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goldjas posted:So question about 3 things I can't figure out, 2 of which are in the confusion gate: 1) You need a Key Fairy to unlock the chest. It contains an item that cuts damage you take by half 2) There's some tablets in that same area of the confusion gate that appeared after you talked to the fairy. These, in a roundabout way, entail what you need to do. You must do this before you can get very far in the Chamber of Birth. 3) The thing about two shops is talking about the two brothers, I believe. Buy a bunch of weights from the shop that sold you the helmet and you'll unlock the other shop. It sells an item that will help you in the Ruins of the Mother. 4) Grab the Bombs from the Graveyard if you don't have them yet. Then you can get another useful item in the Labyrinth which is required to do #2 above. edit: RaspberryCommie posted:So how do I reach that treasure in the Chamber of Birth that appeared when I used the Maternity Statue and the Dragon Skull? You need to break the blocks from the other side then make an extremely careful jump. DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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tooooooo bad posted:Though walking through all of the numbers has the same effect I'm not being held responsible for bad programming! 
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Jul 17, 2012 06:21
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RaspberryCommie posted:How am I supposed to hit Palengque? all of my shots bounce off of that gun thing he has in front. Subweapons! Or if you want to know exactly what to do Stay above him and spam the rolling shurikens onto his head. He goes down really quick. Bit of a pushover really. As for not getting hit I'm not quite sure, I never found it to be an issue.
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Jul 17, 2012 06:22
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Palenque in this game seems to be (over?)compensation for him being a total cheap bastard in the original.
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Jul 17, 2012 06:27
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Yeah. I ended up using flares and spears. I remember him being easy as hell in the original game, but this time I had a lot of fun.
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Jul 17, 2012 06:30
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SourceElement posted:1) You need a Key Fairy to unlock the chest. It contains an item that cuts damage you take by half How does one get a key fairy? Also I never saw a treasure box or anything in that room, or does the magic just happen if i get the fairy in there?
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Jul 17, 2012 06:30
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goldjas posted:How does one get a key fairy? Also I never saw a treasure box or anything in that room, or does the magic just happen if i get the fairy in there? Pure, random chance. Or Miracle.exe + Mekuri.exe loaded at the same time guarantees you get one every time.
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Jul 17, 2012 06:33
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goldjas posted:How does one get a key fairy? Also I never saw a treasure box or anything in that room, or does the magic just happen if i get the fairy in there? You need to reveal the chest first by placing a weight on the pedestal underneath the grail point, which must be revealed by attacking the fairy block there from the right side (from the lift).
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Jul 17, 2012 06:34
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quote:Palenque talk You guys really should give the Chakrams a try. They do ridiculous amounts of damage to everything, but Palenque in particular just melts when hit by them. Though that doesn't even compare to how easy he was pre-patch on Wiiware (this doesn't work anymore).
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Jul 17, 2012 06:43
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I have conquered the Hell Temple. Your traps are nothing to me. Pretty sure thats not supposed to happen. I have to say this hell temple is a lot more friendly that the previous one. I encourage everyone to get the forbidden treasure it hides.
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Jul 17, 2012 06:44
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Does anyone know how to make the Big Mud Man spawn?  The Dance of Life in the appropriate room did nothing! edit: Ahaha, this game bugs out in the best ways. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UhUElGGjEM DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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Jul 17, 2012 06:49
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SourceElement posted:edit: Ahaha, this game bugs out in the best ways. I've been trapped in the wall/floor quite a few times, but it always semi-teleports me out. Actually got pushed through the floor into another screen in the Twin Labyrinths which makes me wonder if you can cheese any of the game doing something like that.
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Jul 17, 2012 07:19
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SourceElement posted:Pure, random chance. Or Miracle.exe + Mekuri.exe loaded at the same time guarantees you get one every time. Where do you get Miracle.exe ?
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Jul 17, 2012 07:21
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goldjas posted:Where do you get Miracle.exe ? Tower of the Goddess. It's in a shop. Also, on the topic of bugs, the same thing happened to me that was in SourceElement's video and once, when I unpaused, was still in the looking at my laptop. I'd just glide around, hitting things with my invisible weapons all the while using my laptop. That did make it so I couldn't pause or use the grail, but entering a door solved the issue. Huzzah! fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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Jul 17, 2012 07:27
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goldjas posted:Where do you get Miracle.exe ? Gotta have the item I mentioned that was in the Twin Labyrinths and use it in the Tower of the Goddess, to place a weight on the pedestal before that large bell drops on it. You're at the point in the game where you absolutely need bombs to continue. So grab those if you haven't gotten 'em already and chuck 'em at the only suspicious wall in the only room in the Twin Labyrinths that has a block puzzle. I've also reached a point where I can't progress anymore without killing the Big Mud Man in that room I asked about above. I tried loading another save file and doing the dance again, but he still didn't appear. DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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Jul 17, 2012 07:28
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You're supposed to dance in another room. Go down instead of right where the moving block is.
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Jul 17, 2012 07:36
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Klaus Kinski posted:You're supposed to dance in another room. Go down instead of right where the moving block is. I danced down there, though. In the room with the Goddess of Beauty, where the tablet says to dance?
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Jul 17, 2012 07:38
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If you did, he should spawn when you go into the room.
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Jul 17, 2012 07:40
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SourceElement posted:I danced down there, though. In the room with the Goddess of Beauty, where the tablet says to dance? Did you activate both Flywheel areas near the Chamber of Birth Grail Point?
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Jul 17, 2012 07:45
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RaspberryCommie posted:Did you activate both Flywheel areas near the Chamber of Birth Grail Point? Indeed I did. The one on the wall and the other behind the moving statue, right? As far as I can tell, I'm doing everything correct, the big guy just isn't spawning.
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Jul 17, 2012 07:52
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So, in the Twin Labyrinths there's a little platform identical to the little floating ones that's sitting uselessly on the ground in the room one east of the poison gas room - Muburk earlier said something like 'falling from a great height' will kickstart a broken platform, but I've tried jumping up to the ceiling and falling like six times and nothing's happened. Considering I can't leave the room without grailing back to the Temple of the Sun every time I try unless I can get this thing working, because the other flying platform is just out of reach, this is getting really old really fast - am I doing the right thing here or am I supposed to do something else?
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Jul 17, 2012 07:53
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Wolpertinger posted:So, in the Twin Labyrinths there's a little platform identical to the little floating ones that's sitting uselessly on the ground - Muburk earlier said something like 'falling from a great height' will kickstart a broken platform, but I've tried jumping up to the ceiling and falling like six times and nothing's happened - considering i can't leave the room without grailing back to the Temple of the Sun every time I try unless I can get this thing working, this is getting really old really fast - am I doing the right thing here or am I supposed to do something else? You need to go to the room above that area and fall on it from there.
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Jul 17, 2012 07:54
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RaspberryCommie posted:You need to go to the room above that area and fall on it from there. Are we talking about the same room? this one seems to have nothing above it. I've seen something similar in the room with the Poseidon statue and that had an open ceiling, but this is a different one. edit: it's this one : http://lamulana.super-turbo.net/wiki/index.php5?title=Image:Ww7_E1.jpg - the one on the right is off for me Wolpertinger fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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Jul 17, 2012 07:56
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Wolpertinger posted:Are we talking about the same room? this one seems to have nothing above it. I've seen something similar in the room with the Poseidon statue and that had an open ceiling, but this is a different one. e: nevermind thinking of the wrong puzzle. e2: Go left two rooms from the Temple entrance. Control Volume fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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Jul 17, 2012 08:03
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Control Volume posted:e: nevermind thinking of the wrong puzzle. Ah, that worked.. such an odd puzzle - you don't even need it active to go back and forth, all it does is make it really annoying if you accidentally fall.
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I believe I just figured out my issue. When you pick up the Cog of Souls or whatever a little tablet appears with a fitting mark on it. I never "activated" that tablet with the item, so the mud men never spawned. ...yep! The Big Mud Man That Runs just spawned after I "activated" the item in the Confusion Gate.
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Jul 17, 2012 08:25
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Oh god, Viy just murders me. I just can't survive long enough and I have 250 health. Due to how the fight proceeds, it's just this short battle of attrition unless you get hit really hard. Attacking him with any weapon means taking a hit in return. How much do subweapons do? I've been using rolling shurikens in the little window after his eyelid opens but I've no idea how effective they are.
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Argas posted:Oh god, Viy just murders me. Take out your weapon of choice, hang out near where his eyeball pops up with a shield out, and attack as fast as possible. I could get about 6 axe hits doing this, and then it's just a matter of patience until you get can a platform that hasn't been destroyed next to his eye again to repeat the process.
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edit nevermind, think I understand
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Jul 17, 2012 09:57
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Control Volume posted:Take out your weapon of choice, hang out near where his eyeball pops up with a shield out, and attack as fast as possible. I could get about 6 axe hits doing this, and then it's just a matter of patience until you get can a platform that hasn't been destroyed next to his eye again to repeat the process. This really helped a ton. Lots of failed attempts, and then a run where I won had him give me three big openings without a destroyed platform. Got trapped under a platform at one point so it was much closer than it should've been but drat.
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An hour in and this game is already making me feel like the smartest and dumbest guy at the same time. I'm still romping through the first area of the ruins, although I have popped into others as well. I just recently got the Holy Grail but now I kinda feel stuck and I sort of just want to know how I should be approaching this game. I never played the original La-Mulana so I'm still getting used to how I should think about this game. Two specific problems.  This place. I know what I should do but I think the execution is the problem. Spoilered just in case this is the right answer. Push the blocks onto that pressure plate at the bottom right, right? Or should I just push one? My problem is that if I push a block down it just falls NEXT to the pressure plate but not on it, and I don't think I can pull. So should I be using the two blocks on the lower level to do a kind of staggered pile which would allow me to push the last block onto the plate? Or holy poo poo if I just stack the two blocks will the last block's inertia from the second level just carry it onto the plate by itself? EDIT:It did god drat I love this game  OK this I am still stuck on. I mostly want to know if I should be able to get into the central area where the two open chests and one stone tablet are, of if this is something I'll have to come back to later with an item?
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Der Shovel posted:An hour in and this game is already making me feel like the smartest and dumbest guy at the same time. I'm still romping through the first area of the ruins, although I have popped into others as well. I just recently got the Holy Grail but now I kinda feel stuck and I sort of just want to know how I should be approaching this game. I never played the original La-Mulana so I'm still getting used to how I should think about this game. Come back to that one later.
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After Shu http://i.imgur.com/vDVen.jpg I was just marveling at the lady ghosts I just saved, come on La-Mulana (I don't remember this from the original)
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The lack of an OSX version of this game makes me cry.  Has anyone figured out how to make it work?
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Jul 17, 2012 11:34
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The Shu trap was hilarious and I laughed so hard even though I had to do it all over again.
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Antinumeric posted:The Shu trap was hilarious and I laughed so hard even though I had to do it all over again. That happened to me even though I was explicitly staring and waiting I tried to run instead of using the grail, that was my mistake I love all the instant death traps because they're always so visible from the get go, meaning that you kinda 'should' expect it, but don't because 'oh it's just a background element' (it's also never 'just' a background element) So spoilers about 'the last normal boss' Tiamat, so I went into this fight expecting to be able to use two clips of ammo and just wrecking her, and the game threw me for a loop and made me use bombs and axes, and killed me three times. That was an impressively satisfying boss though
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I cannot begin to describe how tired I am of seeing this specific room. Ninja comes out of nowhere and knocks you off a precarious platform? Flying bird shoots a laser at your back? Mis-thrown bomb blow you clear off the platform? Bad jump completely miss the tiny platform? Back to Land of Hell 2 with you! 15/35 in and I believe Hell Temple has beaten me. 
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Shanty posted:Come back to that one later. OK, roughly when should I be pushing into the adjacent areas from the entrance? It feels like I can't do much anywhere, but I realize it may be in large thanks to me not getting what I should be doing yet.
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I've come across some fairly weird things that don't seem to (at least clearly) belong to any puzzle I've found. Anyone have a clue what these are about? In the Twin Labyrinths, a transparent version of the shield-and-axe enemy spawned where only one normal version normally spawns. The transparent one didn't hurt me, and neither could I hit it in any way I found. Huh? I came to Inferno Cavern from the gate from Tower of Ruin. The first time I used the gate, an elevator with a pedestal rose up in the background - I was too far to get to it before it rose out of the screen, and haven't seen it since. Maybe it only spawns on the first time you enter the room..?
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Well, I finally beat the game I'm a bit upset mother wasn't a puzzle boss anymore, it was just a "yup do a lot of killin', but the immediate "time bomb set get out fast" made up for it. also in the credits under special thanks, madamluna and deceased crab were both there, how polite of nigoro time to go to hell
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