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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Assassin with bow and sword supremacy, holy poo poo. No RPG yet has made it so easy to switch on the fly between bows and swords. Also I can quickly switch my bow out for a shield when in close quarters.

edit: also bows feel so drat good. I feel like Ashitaka in Princess Mononoke, one of the few movies that I feel conveys the sheer fury of arrows.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 11:15 on May 25, 2012

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LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

Found a skeleton key that says it opens "all cells" including the ones in the capital city.

Are there actually other cell's for me to get thrown in? I've never gotten arrested while doing assholeish stuff elsewhere.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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LibbyM posted:

Found a skeleton key that says it opens "all cells" including the ones in the capital city.

Are there actually other cell's for me to get thrown in? I've never gotten arrested while doing assholeish stuff elsewhere.

It opens any locked door, not just jail cells.

(I wasted both of my skeleton keys by unlocking a empty jail cell in Gran Soren, throwing the jester in to it, and then got arrested for jester throwing and locked inside that same cell :cry:)

LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

Count Uvula posted:

It opens any locked door, not just jail cells.

(I wasted both of my skeleton keys by unlocking a empty jail cell in Gran Soren, throwing the jester in to it, and then got arrested for jester throwing and locked inside that same cell :cry:)

It was worth it to show that jester what for.

Ghost of St Helens
Oct 11, 2007

Tried to make my character look like me, and somehow ended up making Harry Potter. Guess I should have made him a mage instead of a strider.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Just got my copy today, can any goons comment on how important staying focussed statwise as you level up is important, how punished will I be if I wanted to try out all the classes.

Eddain
May 6, 2007

Stormgale posted:

Just got my copy today, can any goons comment on how important staying focussed statwise as you level up is important, how punished will I be if I wanted to try out all the classes.

After you hit level 100 your stat gains take a huge hit. Ideally you'd probably wanna switch around a lot pre-70, then stay focused for the remainder.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Eddain posted:

After you hit level 100 your stat gains take a huge hit. Ideally you'd probably wanna switch around a lot pre-70, then stay focused for the remainder.

Is there a cap per class, like how much switching about can I do with 70 levels?

Teeter
Jul 21, 2005

Hey guys! I'm having a good time, what about you?

It was a slow start with a lot of early deaths, but sticking with mage and moving on to sorcerer is paying dividends now. I really understand why that dev was quoted as saying it's the "strongest class."

My staff can kill any pesky wolf/harpy/goblin with one burst of its regular magic shot attack, with lock on and homing capabilities. High Maelstrom will obliterate anything and everything, High Comestion is highly effective in most situations, and High Gicel makes short work of the drake. The most dangerous thing to me lately are archers which still don't pose too much of a threat except for in one particular quest that had dozens of them around.

On one hand I don't like how the enemy spawns are static, but at least now if I know there's going to be a pack of wolves ahead then I can cast necromancy and use the charged orb barrier move to kill everything as I run straight through.


Aside from that, I've just switched my pawn over to mage so that I can have a pure support person in my troop if anybody wants him. The long-term plan is to have High Anodyne, High Halidom, Fire Affinity, Spellscreen, and two debuffs for crowd control. Prior to this he's spent a lot of time as a strider so he's got enough strength to act as a pack mule as well. Currently level 42 or so, GT is Rabbit Holed in case anybody wants him for free.

Yancy_Street
Nov 26, 2007

drunk octopus
wants to fight you
I'd just like to reiterate how amazing that title screen song is. Somehow, it manages to be both ironic and unironic at the same time... you really can't help but feel pumped by it.

If anyone's been looking for it, it's "Into Free -Dangan-" by a group called B'z.

http://youtu.be/ZHuxBr0FS_E

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Stormgale posted:

Is there a cap per class, like how much switching about can I do with 70 levels?

You can change classes whenever you want and you'll probably be able to get max rank in 5-6 out of the 9 available in those 70 levels if the rate of gaining vocational ranks isn't tied to your own level.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

OK Octopus posted:

I'd just like to reiterate how amazing that title screen song is. Somehow, it manages to be both ironic and unironic at the same time... you really can't help but feel pumped by it.

If anyone's been looking for it, it's "Into Free -Dangan-" by a group called B'z.

http://youtu.be/ZHuxBr0FS_E

Yeah, from the moment the song transitioned from the piano to the jrock I knew this was going to be an amazing game. It synced up perfectly with me hitting the main menu. :allears:

Samurai Sanders posted:

Assassin with bow and sword supremacy, holy poo poo. No RPG yet has made it so easy to switch on the fly between bows and swords. Also I can quickly switch my bow out for a shield when in close quarters.

Sword/Bow assassin owns and I feel like Wander, running around with all of my stamina upgrades and augments. I can hang onto monsters forever, which makes griffon fights pretty amazing. Jumping onto one when it takes off isn't suicide anymore!

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Stormgale posted:

Just got my copy today, can any goons comment on how important staying focussed statwise as you level up is important, how punished will I be if I wanted to try out all the classes.

I played with every class except 1 for at least a few levels and now my character is level 41, I don't feel nerfed or weak in any way for it.

Dog Kisser
Mar 30, 2005

But People have fears that beasts do not. Questions, too.
So holy jeez it's hard to choose what vocation you want to be. I'm playing Strider and I love Ensnare, but no one else gets that ability. I wanted to be Magick Archer when I first started out but people say the damage is kind of meh so now I don't know! Does Magick Archer damage scale off your magic attack or the normal stat for your bows damage (strength?)?

ChibiSoma
Apr 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
I really, really wish there were multiple save slots. :( Lemme test drive the other classes without committing to them on my main, Capcom, c'mon.

Wonder if that's something that could even be patched in. Doesn't seem like it. Just feels like if I go and switch vocations for awhile, I'm stat-gimping my character. Both the one I was and the one I want to be.

Teslavi
May 28, 2006
Ridiculous.
The magick bows are a seperate weapon type and are based purely off of your magick. Not only do they not have a strength stat, your secondary strength stat becomes --- when one is equipped.

Magick Archer starts off really weak, but it specializes in accuracy (since all of its bow attacks home in on its target) and access to elements. Getting the Acuity augment (+20% magick) from Sorcerer 9 brings the damage for Magick Archers up significantly.

I'll also say that I think Magick Archers are the worst class in the game, based on their skill selection and stat growth (heavily slanted towards defense and magic defense with mediocre HP). But, they're still definitely more than viable, and I also think they are the most fun to play by far. Especially when you set yourself on fire and jump on a boss monster's back and just sort of crawl around it to kill it. I don't think I could play anything else.

The skills I like the most for Magick Archer are Sunblast/Sunflare, Backfire/Immolation, and Scension/Grand Scension with daggers. For bow, I typically use Threefold/Sixfold Bolt, Ricochet Seeker/Hunter, and Explosive Bolt/Rivet. Seeker/Hunter Bolt gets switched in every now and then, but I've been using a support pawn with holy affinity so that's generally covered.

LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

ChibiSoma posted:

I really, really wish there were multiple save slots. :( Lemme test drive the other classes without committing to them on my main, Capcom, c'mon.

Wonder if that's something that could even be patched in. Doesn't seem like it. Just feels like if I go and switch vocations for awhile, I'm stat-gimping my character. Both the one I was and the one I want to be.

I know it's not an ideal solution, especially if you care about trophies/achievements, but you can create a second profile to play. I'm pretty sure the Xbox version get's access to all the online features with a free silver account, so it should be fine on either system.


I agree there should be multiple files.

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

It's ridiculous how much this game has ensnared me- I've put an ungodly amount of hours way too quickly in this game. Holy poo poo it is so good. This is easily, EASILY GOTY for me. Now that they have the general system developed I absolutely cannot wait to see what they do with the setting because if they end up creating a true full scale RPG and not like a Fable-style RPG (in regards to roleplaying/reactivity of the story/the size of the setting) then Capcom will pretty much forever hold the gold standard for RPGs.

I've switched between Strider, Ranger, Magic Archer, Fighter and Warrior and so far every single class has been insanely different in how they play. The way you have to approach fights changes so drastically depending on so many factors, and combat feels so goddamn good.. It makes every single other "open action RPG" seem like jokes- and the straight action games even moreso.

Despite being well into my New Game+ I've still missed out a bunch of things apparently, including a bunch of optional areas/dungeons -and- bosses(?).

I'm really wondering how sidestories/quests work since there appears to be some semblence of choice. how (ending spoilers)the "most valuable person" is decided for it alongside what happens if you pick the rear end in a top hat options.

Even the simple design of having a constant autosave and one save slot makes decisions seem so much more important/gives actions a lot of weight.

Capcom is weird as gently caress. They produce garbage like SFXT and then throw out this near-masterpiece with nearly no advertising. I really, REALLY hope this game becomes a success because it's just so obscenely good in all the right areas.

edit:

For Magic Archers, try using the Vortex Arrow combined with the Shadow Hold dagger spell. The vortex is incredibly strong and will drag literally every type of enemy other than giants into it. You don't have to fire it at an enemy either, and can just pin it onto a spot on the ground where you've put down the spell. It lets your party go bananas on groups of rough enemies and makes up for the lackluster damage of the class (outside of specific exceptions, where the magic archer does ridiculous monster damage)

Like every class there's vastly different ways to play them but that's what I used for my endgame where I had to rely heavily on my party to dish out all the damage.

Fereydun fucked around with this message at 13:32 on May 25, 2012

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
Thieves again
Has anyone figured out how to feed this cyclops? What do I do with the goblins?

Nelson Mandingo posted:

I visited the den, how do you get this quest?

Go through (there's a lever on top of the wall) the gate, or go over the gate. Talk to Betiah on the other side.

TorakFade
Oct 3, 2006

I strongly disapprove


I am seriously thinking about going out and buying this game RIGHT NOW. I loved shadow of the colossus, I love Western RPGs, I love action-rpgs like Diablo.

The only thing that worries me is that I fear having only one save-slot and excessive freedom in changing class/abilities would get me to gimp my character pretty badly if that is at all possible, I'm the completionist type who wants to try it all in one playthrough.

Anyways, since I know I'm picking this up anyways, is a melee fighter good and fun or it gets terribly outclassed later on and a Strider would be better ? I want to be beefy, I suck at being a glass cannon. I'd get a Mage main Pawn to wreck poo poo and buff from afar, then recruit whatever pawns suit my needs.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



I asked a few pages ago and nobody answered, but seriously does anyone know why Dutchess in Distress would fail as soon as the quest starts? The description of it sounds cool.

Malachite
Mar 2, 2004
I was just attacked by a griffon while doing an escort quest and thought I was screwed. Then a random lizardman hopped on the griffon's back and caused him to ride off into the sunset.

Thank you random lizard, I didn't know that they could even do that.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




So, I just found Silk Lingerie. My already purposely under-dressed sorceress will hopefully get rented out even more. Of course, I got thigh-highs to match the look.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Schubalts posted:

Thieves again
Has anyone figured out how to feed this cyclops? What do I do with the goblins?

I am an idiot. I wasn't grabbing them right. I forgot about shoulder-carrying. :saddowns:

Mindey Tyrone
Jun 21, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

TorakFade posted:

I am seriously thinking about going out and buying this game RIGHT NOW. I loved shadow of the colossus, I love Western RPGs, I love action-rpgs like Diablo.

The only thing that worries me is that I fear having only one save-slot and excessive freedom in changing class/abilities would get me to gimp my character pretty badly if that is at all possible, I'm the completionist type who wants to try it all in one playthrough.

Anyways, since I know I'm picking this up anyways, is a melee fighter good and fun or it gets terribly outclassed later on and a Strider would be better ? I want to be beefy, I suck at being a glass cannon. I'd get a Mage main Pawn to wreck poo poo and buff from afar, then recruit whatever pawns suit my needs.

It's really impossible to gimp your character because you can always change back for free once you buy a class.

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


Count Uvula posted:

I have no idea what to do with my character :( I switched to Magick Archer after 25 levels (and max vocation ranks) of being a sword and board Assassin; I like the magic bow skills a lot but my damage is just so piddly, even with the +magic fire knives. Should I just tough it out and hope I become effective later, or just switch to magic knight/continue as assassin?
On a different note, if anybody needs a warrior, my BFF warrior Oszais is level 37 and awesome.

Part of the problem is probably that you're switching to a magic class after 25 levels of classes that don't raise magic.

ClownSyndrome
Sep 2, 2011

Do you think love can bloom on bob-omb Battlefield?
I'm an hour or two in and I think my Arisen looks a bit crap, might just restart for that

Love my Pawn though (tried to recreate Andre the Giant), would that keep over? Dont think it would take that long to recreate in any case, one of the basic character presets was 90% of the way there

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Are there a lot of post-game only monsters? I've explored the entire world, done every quest I could find and have a quest called "The Final Battle" and going by some monster list I checked I've only seen like 2/3s of the games enemies.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Schubalts posted:

Thieves again
Has anyone figured out how to feed this cyclops? What do I do with the goblins?

Just take a normal goblin corpse (hobgoblin might work for all I know) and toss it down extremely close to the cyclops. the cyclops isn't aggressive so dont worry about that.

Your Moms Ahegao
Sep 3, 2008

quote:

I keep being impressed with the little things in this game. Lots of "hardcore" stuff in here that I didn't notice until a little bit ago. Namely, food that you gather will rot if not used. Picked up some fish and some meat from some beasts and after a day or so it is now rotten. Also getting wet not only drains your stamina faster, as you are weighed down by wet clothes, but mages cannot cast fire magic when wet, not to mention your lantern will go out if you're in water. And the dread when the sun begins setting and you're a long way from a town or outpost. My god, the dread!

I also like the little touches like when you're out of stamina and bent over breathing heavily, your pawn will come up to you and touch your back and ask if you're okay or tell you to take it easy.

Little things, but I like them. Gives the game a very unique feel. Also forms a pretty cool bond with your main pawn that I didn't think would be there. I figured they'd just be a pack mule or something, but I find myself genuinely caring about my pawn.

Girafro
Jan 5, 2012

I will do schticky to your body

VulgarandStupid posted:

So, I just found Silk Lingerie. My already purposely under-dressed sorceress will hopefully get rented out even more. Of course, I got thigh-highs to match the look.

Oh yeah, you'll get summoned for sure.

But seriously, why is almost every goddamn pawn a woman? I feel kind of awkward when my MC is a grizzled old man type warrior surrounded by a bunch of teenage girls because that's all anyone makes and truthfully they've usually got a good set-up. It's just weird having this old dude surrounded by young women.

And yeah, my pawn is a woman too, but she's muscular and not really young looking like every other pawn ever is apparently and she never gets high ratings on appearance when others summon her. :smith:

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Emong posted:

Part of the problem is probably that you're switching to a magic class after 25 levels of classes that don't raise magic.

Yep, this is most likely it. He, presumably quickly, went to being an Assasin which mostly dumps stats into Strength and then doesn't do any damage because he doesn't have any dex or magic. He didn't even mention which class he was pre-Assassin but since he was Sword and Boarding, I'd imagine it was Fighter.

dygbert
Dec 9, 2011

Really, really enjoying the game so far. My only issue with it is that my pawn looked really good in the character creator but once I got into the game and she started expressing herself through face muscle manipulation, she become some hideous bogtroll looking creature. I've become emotionally attached to my character and her flaws are charming to me now so I probably won't reroll.

Also, is there any reason to make a new character for the sole purpose of trying a new vocation? Are there no restrictions or limitations at all when switching to another?

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




quote:

And the dread when the sun begins setting and you're a long way from a town or outpost. My god, the dread!

"For the night is dark, and full of terrors" is immediately what I think when it's starting to get dark in Dragon's Dogma and I'm miles away from my objective.


quote:

I'm wondering that Guts' sword might turn into the dragonslayer if it's forged because that description is spot on the description for the dragonslayer.

Sorry for the doublepost. I have a dragon forged guts sword, and no it does not. Guts is in the golden age arc in Dragon's Dogma.

All that happens to the sword is it gets really loving swole.

Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 15:11 on May 25, 2012

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation


What's this from?

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

a foolish pianist posted:

What's this from?

Dragon's Dogma.

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


The Moon Monster posted:

Are there a lot of post-game only monsters? I've explored the entire world, done every quest I could find and have a quest called "The Final Battle" and going by some monster list I checked I've only seen like 2/3s of the games enemies.

I'm pretty sure almost everything gets upgraded. Less than a minute outside town, I got jumped by a Black Chimera while fighting a bunch of Grimgoblins. If they replaced the dire wolves with hellhounds, I'm screwed.

dygbert posted:

Really, really enjoying the game so far. My only issue with it is that my pawn looked really good in the character creator but once I got into the game and she started expressing herself through face muscle manipulation, she become some hideous bogtroll looking creature. I've become emotionally attached to my character and her flaws are charming to me now so I probably won't reroll.

Also, is there any reason to make a new character for the sole purpose of trying a new vocation? Are there no restrictions or limitations at all when switching to another?

Only if you've spent 30+ levels as a magic class or a strength class and want to switch to the other. Your stats would be super wonky.

Tricky fucked around with this message at 15:16 on May 25, 2012

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

So if I want to play a Magic Archer it's best to build to it from a Mage or Sorcerer? Their main damage stat is magic?

Also where are all of the rats hiding?

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Any Warriors out there? Can you give me any insight on which skills you find the most handy? My main pawn is a warrior and she seems to bounce between hilariously overpowered and hilarious ineffective. Why the class only uses 3 skills is beyond me, but any advice on real good ones to equip would be appreciated.

She's my main frontline fighter. She had warcry for a while but I learned that without it monsters seem to attack her anyway. Any tips?

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Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Girafro posted:

Oh yeah, you'll get summoned for sure.

But seriously, why is almost every goddamn pawn a woman? I feel kind of awkward when my MC is a grizzled old man type warrior surrounded by a bunch of teenage girls because that's all anyone makes and truthfully they've usually got a good set-up. It's just weird having this old dude surrounded by young women.

And yeah, my pawn is a woman too, but she's muscular and not really young looking like every other pawn ever is apparently and she never gets high ratings on appearance when others summon her. :smith:

What I've noticed is that most people opt for a male main character and a female pawn. I went the other way around and have this massive grizzled old man as my pawn and a woman main.

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