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Clearly Capcom isn't doing it right! 
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Jun 18, 2012 18:01
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Samurai Sanders posted:I don't understand, you can't make pawns mystic knights. You can, however, place multiple cannons down without them disappearing and hit them all at the same time.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:01
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:You can, however, place multiple cannons down without them disappearing and hit them all at the same time.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:02
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Samurai Sanders posted:Holy loving poo poo. Oh yeah, if you have Magic/Great Cannons placed down, and you then place a Ruinous Sigil down that triggers on an enemy and also has the Cannons inside its range, the Cannons go nuts. Welcome to Lagworld.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:05
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You get bonus points whenever your pawns hit your cannon blob, too!
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Jun 18, 2012 18:11
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Wow, I wondered if I was missing some huge parts of what made the mystic knight class good, turns out I was. edit: wait, what direction do the magic balls fly if the ruinous sigil activates them? Do they fly towards the enemies that set off the sigil, or away?
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Jun 18, 2012 18:15
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Samurai Sanders posted:Wow, I wondered if I was missing some huge parts of what made the mystic knight class good, turns out I was. Honestly there are so many balls flying around when that happens it doesn't even matter. Also Magic cannons set each other off. So having 3 out at once and shooting them at each other makes piles of light shoot at people. It's how I fight the Ur-dragon when I'm rolling mystic knight. Still doesn't do as much damage as assassin but it is a little more entertaining than hanging onto one spot and popping mushrooms every once in a while.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:25
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They fly off in random directions but it's fantastic on large enemies if you can place them right on them. For some reason ogres die really loving fast with abyssal anguish but it might be that I'm way overleveled or darkness actually has a use.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:25
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Oh yeah, if you have Magic/Great Cannons placed down, and you then place a Ruinous Sigil down that triggers on an enemy and also has the Cannons inside its range, the Cannons go nuts. I knew about laying down multiple cannons, but didn't know ruinous on activation procced them too lol. You can also have 3 ruinous sigils down at once too. I would pop ruinous-vortex-ruinous-ruinous for a bounce party. edit: It's a real shame the game doesn't scale on ng+ so I could just test the mileage of laying down piles of cannons and sigils at a cyclops with nutso health. Bitch Twinkles fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jun 18, 2012 |
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Jun 18, 2012 18:32
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Samurai Sanders posted:Wow, I wondered if I was missing some huge parts of what made the mystic knight class good, turns out I was. With that many projectiles and a large enemy on top of them if you can time it right it really doesn't matter. With the right elemental damage buff as well it makes wyrms and their ilk trivial. At around 2 frames per minute or so.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:33
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I'm level 32 or so and the last story related thing I've done was going to that old Arisen dude's hill-cave. Basically, I've been dicking around for 23 hours, with a Vocation maxed and halfway through the second. I found a bronze idol in the aforementioned cave. What's it for, and what's up with the silver/gold idols I keep hearing people talk about? Are they in obvious locations or will I just stumble across them as I go? Also: Ricochet Arrow absolutely destroys the Ogres in the pass, holy poo poo
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Jun 18, 2012 18:41
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Never did silver, but gold you will probably downright miss without looking it up. May miss it even after considering some people's horror stories.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:43
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Does anyone know if you get to keep the stuff you spend rift crystals on when you start a new game? Like the various dyes and the character editing book.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:47
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Here's two things I hate about the job system: 1. Changing vocation will strip you naked even if your new class qualifies for the same equipment 2. You can't buy augments/skills from other vocations you have leveled up despite the fact it would cost you no extra DP, just the wasted time in switching over and re-equipping everything
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Jun 18, 2012 18:48
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Bakalakadaka posted:Does anyone know if you get to keep the stuff you spend rift crystals on when you start a new game? Like the various dyes and the character editing book.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:50
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Spork o Doom posted:All that stuff appears to be there in NG+. I do not know what happens if you start up a wholly new character. Yeah I've done a few new game+, I mean a whole new dude.
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Jun 18, 2012 18:57
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Bakalakadaka posted:Yeah I've done a few new game+, I mean a whole new dude.
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Jun 18, 2012 19:01
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So I need the Witch Hunt quest to come up because I've picked up the notice board quest for King Bay Leaves. Supposedly I will not get access to them without doing it. However, the conversation by the fountain I'm supposed to overhear has never happened while I was in town; I didn't even know there was one to hear before googling the quest. I was one of those people who couldn't find the witchwood and assumed it was a later quest area and got locked out by going to Gran Soren first. Am I screwed for finishing this since I didn't complete the previous quests there? In a similar fashion, my witness from Windbluff tower disappeared upon entering the castle and I was not able to turn him in. If Fournival is found guilty, will I not be able to babysit his daughter for the Golden Idol? I couldn't do that beforehand because the quest simply never showed up,but it looks like I may have several permanently unfinishable quests in my list now. Whoever designed this "system" where some quests are or are not missable, some may disappear from noticeboards with arbitrary time limits, and many of them are hidden prerequisites you may simply never run into or know exist should really have reconsidered their reasoning. vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Well I never saw or heard of it, so I must have missed something else and got locked out of it. 
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Jun 18, 2012 19:28
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So I need the Witch Hunt quest to come up because I've picked up the notice board quest for King Bay Leaves. Supposedly I will not get access to them without doing it. However, the conversation by the fountain I'm supposed to overhear has never happened while I was in town; I didn't even know there was one to hear before googling the quest. I was one of those people who couldn't find the witchwood and assumed it was a later quest area and got locked out by going to Gran Soren first. Am I screwed for finishing this since I didn't complete the previous quests there? I'm not too sure about this, so take my word with a grain of salt but if you're at the point where you're doing Fournival's trial quest (Trial and Tribulation), then the Witch Hunt may have already expired. I remembered doing Witch Hunt first then the trial.
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Jun 18, 2012 19:38
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Yeah, Witch Hunt triggered for me right after I met the duke but before I committed to any quests. I went outside and when I got to the town square people were talking about the witch, and then my pawns said "This pawn ill likes the sound of a witch hunt." Then the quest activated itself without me having to talk to anyone.
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Jun 18, 2012 19:50
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So I need the Witch Hunt quest to come up because I've picked up the notice board quest for King Bay Leaves. Supposedly I will not get access to them without doing it. However, the conversation by the fountain I'm supposed to overhear has never happened while I was in town; I didn't even know there was one to hear before googling the quest. I was one of those people who couldn't find the witchwood and assumed it was a later quest area and got locked out by going to Gran Soren first. Am I screwed for finishing this since I didn't complete the previous quests there? You don't get Witch Hunt unless you do Quina's escort in the Witchwood early in the game, like before going to Gran Soren (I'm not sure when that quest actually expires). If you miss her escort, which is pretty easy to miss (I completely missed it on my first playthrough) then you can never get into the section of Witchwood that has the king bay leaves. Fortunately the notice board quests are really just bonus exp/gold and you don't have to do any of them. Short answer: yes
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Jun 18, 2012 20:05
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Samurai Sanders posted:Absolutely nothing, as far as I know. It is 100% a new game (other than trophies that is). Yeah, you don't get to keep your dyes when you start a new game 
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Jun 18, 2012 20:15
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Taking cool screenshots is hard! 
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Jun 18, 2012 20:20
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For the fournival thing the guy just disappears when you get in, you don't have to talk to anyone.
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Jun 18, 2012 20:27
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This might sound retarded but how do you perfect block? I'm guessing it's like in dark souls where you block the instant they are hitting you, but so far I've been doing that and it's not been working.
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Jun 18, 2012 20:28
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Mr Asshat posted:So why did the game go from being kind of hard to super easy once i started playing as a warrior, i went from having 3 fierce pawns to having one pawn with nothing but buff spells and i have been forced to remove most of my armour to make the game at least a bit challenging. Lotish posted:I seem to recall he mostly just gets new weapons with the idols, and unlocks new armor based on your story progress.
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Jun 18, 2012 20:28
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Despite hating escort missions, I took on Mercedes' escort quest to, you know, get in good with her because she has a nice accent and all that. I manage to try and take the direct, as the crow flies route to her quest location while (in hindsight) being totally underleveled for it. She ignobly dies somewhere offscreen and I wind up using a Ferrystone to get the hell back to Gran Soren. So, licking my wounds, I decide to try and wrap up the Troublesome Tome quest. Steffen creeped me out, so I decide to try out the forgery system. I hand him over the forged tome, and complete the quest, easy peasy. Like an idiot though, I try and use the real tome, assuming it'd just give my Pawns better tactics or whatever, and send a mass of Bolide meteors slamming down into the town square. I get arrested immediately, and the game autosaves with my location change, so my fuckup is locked in permanently. I don't think I'm turning out to be the legendary hero everyone was expecting 
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Jun 18, 2012 20:40
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Please tell me you evicted the family too 
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Jun 18, 2012 20:43
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I tried switching my Strider Arisen to an Assassin and am not seeing the benefits at all. How can they become a good class, I have no interest in travelling at night and their augments look lovely. What are their good skills I should be looking at getting?
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Jun 18, 2012 20:44
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pipes! posted:Despite hating escort missions, I took on Mercedes' escort quest to, you know, get in good with her because she has a nice accent and all that. I manage to try and take the direct, as the crow flies route to her quest location while (in hindsight) being totally underleveled for it. She ignobly dies somewhere offscreen and I wind up using a Ferrystone to get the hell back to Gran Soren.
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Jun 18, 2012 20:53
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AngryBooch posted:I tried switching my Strider Arisen to an Assassin and am not seeing the benefits at all. How can they become a good class, I have no interest in travelling at night and their augments look lovely. What are their good skills I should be looking at getting? They gain a lot of Strength when they level, so you can do a huge amount of sword damage. Intimate Gambit does good damage, stuns an enemy, and brings it towards you so you can follow up with some more strikes, or another Intimate Gambit. Gouge, which you don't get until level 7 or something deals huge damage against climbable monsters, and Dire Gouge at level 9 deals even more. I don't really use most of the night Augments, but I tear poo poo up with a sword and bow.
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Jun 18, 2012 20:54
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Big Bidness posted:They gain a lot of Strength when they level, so you can do a huge amount of sword damage. Intimate Gambit does good damage, stuns an enemy, and brings it towards you so you can follow up with some more strikes, or another Intimate Gambit. Also, for (late-game monsters) wyrms and drakes, I found that you can climb on top of their neck and dire gouge through it to hit their heart  (At least with an Ascalon).
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Jun 18, 2012 20:59
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notZaar posted:Please tell me you evicted the family too I wasn't paying attention and was mashing confirm to get to the shop and accepted the quest  I am not the hero Gran Soren deserves, or the one it needs, apparently.
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Jun 18, 2012 21:02
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gibbed posted:Also, for (late-game monsters) wyrms and drakes, I found that you can climb on top of their neck and dire gouge through it to hit their heart This is the reason I was level 80 when I cleared the post game the first time. Assassin was the best/worst class to pick to use as my first run through.
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Jun 18, 2012 21:04
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I know its not worth it, but sometimes I give my back-up pawns better gear, and usually give out pretty solid parting gifts. It makes me sad when I get my buddy back and all he got for his efforts of fighting beasts is some old rotten meat  .
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Jun 18, 2012 21:22
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I keep meaning to give better outfits to my pawns, but frankly everyone already has access to better stuff than me.
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Jun 18, 2012 21:30
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likecnsnnts posted:
And that's why my pawn is the best Ranger in the game. Here's some sweet battle screens.  Punkass bitch dragon charging at me while I was aiming at his heart because I forgot to bring the fucks I was about to give back at the cottage.  And right here is the dragon slaying shot that is going to turn his rear end to dust.  Lastly, this is the reason why Assassin is the best class. I counter an attack and everyone goes flying like little bitches.
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Jun 18, 2012 21:43
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Mercedes posted:And that's why my pawn is the best Ranger in the game. Spent an awful lot of time grappling Gorechimeras and punching them with me I think that's a problem with pawn A.I. in general, though. I've seen sorcerers just go nuts and start climbing things with no reason whatsoever.
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Jun 18, 2012 21:52
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Mercedes posted:And that's why my pawn is the best Ranger in the game. My only complaint is that if I give her any stamina consumables, she will Gamble Shot EVERYTHING and immediately pop one. A GOBLIN? GAMBLE SHOT! *huff puff* *Harspud Juice* Not this way. HARPIES! GAMBLE SHOT! *huff puff* *Harspud Juice* A tent!  I can't tell if this is awesome or wasteful. Also she talks a lot edit: vvvv I never thought to use it on the Dragon... considering a lot of the first half of the fight is scripted, if it's even going to work, it has to come late into the fight, yes? likecnsnnts fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jun 18, 2012 |
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Jun 18, 2012 22:12
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I hope this 300,000 dollar arrow lives up to its name and kills everything because I'm saving it for the rear end in a top hat dragon who stole my heart.
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