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Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

The Moon Monster posted:

If anyone is trying to do the "Duchess in Distress" quest (the one that takes you into the blighted manse) it's apparently only doable after you accept the quest to go to the Greatwall but before you complete that quest :bravo: Once you do the Greatwall quest you can accept it but you immediately fail it. You still keep the item that lets you into the manse at least. Who knows what other quests are only available in that timeframe.

You really have to search around for those quests, I tell you. I missed the one you just described and nearly missed a few. Such as getting the stone tablet at the grave spot in Witchwood.

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Dogbutt
Nov 26, 2011

Look at my face.
MAJOR POST GAME SPOILERS

OK so I'm now the Maker, and I'm just going around picking up pigs. So, what do I do now?

Teslavi
May 28, 2006
Ridiculous.

Dogbutt posted:

MAJOR POST GAME SPOILERS

OK so I'm now the Maker, and I'm just going around picking up pigs. So, what do I do now?

Post-game
Hold the Godsbane. Use it.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005


e: beaten

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

The Moon Monster posted:

If anyone is trying to do the "Duchess in Distress" quest (the one that takes you into the blighted manse) it's apparently only doable after you accept the quest to go to the Greatwall but before you complete that quest :bravo: Once you do the Greatwall quest you can accept it but you immediately fail it. You still keep the item that lets you into the manse at least. Who knows what other quests are only available in that timeframe.

Hahaha drat, this is why I'm waiting for a comprehensive The Hero achievement guide before going out to do every quest. God drat that's ridiculous.

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Started playing Plain fighter again to max it out for the first time since I got the game and man, what this game gets that so few games understand that a shield can be a weapon too. I love that part about how the fighter plays.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!

Policenaut posted:

Hahaha drat, this is why I'm waiting for a comprehensive The Hero achievement guide before going out to do every quest. God drat that's ridiculous.

Yeah I'm waiting for someone to make a guide too. It's too much work to visit literally every single nook and cranny of every camp/town in between every single storyline mission.

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Ah figured out how to get that dumb facebook connect thing going so here is my dudette.



Skreeonk and her pawn Kreeaung, feat: random escort quest guy.

Overbite
Jan 24, 2004


I'm a vtuber expert
I know there's been complaining about the lack of fast travel but if there was then I wouldn't have had a grand adventure going from the Great Wall back to Gran Soren. I had to fight a whole mess of Dire Wolves and Snow Harpies, a Cyclops, 2 Chimeras, 2 Ogres (at once! In the dark!), lots of bandits and undead warriors, and as soon as I got within sight of the Gran Soren gates a gang of Sorcerers showed up. I started out in the morning and by the time I got back to the city it was late at night.

The game has lots of problems but no other game gives me that same sense of ~adventure~ that this one does.

Also Evil Canadian your pawn likes to fall off cliffs.

Shura
Jul 3, 2005
How do you kill Chimeras? I killed the snake and the goat and then I climbed onto the lion and started slashing at it, but its health bar just kept refilling.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Shura posted:

How do you kill Chimeras? I killed the snake and the goat and then I climbed onto the lion and started slashing at it, but its health bar just kept refilling.

Chimeras don't have any way of healing so unless there was a bandit mage healing it or something I'm not sure why that was happening. Doing damage to the lion makes the chimera's hp go down a lot more slowly than killing the goat or snake, though.

You know that some enemies have multiple bars worth of health represented by the pink dots next to their health bar, right?

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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I just got to NG+ and I'm thinking I'd rather start over without keeping my stuff... Hmm.

Shura posted:

How do you kill Chimeras? I killed the snake and the goat and then I climbed onto the lion and started slashing at it, but its health bar just kept refilling.

Are you sure the goat was dead? That head can cast healing spells on the chimera sometimes.

e: Kinda beaten? Hm, I think I've only seen them cast healing spells in the post game, but I'm not certain.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Count Uvula posted:

I just got to NG+ and I'm thinking I'd rather start over without keeping my stuff... Hmm.


Are you sure the goat was dead? That head can cast healing spells on the chimera sometimes.

I'm pretty sure only Gorechimeras can do that.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Dogbutt posted:

Well I did it! I beat the Dragon! But there's a LOT of questions I have

Why the hell did the dragon steal Selene or whatever her name is? And why am I going down town with her!? I don't really understand

Next, why the heck did the Dragonforged and King die? What did my heart do to them?

And finally, what the heck is a Dragonforged weapon?


Selene is your 'beloved' character according to your affinity, doing Selene's questline maximizes her affinity, so you get her as your romance, yeah.

The Dragonforged and Duke die because the Dragonforged ran and hid from the Dragon, still an Arisen, the Dragon still had his heart. The Dragon mentions that the Duke sacrificed the person most dear to him in order to persuade the Dragon to leave, he didn't slay him at all and was still an Arisen when you killed the Dragon. They got their hearts back when you got your back, and since they were immortal up until that point... The Dragonforged turns to dust and the Duke dies of old age due to how long their hearts have been inside the Dragon.

Dragonforged Equipment is pretty much a rank above level 3 equipment, it's basically the best you can get and you can only get it by killing a powerful dragon, like the one who made you Arisen. Slaying a major Dragon with weapons tempers it to Dragonforged, slaying THE Dragon gets you a full equipment boost to Dragonforged.

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Overbite posted:

Also Evil Canadian your pawn likes to fall off cliffs.

What you call falling, I like to call tactical redeployment :smug:

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Count Bleck posted:

Dragonforged Equipment is pretty much a rank above level 3 equipment, it's basically the best you can get and you can only get it by killing a powerful dragon, like the one who made you Arisen. Slaying a major Dragon with weapons tempers it to Dragonforged, slaying THE Dragon gets you a full equipment boost to Dragonforged.

Dragonforging stuff doesn't quite work that way. Any time you slay a draconic enemy you have a chance of having one item you have equipped dragonforged. Slaying The Dragon or the Ur-Dragon will dragonforge all of your equipped gear.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!

Overbite posted:

I know there's been complaining about the lack of fast travel but if there was then I wouldn't have had a grand adventure going from the Great Wall back to Gran Soren. I had to fight a whole mess of Dire Wolves and Snow Harpies, a Cyclops, 2 Chimeras, 2 Ogres (at once! In the dark!), lots of bandits and undead warriors, and as soon as I got within sight of the Gran Soren gates a gang of Sorcerers showed up. I started out in the morning and by the time I got back to the city it was late at night.

The game has lots of problems but no other game gives me that same sense of ~adventure~ that this one does.
Yeah once you actually get a hang of the game and learn the routes to take to get to places the game's lack of quick fast travel isn't really that big of a problem. 10k for a ferrystone really isn't that much at all, unless you're just constantly spending all your money on equipment upgrades that provide a marginal bonus and then buying all new equipment every time it's available.

Port crystal pro tip: Put one on top of the ledge where you come out of the Witchwood right by Cassardis. That way you have a way to quickly get to Cassardis and the Encampment, as well as a relatively quick/safe path through the Witchwood to the south eastern part of the map. Between that port crystal and the ancient quarry shortcut, getting from Gran Soren to anywhere in the southern half of the map doesn't take more than 10 minutes.

The Moon Monster posted:

Dragonforging stuff doesn't quite work that way. Any time you slay a draconic enemy you have a chance of having one item you have equipped dragonforged. Slaying The Dragon or the Ur-Dragon will dragonforge all of your equipped gear.
You can have more than one item get dragonforged after defeating a dragon. I've had a weapon and a piece of armor both get upgraded multiple times. I believe someone earlier said that there's a 30% chance that a piece of equipment gets upgraded, but that seems kind of high for how rarely it happens, at least for me.

VDay fucked around with this message at 02:54 on May 30, 2012

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Okay, do attacks to exponentially more damage the further away you are from your enemy? I think I just killed a drake in one shot from halfway across Gransys.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

What sorts of things would I get from killing the drake in Dragonfire Grove? I'm around level 28 (I think) and since I've had over 300,000 gold for a while with nothing to spend it on (I've done no plot quests past Everfall), I was thinking about buying one of those ridiculous arrows that apparently one-shots anything. Has anyone used them and can confirm that it would kill that drake?

It's just always there every time I pass by, being alive and whatnot. I don't like that.

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003
Ogres in the dark seems to be pretty common. I found not one but TWO pairs just as I followed the river in search of the goddamn snakeskin purse.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Gestalt Intellect posted:

What sorts of things would I get from killing the drake in Dragonfire Grove? I'm around level 28 (I think) and since I've had over 300,000 gold for a while with nothing to spend it on (I've done no plot quests past Everfall), I was thinking about buying one of those ridiculous arrows that apparently one-shots anything. Has anyone used them and can confirm that it would kill that drake?

It's just always there every time I pass by, being alive and whatnot. I don't like that.

If you've the Rift Crystals to spare just hire a high level Strider to take care of it. Before I beat the game I did a drake/wyvern run and my main pawn killed the Drake before I could cast Higher Maelstorm

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
Spellscreen is such an ugly spell. I like to think people take my support mage when they don't want their characters to look like they are covered in plastic wrap all the time.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Det_no posted:

Ogres in the dark seems to be pretty common. I found not one but TWO pairs just as I followed the river in search of the goddamn snakeskin purse.



Those two are specifically there because the abbey full of nuns is just south of the river. They spawn to help you fulfill a quest.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Lotish posted:

Those two are specifically there because the abbey full of nuns is just south of the river. They spawn to help you fulfill a quest.

I spent two days in game trying to find them, no dice. Two chimeras though.

Flame112
Apr 21, 2011
I killed two ogres inside the ancient quarry and got credit for that nun quest.

Azraden
Oct 26, 2010

Ooh - a crevice
Just as a FYI for everyone going for The Hero, all the quests don't have to be done in a single playthrough. You can check what quests you've completed under the History thing and you won't have to do those in any NG+s for the trophy/achievement.

e: At least that's what I've read. I'll be able to confirm it myself either tonight or tomorrow.

Azraden fucked around with this message at 03:33 on May 30, 2012

Diviance
Feb 11, 2004

Television rules the nation.
Hm. Seems even if you use the Arisen's Bond, whoever you max affinity with closest to fighting and defeating the dragon is the one who is chosen.

Clocks
Oct 2, 2007



So, after the greatwall, I got a quest to go see the dragonforged before facing the dragon. Except I was all like, "I didn't see what was downstairs in the castle!" so I ran downstairs and the quest updated to "face the dragon." Uhh yeah no. I'm guessing I can see the dragonforged anyway and it'll give me his quest dialogue, but I'm hoping I didn't miss anything by doing that?

Also I'm guessing once I DO go to face the dragon it'll be a point of no return thing, and then I can finally read all those post-game spoilers everyone is talking about.


I have a few quests I think I can do, but I definitely missed a billion. I'm not really too worried about achievements, though it kind of sucks anyway. I've also not faced the drake or whatever yet, just gave it a wide berth the one time I was there, so maybe I should go do that now. Hmm.

Also, I found one of those "learn about monsters" tomes, and it was for a hydra, so I like to imagine when I give back the pawns I've been using they'll look at "gained hydra knowledge" and think I am badass for facing a hydra. Except not really.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

The General posted:

I spent two days in game trying to find them, no dice. Two chimeras though.
Not only are they right there by the abbey, I think there's two pairs (or I ran away and the two ogres wandered to another area on the opposite side of the blighted forest).

Buckwild Dorf
Apr 5, 2011

by XyloJW

Clocks posted:

So, after the greatwall, I got a quest to go see the dragonforged before facing the dragon. Except I was all like, "I didn't see what was downstairs in the castle!" so I ran downstairs and the quest updated to "face the dragon." Uhh yeah no. I'm guessing I can see the dragonforged anyway and it'll give me his quest dialogue, but I'm hoping I didn't miss anything by doing that?

Also I'm guessing once I DO go to face the dragon it'll be a point of no return thing, and then I can finally read all those post-game spoilers everyone is talking about.


I have a few quests I think I can do, but I definitely missed a billion. I'm not really too worried about achievements, though it kind of sucks anyway. I've also not faced the drake or whatever yet, just gave it a wide berth the one time I was there, so maybe I should go do that now. Hmm.

Also, I found one of those "learn about monsters" tomes, and it was for a hydra, so I like to imagine when I give back the pawns I've been using they'll look at "gained hydra knowledge" and think I am badass for facing a hydra. Except not really.

The time you saved is better than the value of the vest I received. Just gun it for post game.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Azraden posted:

Just as a FYI for everyone going for The Hero, all the quests don't have to be done in a single playthrough. You can check what quests you've completed under the History thing and you won't have to do those in any NG+s for the trophy/achievement.

e: At least that's what I've read. I'll be able to confirm it myself either tonight or tomorrow.

Oh dang, so only the quests listed in history and such are the ones that count? Well, that helps.

Clocks
Oct 2, 2007



skinny white boy posted:

The time you saved is better than the value of the vest I received. Just gun it for post game.

Yeah, I thought this might be the case and was considering going for it, but there's a few quests I think I should wrap up. Though I guess if I didn't do it now I'd have to trek back there again... Ehh...

The General
Mar 4, 2007


coyo7e posted:

Not only are they right there by the abbey, I think there's two pairs (or I ran away and the two ogres wandered to another area on the opposite side of the blighted forest).

I looked and looked, and tried and tried. To the abbey, through the forest. From Quarry to River, there were no ogres. I found them in the Quarry. How did that guy get from one end to the other to find there was no key, then back again. There were a few ogres and a bunch of undead in there. He should be slaying this dragon, not me.

Azraden
Oct 26, 2010

Ooh - a crevice

Policenaut posted:

Oh dang, so only the quests listed in history and such are the ones that count? Well, that helps.

Well I went through the google doc someone posted earlier, skipped anything that was random (like ambush and freeing the prisoners) and the notice board stuff. Then I just checked off what I had completed under my quest log. So now I have about 10 sidequests I need to do. It also lists when they become available, which is handy.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Azraden posted:

Well I went through the google doc someone posted earlier, skipped anything that was random (like ambush and freeing the prisoners) and the notice board stuff. Then I just checked off what I had completed under my quest log. So now I have about 10 sidequests I need to do. It also lists when they become available, which is handy.

You make it sound pretty easy, so that's great! Unfortunately I missed a bunch in NG+ so now I'll have to finish the game real quick and start over :doh:

At least as like a Level 80 Fighter with full Ur-stuff I'll just plow through the game as quick as lightning.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I probably should have checked this before I wiped out my character. Oops.

Do fighters or warriors have any recourse against stuff that flies besides waiting for your pawns to bring it down? I hate being made useless in certain situations in video games., so they're probably right out if they have no options.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
Anyone with the guide, can you tell me the recipe/location of drops for Cloudy Wine?

Diviance
Feb 11, 2004

Television rules the nation.

The General posted:

I spent two days

That there is your problem. A total of four ogres spawn in that forest, two by the abbey and two a bit closer to the quarry along the wall. At night, of course.

Role Play McMurphy
Jul 15, 2010
Does your whole quest history carry over to New Game +, failed quests and everything?

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The General
Mar 4, 2007


Diviance posted:

That there is your problem. A total of four ogres spawn in that forest, two by the abbey and two a bit closer to the quarry along the wall. At night, of course.

There was a night too. I searched from mid afternoon, all through the night and morning and got bored around dusk and did the quarry mission.

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