed for me from $6 to $7 to $8 iirc, as I went from a Touch to TP2 to EVO. Is that changing?

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
Yes last time TEP increased it wasn't grandfathered.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Mark Larson posted:

TEP hasn't been grandfathered when I was with Sprint. It changed for me from $6 to $7 to $8 iirc, as I went from a Touch to TP2 to EVO. Is that changing?

The documents say TEP will be grandfathered for customers who get it or have it before June 17th. I don't know all the specifics, it's a one page document, I'm sure I'll see more in the co in weeks.

900ftjesus
Aug 10, 2003

PBCrunch posted:

I am replacing my Samsung Moment (holy gently caress I hate you so much) with a Galaxy Nexus. For some reason "Hands Free" activation didn't work and when I tried to activate online:


Which I can't call using the phone that I want to deactivate. Which is my only phone.

And now I am trying to go through the chat and the expected wait time is forty-five minutes. What the gently caress?

Probably way too late now, but call through Gmail on your computer.

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

900ftjesus posted:

Probably way too late now, but call through Gmail on your computer.

Why aren't you a mod anymore? :(

900ftjesus
Aug 10, 2003

Vykk.Draygo posted:

Why aren't you a mod anymore? :(

Not enough time anymore. I get a bit of time per week to actually read and post, thought it would be better if someone more active stepped in.

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.

900ftjesus posted:

Not enough time anymore. I get a bit of time per week to actually read and post, thought it would be better if someone more active stepped in.

Real answer: you just wanted to use Ferg's awesome/Awful forums app.

Did I read somewhere that Sprint LTE was going to utilize the 850 MHz spectrum? Does that apply to the Galaxy Nexus and other upcoming LTE phones as well, or is it still going to be some time before we get to actually use that delicious building penetrating spectrum?

Commodore 64
Apr 2, 2007

The sky was the color of a television tuned to a dead channel that was orange

brc64 posted:

Real answer: you just wanted to use Ferg's awesome/Awful forums app.

Did I read somewhere that Sprint LTE was going to utilize the 850 MHz spectrum? Does that apply to the Galaxy Nexus and other upcoming LTE phones as well, or is it still going to be some time before we get to actually use that delicious building penetrating spectrum?

It's going to take some time. First they're rolling out 1.9GHz LTE this year and then, once they begin shutting down iDEN, they'll start rolling out 800MHz LTE. All the LTE phones coming out now are 1.9GHz only. Source

I live in Chicago so the first wave of LTE won't get here until the end of phase one (next year, optimistically). If I get the EVO LTE in August; it will still be about 2 years before Sprint rolls out 800MHz LTE here.

RagingHematoma
Apr 19, 2004

Goiters can be beautiful too!
I think the microphone on my Evo is busted. Everyone says I sound like I am miles away and can barley hear me.

I bought the phone used and was thinking of taking it to sprint for repair. How does the repair process work for sprint?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

RagingHematoma posted:

I think the microphone on my Evo is busted. Everyone says I sound like I am miles away and can barley hear me.

I bought the phone used and was thinking of taking it to sprint for repair. How does the repair process work for sprint?

Just take it in to a repair center. If you don't have insurance they have the right to charge you $36 to do the repair, although a lot of mic issues usually can be fixed by just opening the phone and cleaning the mic (not all but most, so it's a pretty easy repair). The worst case is a repair doesn't fix it, I'm which case they would order a replacement phone, which would almost certainly be $36 (of course you would at most only pay this fee once, not once to repair one to swap).

So just take it by, see what they can do.

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!
Welp, just blew my upgrade on a phone made by Samsung. Hopefully the fact that it is a Nexus phone will save it, but fingers are extra crossed.

Haven't used an upgrade since I bought my Mogul when I signed up for SERO.

Touch Pro 2, I'm counting the minutes until I can retire you for good.

Matlock
Sep 12, 2004

Childs Play Charity 2011 Total: $1755
The only thing holding me back from investing in a buyout and a Galaxy Nexus right now is the fact WiMax has excellent coverage where I'm at.

LTE needs to hurry up. :argh:

Inside Out Mom
Jan 9, 2004

Franklin B. Znorps
Dignity, Class, Internet
Man what a cock tease. Was all set to pick up a nexus today. Went into the store and the guy says they won't get them until next weekend.

He tried selling me an iPhone right after telling me that so maybe shenanigans. Guess I'll have to call them every day until it comes in.

Quid
Jul 19, 2006
Has anyone else had trouble upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus? It just failed to activate hands free so I'm trying to go through the website. I'm on SERO and I realize that it will have to go up to SERO Premium. However the site doesn't list that as an option, its trying to make me upgrade to Everything Plans, it doesn't list anything else. Any clues on how to upgrade this without an Everything plan?

VV Completely missed that in the OP. Calling now. Thanks.

Quid fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Apr 22, 2012

Sperg Victorious
Mar 25, 2011
I had to call customer service. I'm on a regular plan and it was still wanting me to change the plan and some other bs. Hands free didn't work until I called Sprint anyways.

Turnquiet
Oct 24, 2002

My friend is an eloquent speaker.

Does the sprint gnex use a sim like the verizon one?

r0ck0
Sep 12, 2004
r0ck0s p0zt m0d3rn lyf

Turnquiet posted:

Does the sprint gnex use a sim like the verizon one?

No.

goku chewbacca
Dec 14, 2002

Turnquiet posted:

Does the sprint gnex use a sim like the verizon one?

r0ck0 posted:

No.
Strange. I thought a SIM card was a requirement according to the GSM engineering standards from which LTE was developed.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010
I thought so too, googled it after that response and this came up

http://briefmobile.com/sprint-to-have-embedded-sim-cards-for-lte-network

"Sprint to Have Embedded SIM Cards for LTE Network"

so loving stupid.

ceebee
Feb 12, 2004
Just bought a GNex after using a Palm Centro for the past 5 or so years.

I am really, really, excited to finally have a smart phone. I hope it gets here soon, ordered it online and cost me $200 with my $150 upgrade.

I was going to get an iPhone merely based on the fact that I dont have an AUX input in my car and I'm using an FM transmitter with an iPod hookup to play music. But it looks like I'll have to buy a different adapter or keep using my iPod for music D:

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe

Matlock posted:

The only thing holding me back from investing in a buyout and a Galaxy Nexus right now is the fact WiMax has excellent coverage where I'm at.

LTE needs to hurry up. :argh:

Fo'real. At least on the 3D I could turn on WiMax for a few minutes to download the odd 5 MB app when I was out.

The pros still outweigh the cons for me so far, though. That fuckin' screen. :swoon:

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.
Wife replaced her Evo Shift with a Galaxy Nexus today. I am jealous! Also happy to no longer hear complaints about that Shift!

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010
My Shift, which is generally fine (w/ CM7), will likely get replaced with a Gnex at some point in the not too distant future. How is she taking not having a keyboard?

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Matlock posted:

The only thing holding me back from investing in a buyout and a Galaxy Nexus right now is the fact WiMax has excellent coverage where I'm at.

LTE needs to hurry up. :argh:

I'm not even sure why there's hype for the Gnexus on Sprint right now. You're buying a phone that won't have 4g for it for a long, long period of time. I guess if you really want ICS + a big screen, it's the right phone, but it seems weird to intentionally leave a 4g (albeit wimax) phone for a non4g phone while still paying the same monthly rate.

The Shep
Jan 10, 2007


If found, please return this poster to GIP. His mothers are very worried and miss him very much.
I'm sort of in the game boat here. I am planning on switching to Sprint in August, and Wimax coverage here in the Chicago area is pretty drat good. Speeds aren't great (seem to be 3-4mbps), but coming from 3g that's still pretty drat good.

If Sprints LTE network isn't running in Chicago by then, I'll probably grab a used Evo or something to hold me over (or go with a Tmo $30/mo 4g plan and phone).


brc64 posted:

The screen is large enough that she doesn't mind the soft keyboard, particularly in landscape. She does miss the physical keys, though.

Maybe because neither of us ever use 4G because it's pretty much loving useless?

I don't understand this sentiment. Do you ever stream music or video, download apps, skype/voip, tether? (All of which are at times painful if not unusable on 3g) If not, why do you need a smartphone? To check your email?

The Shep fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Apr 23, 2012

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.

falz posted:

My Shift, which is generally fine (w/ CM7), will likely get replaced with a Gnex at some point in the not too distant future. How is she taking not having a keyboard?

The screen is large enough that she doesn't mind the soft keyboard, particularly in landscape. She does miss the physical keys, though.

mastershakeman posted:

I'm not even sure why there's hype for the Gnexus on Sprint right now. You're buying a phone that won't have 4g for it for a long, long period of time. I guess if you really want ICS + a big screen, it's the right phone, but it seems weird to intentionally leave a 4g (albeit wimax) phone for a non4g phone while still paying the same monthly rate.

Maybe because neither of us ever use 4G because it's pretty much loving useless?

Dreissi
Feb 14, 2007

:dukedog:
College Slice

mastershakeman posted:

I'm not even sure why there's hype for the Gnexus on Sprint right now. You're buying a phone that won't have 4g for it for a long, long period of time. I guess if you really want ICS + a big screen, it's the right phone, but it seems weird to intentionally leave a 4g (albeit wimax) phone for a non4g phone while still paying the same monthly rate.

A big part of it for me is the rapid os upgrades. I appreciate having a phone that will get upgraded pretty regularly. Also the screen is big!

Sperg Victorious
Mar 25, 2011
At least the Gnex is 100 dollars cheaper on Sprint than Verizon, so the discount helps ease the pain of not having LTE for a few months.

peepsalot
Apr 24, 2007

        PEEP THIS...
           BITCH!

I gotta agree with brc64 on this, I rarely turn on 4G on my EVO because it will suck my battery in 30min or less and majority of the time it's shittier signal than 3G anyways.

Does anyone know if LTE radios are any more forgiving on the battery compared ot Wimax?

Supposedly my town, Austin, is gonna be one of the first to deploy LTE (I think I read Junish somewhere) so I don't mind getting the Nexus now and waiting a couple months for the :tviv: speeds.

Yeah I want the phone for LTE, but the AMOLED 720p screen and ICS are also big considerations.

Also, when I got my EVO, I got one of the EPRP plans from the blog link in the OP. My current bill looks like this:
code:
59.99 Everything Plus Plan - 500 Anytime Minutes
10.00 Premium Data add-on charge
The sprint website is claiming I will be required to change my plan if I get the Nexus. Are they gonna try to say my EPRP is no longer valid or some poo poo?

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Sperg Victorious
Mar 25, 2011

peepsalot posted:

The sprint website is claiming I will be required to change my plan if I get the Nexus. Are they gonna try to say my EPRP is no longer valid or some poo poo?

To get around that just call up customer service to activate, they wont make you change your plan.

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