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Thank god I've never come across a beer brewed with cilantro, can you imagine anything more polarizing.
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danbanana posted:I seriously doubt there are people dumb enough to pay $15+ per bottle for Parabola just because they can "get hosed up" on it. I'm sure there is, but, who cares?
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Jun 2, 2012 18:00
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bartolimu posted:Higher ABV reflects higher starting gravity, which means higher malt density in the wort. That indicates higher flavor concentration, since malt is composed not only of sugar but also flavor compounds that vary by malt type. It's not rocket science, and I have to wonder if you're being intentionally dense here. Sure, you can throw a shitton of hops into a beer with a potential alcohol of 3.2%, but then you'll get an unbalanced hop bomb beer that a lot of people won't be able to appreciate. Speaking of aging, its hard to take claims of "but my extra flavor from starting gravity!" seriously when the standard mode of big beers is to age them 6 months till some of that flavor is gone and the beer is better balanced. Not that it doesn't give unique product compared to lower gravity ready to drink stuff, but still wanted to get my favorite cheap shot about aging in since I've been relatively equanimous about it lately. But yeah there should be 4 way collaboration where each brewery makes a permutation of with or without cilantro and session or big beer. And then we can all choose our side in the first annual beer war.
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Jun 2, 2012 18:03
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bartolimu posted:Higher ABV reflects higher starting gravity, which means higher malt density in the wort. That indicates higher flavor concentration, since malt is composed not only of sugar but also flavor compounds that vary by malt type. It's not rocket science, and I have to wonder if you're being intentionally dense here. Sure, you can throw a shitton of hops into a beer with a potential alcohol of 3.2%, but then you'll get an unbalanced hop bomb beer that a lot of people won't be able to appreciate. I think the original argument was higher ABV = 'more flavor' = 'more better'. Yes I guess higher ABV beers are more concentrated due to using more malt per oz etc etc but overall it seems like a silly generalization to make to such a wide variety of styles. I've had plenty of low ABV styles (sours, for example) that had more and better 'flavor' than say a CBS. But hey that's just my intentionally dense opinion.
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Jun 2, 2012 18:09
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Manky posted:Thank god I've never come across a beer brewed with cilantro, can you imagine anything more polarizing. Dog Fish Head's beer Positive Contact contains it.
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Jun 2, 2012 18:16
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zedprime posted:But yeah there should be 4 way collaboration where each brewery makes a permutation of with or without cilantro and session or big beer. And then we can all choose our side in the first annual beer war. barrel-aged cilantro barleywine dry-hopped with summit, 150 IBU, 20% ABV PS gently caress cilantro
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Jun 2, 2012 18:19
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Aged in oak chardonnay barrels, of course. Also, bacon. edit: dear god I really hope Rogue never finds this thread 
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Jun 2, 2012 18:23
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In non-retarded beer argument news, some beer snobs are way too generous (or maybe just have way too much money, or both!). Living in Ann Arbor is great. I get to drink Jolly Pumpkin beer, and give people Jolly Pumpkin beer. In exchange for 2x Cinco Anos in a trade and 4x sold at cost to two people, I got all this back:
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Jun 2, 2012 18:25
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Cointelprofessional posted:Dog Fish Head's beer Positive Contact contains it. Thanks for the heads up, now I know what to never ever drink. funkybottoms posted:barrel-aged cilantro barleywine dry-hopped with summit, 150 IBU, 20% ABV Just imagine how well it would do on BA
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Jun 2, 2012 18:31
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Having my first Smuttynose Big A IPA. It's good. Very aggressive hop nose and taste (I'm new at this but I would guess Chinook and Cascade; gonna look it up later to see). The booze isn't hidden at all and it's the bulk of the aftertaste. There's sweet malt trying to balance the beer but not quite doing it. I'm not sure they wanted balance in a beer called Big A, though. Good but I'd buy Finestkind next time. Mmmhm, Finestkind. edit: I was right! Sorta: quote:For our hopping regime we went with Cascade and Nuggets in the boiling addition. Centennials were added every 5 minutes for the last 30 minutes of the boil. We added Crystals into the whirlpool. Dry hopping was done in both the fermentor after primary fermentation and the bright tank. We used a mixture of Chinook, Nuggets, and Sterlings in the fermentors and whole leaf Centennials in the bright tank.
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Jun 2, 2012 19:01
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I love that DIPA, but haven't seen it in awhile. From my probably outdated and crappy tasting notes, I'd put my money on Cascade, Centennial, and Chinook. edit: beaten by edit 
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Jun 2, 2012 19:04
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Today's menu: 2 bombers of Chocolate Oak aged Yeti, a smokestack of Long Strange Tripel, a Southern Tier Creme' Brulee' Imperial Stout, and a 6 pack of SA Cream Stout. I guess I'll stay inside today.
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Jun 2, 2012 19:08
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Thanks bartolimu for explaining it better than I could have. Last night I had Goose Island's Nut Brown Ale, it's the best brown ale I've had since Coffee Bender and I don't think that should even count because it's too loving good.
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Jun 2, 2012 19:21
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American Craft Beer Festival Boston A++ would drink again.
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Jun 2, 2012 22:12
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Summer beer chat: I picked up a sixer of Brooklyn Summer Ale. It's not Summer Love, but it's more than drinkable. Nice bready flavor, good crispness, a nice beer to kick back with, for sure.
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Jun 2, 2012 22:23
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Agreed. Pick up a case of cans on the way to a BBQ for: excellent results.
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Jun 2, 2012 22:26
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Captain Shortbus posted:Today's menu: 2 bombers of Chocolate Oak aged Yeti, a smokestack of Long Strange Tripel, a Southern Tier Creme' Brulee' Imperial Stout, and a 6 pack of SA Cream Stout. I guess I'll stay inside today. Ah, Creme Brulee.. Hope you have friends to share that one with.. Either that or good health insurance to cover your future diabetes. God drat, Chocolate Yeti is so good.
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Jun 3, 2012 00:35
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I still remember that Classic exchange last year in the Let's talk beer thread of old: Me: Zomg I'm at southern tier and having a sample of the creme brulee and it is soooooo fuckin' awesome!!!! I'mma buy two of these!!!  ShaneB: lol you are dumb Me: Oh god you're right I'm having one of the bombers now and I can't finish it oh god I want to die  I wonder about the countless thousands of beer drinkers who underwent this same process.
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Jun 3, 2012 01:01
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I am wary of bombers. A DIPA is about the heaviest beer I can reliably polish off a bomber of.
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Jun 3, 2012 01:26
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TenaciousTomato posted:American Craft Beer Festival Boston A++ would drink again. I volunteered at the Friday night and Saturday afternoon sessions.  This is the first fest I've ever been to and I can't ever see buying a ticket at $50 when volunteering means getting in early and being able to get a few samples before the doors open and the lines get crazy. And the schedule is such that the time just blows right by. A few personal highlights and lowlights. Amherst Brewing Co. ran out of their Pistachio Cream Pie beer before I got a chance to try it. I asked for a sample of their Breakfast in Bed without knowing what it was supposed to be (only learned it was a stout later) and have no idea what I got, but it sure as hell wasn't a stout. I think I ended up with their Bloody Mary Pale ale instead.  I liked Dogfish Head's Namaste and love their Sah'Tea. Really rich, fruity and flavorful, which makes it the opposite of Sam Adams's Norse Legend sahti. Just didn't get much flavor out of that at all and I'm not sure what they were going for. Finally got a chance to try something from Lawson's Finest with a sip of their Maple Tripple. The maple made for a nice background, but it didn't really wow me. The lines were amazing though, and half of their chalkboard had been erased halfway through the Saturday session. Homer mention: Olde Burnside Brewing had a really good imperial black & tan. Not sure how that works exactly. Their Hop't Scot IPA just came out this year and is a nice mild take on the style with a solid malt backbone. Three Heads Brewing had something called Bromigo. Apparently an amber ale made with maple and smoked malts. Sort of a rauchbier lite and not exactly easy to compare to anything I've ever tasted before. Good, but one of those things you try mostly to try. I can't imagine having more than one in a sitting. I had Cape Ann Brewing's Fisherman's Tea Party (and was assured it had not political connotations) and got a slightly similar flavor out of it. Something to do with one of the varieties of tea (smoked) they used in the brew. Tullycross Tavern didn't really bring their A-list beers, broke a couple of fest rules and caused a little trouble. Which kind of sucks because they're another local homer pick and I want to like them. I think they would have done themselves a favor by pouring their TCT Pale. Their apricot wheat was at least more subtle and natural-tasting than whatever goes into Magic Hat #9.
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Jun 3, 2012 01:59
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You know you can just throw a stopper onto the bottle and drink it later, right?
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I should add, if I don't finish a bomber of big-rear end beer, it's usually because I've been drinking it slowly during a long evening and fall asleep while watching a movie. It's usually already in the glass.
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Jun 3, 2012 02:05
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Bought three sixers of Summer Love, hope I enjoy it as much as I did last year. Also will finally try Rayon Vert and Apollo.
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Jun 3, 2012 03:15
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After a life-long quest, I think I've come to determine that, for me, Ayinger makes the best beer. Good god it is so good. mmmm. Having one right now. Their doppelbock, dunkel, and weissbier are all pretty much liquid awesome in my mouth. drat those crafty Germans.
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Jun 3, 2012 03:16
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Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti goes really good with roasted marshmallows. It really brings put the cayenne at the end. It's a really good campfire drink!
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gfarrell80 posted:After a life-long quest, I think I've come to determine that, for me, Ayinger makes the best beer. Good god it is so good. mmmm. Having one right now. Their doppelbock, dunkel, and weissbier are all pretty much liquid awesome in my mouth. drat those crafty Germans. Ayinger is one of the very best, imo. Have some Ayinger wallpapers!      They did an entire 12 month calendar like this, but these are my favorite ones.
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Jun 3, 2012 03:23
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bartolimu posted:I'll echo this. Aging will mellow out the fruit a bit and bring up the sourness. It'll be different, maybe as good, but I can't see it getting better. It's probably the best sour beer produced in the Western Hemisphere. I had a glass of the Sang Noir tonight and it's definitely one of the best sours in the western hemisphere. I wish I could do a blind tasting of Cascade Sang Rouge, Cascade Sang Royal, Russian River Supplication, and Russian River Consecration. They are all pretty similar and I want to see how they stack up against one another.
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Munkaboo posted:Bought three sixers of Summer Love, hope I enjoy it as much as I did last year. Summer Love is good, but I'd rather have 3 4 packs of Apollo personally, gently caress that beer is good.
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Paul Proteus posted:
Sorry I couldn't make it out - I was just too loving beat after work. Brewing's not an easy job.  Darkness is one of those beers that gets a lot of hype and praise, but I've never understood it. Every time I've tried it, the predominant taste has been one of raspberry cough syrup, and it completely turns me off to the beer. I've been told that it may have something to do with the hop character, but I've had plenty of hoppy imperial stouts that haven't given me that flavor. Surly's other beers - Cynic, Furious, Bender - are great, but I just can't get into Darkness. Midorka posted:Last night I had Goose Island's Nut Brown Ale, it's the best brown ale I've had since Coffee Bender and I don't think that should even count because it's too loving good. I'm so glad we make this again, even though it's occasionally a total pain in the dick to lauter. It's just a drat fine no-frills brown ale, and brown ales just don't seem to get much attention these days. /edit: I'm drinking Boulevard Tank 7 saison with a blue-Camembert cheese, and holy hell is this ever a nice combination. Not quite as good as Founders Centennial IPA with the same cheese, though. RocketMermaid fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jun 3, 2012 |
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Went to mikkellers bar last night and had two pleasant beers and one quite disappointing one. I am madly in love with three floyds, and their das kleine schwarze einhorn did not let me down. I guess it was a quite malty dark lager, it was sort of like drinking a really malty rye bread - in a good way. The cantillon gueuze is still world class. God drat is it a good gueuze! But then, the beer I actually had the highest expectations to, fell flat on it's belly. I had a stillwater beer at CBC and it was one of the best beers I've ever had, so I had to try the table beer, when I saw it on tab. The flavour profile was really good, but the mouthfeel was watery and the carbonation was close to non-existant. It seems to not be an issue at ratebeer, so either I'm just strange or perhaps there was an issue with this keg? Either way it was quite a let down, unfortunately.
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Ubik posted:Sorry I couldn't make it out - I was just too loving beat after work. Brewing's not an easy job. No excuses! Darkness 09 was actually pretty fantastic. Definitely no raspberry or fruit flavors. Lots of cocoa and creamy mouthfeel. @ Bart Cuvee de Tomme was this years. It was flat as hell and was very spicy, almost like a winter warmer. Very little sour. It smelled great but was really underwhelming.
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Ayinger is one of the very best, imo. Have some Ayinger wallpapers! Awesome, thanks man!
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Jun 3, 2012 14:28
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Ubik posted:I'm so glad we make this again, even though it's occasionally a total pain in the dick to lauter. It's just a drat fine no-frills brown ale, and brown ales just don't seem to get much attention these days. To me, most brown ales are boring. Goose Islands Nut Brown Ale has enough going on in it to keep me interested with great balance without being considered radical. The mildly sweet finish hinting at caramel and hints of cocoa throughout are what do it for me.
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Jun 3, 2012 16:23
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Midorka posted:To me, most brown ales are boring. Goose Islands Nut Brown Ale has enough going on in it to keep me interested with great balance without being considered radical. The mildly sweet finish hinting at caramel and hints of cocoa throughout are what do it for me. You havent had cigar city's maduro brown yet I assume
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Munkaboo posted:You havent had cigar city's maduro brown yet I assume Dogfish Head's Indian Brown Ale is also a drat fine beer that's a bit of a departure from other brown ales, as it's hoppier and more alcoholic but doesn't lose its sense of balance. It's one of my favorites from them. Really, there are lots of breweries that make good brown ales - Bell's, Goose Island, Surly, New Glarus, DFH and others - they just tend to get lost between the IPAs and imperial stouts. It's a shame because brown ales make such perfect autumn drinking and tend to be a touch easier on the palate and liver than most IPAs. Brown ales started me on drinking beer, though, so I guess I have a pretty big soft spot for them.
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Jun 3, 2012 18:06
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Midorka posted:Summer Love is good, but I'd rather have 3 4 packs of Apollo personally, gently caress that beer is good. Just had Apollo and I can say that it does not hold a candle to victory's sunrise weissbier, imo. I didnt like it much. Make that another beer I dont like from Sixpoint
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Munkaboo posted:You havent had cigar city's maduro brown yet I assume Cigar City doesn't distribute to New Jersey yet, they should get on that. Ubik posted:Dogfish Head's Indian Brown Ale is also a drat fine beer that's a bit of a departure from other brown ales, as it's hoppier and more alcoholic but doesn't lose its sense of balance. It's one of my favorites from them. Indian Brown Ale was my favorite brown ale before I had Goose Islands. Most brown ales I have dry out too much and I don't like the nut flavor lingering. That's what I love about Goose Island's and Dogfish Head's they are a tad sweeter than the others I've had and don't leave a dry lingering nut flavor. Smuttynose's Old Dog Brown Ale (from memory) is one I didn't like for this reason, Newcastle being another. The breweries you mentioned, none distribute here except Dogfish Head and Goose Island unfortunately, though I had had Surly's Bender, and Coffee Bender and Coffee Bender I hold in very high regards. Time to drink a Goose Island Nut Brown Ale with a from-the-grill cheeseburger.
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Midorka posted:The breweries you mentioned, none distribute here except Dogfish Head and Goose Island unfortunately, though I had had Surly's Bender, and Coffee Bender and Coffee Bender I hold in very high regards. It's not a standard brown by any means, but Terrapin's Hop Karma is a good brown IPA with a nice malty, nutty background that I've really enjoyed recently. I don't care for most Terrapin products except for Moo-Hoo, but this was quite something.
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Just a few sips into Parabola, very glad I poured myself a small glass and kept the rest in the bottle. I'm brewing today and wanted to wait until I was almost done with the day to crack it open in case it was an asskicker. It is. Reminds me first and foremost of World Wide Stout - it's got that super-boozy bourbon nose, one of the prettiest heads I've seen on a beer, ever, is tempered a touch by the wood from the barrels, but somehow doesn't become a mess. It's the difference between being bludgeoned by a hammer and a careful cerebral dissection. Wonderful.
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Drinking a Sam Adams Cherry Wheat and it tastes like it was cut with cherry chapstick. Every couple sips I detect the hint of an interesting flavor profile but before I can taste it outright the melted slurpee finish washes it away. I don't hate it, but it's probably the most disappointing thing I've had by Sam Adams.
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