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I got bored eventually and started trolling, the second guy there was actually some real talking, but as you said the hubris was pretty bad. The first guy spoke like some stereotyped nerd and was completely deluded and calling people idiots left right and centre, I called him an utter cretin, think it got a few laughs from the goons in there.
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Bruce Leroy posted:Also, what's different about the NHL that they don't seem to make much fuss about their athletes playing in the Olympics when their seasons are ongoing? Is this due to so many players being from Scandinavia, Russia, and other nations with large hockey followings and those players wanting to represent their home nations or what? Is it the relatively lower popularity and therefore lower amount of money involved or does the NHL actually take financial advantage and see an uptick in viewership and attendance at games after the Winter Olympics are over? A bit old, but it mostly boils down to money. The MLB schedule is incredibly dense and is much more so than a lot of other sports. Not including spring training or the post-season, over the course of 6 months (April to September) a team will play in 162 games. You get about 2 weeks worth of games and the All-Star Break off for the entire season. MLB does not want to push it much further than that, because they start running out of good weather and start butting heads with the winter bloc of sports in the post-season. None of the owners will want to take 2-3 weeks off in the middle of a season and lose something like 15-20 games worth of ticket sales. The NHL schedule on the other hand has an off-day every other day or so. You can make up the lost time by cutting off-days here or there.
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:To be fair (and I feel bad for sort-of defending conservapedia here), Zoroastrianism isn't/wasn't originally monotheistic was it? I always learned that it was focused on dualism, which does make it a fairly obvious progenitor to something like modern Christianity where everything is either "Acceptable" or "PART OF SATAN'S NEFARIOUS SCHEME", but it still recognized two distinct deities. Don't worry, you aren't defending these pricks. There's still Atenism, and before that, I remember Budge talking about pre-dynastic Egyptians worshiping a single axe-headed god, iirc. Stalingrad posted:The first guy spoke like some stereotyped nerd and was completely deluded and calling people idiots left right and centre, I called him an utter cretin, think it got a few laughs from the goons in there. Have any logs? Windozer fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Aug 11, 2012 |
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I'm definitely no expert on Zoroastrianism but it seemed monotheistic to me when I studied it. Ahura Mazda is the Supreme god, there are other entities like angels and there's a concept of evil, but Christianity has that too.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'm definitely no expert on Zoroastrianism but it seemed monotheistic to me when I studied it. Ahura Mazda is the Supreme god, there are other entities like angels and there's a concept of evil, but Christianity has that too. Zoroastrianism is monotheistic. There is a supreme deity above everything (Ahura Mazda) and the Daevas (beings of light) are under him, either being good or evil in nature. It's analogous to Judaic ideas of angels and demons.
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Aug 11, 2012 19:51
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Angra Mainyu is a concept of chaos and evil, but isn't a solid, given entity per see. It's similar to the Judeo-Christian concept that "Lucifer is the source of all evil" or what have you, but different in that Angra Mainyu isn't a single being. Think of it more along the lines of evil thoughts or intentions, at least that's how I was taught regarding it. Either way, it's all moot since there are earlier monotheistic interpretations anyway (Stuff that originates from monolatrism such as Atenism comes to mind).
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Windozer posted:Don't worry, you aren't defending these pricks. There's still Atenism, and before that, I remember Budge talking about pre-dynastic Egyptians worshiping a single axe-headed god, iirc. Unfortunately no, and I've been ip banned after I told them I was a gay muslim. (I'm not, but I thought it'd get a rise, surprisingly the muslim thing actually only annoyed 1/3 of the speakers) The problem is the main speaker as it were is on a mic not in chat, and the rest of the chat is either people calling him an idiot (he is) or people complaining about all the atheists.
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Rose Wreck posted:Also admitted that aliens were a plausible intelligent designer and he argued for them because there was just as much indication it was them as it was a god, but did not seem to draw any conclusions from this. Not uncommon, and less devastating than you might imagine. Usually the schtick is that intelligent design is not a religious theory, because the intelligent designer could be an alien or whatever... but who created the aliens? The rhetorical trick of intelligent design is that it proscribes no actual designer -- 'it could be any intelligent being' -- but that since the justification of intelligent design is that complex beings can't come from simpler ones it directly justifies a Prime Mover/Uncaused Cause-type move at the end. A longer or shorter chain of intelligent designers, necessarily terminating in god: that's the trick.
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Even so, any time you have to say "I debate for it even though I don't believe it, because it's so close to what I believe it's really the same thing" about aliens creating earth, self-awareness is struggling beneath the ice. Another question answered, but not proofread: Politcal correctness triumphed as the foreign-born reportedly lesbian coach of the U.S. team led them to repeat their previous gold medal performance. This is terrible for America! As bad as if we'd lost! Which would have been the coach's fault!
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Tartarus Sauce posted:My god, he seems like a sane, reasonable person! Imagine! Conservapedia policy on language seems to be: "It´s ok with character assassination and insults as long as you don´t use naughty words".
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Aug 12, 2012 13:20
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Diolatian posted:Conservapedia policy on language seems to be: "It´s ok with character assassination and insults as long as you don´t use naughty words". No, it's "as long as you don't use naughty words and don't criticize Andy and his sycophants."
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Aug 12, 2012 19:39
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Diolatian posted:Conservapedia policy on language seems to be: "It´s ok with character assassination and insults as long as you don´t use naughty words". That's a pretty popular sentiment among conservatives in general, especially in regards to gays, e.g. "I don't hate gay people, I'm just a faithful Christian defending traditional marriage." To them, they aren't anti-gay because they don't use anti-gay insults like "fag" or "dyke" even though they repeatedly talk about how it's wrong and sinful to be gay, how gays shouldn't be able to get married, and how anti-discrimination legislation shouldn't protect gays and transgender people.
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Bruce Leroy posted:That's a pretty popular sentiment among conservatives in general, especially in regards to gays, e.g. "I don't hate gay people, I'm just a faithful Christian defending traditional marriage." To them, they aren't anti-gay because they don't use anti-gay insults like "fag" or "dyke" even though they repeatedly talk about how it's wrong and sinful to be gay, how gays shouldn't be able to get married, and how anti-discrimination legislation shouldn't protect gays and transgender people. Loving this blog post on this exact topic: Why I Believe Bristol Palin
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I hope this isn't too far off topic. It's a list of crazy poo poo that appears in real schoolbooks. http://m.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/07/photos-evangelical-curricula-louisiana-tax-dollars
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prefect posted:I hope this isn't too far off topic. It's a list of crazy poo poo that appears in real schoolbooks. What the hell is up with all the anti-math rhetoric going around? This idea has even spread to the New York loving Times. I was an English major in college, but even I managed to get an A in pre-calculus. What is wrong with people?
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Binowru posted:What the hell is up with all the anti-math rhetoric going around? This idea has even spread to the New York loving Times. I was an English major in college, but even I managed to get an A in pre-calculus. What is wrong with people? What do Christian fundamentalists have against set theory? It's not a super-short article (and it's how I wound up reading the Mother Jones article), but it does a pretty good job of explaining. Basically, anything that doesn't make intuitive "common sense" is guilty of "modernity", which is the first step toward not believing in god.
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Binowru posted:What the hell is up with all the anti-math rhetoric going around? This idea has even spread to the New York loving Times. I was an English major in college, but even I managed to get an A in pre-calculus. What is wrong with people? Sheesh...he used so many statistics in that article. Can't he find a better way to make his point???
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prefect posted:I hope this isn't too far off topic. It's a list of crazy poo poo that appears in real schoolbooks. So this poo poo is just fine to teach to kids, but LAWDY NO YOU BEST NOT BE TEACHING MY LITTLE ONES ABOUT NO EVO-LU-TION!!!!. Seriously why is this poo poo which is obviously and provably wrong OK to teach in the south??
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AcidRonin posted:So this poo poo is just fine to teach to kids, but LAWDY NO YOU BEST NOT BE TEACHING MY LITTLE ONES ABOUT NO EVO-LU-TION!!!!. Seriously why is this poo poo which is obviously and provably wrong OK to teach in the south?? Because it fits the agenda of the parents and politicians down there.
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AcidRonin posted:So this poo poo is just fine to teach to kids, but LAWDY NO YOU BEST NOT BE TEACHING MY LITTLE ONES ABOUT NO EVO-LU-TION!!!!. Seriously why is this poo poo which is obviously and provably wrong OK to teach in the south?? 1 & 2 support YEC mythology, 3-7 are comforting rationalizations to terrible things, 8&9 allow outdated thinking to still seem relevant, 10, 11, and 13 mean that parents don't have to risk learning anything, and 12, 13, and 14 are all ways to ignore the future. Basically it's education in the hands of people who find change and knowledge threatening.
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AcidRonin posted:So this poo poo is just fine to teach to kids, but LAWDY NO YOU BEST NOT BE TEACHING MY LITTLE ONES ABOUT NO EVO-LU-TION!!!!. Seriously why is this poo poo which is obviously and provably wrong OK to teach in the south?? Don't forget that this is from books used in Christian private schools, that are only coming into the spotlight now because of Louisiana's voucher program where they would receive public funds. This is coming to the fore now because there are pretty obvious quality issues, which "the market" was supposed to take care of and make better than the public school system.
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Disappointed to find out that some of the crazier things I've heard aren't on Conservapedia. For a while, I played piano for services in this crazy hardcore "non-denominational" bible study church. Felt kind of like an undercover agent. The pastor liked to talk about how black holes were used in the creation of the universe, how they found Noah's ark in the Ukraine, and so on. I'll try to remember some of the best stuff: * According to the order of creation in Genesis, plant life existed before rainfall and the sun. * Jesus was born without original sin. Because God is the father, it therefore must be carried in the Y-Chromosome. * There were no carnivores in the Garden of Eden because there was no death, but God created certain animals with carnivore features just in case. * Evolution is false because cars don't run better over time. Lots of other crazy stuff - the two month creationism study was particularly scary. And the drunk congregation member informing me that I was going to hell was funny.
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http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Ponies_vs._atheism_-_Ponies_win This page... this page. I can barely read through it, so I won't post quotes. Is this serious? My brain is melting! What's going on?
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Raneman posted:http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Ponies_vs._atheism_-_Ponies_win I don't even know. There's also the Atheists say the darndest things! essay, which contains no quotes from atheists. Like, not even obviously fake quotes that he puts in atheists' mouths. No quotes from atheists at all. It's mostly more quotes from Shockofgod
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Binowru posted:I don't even know. There's also the Atheists say the darndest things! essay, which contains no quotes from atheists. Like, not even obviously fake quotes that he puts in atheists' mouths. No quotes from atheists at all. It's mostly more quotes from Shockofgod He's so goddamned proud of that loving clown metaphor.
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myron cope posted:Sheesh...he used so many statistics in that article. Can't he find a better way to make his point??? I'd be totally in favour of spending less time on algebra and calculus and more time on probability and statistics, but unfortunately that is not the argument being run. Nor can you eliminate either algebra and calculus in favor of the other two obviously, because you need algebra to understand statistics. It's foundational. Eh, what a stupid article. Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Aug 15, 2012 |
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I like the way the article on the ACLU claims they are "against god", yet also has the following section:quote:Prisoner and student rights Also their article on the 2012 Olympics is hilarious. Making every effort to shoehorn links to homosexuality and atheism in there. He really is utterly obsessed 
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prefect posted:What do Christian fundamentalists have against set theory?
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Shima Honnou posted:Because it fits the agenda of the parents and politicians down there. But my confusion comes from this, I'm originally from Main and then I moved to Virginia, I was NEVER fed this bullshit as though it was history/science. I learned the actual facts of the nation's history and Evolution along with other scientific facts and not one teacher ever even hinted that there was another option. They didn’t say that there was no god and how dare you idiots believe in him, but they didn’t bring religion into the classroom at all. I also never heard about this happening from anyone else that went to the 4 other high schools near me. Why does it seem that only Conservative politicians/community leaders feel the need to shove an agenda down children’s throats? EDIT: SO, just thought I would click on this, and found this gem underneath the first photograph quote:Women and girls throughout the world love ponies, but most women and girls dislike atheism.[1][2] Ponies are often nicer than American atheists who typically give less to charity than American theists.[3] Let’s play the "what the gently caress are they citing here??" game. Below is a list of their academic sources for their claims: *Ahem* [1] http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_appears_to_be_significantly_less_appealing_to_women Also known as an essay written by the same mutherfucking dude. [2] http://www.conservapedia.com/Views_on_Atheists Citing itself again....? hmm i don’t think this is how academic literature works.... [3] http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_uncharitableness Ok so what i have learned is that i can make ANY claim at all, and then cite myself making that claim as a source and it is FINE?? EX: Goons are all nice people and you would be silly to not leave your personal belongings with them [1] [1] AcidRonin Post XXXX Somethingawful.com FOR SURLEY NOW BEGINS MY ROBUST CAREER IN ACADAMEIA!! AcidRonin fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Aug 15, 2012 |
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AcidRonin posted:But my confusion comes from this, I'm originally from Main and then I moved to Virginia, I was NEVER fed this bullshit as though it was history/science. I learned the actual facts of the nation's history and Evolution along with other scientific facts and not one teacher ever even hinted that there was another option. They didn’t say that there was no god and how dare you idiots believe in him, but they didn’t bring religion into the classroom at all. I also never heard about this happening from anyone else that went to the 4 other high schools near me. Why does it seem that only Conservative politicians/community leaders feel the need to shove an agenda down children’s throats? It is said that reality has a liberal bias.
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prefect posted:It is said that reality has a liberal bias. I think Bill Maher said it best, "Democrats, sure were lame and we dont really get anything done, but look at the other guys!! There nuts!!"
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Binowru posted:I don't even know. There's also the Atheists say the darndest things! essay, which contains no quotes from atheists. Like, not even obviously fake quotes that he puts in atheists' mouths. No quotes from atheists at all. It's mostly more quotes from Shockofgod Feast your eyes upon: http://www.conservapedia.com/Category:Atheism http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Category:Atheism&from=Essay%3A+The+overwhelming+proof+and+evidence+for+evolution For fucks sake, this is just part of the E's: 
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jojoinnit posted:Feast your eyes upon: Cant help but notice wich one is purple....
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Holy poo poo new best page ever found: http://conservapedia.com/Essay:_More_kimchi_please It's... it's loving beautiful. 'This man did not live forever because he was an atheist'.
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AcidRonin posted:Cant help but notice wich one is purple....  Raneman posted:http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Ponies_vs._atheism_-_Ponies_win
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Stoat posted:Holy poo poo new best page ever found: Luckily for me there is no such thing as too much kimchi.
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I also notice the Conservapedia definition of "Essay" apparently means "one picture with a caption."
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I think i have found the problem here. Just a total lack of ability to distinquish humor or reality. The following vidio was subitedted as proof that TheAmazeingAthiest was a coward becuase he had the following reaction while watching an episode of My Little Pony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySNc_YYAOw I don't like the amazing atheist cause i think he is a little annoying but how can you not tell that this is a joke....
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Wow. The enemy of my enemy is my friend I guess. That article talks about Rebecca Watson's Elevator Incident and is pretty sympathetic to her, and rightfully attacks Dawkins for being a tool. I agree with Conservapedia on something. cool
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Conservapedia: A Friend To Women Also, I am puzzled the term "the atheist community". What are they even referring to? Rebecca Watson and Conservapedia both make mention of this supposed community. Is it a forum somewhere? Are they an American atheist club that nobody has thought of a name for? What community is it that Conservapedia sees so many fat people in, and which apparently sent Rebecca Watson a bunch of rape/death threats?
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