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Mister Roboto posted:That's right, and also partially why the old "point and click" puzzle-adventure genre died out too. No I'm pretty sure the point and click genre committed suicide
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homeless snail posted:The pinnacle of dumb Final Fantasy secrets was in FF12, where opening certain totally arbitrary chests completely locks you out from getting the most powerful weapon in the game. The only way you could even possibly know about the weapon or how to get it is if you read a strategy guide. Well, the weapon in itself is basically a bonus for whoever bought the strategy guide. Or read a guide online, I guess.
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Badguy posted:I missed out on the silly VIII stories. I know it was mentioned earlier, but the Obel Lake and the Alien sidequests certainly seemed like silly rumors at the time. "That's stupid. Why would they make you do all that? You have quite the imagination..."  bewilderment posted:Well, the weapon in itself is basically a bonus for whoever bought the strategy guide. Or read a guide online, I guess. I'd never thought of it that way. Something akin to the various pre-order bonuses that we see nowadays, perhaps?
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May 18, 2012 13:34
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Mister Roboto posted:Or luck. I've read a (few minute) amount of cases where people claimed they found it randomly. Could be lying, but then people also claim they figured out how to save Cid/Shadow the first time around when they were kids. There's one place in the Henne Mines that has chests that can drop it and IIRC, the chances were basically on par of getting a Zod rune in Diablo 2 (which means, functionally 0 unless you can find some way to have the game play itself for a thousand hours...or are incredibly..and I do mean INCREDIBLY lucky.) I think there's also one in the Necrohol of Nablus as well. gently caress that place. The zodiac spear and some of the overall shenanigans needed to fight some of the optional encounters in that game were some of the things that keenly reminded me why I left the gaming world right around the time FFVII came out. Sad, too, because I'm of the opinion that FF12 is a masterpiece overall. Best drat city design I've seen in a game basically..ever. TyroneGoldstein fucked around with this message at 19:08 on May 18, 2012 |
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May 18, 2012 14:22
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Ninja fetus posted:I remember a military flightsim that had a few rare UFO encounter moments in the game. I don't remember the name of the game, but that's pretty cool. Oh god yes. Which game was that? I have a really faint memory of that.
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Shai-Hulud posted:Oh god yes. Which game was that? I have a really faint memory of that. Not a military flight sim, but if I recall correctly SimCopter had a UFO that very, very rarely showed up.
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May 18, 2012 15:46
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Shai-Hulud posted:Oh god yes. Which game was that? I have a really faint memory of that. EF2000 had UFO formations flying over the Atlantic, I think. And if my memory isn't mashing up games again, dragons over Norway. 
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May 18, 2012 16:50
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What about in Killer Instinct when you could supposedly get Orchid (a busty female fighter) to go topless if you won a certain round. I've also heard there is a level with a mirror where you can see them once she wins. This is all like 15 years ago.
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May 18, 2012 17:52
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I wonder if kids today still come up with fake nude cheats for games, or if they're not as dumb as we were.
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May 18, 2012 17:53
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triplexpac posted:I wonder if kids today still come up with fake nude cheats for games, or if they're not as dumb as we were. If it's on PC it often becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that sings itself into existence. Kids today don't have to dream of cartoon/CG nudity thanks to the internet. It's not that they're not as dumb, just not as desperate.
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May 18, 2012 17:55
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Scienter posted:If it's on PC it often becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that sings itself into existence. Kids today don't have to dream of cartoon/CG nudity thanks to the internet. It's not that they're not as dumb, just not as desperate. Yes but when they put it into action, the results are more horrifying to a factor of 4 due to rendering power creep over the last 10 years..
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May 18, 2012 19:07
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Yes but when they put it into action, the results are more horrifying to a factor of 4 due to rendering power creep over the last 10 years..
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May 18, 2012 19:13
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Basically, it's a lot easier for a 10 year old to look at tits now than it was in 1993, so there's probably less demand for kids making up stories about getting Kitana to remove her top if you beat Shang Tsung 50 times without blocking. The novelty of turning the Naughty Dog logo into a naked woman isn't so appealing when you can just Google up any piece of anatomy you care to look at. Not to mention there are plenty of games that have tits in them already, without the need for cheats. Kids these days don't know what they're missin'! 
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May 18, 2012 20:12
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Ahh, ok, I didn't understand what you all were getting at. I get it now and yeah, I do agree. Tits on demand does completely kill any desire to make up legends like that..Scienter posted:Any implication on my part that there is less overall juvenile desperation now than "when we were kids" (15+ years ago for the sake of argument)-- especially with the Internet being in evidence-- is not only unintentional but of course farcical and demonstrably untrue. Tesnexus literally scares me at times. No lie.
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May 18, 2012 20:16
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Jastiger posted:What about in Killer Instinct when you could supposedly get Orchid (a busty female fighter) to go topless if you won a certain round. I've also heard there is a level with a mirror where you can see them once she wins. I know this one. B. Orchid has a No Mercy move where she flashes the opponent, with her back to the 'camera'. The rumor I heard was there was a mirror in one stage, and if you positioned everything right, you'd see the front of her when she did that move.
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Anyone remember the Super Mario RPG Sheep Attack (I think it was called)?For those who don't know, it was one of the more convoluted things I've ever unlocked. You had to buy two worthless items for semi-insane numbers of coins (200 coins for the "Mystery Egg" and 150 or so for the "Bathtub Ring"). You then have to think to equip Peach with the Bathtub Ring, use the Mystery Egg 10 times in battle, and you get the "Lamb's Lure". Then, you'd have to use the Lamb's Lure (which turns one enemy into a sheep, and you don't get coins or EXP for it) 48 times to get the Sheep Attack. What does the Sheep Attack do? Turn every (non-boss or non-miniboss) enemy into a sheep, potentially ending the fight with no EXP or coins gained. Part of me wonders if the whole "Egg and Ring" thing was a joke that didn't translate well, making it more obscure than it needed to be.
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FINISH THE PRINCESS STORY (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Neito posted:Anyone remember the Super Mario RPG Sheep Attack (I think it was called)?For those who don't know, it was one of the more convoluted things I've ever unlocked. You had to buy two worthless items for semi-insane numbers of coins (200 coins for the "Mystery Egg" and 150 or so for the "Bathtub Ring"). You then have to think to equip Peach with the Bathtub Ring, use the Mystery Egg 10 times in battle, and you get the "Lamb's Lure". Then, you'd have to use the Lamb's Lure (which turns one enemy into a sheep, and you don't get coins or EXP for it) 48 times to get the Sheep Attack. I heard about it but figured it couldn't be true because it was stupid. Then I watched my friend do it in his game and it was just  . SMRPG had a lot of weird secrets like that come to think of it.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I heard about it but figured it couldn't be true because it was stupid. Then I watched my friend do it in his game and it was just There was also the Star Egg, an item that did 100 damage to all enemies onscreen and was reusable. You got it in the casino - itself an absurdly obscure secret - by winning a bullshit 50/50 guessing game like a hundred times. There's no indication of any of this.
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May 19, 2012 05:55
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The gently caress? Seriously, I've beaten that game like 30 times, and I never new about that. How does this keep happening to me. 
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May 19, 2012 06:08
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Mario rpg is the best goddamn rpg, I swear to god. 
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pw pw pw posted:Mario rpg is the best goddamn rpg, I swear to god.
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homeless snail posted:The pinnacle of dumb Final Fantasy secrets was in FF12, where opening certain totally arbitrary chests completely locks you out from getting the most powerful weapon in the game. The only way you could even possibly know about the weapon or how to get it is if you read a strategy guide.
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The hoax I will always remember best was for Mortal Kombat on the SNES, one of the rumored blood codes. Only this wasn't some shady BBS on them internets, or some kids uncle who worked at Nintendo, oh no, this was a two page article in the Official (I think) Nintendo magazine. The article explained that the port was SUPPOSED to have blood but the cartridges themselves were simply misbalanced and in order to unlock the blood you had to enter a complicated key code, but to restore the delicate "balance" to the cartridge and allow it to work you must first tape a 50 pence piece to the right hand side of the cartridge. This was, of course, published with full pictures of the Super Nintendo version of the game with blood spurting everywhere. And, of course, published in April. The next edition had a whole section of the magazine devoted to letters they'd had from people mad at them and claiming poo poo like "I tried this for hours and when it didnt work I tried 2 20pences and a 10pence instead to see if that would work". sheepdemon fucked around with this message at 07:51 on May 19, 2012 |
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May 19, 2012 07:49
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My favourite secret in Super Mario RPG is the guaranteed 9999 damage you get if you hit "A" at the right time while using Geno Whirl. As far as I remember it doesn't work on bosses, though.
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Mammal Sauce posted:My favourite secret in Super Mario RPG is the guaranteed 9999 damage you get if you hit "A" at the right time while using Geno Whirl. As far as I remember it doesn't work on bosses, though. HOLD A B DOWN TO INCREASE POKEMON CATCHING SUCCESS - Every kid in grade 4.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:FFX-2 had that same bullshit times 50. There were many, many parts in the game where if you missed doing one tiny thing, which wasn't hinted at at all, you were forever locked out of the 100% completion secret ending. I mean something as insignificant as "talk to a certain character during a 10 second pause in dialogue". That's an actual example, and there were TONS of those.
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I agree.
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May 19, 2012 12:01
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Mister Roboto posted:HOLD A B DOWN TO INCREASE POKEMON CATCHING SUCCESS Funny how we had this floating around, even Sears putting up a sign that included it, and it turned out to be completely true if you managed to be frame-perfect. It's how TAS work for gen1 games.
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homeless snail posted:The pinnacle of dumb Final Fantasy secrets was in FF12, where opening certain totally arbitrary chests completely locks you out from getting the most powerful weapon in the game. The only way you could even possibly know about the weapon or how to get it is if you read a strategy guide. Actually you still have a chance of finding it and even getting more than one, but the other chest is can be in has a 10% chance of spawning on the way to the last optional summon and then you have a 10% chance that you'll get the spear or just a dark mote. It's still just as bullshit.
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cobalt impurity posted:Funny how we had this floating around, even Sears putting up a sign that included it, and it turned out to be completely true if you managed to be frame-perfect. It's how TAS work for gen1 games. It's not. Button presses modify the number the RNG gives, but it's not necessarily a positive effect.
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FrancisYorkPatty posted:Yeah, an emotionally-void setback that can't be avoided and requires you to shift focus onto someone entirely different. May as well just stamp her with "DO NOT USE EVER" because now I have to level up different dudes. It was a good idea to level her up because at one point you go to the Temple of the Ancients and you're FORCED to use her. Let me just tell you how much of a loving pain in the rear end that place is with an underleveled Aeris. Especially when you get to the gate/wall monster. gently caress you Aeris.
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Neat!
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May 19, 2012 12:48
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Mister Roboto posted:Reminder that this is NOT NEW TO FINAL FANTASY: Was this changed in the GBA version? Because I was practically falling over Pink Puffs in that one e: Besides the biggest gently caress-you in Final Fantasy is still a solid tie between getting Excalibur II in FFIX or pretty much any of the ultima weapons (minus Wakka's) in FFX. You want the best weapons for everybody? Hope you like pulling your hair out over a Chocobo race and then spending a few hours doing split-second button presses dodging lightning!
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Awesome!
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May 19, 2012 12:51
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The worst part of all the Final Fantasy poo poo is that I did or tried most of it. Lightning dodging, what the gently caress. Not like I couldn't beat the game without those items.
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Chinaman7000 posted:The worst part of all the Final Fantasy poo poo is that I did or tried most of it. Lightning dodging, what the gently caress. Not like I couldn't beat the game without those items. Yeah, impossibly hard minigames aren't limited to Final Fantasy, either. Dragon Quest had those casinos which had 1000000000000000 token prizes that meant you had to actually develop a virtual gambling addiction just to get them. The hours you'd need to invest to get the Super-weapon would be more than...just grinding to be that strong without it.
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Mister Roboto posted:They may have raised the "rare enemy" encounter rate there, possibly. But how'd you even know about the Puff room at all? I looked it up, looks like it isn't changed at all, sometimes the RNG is just absolute poo poo v  vI couldn't even begin to tell you, I haven't played that game since I was still in middle school but I do remember the pink flans, figuring out what they do, and fighting a shitload after-the-fact using sirens and quicksave abuse
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FrancisYorkPatty posted:I looked it up, looks like it isn't changed at all, sometimes the RNG is just absolute poo poo v Actually, the programming in the GBA version is famously sloppy, so perhaps it was some of that leaking into the RNG? As for the knowledge OF the Pinks, that just shows that internet and fan guides have totally changed how we work out rumor from fact.
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Mister Roboto posted:Actually, the programming in the GBA version is famously sloppy, so perhaps it was some of that leaking into the RNG? Yeah, that's what I meant. The RNG is pretty inconsistent from what people are discussing, so you don't even necessarily need any sirens or possibly even any quicksavescumming to run into more than one in a row. I probably just accidentally pulled some weird input that's an odd chance, kinda like how you could tweak the RNG in Red/Blue with the dumbest poo poo (A+B+Down like said earlier) If that's the case then I should go open a bunch of chests in FFXII and see what happens 
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