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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:The budgets for those got smaller and smaller and I thought they called it a day after the 3rd one pretty much bombed...? The second one had a larger budget then the first? And the third still had a pretty large budget of around 150 million. Why is everyone saying this stupid poo poo?
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Trump posted:The second one had a larger budget then the first? And the third still had a pretty large budget of around 150 million. Probably because we are in a LOTR thread. I'd like to point out that the "kitchen sink" aproach gets less and less used as the books move on and they get much more specific and thematic. Most people are just more familiar with LthWatW.
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Aug 26, 2012 11:21
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Bombadilillo posted:The Magicians Nephew is next.
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Aug 26, 2012 12:57
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Walden Media lost the Narnia film rights, but there's some moratorium until 2018, so no studio could make another Narnia movie until then if they even wanted to. There's no more Narnia movies coming, I don't know why anyone would think there is. Is there some official announcement about a third Hobbit film? People have looked at me like I'm crazy when I said "the first of three is out this December; you (likely) won't see Smaug in it." They're convinced it's just one, which is certainly wrong, but I couldn't find anywhere but posts in here confirming the addition of a third.
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Ville Valo posted:Is there some official announcement about a third Hobbit film? People have looked at me like I'm crazy when I said "the first of three is out this December; you (likely) won't see Smaug in it." They're convinced it's just one, which is certainly wrong, but I couldn't find anywhere but posts in here confirming the addition of a third. Did you try google? http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118057210 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/third-hobbit-film-confirmed-355817 http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2012/07/third-hobbit-movie/ http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/30/the-hobbit-3-officially-announced And the official statement. https://www.facebook.com/notes/peter-jackson/an-unexpected-journey/10151114596546558
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Aug 26, 2012 17:23
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Ville Valo posted:Is there some official announcement about a third Hobbit film? People have looked at me like I'm crazy when I said "the first of three is out this December; you (likely) won't see Smaug in it." They're convinced it's just one, which is certainly wrong, but I couldn't find anywhere but posts in here confirming the addition of a third. Good luck also explaining to non-Tolkien-nerds where the material to make up 3 films is coming from.
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Aug 27, 2012 11:55
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:Good luck also explaining to non-Tolkien-nerds where the material to make up 3 films is coming from. Good luck explaining to Tolkien-nerds where the material to make up 3 films is coming from. Even The Tolkien Prof is skeptical as to how they're going to pad out three films. Episode 14 of 'Riddles in the Dark' podcast for reference. Obviously story spoilers if you haven't read any Tolkien.
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I think we're all going to eventually have to admit to ourselves what we already know to be true deep down inside that Jackson/Boyens/Walsh are going to be adding their own poo poo to the limited information in the appendices.
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Aug 27, 2012 15:41
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kiimo posted:I think we're all going to eventually have to admit to ourselves what we already know to be true deep down inside that Jackson/Boyens/Walsh are going to be adding their own poo poo to the limited information in the appendices. Jackson added plenty of stuff to Lord of the Rings, so I don't know why anyone would expect otherwise for The Hobbit.
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Aug 27, 2012 16:11
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kiimo posted:I think we're all going to eventually have to admit to ourselves what we already know to be true deep down inside that Jackson/Boyens/Walsh are going to be adding their own poo poo to the limited information in the appendices. Can't wait for the extras where Philippa Boyens smugly proclaims Tolkien would have loved her Gandalf/Galadriel/Radagast love triangle fanfiction.
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Slate Action posted:Jackson added plenty of stuff to Lord of the Rings, so I don't know why anyone would expect otherwise for The Hobbit. Yes I know but I think everyone kind of dances around it because most of the stuff they added in LOTR was the most poorly-received. Just wait until the Trolls on Ice scene.
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Aug 27, 2012 17:17
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A scene where 13 Dwarves are tossed.
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:Good luck also explaining to non-Tolkien-nerds where the material to make up 3 films is coming from. When you can't use the Silmarillion there's not that much extra material.
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Aug 27, 2012 17:43
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What was the new stuff they added to lotr?
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Alhazred posted:When you can't use the Silmarillion there's not that much extra material. RotK has a huge appendix. I wonder what the legal line is for something in the Silmarillion but also the appedix. So if Character X is liested in a geneology can they use his likeness and tell a story just not in the silmarillion?
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Aug 27, 2012 18:11
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Zzulu posted:What was the new stuff they added to lotr? Elves showing up at Helms Deep Arwen/Aragon relationship Arwen at the flight to to ford And a bunch of other small details.
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Aug 27, 2012 18:15
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keep punching joe posted:Elves showing up at Helms Deep Wargs attacking Theoden's army on the way to Helm's Deep.
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I don't have a problem with any of those additions honestly
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Aug 27, 2012 18:33
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Alhazred posted:Wargs attacking Theoden's army on the way to Helm's Deep. Humor. Faramir's a dick. His dad is looney tunes. edit: and a Mountain Dew scary ghost army.
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Aug 27, 2012 18:35
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kiimo posted:Humor. Faramir's a dick. His dad is looney tunes. "That still only counts as one!" 
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Aug 27, 2012 18:35
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The Silmarillion contains the story of the LOTR so I can't imagine the legal restrictions on using people and stories that appear in both is very strong.
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Aug 27, 2012 18:38
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Slate Action posted:"That still only counts as one!" If anything the killing contest between Gimli and Legolas is so downplayed that it almost only appears in the extended scenes. And I liked that line because the movie had been so relentlessly grim and serious up until that point that any attempt at humor was welcome.
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Aug 27, 2012 18:41
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Saruman creating the Uruk-Hai, in fact even the method of creation is an addition. In the books it is implied that Saruman was breeding Orcs and Men to create them, though maybe showing dungeons full of kidnapped women pregnant with half-Orc children is a little too dark for PG13.
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I personally had no problem with the humor portions. In fact the only thing I had a problem with was Faramir. I was absolutely on board with kicking anything to do with Tom Bombadil to the curb.
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Alhazred posted:If anything the killing contest between Gimli and Legolas is so downplayed that it almost only appears in the extended scenes. And I liked that line because the movie had been so relentlessly grim and serious up until that point that any attempt at humor was welcome. I should have been more clear: I love that line. At this point, I'm pretty confident in Jackson's ability to successfully add things to the source material.
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kiimo posted:I personally had no problem with the humor portions. In fact the only thing I had a problem with was Faramir. I don't really see why giving Faramir a personality was wrong.
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kiimo posted:edit: and a Mountain Dew scary ghost army. loving this. Horrible poo poo.
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The Ghost army was so dumb and bad. I was - as a viewer - so exhausted by that point it didn't really matter to me though. Looking back on it it is the weakest part of the whole thing.
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kiimo posted:I personally had no problem with the humor portions. In fact the only thing I had a problem with was Faramir. I was absolutely on board with kicking anything to do with Tom Bombadil to the curb. Shut your face.
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I really wanted to see the scouring of the shire, that's probably my favourite part of Return of the King. The Hobbits return to The Shire confident as gently caress (and one of them is pretty much a giant) and then they clean house from those freaky goblin-men. I'm sure they could have cut one of the other 15 different endings or the horrible ghost army and made room for this section.
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keep punching joe posted:I really wanted to see the scouring of the shire, that's probably my favourite part of Return of the King. The Hobbits return to The Shire confident as gently caress (and one of them is pretty much a giant) and then they clean house from those freaky goblin-men. I totally agree with you, I occasionally pick up ROTK just to read through Scouring of the Shire through the appendices. I can't help thinking that time would have been much better served in this and maybe combine some battles or something. Did we need that many battles in ROTK? What did we have like three? Bombadilillo posted:Shut your face.  LOL nice boots, Nancy.
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Bombadil is a valor so powerful he just merrily does his own thing and can't be bothered with your petty "War of the ring". Also, I haven't seen your Gandalf raising people from the dead with a wave of his hand. 
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Tom Bombadil is the literary equivalent of God-mode on a game. It just makes the playing field stupid. The entire Fellowship should have gone to the forest to ceaselessly implore him to wipe Sauron off the map. Plus he's the biggest flower child of them all and I dislike the whole hippy angle in LOTR.
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Aug 27, 2012 19:22
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Bombadil just wants to talk in iambic pentameter, gently caress Goldberry, and be left alone. As awesome as he is, he was too weird for the movies (and would also undermine the dramatic tension as millions of viewers would say... "hey just give the ring to this dude")
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Aug 27, 2012 19:23
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kiimo posted:
Probably the first time anyone has accused Tolkien of having a hippy angle. Wasn't he really annoyed of hippies calling him and asking if the balrog had wings? keep punching joe posted:(and would also undermine the dramatic tension as millions of viewers would say... "hey just give the ring to this dude") Frodo actually asks Gandalf why they can't do that. But the whole point of the story is that you can't just hide the ring or give it to somebody for safekeeping, you have to destroy it. Alhazred fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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keep punching joe posted:Bombadil just wants to talk in iambic pentameter, gently caress Goldberry, and be left alone. This is the best synopsis of Bombadil ever. kiimo posted:Tom Bombadil is the literary equivalent of God-mode on a game. It just makes the playing field stupid. The entire Fellowship should have gone to the forest to ceaselessly implore him to wipe Sauron off the map. I don't know how hippy he is. You could easily swing him into there. But he sings and gardens, more like demigod version of a hobbit then anything.
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Alhazred posted:Probably the first time anyone has accused Tolkien of having a hippy angle. Wasn't he really annoyed of hippies calling him and asking if the balrog had wings? He says that the ring is so far below Bombadil that he doesn't recognize its significance and he would eventually just lose it. He also hold the ring, puts it on (does not disappear) and throws it into the air where the ring vanishes, Frodo freaks and Bombadil gives it back. Anyone not familiar with the book version of Fellowship missed out in my opinion. But then, I like him more then the rest.
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I'm not saying Bombadil is hippy because of Tolkien, but all the art of him is. I hate hippy Tom Bombadil.
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The best theory on bombadil is that he is not a valar but some kind of manifestation of God/Illuvatar and therefore does not interfere/give a poo poo about anything , even though that rule is subtly broken here and there by getting the ring to Bilbo and rezzing Gandalf etc
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Sylink posted:The best theory on bombadil is that he is not a valar but some kind of manifestation of God/Illuvatar and therefore does not interfere/give a poo poo about anything , even though that rule is subtly broken here and there by getting the ring to Bilbo and rezzing Gandalf etc That sounds cool. I thought he was explicitly stated to be a valar.
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