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Colorado civil unions bill assigned to House judiciary committee. Hearing on Thursday maybe. No GOP co-sponsor announced.
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It is good there is still some semblance of sanity as this is a big loss for bigotsquote:A controversial bill in Tennessee meant to restrict public school discussion of sexuality and LGBT issues is set to die without a vote after the key GOP sponsor announced on Monday that he simply wouldn't bring it up.
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Rhode Island House is holding hearings for a marriage bill today. Last year they passed a civil union law with a ridiculously broad exemption where religious organizations can not be forced to recognize civil unions as valid. The governor is completely supportive and there are huge Dem majorties in both houses, but the caucus is surprisingly conservative and Senate Leadership is strongly opposed to marriage equality. Should be an easy equal protection lawsuit if we can't pass a bill. (Note to any opponents reading this thread: MWAHAHAHA) e: There are 2 other bills on the agenda. One fixes the civil union law and the other allows access to family courts for same sex couples married in another state. UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 22:48 on May 2, 2012 |
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May 2, 2012 22:36
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Looking forward to the day all New Englanders have marriage equality. Come on RI & ME!
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May 2, 2012 22:41
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Apparently one of the main concerns of people wanting to restrict marriage is that the Caucasian race just isn't reproducing enough these days. http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/02/475141/brunstetter-caucasian/ quote:The wife of a prominent North Carolina state senator and supporter of Amendment 1 — a proposed ballot initiative that would outlaw same-sex marriage, civil unions, and domestic partnerships in the state — claimed earlier this week that her husband advocated for the measure to protect the “Caucasian” race.
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May 2, 2012 22:47
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Amused to Death posted:Apparently one of the main concerns of people wanting to restrict marriage is that the Caucasian race just isn't reproducing enough these days. It's like the perfect storm of racism and prejudice, at this height of idiocy is it still immoral to punch someone in the mouth for saying words? Seriously.
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May 2, 2012 23:00
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Economy Clown Car posted:It's like the perfect storm of racism and prejudice, at this height of idiocy is it still immoral to punch someone in the mouth for saying words? Seriously. You obviously didn't get the memo: NANCE: So you did or did not say anything about Caucasians? BRUNSTETTER: If I did it wasn’t anything race related. 
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May 3, 2012 00:07
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Economy Clown Car posted:"The reason my husband wrote Amendment 1 was because the Caucasian race is diminishing and we need to uh, reproduce." Holy poo poo that is all but a direct fourteen words line right there. And what possible connotations could the word Caucasians have in that context that isn't related to race?
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May 3, 2012 00:35
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God stuff from the hearings: "There is no such thing as a liberal Catholic, they are called heretics." Marriage equality is a "Communist plot" and the decrease in population will hurt the economy. Also somebody mentioned it will lead to people marrying their pets. There are supporters too but they are boring. e: Somebody brought and waved around brimstone allegedly from Sodom and Gomorrah! UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 01:48 on May 3, 2012 |
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May 3, 2012 00:38
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Amused to Death posted:Apparently one of the main concerns of people wanting to restrict marriage is that the Caucasian race just isn't reproducing enough these days. holy loly. I mean "we want to support marriage but, you know only OUR kind of marriage" isn't an argument based in eugenics already then I'd direct her to miscegenation statutes
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May 3, 2012 01:36
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Slaan posted:I absentee-voted against the Amendment already. But its absentee voting, which they don't even count unless things are close. They always count absentee ballots. It's only an issue when it's close.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:And what possible connotations could the word Caucasians have in that context that isn't related to race? Talking about the land between the Black Sea and the Caspian sea.
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May 3, 2012 13:25
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Talking about the land between the Black Sea and the Caspian sea. You'd use the word "Caucuses" in that instance, I think.
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May 3, 2012 18:27
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These people have such a messed up view of marriage.
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May 3, 2012 18:57
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Do these people really believe that by banning same sex marriage that gay men and women will automatically turn straight and start having kids? Is this really the thought process or am I missing something?
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May 3, 2012 18:59
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with one L posted:Do these people really believe that by banning same sex marriage that gay men and women will automatically turn straight and start having kids? Is this really the thought process or am I missing something? They think that talking about gay people confuses kids and makes them turn gay. That this is how people are recruited into the gay lifestyle. So yes, they do.
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with one L posted:Do these people really believe that by banning same sex marriage that gay men and women will automatically turn straight and start having kids? Is this really the thought process or am I missing something? Many do still subscribe to the idea that homosexuality is a (nasty, icky, bad) choice, and so likely think that by closing off that avenue they're encouraging people onto the proper, Christian path. This of course presumes that any real thought has actually gone into it, and it's not just mindless knee-jerk reaction.
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with one L posted:Do these people really believe that by banning same sex marriage that gay men and women will automatically turn straight and start having kids? Is this really the thought process or am I missing something? No but a bunch might kill themselves and to the bigots that's okay too
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with one L posted:Do these people really believe that by banning same sex marriage that gay men and women will automatically turn straight and start having kids? Is this really the thought process or am I missing something? I think they're also saying that it must be only whites who are being gay. Or maybe that if gay people are straight instead they'll have white kids no matter what.
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Colorado House judiciary committee votes on civil unions today. I expect it loses with a party line vote but stranger things have happened.
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with one L posted:Do these people really believe that by banning same sex marriage that gay men and women will automatically turn straight and start having kids? Is this really the thought process or am I missing something? It's not THAT silly. The less homosexuality is stigmatized, the more people will come out as gay. But that's a good thing, because even if low birthrate causes problems, the best solution is not forcing millions into unfulfilling marriages and unwanted sexual obligations.
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Audio stream from the CO hearing. Highlights from the opponents so far: "a Trojan horse" "What about the babies?" "There are no Adams or two Eves." "If we keep on feeding the snake it'll become a dragon" "HIV and AIDS is real" e: We won 6-5! Now it goes to the Finance Committee and probably 1 more. UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 04:28 on May 4, 2012 |
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May 4, 2012 03:29
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Install Gentoo posted:I think they're also saying that it must be only whites who are being gay. Or maybe that if gay people are straight instead they'll have white kids no matter what. To be fair to them, there is a trend in the media in portraying homosexuals as white and/or downplaying minority homosexuals.
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computer parts posted:To be fair to them, there is a trend in the media in portraying homosexuals as white and/or downplaying minority homosexuals. Hey now, True Blood has both gay and lesbian black characters and one of them is dating a gay latino. Actually, I think those are the only homosexuals on the show outside of the vampires that literally gently caress anything with a hole to gently caress that is.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:"If we keep on feeding the snake it'll become a dragon" That wouldn't even make sense within the context of a fantasy novel
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Riptor posted:That wouldn't even make sense within the context of a fantasy novel I'm guessing the people against gay marriage take a dim view on evolution as well.
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Riptor posted:That wouldn't even make sense within the context of a fantasy novel The gay snake will grow into a big gay dragon, like Puff.
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Zero VGS posted:The gay snake will grow into a big gay dragon, like Puff. I thought it was Puff the Magic Dragon, not Poof the Magic Dragon. 
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May 4, 2012 19:50
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CO civil union bill goes to finance committee today. For a bill everyone believes can pass a floor vote this process is incredibly uncertain and secretive. And no one has addressed the important question of "What about the babies?"
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:CO civil union bill goes to finance committee today. Someone far better than us has already addressed this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPvVnrV1tow
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CO House finance committee passed civil unions. On to appropriations Monday and a floor vote Tuesday I guess. ...and then the referendum to block the law. Progress is slow and boring.
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May 5, 2012 00:56
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:CO House finance committee passed civil unions. Dobson and Focus on a Family must be seething that such a thing would happen. EDIT quote:Please write a letter using the content provided or your own, urging your representatives to not vote for SB2!
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Dobson and Focus on a Family must be seething that such a thing would happen. They could have tried to pass an amendment banning all same sex unions but only went with marriage. e: That whole lawsuit thing is complete garbage. Every state that sued over civil unions did so without a constitutional ban on same sex marriage. The federal Prop 8 lawsuit is irrelevant because the federal court did not find a right to same sex marriage, the CA supreme court already found one before the constitutional ban. ee: I forgot about the suit out of Nevada last month. That's the best comparison to Colorado but there's obviously no ruling yet so no one knows if federal courts are willing to break constitutional bans that weren't passed after the fact like Prop 8. UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 01:10 on May 5, 2012 |
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May 5, 2012 01:03
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The Colorado civil union bill goes to the House appropriations committee some time after 4:30ET today. Governor "believes today is a historic day" so it should either pass and get a floor vote or he'll call a special session. Today is also election day in North Carolina. Vote AGAINST Amendment One. Polls close at 7:30 so you still have time if you live there. 
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:The Colorado civil union bill goes to the House appropriations committee some time after 4:30ET today. I hope the latest polls are wrong about the NC vote. I would love for equality to have two big victories in a row.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:The Colorado civil union bill goes to the House appropriations committee some time after 4:30ET today. Just curious why do the Finance/Appropriations committees have jurisdiction over these bills?
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I hope the latest polls are wrong about the NC vote. I would love for equality to have two big victories in a row. Referendums on the ballot: North Carolina: Amends constitution to ban same sex marriage and any recognition. Maine: Legalizes same sex marriage. Minnesota: Amends constitution to ban same sex marriage. Possibly on the ballot: Maryland: Legalizes same sex marriage. Ohio: Amends constitution to legalize same sex marriage. Colorado: Legalizes civil unions. Washington: Legalizes same sex marriage. zoux posted:Just curious why do the Finance/Appropriations committees have jurisdiction over these bills? It passed the committee but Republicans just added 2 poison pill amendments and we still aren't guaranteed a floor vote. One is a plainly unconstitutional exemption for therapists, counselors, etc. to refuse to see people in a civil union. There's another amendment I've yet to see the text of. The amendments need to be removed in a floor vote or we'll need a special session to reconcile the Senate and House bills. One of the Republicans on the committee thinks there are enough votes to do this.
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Early results in from NC: http://www.wral.com/news/political/page/10991843/ If you're reading this around the time I post it, know that a lot of those "yes" counties are some of the most populous conservative-leaning counties (Rowan, Iredale, Johnston), and while Mecklenburg (Charlotte) is in, Wake (Raleigh) and Durham are not. Watch Cabarrus, Union, and Gaston. Are all major suburbs of Charlotte and turnout there will matter, though it's likely the churches are much more mobilized there than the anti-A1 forces. Wow, I'm watching the lead move back and forth all over the place in real-time right now. EDIT: a bunch of stuff in the east just came in. Those are areas that are usually blue, but due to lots of black, socially conservative voters in smaller cities like Wilson and Rocky Mount. Looks like they're going in favor of A1, which has given "Yes" a 35,000 vote lead 
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