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DrBouvenstein posted:And unrelated, but how come I can only get the 16 GB SIII on Amazon?
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bull3964 posted:You already can. No one really bothers to put any in for certification though. I don't know well it works in practice, but yeah, at least it exists. Thing is, there's not much of a market for unbranded CDMA phones in the US, and I'd guess that when Sprint commissions branded-CDMA devices they're not really interested in pursuing the certification. The real prerequisites here are VoLTE on Verizon and LTE basebands that support a non-trivial number of LTE bands. Once that happens then the only limitation will be licensing/certification, so we'll see how it shakes out. Edit: Also, "using unbranded devices" isn't the same thing as "using devices that are unbranded, but otherwise specifically certified for use on Verizon's network."
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Jul 10, 2012 21:03
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ThermoPhysical posted:I think the problem for me (in Omaha at least) is GSM is pretty much non-existent here. T-Mobile doesn't work and AT&T is also awful. Also Sprint's the only unlimited carrier. If T-Mobile worked up here, I would switch to them in a heartbeat. They were the first carrier I ever had (this was like 10 years ago), and their CS was loving amazing. 24-hr service with knowledgeable operators. Move up here, get loving Alltel because my entire family had it. Alltel gets bought by VZW and by that time Verizon had earned a reputation in my book, that being "Comcast Mobile." AT&T can eat a trashbag full o' dicks and T-Mo isn't really extant up here. That leaves a choice between So Sprint it is. As much as I'd like to see an unlimited data GSM carrier, the situation w.r.t comms infrastructure in this country has effectively guaranteed that there will never be another ISP or mobile carrier.
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Jul 10, 2012 21:05
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ExcessBLarg! posted:You mean Verizon's Open Development initiative? Yeah, that's what I was referring to. It apparently works well enough, I think a lot of embedded stuff goes through the program. Only one phone I know of ever went through (and the name of it escapes me at the moment.) I don't know of any reason why a big phone manufacturer couldn't use this to get a phone on Verizon's network and otherwise keep it clear from their influence other than the lack of market for unsubsidized devices.
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Jul 10, 2012 21:14
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bull3964 posted:I don't know of any reason why a big phone manufacturer couldn't use this to get a phone on Verizon's network and otherwise keep it clear from their influence other than the lack of market for unsubsidized devices. I guess my point is, there's huge value in consumers being able to take technologically-compatible devices to the Verizon (or Sprint, or whomever's) network without the manufacture having to seek certification that explicitly blesses the device for that purpose. Because some number of folks will want to do the former, nobody will do the latter.
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Jul 10, 2012 21:24
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They don't have to ONLY work on Verizon now though. My Razr will work perfectly fine on T-Mobile and AT&T if the right software is loaded on it. It's a global device as well as being a CDMA device.
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Jul 10, 2012 21:54
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Do you disagree that there's value in consumers being able to take a technologically-compatible device to Verizon and use it on their future VoLTE service, with nothing more than a SIM swap? Do you disagree that there's value in consumers being able to take a technologically-compatible device to any carrier--even those that don't have Open Development programs--to use on their future VoLTE service, with nothing more than a SIM swap? It's great that Verizon has an Open Development program. But there will always be phones that are technologically-compatible with Verizon's future service that won't be certified through it, because the manufacture won't care or is otherwise forbidden from it by producing a branded-device under contract for another carrier.
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Jul 10, 2012 22:00
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I'm not disagreeing, I'm just not seeing how the 700 MHz open-access requirements are going to change one drat thing. It's already technologically possible for someone to build ONE handset that will work on all 4 of the major carriers, but the only one who has done so is Apple and even they only doing it out of manufacturing convenience rather than portability. It's all moot anyways. Two things have to happen for the 700 mhz open-access requirement to make any difference. 1) VoLTE has to be in wide enough deployment for any network you want to use this handset on since it can't fall back to legacy networks for voice. 2) Frequencies have to be compatible. Both of those are large enough obstacles to basically make this a pipe dream.
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Jul 10, 2012 22:15
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bull3964 posted:I'm not disagreeing, I'm just not seeing how the 700 MHz open-access requirements are going to change one drat thing. Thus, the only barrier to consumers taking a device from AT&T to Verizon, or Sprint, or whatever, is going to be whether the carrier is willing to light up that device. That's the benefit of the 700 MHz open access provision, if only it could apply to more than the 700 MHz band. The problem with an opt-in certification process is that manufacturers making carrier-branded devices simply won't do it. bull3964 posted:2) Frequencies have to be compatible. FierceWireless posted:In its filing, Qualcomm said it has accelerated development of its next generation RF chip, the WTR1605L, which it said will support a total of seven frequency bands--three below 1 GHz, three higher bands, and one very high band (such as 2.5 GHz). bull3964 posted:1) VoLTE has to be in wide enough deployment for any network you want to use this handset on since it can't fall back to legacy networks for voice. The "pipedream" is whether the 700 MHz Open Access requirements will be honored.
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AT&T is on the LTE bandwagon, but their commitment is...lacking. So far, AT&T has ONLY committed to giving LTE to current HSPA+ areas. They have never given indication that their plan is to completely replace their GSM network with LTE. There are still MANY places on AT&T where you are punted down to EDGE. I'm just not seeing an LTE only phone as being completely viable on AT&Ts network in the next 5-10 years, nor do I see it being viable on T-Mobile either. Actually, I could almost see Sprint and T-Mobile merging in the next 10 years and that will likely put off complete network conversions for their footprints by a few years.
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Jul 10, 2012 23:44
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ExcessBLarg! posted:AFAIK you can only get the 32 GB model online or through telesales, right now at least. I'm not aware of them being in stores either. Actually, the only people I know who have them preordered them, and they came quite late. But Amazon IS online...  I know what you mean.
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Jul 10, 2012 23:45
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:EVO trip report: Keep us posted on how the custom ROM's work out on this phone as it is the biggest thing keeping me from just buying a nexus. My mom and brother have the EVO4GLTE and its pretty darn nice from the hardware perspective, particularly when you compare it side-by-side with the GNEX.
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Jul 11, 2012 00:02
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DrBouvenstein posted:GSM coverage where I live is ok, but Verizon's is the best by a mile...though I'm on Sprint, so...whoops!
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Jul 11, 2012 00:52
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DrBouvenstein posted:But Amazon IS online... If you want the 32GB let me know, last I checked its back ordered but I have access to sprints business portal, which gets handsets first availability wise. I ll
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Duckman2008 posted:If you want the 32GB let me know, last I checked its back ordered but I have access to sprints business portal, which gets handsets first availability wise. I ll How much does a used Galaxy Nexus go for? I'm thinking of nabbing one for my birthday or something.
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Jul 11, 2012 01:26
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I'm planning on dropping from my parents plan (well they're kicking me off) in the next few weeks and we've been month-to-month with Sprint for the past 4 years or so. What are the chances of me convincing Sprint to match what I would be paying by hopping on a family plan with my friends that are on AT&T?
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Jul 11, 2012 02:21
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William Munny posted:I'm planning on dropping from my parents plan (well they're kicking me off) in the next few weeks and we've been month-to-month with Sprint for the past 4 years or so. What are the chances of me convincing Sprint to match what I would be paying by hopping on a family plan with my friends that are on AT&T? Phone companies don't price match, they just talk about what features you get and why their plan is better. What are you looking for, I could tell you what you would get? But yeah, especially if you want data don't expect sprint to discount anything more than what normal people get. That gravy train is long gone. And a used GNex goes for like, $250 to $300, $350 at the most.
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Jul 11, 2012 02:24
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Looks like Jelly Bean is officially out, which means that the Evo3D, last year's flagship phone for Sprint, is now two major versions behind. I never expected an update, but this is pretty funny.
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Jul 11, 2012 03:38
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Duckman2008 posted:Phone companies don't price match, they just talk about what features you get and why their plan is better. What are you looking for, I could tell you what you would get? But yeah, especially if you want data don't expect sprint to discount anything more than what normal people get. That gravy train is long gone. I'm planning on getting an iPhone4s. With the lowest # of minutes on ATT+data+texting, split 3 ways it would come to 62 a month. From what I can tell with sprint I'm looking at a min. of $80 a month for a comparable plan if I were to go solo with them.
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mastershakeman posted:Looks like Jelly Bean is officially out, which means that the Evo3D, last year's flagship phone for Sprint, is now two major versions behind. I never expected an update, but this is pretty funny. Speaking of which, I'm tired of waiting, so I finally got around to rooting my Evo 3D and flashing Meanrom ICS the other day. I used this guide for newbies which was infinitely more helpful than anything I found at xda. Now I'm only one version out-of-date!  Does anyone here have any other recommendations for a good stable ROM?
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William Munny posted:I'm planning on getting an iPhone4s. With the lowest # of minutes on ATT+data+texting, split 3 ways it would come to 62 a month. From what I can tell with sprint I'm looking at a min. of $80 a month for a comparable plan if I were to go solo with them. Oh, we'll yeah, a 3 line shared plan split evenly will always be cheaper than an individual plan. You could just pay the same split staying with your parents plan, otherwise yeah, no telecom company would match that. A sprint company discount of 23% can get you to about $65 plus tax, so if you work for a hospital or UPS or something you could get close.
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I had just broke down waiting for ICS and was going to look for a root & rom solution on the GSII Epic 4G Touch when Google pointed me at this article which has a supposed Sprint screen grab stating it will be released starting this Thursday, 7/12. Guess I can wait a couple more days to see if that pans out or not.
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Encor3 posted:I had just broke down waiting for ICS and was going to look for a root & rom solution on the GSII Epic 4G Touch when Google pointed me at this article which has a supposed Sprint screen grab stating it will be released starting this Thursday, 7/12. Hey remember that time Sprint rolled out an update on time? Yeah me neither.
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Jul 11, 2012 05:05
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I'm sick of my Evo3D, even with running MeanROM ICS on it. Is Sprint still giving people the option to "buy out" their contract to get their upgrade pricing? I really want a Galaxy Nexus.
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Jul 11, 2012 07:27
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I bought my evo3d and signed a 2 year contract right when it came out and my ETF is only about 100 bucks now. I'd just buy the contract out and move carriers/get a gnex (which is exactly what I'm doing).
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Jul 11, 2012 10:47
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The Entire Universe posted:Hey remember that time Sprint rolled out an update on time? The EVO 4G got 2.2 pretty drat quick.
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Smeed posted:I bought my evo3d and signed a 2 year contract right when it came out and my ETF is only about 100 bucks now. I'd just buy the contract out and move carriers/get a gnex (which is exactly what I'm doing). As much as I would love to switch carriers, my wife and best friend are also on my account. We all got Evo3D's when they came out. Neither of them are especially "techie", so they are fine with their phones, and still in contract for a little under a year. Also, my wife wants to go back to an iPhone eventually, and at this point Sprint is the only one offering it with unlimited Data. I am aggravated by Sprint/HTC basically ignoring my phone, and carrier/manufacturer fragmentation on non Nexus Androids. Because of CDMA, they still manage to hold up updates to the Nexus phones for a while. I'd love to switch to tmobile's pay as you go, and buy the Nexus Galaxy from the Google Play Store. That said, we are getting a pretty decent deal with sprint, at about $150 per month after my company discount for 3 lines, and then my job pays me a stipend that covers more than my 1/3 of the bill. I guess another question would be if there is anywhere reputable to buy an out of contract Galaxy Nexus (new or like new), for less than what Sprint asks for it ($550). Used ones seem to go for right at $400, Sprint sells them for $150 after contract, and Google can afford to sell the non CDMA version for $400. There has to be a break somewhere on the CDMA version.
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Google can only sell them that cheap because they make money through the app store.
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Encor3 posted:I had just broke down waiting for ICS and was going to look for a root & rom solution on the GSII Epic 4G Touch when Google pointed me at this article which has a supposed Sprint screen grab stating it will be released starting this Thursday, 7/12. Even better news is that with kernel sources available, the E4GT can now be a candidate as an official CM9 device. Edit: "Suck it HTC"?
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7 Bowls of Wrath posted:Keep us posted on how the custom ROM's work out on this phone as it is the biggest thing keeping me from just buying a nexus. My mom and brother have the EVO4GLTE and its pretty darn nice from the hardware perspective, particularly when you compare it side-by-side with the GNEX. The hardware on the EVO4GT is pretty amazing, and it's why I picked the phone despite the non-removable battery and the awful Sense skin. Sense 4 may be an improvement over the past Sense skins, but it's still Sense and it sucks a big one. It looks and feels like Gingerbread, and I have no idea why they did that. Rooting the EVO is really easy using this method - basically one click root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919 I'm running MeanROM ICS right now which does help fix some of the flaws in Sense, but it's still a Sense rom and while the multi-tasking is better than stock, it still feels like it kills off apps way too fast. With MeanROM, I clocked 5194 in Quadrant. Hopefully they get the source code soon because all the roms out now are basically touch-ups and not rewrites. I can't wait until there's a stock ICS rom or even a CM9 port. ICS is just so drat good, I can't understand all the fuckery that the phone manufacturers are doing. Sense 4 shits all over all the good parts of ICS and it boggles the loving mind. Have I really emphasized how awful Sense 4 is yet? Because god drat. If the Gnex wasn't so out-dated, it would've been a no brainer for me. The Shep fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:If the Gnex wasn't so out-dated, it would've been a no brainer for me. Pretty much this. Thanks for the info. Well, I've still got a month or so to switch over so I'm in no rush. My OG EVO is still chugging along with CM7. Data speeds are very bad out here though and it seems to have gotten worse over the last few months (Wash DC area).
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AndroidPolice is reporting an Evo LTE update today to fix several known issues http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...f-other-things/ Changelog: quote:This update addresses:
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How much does it cost to get the Nexus S 4G's vibration motor to be fixed? Or should I just go to Sprint and see if they'll replace the phone for $37?
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Duckman2008 posted:Phone companies don't price match, they just talk about what features you get and why their plan is better. What are you looking for, I could tell you what you would get? But yeah, especially if you want data don't expect sprint to discount anything more than what normal people get. That gravy train is long gone. So pretty much I shouldn't waste my time calling Retentions and just switch carriers? I was briefly toying with the idea of seeing if I could get a discount out of them to stick around and grab a SGIII or Evo LTE over the Nexus because of the better cameras. If not, I'll just eat the poo poo camera of the Nexus and bail to a prepaid carrier.
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JAF07 posted:So pretty much I shouldn't waste my time calling Retentions and just switch carriers? I was briefly toying with the idea of seeing if I could get a discount out of them to stick around and grab a SGIII or Evo LTE over the Nexus because of the better cameras. If not, I'll just eat the poo poo camera of the Nexus and bail to a prepaid carrier. Personal opinion, but I wouldn't decide a phone plan based just on camera. And yeah, pretty spot on. Sprint used to give away the house to anyone who asked, but as a result of so many people asking they won't give away anything. Nothing wrong with prepaid, straight Talk will always be cheaper than sprint.
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Duckman2008 posted:Personal opinion, but I wouldn't decide a phone plan based just on camera. I really wasn't--I'd only consider getting the Evo or SGIII if Sprint cut me some sort of deal, and even then that was iffy. My market probably won't see Sprint LTE until 2014, so it's really not worth it to pay the extra money for Sprint when I rarely come close to using 2GB of data a month. Nexus and prepaid it is!
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Kind of a dumb question, but I figured I'd ask anyway. My contract expires in October and I want to put my account on hold in February since I'll be overseas for approximately a year and won't be able to use a cell phone. Will Sprint be able to do this without me signing a new contract? Or will I have to sign on for another 2 years (and have to use my upgrade) and come back to the US with a year old phone? Sorry if the answer is obvious, I've just never had to deal with this while being out of contract.
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You can do that. Once your 2-year contract is up, you automatically go on a "month-to-mouth" plan (provided you don't buy a new, subsidized, phone.) So you could then cancel it in February no problem.
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It may be best if you port your number to Google voice. Then you can respond to voice mails and you won't have to worry about contracts or anything for the year you are away. Seasonal suspension doesn't go a whole year only military deployment can have a line suspended for that long so if you keep your line with Sprint you will pay full price for a portion of the year.
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Thanks for clarifying this for me guys. I probably should have mentioned that this:Giblet posted:...only military deployment can have a line suspended for that long...
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