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Anal Tributary posted:wow this coursera thing looks like a big education product but the design is unmodified twitter bootstrap, rofl
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ahhh spiders posted:are you trying to get a job in the industry because if they don't see a degree and you don't have experience it's probably not going to happen i have a github and a few things that had/have a few thousand users, fwiw i mean i'm getting a degree, hopefully, but like... i want an internship at least and poo poo. and if i could somehow get a job w/o finishing a degree (like a few people i know online) then i'd do that. either way i need to be able to do interviews. i really like this because it has the exams and stuff, so maybe i could use it with a book or lectures or something. the lecture notes don't really seem like they give a complete picture.
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May 4, 2012 18:00
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May 4, 2012 18:00
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Anal Tributary posted:i have a github and a few things that had/have a few thousand users, fwiw when i was going to school i became friends with a guy who owned a company that wrote custom software for people and after i worked on a project with him he started offering me contract work & i did that a bunch until i graduated
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May 4, 2012 18:01
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ppp posted:yeah, lets make it uglier - you it literally takes the editing of one motherfucking file to change your site from "looks like every other bootstrap site in the world" to "something legitimately unique built on bootstrap"
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May 4, 2012 18:04
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av i know how you feel, just keep on keeping on you are in a better position than i am at least 
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May 4, 2012 18:06
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Anal Tributary posted:it literally takes the editing of one motherfucking file to change your site from "looks like every other bootstrap site in the world" to "something legitimately unique built on bootstrap" it doesnt make it any good though. you can change the font to comic sans and it'd be unique
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May 4, 2012 18:06
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bootstrap is pretty much the worst thing
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May 4, 2012 18:07
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Anal Tributary posted:i really like this because it has the exams and stuff, so maybe i could use it with a book or lectures or something. the lecture notes don't really seem like they give a complete picture. the difference between coursera and the mit opencourseware-type stuff is that coursera's material is original for the coursera course. like, the lecture videos aren't just some guy with a camcorder videotaping the normal lecture, they're a narrated whiteboard recording kinda thing. plus if you're the kind of person who needs some structure it's kinda cool that there's assignments with due dates. actually if you want in on a class that's actually running now, this one just started and is more theoretical and poo poo like an algorithms course: https://www.coursera.org/course/automata
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May 4, 2012 18:08
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you are in for a long day if you are trying to learn computer science and the first thing you think of when you visit that site is that its not unique enough
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May 4, 2012 18:08
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algorithms are common sense. school can't teach you that.
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May 4, 2012 18:10
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ppp posted:it doesnt make it any good though. you can change the font to comic sans and it'd be unique twitter bootstrap looks generic as hell - half of that is because it's used in like half of all new web apps, and half is because it just looks very plain on purpose because it's supposed to be a base to customize it's about establishing a ~brand identity~ or whatever. i mean the coursera landing page looks pretty great, they just need to get their app's look up to speed hm.
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May 4, 2012 18:11
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ppp posted:you are in for a long day if you are trying to learn computer science and the first thing you think of when you visit that site is that its not unique enough yeah it's becoming pretty clear he should be in graphic design instead
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May 4, 2012 18:11
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Markov Chain Chomp posted:algorithms are common sense. school can't teach you that. nice troll
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May 4, 2012 18:12
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SICP is actually neat to teach a bunch of algorithms, if you do the exercises.
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May 4, 2012 18:13
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Anal Tributary posted:twitter bootstrap looks generic as hell - half of that is because it's used in like half of all new web apps, and half is because it just looks very plain on purpose because it's supposed to be a base to customize it says stanford right on the page, idk what you are talking about
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May 4, 2012 18:13
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MononcQc posted:SICP is actually neat to teach a bunch of algorithms, if you do the exercises. 
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May 4, 2012 18:14
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ppp posted:it says stanford right on the page, idk what you are talking about yeah honestly who gives a gently caress about the page, i didn't even notice that it was bootstrap and i've used it a little bit before you should apply for ~~user experience~~ positions
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May 4, 2012 18:15
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your user experience is a piece of poo poo
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May 4, 2012 18:15
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MononcQc posted:SICP is actually neat to teach a bunch of algorithms, if you do the exercises. i was super proud of myself when i wrote the metacircular evaluator in C.
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May 4, 2012 18:15
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apply for user expeirence designer at samsung
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May 4, 2012 18:16
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Markov Chain Chomp posted:yeah it's becoming pretty clear he should be in graphic design instead front-end engineering, dude ooh, right. tef was telling me about this but i never got around to it. i should just work through that next week or something except i'm supposed to be getting a summer job. can't wait to work retail again 
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May 4, 2012 18:17
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watch the sicp lectures and do the hand motions that sussman/ableman does along with him
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May 4, 2012 18:17
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Anal Tributary posted:front-end engineering, dude are you qualified to do anything more than work retail
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May 4, 2012 18:18
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sounds like life is hard for you guys that sucks maybe you should make life easier and smoke lots of weed
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May 4, 2012 18:18
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work at the apple store
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Sweeper posted:sounds like life is hard for you guys that sucks what's it like being a drug addict
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May 4, 2012 18:18
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Anal Tributary posted:explain? cs is maths so singling out one particular module as "the maths one" makes me wonder wtf the others are similarly i think you underestimate how important knowing about data structures and algorithms is. theyre like....what cs is all about. theyre not some minor topic you can dodge i realise criticism alone isnt very helpful to you so maybe you can give us a feel for what you already know about, that we might point you in the right direction what do you know about trees and graphs n poo poo? can u read a statement or proof written in propositional logic? how about using predicate logic to describe different properties of different types of graphs, e.g. acyclicity
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May 4, 2012 18:18
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ppp posted:watch the sicp lectures and do the hand motions that sussman/ableman does along with him wear the wizard outfit w/ the fez
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May 4, 2012 18:19
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ahhh spiders posted:are you qualified to do anything more than work retail i'm not sure i've made some userscripts and extensions and started on a few incomplete web applications. most recent project is a little grunt-based template & build system for ember applications. done a few tiny open source contributions. i feel like i'm qualified to do web development. but i don't know if an employer would think i was qualified to work. so idk. Rufo posted:what do you know about trees and graphs n poo poo? can u read a statement or proof written in propositional logic? how about using predicate logic to describe different properties of different types of graphs, e.g. acyclicity none of this; the highest math i've taken is calc I.
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May 4, 2012 18:20
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mr. tributary, the best way to get interview experience and know what sort of things you'll have to know/do for one is to... actually do an interview!!! find a job/internship you don't care about in the field you want, or at least related, and apply for it use it as a practice interview the worst thing they can do is say no. they don't pass your resume around to other companies and hang it up with "DO NOT HIRE THIS MAN" under it go to some interviews, fail miserably, and then know what you need to work on going forward
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May 4, 2012 18:21
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you're in school, you don't need experience to do an internship. that's the whole point of internships, to teach you the poo poo you actually need to know in order to work a real job
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May 4, 2012 18:21
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Werthog posted:you're in school, you don't need experience to do an internship. that's the whole point of internships, to teach you the poo poo you actually need to know in order to work a real job idk internships still have like interviews and poo poo and i assume they want you to have an actual CS background
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May 4, 2012 18:22
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School teaches you what you need for an internship. Then you get the internship, figure out you know the background but have no idea how to work the job for real, and the internship teaches you how to be an actual employee.
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May 4, 2012 18:23
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MononcQc posted:School teaches you what you need for an internship. if this was the case i wouldn't be here asking for materials to learn proper CS i go a terrible school that doesn't have a CS degree, and while i'm planning to transfer (god loving willing), in the interim i'm stuck spinning wheels
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May 4, 2012 18:24
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Inverse Icarus posted:mr. tributary, the best way to get interview experience and know what sort of things you'll have to know/do for one is to... actually do an interview!!! this is a cool idea because it will probably also make you less nervous for interviews you actually care about
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May 4, 2012 18:25
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Anal Tributary posted:idk internships still have like interviews and poo poo and i assume they want you to have an actual CS background they want you to show interest and enthusiasmin what you'll be learning about at the internship in those interviews
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May 4, 2012 18:25
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Anal Tributary posted:if this was the case i wouldn't be here asking for materials to learn proper CS if you spent the time studying some simple algos instead of posting why you can't you'd know them by now. also sicp, if you do the exercises, is not a one week thing unless that's all you do.
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May 4, 2012 18:26
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Anal Tributary posted:none of this; the highest math i've taken is calc I. then this should definitely be your starting point. being able to understand formal logic and reading/writing proofs and WHAT A GRAPH IS is a fundamental skill in cs you can forget most of what you did in calc cos its not reallllllly applicable much at this point
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Rufo posted:then this should definitely be your starting point. being able to understand formal logic and reading/writing proofs and WHAT A GRAPH IS is a fundamental skill in cs i liked signing up for the coursera algo course and by maybe the third lecture i had no loving clue what was going on. i'm about ready to pack it up on trying to get a dev job and just kill myself or do retail for the rest of my life
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