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Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

Ariza posted:

I looked through settings and the last few pages and didn't see an answer (I am easily confused though), but how do I stop Firefox from reloading a tab when I click on it? It drives me completely insane and is not what I want it to do.

If you're talking about what happens when you restore a session, it's not reloading tabs when you click them. It's opening them for the first time. This means Firefox doesn't bring your computer to its knees when you open it up, and it tries to restore every single tab you had open in the last session at once.

To go back to the old behavior, go to Options-Tabs, and uncheck "Don't load tabs until selected."

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Gondus
Mar 31, 2011

Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Memory Leaks are bad even on the 32-bit version. Something is wrong when your browser is using up to 3 gigs of memory.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

Gondus posted:

Something is wrong when your browser is using up to 3 gigs of memory.

Would you rather that programs not use available memory?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
Using 3 gigs is highly problematic for a 32 bit program due to per-application address space limitations.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

Toast Museum posted:

Would you rather that programs not use available memory?

There's a difference between using memory productively, and just chewing it up for no purpose other than "our garbage collection isn't very good."

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

Gondus posted:

Memory Leaks are bad even on the 32-bit version. Something is wrong when your browser is using up to 3 gigs of memory.

Cool your extensions are broken

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Alereon posted:

That setting doesn't seem to do anything anymore, I was still being served HTML5 video, and Google results seemed to indicate that was common/normal.

That's odd, it definitely switches back and forth for me when I enroll/unenroll.

It marks whether you're enrolled or not using a cookie, so you could try clearing any cookies you have from Google and Youtube.

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

I wish there was an easy way to file enhancement requests instead of needing to use their terrible and confusing bugzilla. I just want an image resizing algorithm that doesn't look like poo poo :(

edit: oh hey there's a bug on this from 2009 lemme check it o
https://bug486918.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=603167 :nws:
:stare:
how did they let this get into the bugzilla

I'm at work, what's behind the link?

unruly
May 12, 2002

YES!!!

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

I'm at work, what's behind the link?
A terror of unimaginable depths. (Animeu porn)

Peanut and the Gang
Aug 24, 2009

by exmarx

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

I wish there was an easy way to file enhancement requests instead of needing to use their terrible and confusing bugzilla. I just want an image resizing algorithm that doesn't look like poo poo :(

edit: oh hey there's a bug on this from 2009 lemme check it o
https://bug486918.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=603167 :nws:
:stare:
how did they let this get into the bugzilla

A few months ago I was doing research on which resize algorithms each browser uses so I could make an image that looks fine in one browser but displays as goatse in another, and I stumbled on that bug. And it made me chuckle heeheehee that the dude picked that image for the description, like it was some regular old thing. "Hey dude, found this firefox bug. Thought you guys could fix it so I can enjoy my anime porn without all this aliasing"

Apok
Jul 22, 2005
I have a title now!

Sudo Echo posted:

This has been happening with all the latest driver versions, I'm on a 560Ti and 301.42.

I should probably reset my profile but then I lose everything, this is the same profile I've been using since FF 4. The install folder is still Mozilla Firefox 4.0 Beta 7.

Flash is also hosed, if I scroll past an embedded video it doesn't seem to refresh the video element properly or something and this happens:



There's a Flash fix that developers can add to their code.

<iframe width="560" height="315" wmode="opaque" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/OL8W4VT6Cp8?wmode=opaque&rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The error is due to Flash embeds being the highest z-index possible. The fix puts the video inside of the containing element.

Apok fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Aug 3, 2012

jink
May 8, 2002

Drop it like it's Hot.
Taco Defender

Apok posted:

There's a Flash fix that developers can add to their code.

<iframe width="560" height="315" wmode="opaque" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/OL8W4VT6Cp8?wmode=opaque&rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The error is due to Flash embeds being the highest z-index possible. The fix puts the video inside of the containing element.

That also destroys performance with many operations in flash. It's a tradeoff. :(

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



I've got two problems.

1. Firefox hangs up constantly. Like 5-6 times a day.

2. When I restart firefox, the first tab doesn't display in the tab line.

Err, let me illustrate:


There should be a tab there. But there isn't. If I open a new tab from the same window, it will appear in the marked space, but I won't be able to go to the previous tab without closing it.

Help>

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Xander77 posted:

2. When I restart firefox, the first tab doesn't display in the tab line.

Err, let me illustrate:


There should be a tab there. But there isn't. If I open a new tab from the same window, it will appear in the marked space, but I won't be able to go to the previous tab without closing it.

Help>

Go to Tools > Options > Tabs there is a checkbox labeled "always show tab bar.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



syscall girl posted:

Go to Tools > Options > Tabs there is a checkbox labeled "always show tab bar.
It was already checked. Do I uncheck it?

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Xander77 posted:

It was already checked. Do I uncheck it?

Only if you want to not always show the tab bar.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Anyone just had Gmail stop working on Firefox? If I try to load it I get a message about a redirect never completing.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



withak posted:

Only if you want to not always show the tab bar.
My point is that turning that thing on and off didn't really help :/

Im_Special
Jan 2, 2011

Look At This!!! WOW!
It's F*cking Nothing.
So this has been bugging me for a while now and I just want to know if this is normal or did something not uninstall/install correctly and I have 2 running or whatever.

When I watch a flash video like from youtube, in my task manager it shows flash player running x2 is this normal?



Also I'm on Windows 7 64bit so shouldn't flash be 64 bit as well or is that normal too?

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

Im_Special posted:

So this has been bugging me for a while now and I just want to know if this is normal or did something not uninstall/install correctly and I have 2 running or whatever.

When I watch a flash video like from youtube, in my task manager it shows flash player running x2 is this normal?



Also I'm on Windows 7 64bit so shouldn't flash be 64 bit as well or is that normal too?

That's normal; it's a result of the sandboxed Flash player.

Firefox and Flash should both be 32 bit unless you've got some weird stuff going on. Firefox's 32-bit code, especially the Javascript interpreter, is optimized like crazy. The 64-bit version hasn't had nearly the same amount of work. Since you're running a 32-bit browser, you need 32-bit plugins, too.

Ryokurin
Jul 14, 2001

Wanna Die?

Im_Special posted:

So this has been bugging me for a while now and I just want to know if this is normal or did something not uninstall/install correctly and I have 2 running or whatever.

When I watch a flash video like from youtube, in my task manager it shows flash player running x2 is this normal?



Also I'm on Windows 7 64bit so shouldn't flash be 64 bit as well or is that normal too?

Two instances is a biproduct of protected mode. It's kind of similar to how Chrome will show a instance for every tab. And flash would remain 32-bit unless you change to a 64-bit version of Firefox, or IE. In Firefox's case its still is developmental. Don't worry about either, it's all normal.

edit: crap. Sorry for the repeat info!

Im_Special
Jan 2, 2011

Look At This!!! WOW!
It's F*cking Nothing.
Thanks for clearing that up, I can rest a bit easier now.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Speaking of which, what's the reason for Mozilla still pretending that Firefox still can't do 64bit? I've been using the official 64bit nightlies since version 12, and they're been mostly rock stable from what I can tell. 64bit Flash also works fine.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Combat Pretzel posted:

Speaking of which, what's the reason for Mozilla still pretending that Firefox still can't do 64bit? I've been using the official 64bit nightlies since version 12, and they're been mostly rock stable from what I can tell. 64bit Flash also works fine.

There's no reason to make it 64-bit when it hasn't had the QA and the Javascript engine is quite a bit slower, like others have mentioned.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
I've seriously not experienced any issues from the Javascript engine being "slower". I can play this at full speed and that's as demanding as any Javascript application I've seen online: http://gamecenter.grantgalitz.org/

And 64 bit Flash has been WAY less buggy for me than 32 bit too.

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
I would be all for 64bit flash and letting Firefox hog up all my RAM, I have multiple GBs for reason. :haw: Really, I have 12GB of RAM for when I play games, but I spend so many hours a day just browsing the web with Firefox using up only 200 or 300MB. . . Also, the latest version of flash is soo loving buggy I am tempted to switch to 64bit just to see if that is a little more stable.

As for Javascript is that really a matter of 64bit makes it slow, or is it more the fact that 32bit is the more popular option browser so right and thus it is optimized better than 64bit?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Colonel Sanders posted:

I would be all for 64bit flash and letting Firefox hog up all my RAM, I have multiple GBs for reason. :haw: Really, I have 12GB of RAM for when I play games, but I spend so many hours a day just browsing the web with Firefox using up only 200 or 300MB. . . Also, the latest version of flash is soo loving buggy I am tempted to switch to 64bit just to see if that is a little more stable.

As for Javascript is that really a matter of 64bit makes it slow, or is it more the fact that 32bit is the more popular option browser so right and thus it is optimized better than 64bit?

I ran some "benchmarks" earlier and some stuff is slightly faster and some stuff is slightly slower in Javascript apparently. But the performance difference doesn't seem to matter at all on my machine. Like I said, that Game Boy Color emulator implemented entirely in Javascript runs fine for me even, and that's some pretty hefty workload for JS. And 64 bit Flash is a LOT less buggy in my experience, same with 64 bit Java.

This is the build I use: http://waterfoxproject.org/

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
Yeah there's nothing about 64-bit that makes it inherently slower (aside from code size), but there also isn't a reason to put effort into optimizing it when the ability to use more memory isn't desired right now. Mozilla is working directly with Adobe to resolve their Flash issues (which are all problems on the Adobe side), so hopefully things should be improving there soon. As a reminder, you can disable Protected Mode for Flash using the instructions I reposted on the last page. There is a security cost to doing this of course.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

I was reading about the upcoming planned "Australis" UI.

I'm not a guy that has a knee jerk negative response to UI changes. I've used Firefox as my primary browser since 0.8 and have basically liked all of their UI changes since then pretty much instantly. I loathe omnibars though and don't see how it's an improvement in any way over the current Awesome bar + configurable search bar.

One of Firefox's primary strengths is its ease of customization. It might be too early to say, but should it be possible to change the UI to have a separate search bar like in the current Firefox UI or Opera? I'd probably switch to Opera if it's not, but I prefer certain Firefox extensions and Opera"s compatibility can be kind of wonky on some sites.

Thauros fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Aug 4, 2012

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla
I can't remember what version I was on when I made the switch to Firefox a few months ago, but I don't think I've ever had a separate search bar.

Personally, I prefer having an omnibar where I can just use keywords for different search engines, so I don't have to use two different keyboard shortcuts for either entering a URL or a search.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
Someone will hack a separate search bar in, if it isn't just tucked away in the UI widget box, I'm sure.

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Chrome's omnibar is the only thing that I feel bad about leaving behind with firefox. Autolearning search engines on websites the first time I use them, and then I can do a search on that website from anywhere by just typing the first couple letters out and hitting tab. I wish there was an extension that did this - the omnibar extension is terrible.

Also the newtab page for firefox is really awful. Why would I want it to show the most recent stuff - I want it to list stuff I visit all the time, and not have stuff I just happened to load thrice in one session on there the next time I make a new tab.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Both of these are still a problem. Can anyone propose a different solution?

Xander77 posted:

1. Firefox hangs up constantly. Like 5-6 times a day.

2. When I restart firefox, the first tab doesn't display in the tab line.

Err, let me illustrate:


There should be a tab there. But there isn't. If I open a new tab from the same window, it will appear in the marked space, but I won't be able to go to the previous tab without closing it.

Pollyzoid
Nov 2, 2010

GRUUAGH you say?

Robolizard! posted:

Also the newtab page for firefox is really awful. Why would I want it to show the most recent stuff - I want it to list stuff I visit all the time, and not have stuff I just happened to load thrice in one session on there the next time I make a new tab.

You could do the same as I did, remove all the sites you don't want, pin the ones you do want and reorder however you want. It won't show any recent sites if all nine are pinned.

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

Xander77 posted:

Both of these are still a problem. Can anyone propose a different solution?
Have you done Reset Firefox (in about :support) or made a new profile?

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

Robolizard! posted:

Also the newtab page for firefox is really awful. Why would I want it to show the most recent stuff - I want it to list stuff I visit all the time, and not have stuff I just happened to load thrice in one session on there the next time I make a new tab.

Open the Library (Ctrl+Shift+B) and drag any sites you really like onto the new tab page. If you don't tell Firefox what sites you want there, it'll just have to guess.

Fangs404
Dec 20, 2004

I time bomb.

Xander77 posted:

Both of these are still a problem. Can anyone propose a different solution?

Follow the instructions in the OP.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Is anyone else getting crashes at startup today in the latest beta? My homepage is google so their video game logo may be causing it. It eventually is stable after a handful of crashes and restarts.

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

withak posted:

Is anyone else getting crashes at startup today in the latest beta? My homepage is google so their video game logo may be causing it. It eventually is stable after a handful of crashes and restarts.

No issues here on the latest build of Aurora.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Sorry if this has been mentioned before: does the location bar not show any text for anybody else on Nightly?



I've had that problem since I reinstalled Windows and Nightly, so I'm not sure if it's a hardware acceleration/anti-aliasing/whatever issue. I don't think it's a problem with Nightly on its own, though?

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WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

xtal posted:

Sorry if this has been mentioned before: does the location bar not show any text for anybody else on Nightly?



I've had that problem since I reinstalled Windows and Nightly, so I'm not sure if it's a hardware acceleration/anti-aliasing/whatever issue. I don't think it's a problem with Nightly on its own, though?

Working ok for me on Windows 7 x64 with nVidia GTS 250 and latest drivers, Nightly build is 2012-08-08.

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