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Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Whoops. I guess I went through the Mine for the first time (I think it was called a mine?) backwards last night IE from Shadowfort to the Capitol. Pretty awesome when I got to the other side and got the quests for it: There's a door in there I can't ope-...oh you already opened it. Uh, well I bet there's monsters in-oh you killed them already? Uh, ...good job?.

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Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Ending spoilers:

Anyone buy into the logic of the world at the end? Creating chaos to drive the will to live forward and all that? The game did a pretty good job building towards something that could go either way unlike Mass Effect 3, but the whole thing just rubbed me the wrong way. At first, it was mainly because I don't care for those types of endings in general. However, it didn't occur to me when I beat it last night but after sleeping on it the logic is pretty backwards. It's like another form of the broken window fallacy. What did you guys think?

The presentation of all of it, I thought, was pretty great but the logic behind it was just broken.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Saint Freak posted:

Whoops. I guess I went through the Mine for the first time (I think it was called a mine?) backwards last night IE from Shadowfort to the Capitol. Pretty awesome when I got to the other side and got the quests for it: There's a door in there I can't ope-...oh you already opened it. Uh, well I bet there's monsters in-oh you killed them already? Uh, ...good job?.
Wow, you can do that? I thought you had to go from one side due to the pressure plate triggered doors.

Man these people thought of everything it seems.

Manxome Foe
Apr 6, 2005

Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Now that I'm actually at a computer, I wanted to share some knowledge with goons since I've dropped 60 hours into this game over the last week.

- SAVE OFTEN. Save all of the time. You will die, it will be bullshit, then you'll die again. Some things WILL one shot you. If you save all of the time, it doesn't matter. PROTIP - press START then BACK to "quicksave"

- You're going to be weak as hell for a while in the beginning. AT least until you hit level 20ish. Things like sword and board bandits will wreck you.

- ENDGAME SPOILERS HERE: If you choose not to fight the Dragon, or God, when you get to him, it plays a little cutscene then gives you a game over and makes you reload your save. You do get an achievement for choosing these options but they don't progress the story, meaning you HAVE to fight the Dragon and God

- You can't gift Dragonforged items. If you equip someones pawn with Dragonforged items they will disappear into the ether. A group of goons that have been playing together have tested this multiple times and it always fails.

- Choose your class and equipment carefully before you fight the Dragon. Upon killing the Dragon everything you're wearing becomes Dragonforged, and you will get a unique weapon or weapons depending on your class. I beat the Dragon the first time with a Mystic Knight and got a Dragon Mace. I beat him the second time and got a set of Dragon Daggers and a Dragon Magick Bow.

If anyone has any questions I can answer most anything reliably having beat the game twice and poured over the strategy guide extensively.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Don't forget that to grab someone you have to stagger them first. This can take most of a melee combo or two for a dagger class, while a warrior can probably do it in one hit.

LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

I'm not near my game right now, or I'd just pop it in and check for myself.
I found some daggers earlier that said they did something to the effect of draining life from the enemy (or something along those lines), I forget what the daggers were called. It implied that I'd regen life for hitting enemies. Does anyone know if those daggers heal at a good rate, and do they count as a "magical source" of healing (and therefor can only recover health up to a certain point)?

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Can't say. I do know that the MA augment Regeneration will recover your maximum health, so it's possible these daggers could do that as well.

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."
Picked this up today, and I'm not sure what to go with for body type. The vocations that interest me most are the strider/ranger and Warrior (for the bigass swords). My initial character build was made more for range, the S size. Will that hinder me too much as a warrior?

haunted bong
Jun 24, 2007


Good tip for earning money a not-so-easy way: selling dragonforged golden weapons. A dragonforged golden bastard sells for a little over 300k, and you can buy them at the black cat for a little over 100k. Not sure if forgeries sell for as much, though.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Kingtheninja posted:

Picked this up today, and I'm not sure what to go with for body type. The vocations that interest me most are the strider/ranger and Warrior (for the bigass swords). My initial character build was made more for range, the S size. Will that hinder me too much as a warrior?

Don't worry about it too much, it really isn't that big of a deal beyond, you know, aesthetics.

While we're giving out tips: when you're depositing your inventory into storage if you press start it'll let you instantly dump an entire category of items into storage at once instead of you having to do it one-by-one. Good for the materials pane.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Kingtheninja posted:

Picked this up today, and I'm not sure what to go with for body type. The vocations that interest me most are the strider/ranger and Warrior (for the bigass swords). My initial character build was made more for range, the S size. Will that hinder me too much as a warrior?

Wait, this matters besides look? I went with a average/slightly buff build for strider, a little taller as well.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Kingtheninja posted:

Picked this up today, and I'm not sure what to go with for body type. The vocations that interest me most are the strider/ranger and Warrior (for the bigass swords). My initial character build was made more for range, the S size. Will that hinder me too much as a warrior?

Weapons apparently scale to your character's size, so your reach will suffer a bit, but you'll be a smaller target and have an easier time getting between the legs of giant monsters. Your choice, really. I find being a large guy is pretty awesome.

Shalinor
Jun 10, 2002

Can I buy you a rootbeer?

RBA Starblade posted:

Wait, this matters besides look? I went with a average/slightly buff build for strider, a little taller as well.
It affects your reach as well as your stamina use/regen. I think fatness affects stamina, whereas height is reach vs how big a target you are.

A fat little warrior, for instance, will have a somewhat difficult time, especially in keeping up with a sprinting group. GnomeChomsky soldiers on, though, because he's a crusty little dude.

EDIT: Speaking of, whoever sent me the awesome shield and stuff for him, thanks!

Shalinor fucked around with this message at 18:20 on May 30, 2012

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Kingtheninja posted:

Picked this up today, and I'm not sure what to go with for body type. The vocations that interest me most are the strider/ranger and Warrior (for the bigass swords). My initial character build was made more for range, the S size. Will that hinder me too much as a warrior?

Smaller size reduces your range and the amount of weight you can carry, and makes it easier to get knocked around. (apparently. I've never been hit and not been staggered as size S, maybe you can tank hits at higher weight?) However, it also reduces the size of your hitbox, significantly lowers your stamina consumption, and lets you run faster, so it can be worth it. I don't know how well it would work with warrior but I've been a size S strider and ranger all game and have loved it. Just make your main pawn be large and heavy so it can carry all your things.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



bear is driving! posted:

- SAVE OFTEN. Save all of the time. You will die, it will be bullshit, then you'll die again. Some things WILL one shot you. If you save all of the time, it doesn't matter. PROTIP - press START then BACK to "quicksave"

Eh, that's not true at all. I was running through as a squishy mage with no defensive or health augments and dying was never an issue. The game's not hard. Bandits carrying bows are the most dangerous thing you'll find, but they're not even in the final dungeon.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Shalinor posted:

It affects your reach as well as your stamina use/regen. I think fatness affects stamina, whereas height is reach vs how big a target you are.

A fat little warrior, for instance, will have a somewhat difficult time, especially in keeping up with a sprinting group. GnomeChomsky soldiers on, though, because he's a crusty little dude.

Stamina use too I think

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

Kingtheninja posted:

Picked this up today, and I'm not sure what to go with for body type. The vocations that interest me most are the strider/ranger and Warrior (for the bigass swords). My initial character build was made more for range, the S size. Will that hinder me too much as a warrior?

Heavier warrior weapons/armor will basically take up all of your carry capacity as a small dude. As long as you don't mind microing all your items onto your pawns it's no big thing really.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I wish I was allowed to cast Maelstrom in the dukes room after the first meeting

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I just read some sales numbers from Japan, 330k total sold so far (300 on the ps3, 30 on the 360), it was the #1 seller last week by a good margin (though the competition for the week was not stiff in Japan, #2 was Mario Tennis on the 3DS). Maybe it will be a multi-million (or at least more than one million) seller world-wide...

TescoBag
Dec 2, 2009

Oh god, not again.

So the Griffin thought he would fly over Gran Soren after the Ox cart event and I managed to get a lucky shot off at him with my bow that downed him. Not long after...



I've been considering going from ranger to assassin. I have gone Strider to 15, then ranger to 32. Am I going to be a bit retarded in stats?

Also someone hire my pawn :( he is a badass fighter. Gamertag is T3scoBag

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Samurai Sanders posted:

I just read some sales numbers from Japan, 330k total sold so far (300 on the ps3, 30 on the 360), it was the #1 seller last week by a good margin (though the competition for the week was not stiff in Japan, #2 was Mario Tennis on the 3DS). Maybe it will be a multi-million (or at least more than one million) seller world-wide...

I posted a link at the top of the page for the UK, 3rd best selling here after the predictable top 2 of Ghost Recon and Max Payne.

Also I just spoke to Aldous, then received a quest from Ser Maximillian. Went back to get some story quests and got arrested as soon as I went into the Duke's castle :wtc:

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Samurai Sanders posted:

I just read some sales numbers from Japan, 330k total sold so far (300 on the ps3, 30 on the 360), it was the #1 seller last week by a good margin (though the competition for the week was not stiff in Japan, #2 was Mario Tennis on the 3DS). Maybe it will be a multi-million (or at least more than one million) seller world-wide...

That's loving stellar for Japan, isn't it? Good to hear, I'm already itching for a sequel.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Shalinor posted:

It affects your reach as well as your stamina use/regen. I think fatness affects stamina, whereas height is reach vs how big a target you are.

A fat little warrior, for instance, will have a somewhat difficult time, especially in keeping up with a sprinting group. GnomeChomsky soldiers on, though, because he's a crusty little dude.

EDIT: Speaking of, whoever sent me the awesome shield and stuff for him, thanks!

I've been loving Gnome Chomsky and probably won't be releasing him for a bit. I have so little time to play during the week and I feel like everyone on my friend list is whooshing past! What voice did you use for him? It's been my favorite pawn voice so far.

But thanks to Losonti for the new shield and sweet rapier! No thanks for the three star appearance rating though. :colbert:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
How much evidence is needed to ensure that Fournival stays free? I'm not going to talk to the people he had evicted at least

Malachite
Mar 2, 2004

TescoBag posted:


I've been considering going from ranger to assassin. I have gone Strider to 15, then ranger to 32. Am I going to be a bit retarded in stats?


The only real "bad" combination is going something heavy on physical attack like assassin or warrior to mage after 50+ levels. Physical attackers still get use out of a magic stat, but mages don't use strength as far as I know. But even then, you'll have much higher HP & defense than someone going pure mage.

Don't worry about stats too much. Try out the different classes!

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Hobo Siege posted:

That's loving stellar for Japan, isn't it? Good to hear, I'm already itching for a sequel.
Nah that's pretty a normal success story in Japan sales.

Pretty much three tiers to sales in Japan:

Million+ - Particular Mario, Pokemon, Monster Hunter games and other historically established IPs
300k - Tales Games, Fire Emblem, Kingdom Hearts, etc
50k less - Budget niche titles

You'll see some outliers here and there in between the various ranges. For example FF13-2 was something like 500k sales a week after launch.

The expected sale values for Capcom on DD were actually pretty conservative though since it's new IP:

Resident Evil 6: 7 Million
DmC Devil May Cry: 2 Million
Dragon's Dogma: 1.5 Million

So yeah it's good news all things said.

Rascyc fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 30, 2012

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Scott Bakula posted:

How much evidence is needed to ensure that Fournival stays free? I'm not going to talk to the people he had evicted at least

Get two affidavits to that effect from people that should be marked on your map, find the travelling merchant guy and pay him for forgeries until he stops giving them to you, then submit (only) the last and highest quality one as evidence too.

edit: They may not have been on the map. I believe I found one in his house under a dresser, the priest in the cathedral gave me another, and I believe a soldier at Windbluff Tower gave me a third.

see you tomorrow fucked around with this message at 18:46 on May 30, 2012

beanbrew
Jan 3, 2011

the way is not in the sky

the way is in the heart

Scott Bakula posted:

How much evidence is needed to ensure that Fournival stays free? I'm not going to talk to the people he had evicted at least

I bought all the forged affidavits and submitted nothing else.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Size matters for one thing, and that one thing is being able to fit in the holes in the ground at The Shadow Fort.

That's about it, yeah.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

beanbrew posted:

I bought all the forged affidavits and submitted nothing else.

Where do I get them from? The Black Cat?

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Finally finished the Nameless Terror quest. It helps to stick to the roads as you go looking for them, and when you've beaten the first four the quest log will update slightly and you'll find the last one right outside of the Cassardis gate.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

So how does one prevent Pawns from turning to stone?

Because every time I give them an petrification medicine they never loving use it.

Edit: They finally loving used it.

Also an for vowels not for consonants!

Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 19:07 on May 30, 2012

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Well, I've finally reached the Idol quest. Where do I get the golden idol?

flymonkey
Feb 7, 2012
Well, I started a completely new game. I made both my Arisen and pawn kids because I thought it would be neat to get to 'grow up' by buying an Art of Metamorphosis and aging them up once I get to the duke, sort of like OoT.

Although, I doubt anyone is going to hire a kid fighter pawn, but really all I need is to save up for a Metamorphosis. Going to try to get all the quests this time around too.

Scott Bakula posted:

Well, I've finally reached the Idol quest. Where do I get the golden idol?
From what I know, if you do the escort quest with Fournival's kid (Symone?) perfectly, she gives you a Golden Idol.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Everyone talks about the trial, so I have to ask why do you want to find Fournival innocent so bad that you'd forge multiple affidavits?

Also when do you use the idols? I got a bronze one sitting in my storage.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
I'd wager about a solid fourth of the pawns I see are little kids, for what little that is worth.


^ After you meet the duke, you'll get those quests. You don't want to use the Bronze idol though if you want to maximize your shops. Honestly if you've been exploring as much as you have been though, I am not sure you'll see that much mileage anyway. I did the shop turn ins incorrectly but still found everything in chests around the world except a few Madeline armor pieces (which are sidegrades in a lot of cases).

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Little kid with grown up voices. They creepy.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I remember someone way earlier in the thread saying you can craft using stored materials without going to get them or something. Is that true or should you keep certain things on your character?

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Lotish posted:

Everyone talks about the trial, so I have to ask why do you want to find Fournival innocent so bad that you'd forge multiple affidavits?

Also when do you use the idols? I got a bronze one sitting in my storage.

You get a massive discount from his shop. If he ends up guilty you get nothing.

e: also if you haven't gotten the Gold Idol yet it will lock you out of it.

see you tomorrow fucked around with this message at 19:14 on May 30, 2012

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marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

RBA Starblade posted:

I remember someone way earlier in the thread saying you can craft using stored materials without going to get them or something. Is that true or should you keep certain things on your character?

You can combine while at the inn because your storage is right there. Unfortunately if you're out in the field I don't know of a way to use the materials in storage. Several times I'll pick something up and try to combine it with something I know I have in storage, but it'll say "...if you had the materials."

Frankly I'm curious if there are any indespensible combinations. I haven't done many because I tend to save my stuff for enhancing gear.

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