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to elaborate, the randall KM mentioned had a blend of '09 Old Rasputin and '09 Brooklyn BCS through vanilla, chilis, and oak chips. although it was kind of flat, the flavor was okay and the chili gave it a decent bite, but i wouldn't want an entire glass; Del Ducato's Verdi Imperial Stout it was not.Jack Skeleton posted:I came across Firestone Walker Parabola today at about $22.99 a bottle this year's? also, it was like $15-16 out here, can't believe someone would charge that much so close to where it's made.
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Jack Skeleton posted:I came across Firestone Walker Parabola today at about $22.99 a bottle and I decided to pass on it cause I felt that was a bit more pricey than I was used to. Good score. Out of curiosity, where are you at? Trying to figure out how far east it's gotten thus far...
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What beers are generally good for aging? Barleywines, stouts, what else? I think I'm going to start aging some stuff in my parents basement (so I won't be tempted to drink them, you see. Also: I don't have a basement) and already have a Stone IRS that I'm bringing there next weekend. Also, if anyone has any suggestions for easy to find (in Ohio) beers that are good for aging, I'm taking suggestions.
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May 18, 2012 13:50
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Mahoning posted:What beers are generally good for aging? Barleywines, stouts, what else? As a general rule, the higher booze-content beers age better. So along with stouts and barleywines, tripels, old ales, etc. generally age pretty well. IPAs generally don't.
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danbanana posted:As a general rule, the higher booze-content beers age better. So along with stouts and barleywines, tripels, old ales, etc. generally age pretty well. IPAs generally don't. what he said, with the addition that you generally get better results with stuff that's over 8% ABV. bottle-conditioned sours and saisons are good for aging, too. also, try to keep them upright and in a box (both for light protection and in case something explodes).
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May 18, 2012 15:36
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Coulda sworn someone said earlier that one could age Hopslam, or was that just more "it still tastes ok if you have one kicking around afterward"? 'Cuz if not I'm totally busting out my last one tonight.
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May 18, 2012 15:57
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Coulda sworn someone said earlier that one could age Hopslam, or was that just more "it still tastes ok if you have one kicking around afterward"? Theoretically you COULD age Hopslam if you wanted to, its just not going to taste at all like it did fresh. Usually even higher alcohol % DIPA are better fresh than aged. The hops are the main attraction to these beers and thats what is going to fade first and fastest.
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May 18, 2012 16:16
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Yeah I'd drink that Hopslam tonight.
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May 18, 2012 16:46
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Coulda sworn someone said earlier that one could age Hopslam, or was that just more "it still tastes ok if you have one kicking around afterward"? i've heard a few people say they've enjoyed older bottles- my girlfriend drank a nine month-old bottle that was stuck in the back of our fridge and said it was fine. obviously it loses something, but it doesn't turn into a straight-up disaster, either.
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May 18, 2012 16:47
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Coulda sworn someone said earlier that one could age Hopslam, or was that just more "it still tastes ok if you have one kicking around afterward"? I've had good Hopslam up until it reaches about 10mo old. After that it starts going downhill fast. Also had my last bottle of the year two nights ago, still delicious.
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May 18, 2012 17:21
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bengy81 posted:I am unfortunately not in Denver, I live in Castle Rock and the best I have is Rockyard. They have a couple fantastic beers, and some of their seasonal's are pretty good, I think the winter one was a doppelbock (maybe a RIS, can't remember) that was pretty good. If you're closer to the Springs, go to Trinity Brewing on Garden of the Gods road. Food's expensive, but they have a full lineup of good house brews and a fantastic guest tap selection.
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May 18, 2012 18:00
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Did these get posted yet? http://vimeo.com/user10854696 I don't care if they did, I'm posting it again. Because they are amazing. It's over two months old and on the internet so I'm sure they have been.
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May 18, 2012 18:01
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ShaneB posted:Did these get posted yet? The PtY video pretty much perfectly expressed my reaction to the first time I had Pliny the Elder.
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May 18, 2012 18:18
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crazyfish posted:The PtY video pretty much perfectly expressed my reaction to the first time I had Pliny the Elder. Ditto. Dark Horse, on the bottle, claims Double Crooked Tree "ages well." But that stuff is like 12.5%, so maybe that helps. Same with 120 (which is, what, 20%?). But in general, I agree with the sentiment that IPAs are better fresh.
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May 18, 2012 18:25
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danbanana posted:Ditto. The best place to age 120 is the drain in my opinion. Yuck.
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May 18, 2012 18:30
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At that point I think it's disingenuous to even call it an IPA. 11-20% ABV, huge residual sweetness? That poo poo is an American Barleywine.
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May 18, 2012 18:33
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I'm not even sure 120 is beer
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May 18, 2012 18:52
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Docjowles posted:At that point I think it's disingenuous to even call it an IPA. 11-20% ABV, huge residual sweetness? That poo poo is an American Barleywine. RB calls 120 an American stong ale. I dunno much about brewing so I don't know how the technical definitions come. To me, the stuff is pretty good, though a 5 oz-er is about all I'm able to drink at once. Double Crooked Tree's sweetness is very mild, a hair more than say, The Maharaja or Abrasive. It's a brilliant beer and easily one of my 3 or 4 favorite DIPA/IIPAs in the world.
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I have, on multiple and non-consecutive occasions, consumed 12oz of 120 in a session. I don't recommend it. Hoptimum is my favorite "gently caress you, that's ridiculous" DIPA. If I want to be bombarded with hops but also enjoy the taste, that's where I'm going.
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Wamsutta posted:Hoptimum is my favorite "gently caress you, that's ridiculous" DIPA. If I want to be bombarded with hops but also enjoy the taste, that's where I'm going. That's a completely different thing than "Holy poo poo, this beer is amazing!" DIPA. When done right, those are some of the best beers. And I think Hoptimum is closer to that than the "gently caress you" variety, personally.
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danbanana posted:Good score. Out of curiosity, where are you at? Trying to figure out how far east it's gotten thus far... In Los Angeles (Redondo Beach) Yeah, this years. Oddly enough a week or two ago I went into a Whole Foods asking if they got it in and they pulled a 2011 from the back. So yeah, I'm liking Whole Foods for their secret beer finds. I don't get why anyone can mark it up to the $23 range, you're walking out of there paying almost $10 more per bottle. Yeah, they had about 5 cases of it, but still. Not worth the convenience when it hasn't really hit most places yet.
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Jack Skeleton posted:In Los Angeles (Redondo Beach) Yeah, this years. Oddly enough a week or two ago I went into a Whole Foods asking if they got it in and they pulled a 2011 from the back. So yeah, I'm liking Whole Foods for their secret beer finds. My experience with FW stuff is that stores price it on their own whim. I've seen Sucaba as high as $30 (not at a bar... at a store) and as low as $14. I bought a few at a Whole Foods for $15. I think it may be because the reputation on those releases is somewhere between "rare" and not. I'm still curious to see how hard Parabola is to find in Chicago. I think it is more known than Sucaba, so demand is going to be a bit higher.
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FW around my area varies. I've seen Parabola and Abacus go for $15 average, the Anniversary blends are usually $20, Double jack and Walker's Reserve are in the $8-10 range. Black Xantus was $12
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I know for some people wheat beers are perfect on a summer day, but drat....it's 80 degrees today, and this nice cold glass of Sculpin is just fantastic.
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May 18, 2012 22:33
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Also: I saw 3F Blackheart at my local shop.....is this stuff any good?
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just tasted a saison that seriously tasted like the powdered "cheese" you find in packaged snack mix- anybody encounter that particular flavor in beer before? it was literally bottled within the last few days (not even for sale yet), so it hadn't turned, but it was apparently made with a sour mash. it was loving horrible (it was Legend, for those of you in VA).
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Mahoning posted:I know for some people wheat beers are perfect on a summer day, but drat....it's 80 degrees today, and this nice cold glass of Sculpin is just fantastic. Every day is a good day for Sculpin.
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Mahoning posted:Also: I saw 3F Blackheart at my local shop.....is this stuff any good? Meh. If it's not overpriced, it's worth a try but it didn't lift my skirt or anything.
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Hypnolobster posted:Every day is a good day for Sculpin. I drank a sixer of that over the week and I gotta say, as much as I like Sculpin AND it's been quite hot, I'm not in the mood for IPAs at all right now. It seems like a progression I see a lot that people go through is wanting more and more hops, and then burning out on IPAs for a while.
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I can only get Sculpin in bombers here and it's $10/ea  But it's so good
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Holy poo poo, St. Arnold Endeavor DIPA is loving amazing...finally a reason to be happy I'm stationed in Texas for the next two years. Too bad it's not a year-round brew.
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nwin posted:Holy poo poo, St. Arnold Endeavor DIPA is loving amazing...finally a reason to be happy I'm stationed in Texas for the next two years. Too bad it's not a year-round brew. Um actually it is! It's the year round version of Divine Reserve 11, and I agree, it is great and shows that when they feel like going that way and not just selling endless Lawnmowers for the Hank Hills of the world, they can totally put out a world-class beer. On the extreme end, I just had a bourbon barrel aged version of Karbach's imperial porter, and it was also pretty fantastic. Going to that brewery tomorrow, and totally looking forward to it.
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Um actually it is! It's the year round version of Divine Reserve 11, and I agree, it is great and shows that when they feel like going that way and not just selling endless Lawnmowers for the Hank Hills of the world, they can totally put out a world-class beer. You just made my day! Too bad it's bomber only, but for 5.99 @ Kroger, it's just a bit more than Hop Stoopid and way better.
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Opened a Sam Adam's Verloren and Norse Legend Today. Norse Legend (the sahti) was average. The Verloren (the gose) was surprisingly good. Slight mineral edge to it that gave it a nice, abrupt finish and made it really refreshing. I am going to grab another bottle or two for the weekend.
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ShaneB posted:Saison-Brett is pretty loving perfect. The keg version has pretty tame Brett, but it is an essentially perfect saison. I'm mentally comparing it to saison Dupont, but it's just a tiny bit creamier. I can't wait to hunt down bottles in a month. Had mine tonight at Norse. Not only is the bar way cheaper/easier to deal with, but the beer was fantastic. More brett than I think you got. The aroma leaned towards medicinal/band-aid, but was not too much to push it over. It was absolutely fantastic and I am going to hound some bottles too.
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Any thoughts on this trio of Southern Tier stouts? Creme Broule, Mokah, and Jahva?
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They're all great, I think, but only in like 4oz increments each. Don't try to drink a full bomber of any of them, or else you will hate yourself for the rest of the evening. Ehhh so now I'm having my last Hopslam of the year. Still awesome. Seems to lack a bit of the honey which I thought was the best part of it at this point, but all the same, I still think it's my favorite mega-IPA ever, even after all the competition I've had through the past year-ish. edit: 
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Having my first Firestone Walker experience tonight. Union Jack, from Binny's. Amazing. Seriously amazing. The weather is right for IPAs and this is, I think, the finest representation of the style I've had. Everything is perfectly in balance; full body, crispy hops, a little fruity; peerless. Hides it's not inconsiderable abv well, which seems a little dangerous, frankly. And on sale too; $7.99 for six, I believe. Also picked up some Southern Tier; Phin & Matt's and Hop Sun. First time with them too. The Hop Sun is a nice, surprisingly sweet wheat, but I've heard around the thread that it should be expected, so I don't know why I'm so surprised. Haven't tried Phin & Matt's. Ferreted away some Victory Summer Love too, since I've seen a lot of praise in the thread. Finally, picked up a ginormous Cold Spring Moonlight Ale, not so much because it looks good, but because it was hilarious to me. The reviews mention butter and vinegar as the predominant flavors, which is pretty much what I expected out of a $2 can of beer that's the size of my forearm. --- Is Cigar City stuff available here in Chicago? I looked around the Binny's and didn't see anything. I know it's being served at pubs around town, because of the craft beer week, but not sure if it's available otherwise.
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Mahoning posted:Any thoughts on this trio of Southern Tier stouts? Creme Broule, Mokah, and Jahva? The only beer subject likely to stir up as much controversy as DFH 120 Minute IPA.
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Angry Grimace posted:I drank a sixer of that over the week and I gotta say, as much as I like Sculpin AND it's been quite hot, I'm not in the mood for IPAs at all right now. It seems like a progression I see a lot that people go through is wanting more and more hops, and then burning out on IPAs for a while. I've timed my light/dark cycle for Memorial Day. Today I killed my growler of Societe's The Apprentice (I'll reiterate that it's outstanding), now working on some bottles of my own saison. When the pool's 87 degrees and it's 80 outside, that's IPA weather no matter how you slice it. Can't wait for the holiday weekend.
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