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Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
Whew, good thing I was doing exactly that. I started as a Fighter and beelined for passive benefits, since it seemed like it would affect the character, not the class.

Also, how does one level up "Vocation"? I was just running around and I leveled, while other times I leveled up while I was killing stuff.

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qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

Azran posted:

Whew, good thing I was doing exactly that. I started as a Fighter and beelined for passive benefits, since it seemed like it would affect the character, not the class.

Also, how does one level up "Vocation"? I was just running around and I leveled, while other times I leveled up while I was killing stuff.

Every time you gain experience, you get a certain percentage of that in dcp, which levels up your vocation. You get the greatest percentage at under 100 exp, so the fastest way to level vocation is to kill mobs of weak enemies.

Also keep in mind that every time your character gains a level, he/she gains stats depending on what vocation you are when you gained the level. Useful to know if you care about long term stat growth.

qbert fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Sep 10, 2012

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul
So I got I to the post game with a sorcerer and still don't enjoy playing a caster really. Is it feasible to switch gears and try assassin at this point or should I just start over (my other plan)?

Edit: I will say that wiping out 2/3rds of the dragon's health bar with a single well-placed maelstrom was pretty cool.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

andrew smash posted:

So I got I to the post game with a sorcerer and still don't enjoy playing a caster really. Is it feasible to switch gears and try assassin at this point or should I just start over (my other plan)?

Edit: I will say that wiping out 2/3rds of the dragon's health bar with a single well-placed maelstrom was pretty cool.

Your stats won't be as directed toward strength/health which are important for assassin, but you can definitely do it without much a problem. You would probably be better off switching to magick archer or mystic knight, but just do whatever you want, this game doesn't make class decisions very binding.

Also definitely don't restart, as you're quite close to the end of the game.

Stranger Danger Ranger
Jul 21, 2007
There are lizards coming out of my tv.
Assassin rules, their counter-attack skills add a lot to melee combat, and sword and bow is a winning combination.

Transistor Rhythm
Feb 16, 2011

If setting the Sustain Level in the ENV to around 7, you can obtain a howling sound.

I just started the quest where you head off to the greatwall, which I know is near the end of the game.

1. What's the final "point of no return" before you have to face the dragon?

2. Am I going to be totally hosed as a Magic Archer? I feel like my magic sucks and I'm only about half-full in the vocation department.

3. However, I did get my items "Dragon forged" by fighting the drake in devilfire grove for a while, then running away (thought I had to beat him to get dragonforged?).

rizuhbull
Mar 30, 2011

Can you swing larger weapons effectively? If so, is it by creating a bigger character?

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Veyrall posted:

Wait, where did this info get revealed?

He spells it out if you talk to him enough to exhaust his dialogue lines after getting the Arisen's Bond. He found out about the Arisen's friends and loved ones being used by the Dragon, so he forsake all human companionship. He thought doing this would remove the possible weakness of having someone he loved be taken by the Dragon.

But he was unable to fight the Dragon or it outright refused to fight him because of this, as relationships are integral to a human that is destined to attempt to take the throne of the Seneschal. With the Arisen being immortal as long as the Dragon allows it or lives (note the Dragonforged crumbling to dust upon the Dragon's death, while Edmund just rapidly ages), he was basically cursed to watch as everything he knew crumbled away, until all he had left was his Pawn, now known as the Fool, who has been going kind of insane over the years.

Stranger Danger Ranger
Jul 21, 2007
There are lizards coming out of my tv.

Transistor Rhythm posted:

I just started the quest where you head off to the greatwall, which I know is near the end of the game.

1. What's the final "point of no return" before you have to face the dragon?

2. Am I going to be totally hosed as a Magic Archer? I feel like my magic sucks and I'm only about half-full in the vocation department.

3. However, I did get my items "Dragon forged" by fighting the drake in devilfire grove for a while, then running away (thought I had to beat him to get dragonforged?).

1. Funnily enough, a message will pop up mentioning you've reached the point of no return about one in-game inch in front of the invisible wall that activates it. I'm not actually sure what it says since it's never been up on my screen long enough to get more than the first couple of words. That was a pretty baffling design decision there. But don't worry, it's really obvious that it's coming up, stuff will start looking very familiar.

2. Did you end up killing the drake? If you can do that no problem you'll be fine.

3. As far as I know you do, and even then there's only a chance it'll happen. How weird.

Ograbme
Jul 26, 2003

D--n it, how he nicks 'em
Where da griffins at? I've only seen one between that quest and the postgame.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
They're a random encounter at the Gran Soren fields.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

They won't show up until you've gotten a little into the game--I think you have to get access to Blue Moon Tower before they start roaming wildly. You can't always make them fight you, though, but you can encourage them if you slaughter animals nearby so they will come down to eat.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Jaaam posted:

1. Funnily enough, a message will pop up mentioning you've reached the point of no return about one in-game inch in front of the invisible wall that activates it. I'm not actually sure what it says since it's never been up on my screen long enough to get more than the first couple of words.

I remember my pawn cautioning me when I was getting close, saying something about how we shouldn't rush to confront the dragon.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed
I think the only postgame griffin spawn point is at Hillfigure Knoll. I never saw it actually come down to fight either.

"There master, a griffin!"

*Grand epic theme music starts up, griffin doesn't give a gently caress and just keeps flying*

Ograbme
Jul 26, 2003

D--n it, how he nicks 'em
61 levels and I just now realize you have to set your augments.

Veyrall
Apr 23, 2010

The greatest poet this
side of the cyberpocalypse

Dr. Abysmal posted:

*Grand epic theme music starts up, griffin doesn't give a gently caress and just keeps flying*
The real Dragon's Dogma starts here.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
Alright, reached Gran Soren. Can't avoid skipping dialogue, it's just so inane. :v:

Where should I head next? I went to a forest (it had a monastery) and then a mine (there was a merchant outside) to the west - I think - of the city and got murdered by bandits.

Also, no fast travel makes me a sad panda.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
I just finished this. It's not often I play something that's so wildly loopy in quality. Completely unremarkable fantasy setting, horrible backtracking, very little energy to the story and pain-in-the-rear end item management on one hand. On the other, pretty good combat, some spectacular boss fights, and the plot actually makes a semi-successful attempt to be clever in the final stretch. Overall I don't regret the purchase, and I might replay it if only so I can pick up the bunch of really involved and story-heavy quests I lost forever in the first two hours seriously who the gently caress does that

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

Lotish posted:

They won't show up until you've gotten a little into the game--I think you have to get access to Blue Moon Tower before they start roaming wildly. You can't always make them fight you, though, but you can encourage them if you slaughter animals nearby so they will come down to eat.

I killed one before that quest. But it was only after doing some vocation grinding in the Gran Soren fields. But I think the trick is to kill stuff and let it come down to eat. But I hate fighting Griffins because they spend all their time in the air and it doesn't seem like Arrows even work that well.

Nahxela
Oct 11, 2008

Execution

Azran posted:

Alright, reached Gran Soren. Can't avoid skipping dialogue, it's just so inane. :v:

Where should I head next? I went to a forest (it had a monastery) and then a mine (there was a merchant outside) to the west - I think - of the city and got murdered by bandits.

Also, no fast travel makes me a sad panda.
If you look around the area near the Pawn Guild, you'll find a set of interesting looking crystals, as well as an item. That item is basically the only means of fast travel you'll have, and even then, it will be limited to only traveling to Gran Soren. However, that's still more than what I did because I didn't discover it until very late into the game :v:
Anyways, you can buy more of those from the fat merchant guy whose name I forget, and I think you can buy them from the Black Cat, but I forget. You won't get the other half of fast travel until a while into the game.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Holy poo poo the Berserk thing. HOLY poo poo!

Okay bought sold and subscribed.

I wish they'd release this on the PC :(

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
I am sick of running in circles blindly, where is the best place to catch a griffin? He got away from me at the cow pasture, and I haven't seen him in loving eons.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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coyo7e posted:

I am sick of running in circles blindly, where is the best place to catch a griffin? He got away from me at the cow pasture, and I haven't seen him in loving eons.

The three spots they hunt are right outside Gran Soren, between the Hill Figure Knoll and the fort north of Gran Soren, and the battlefield by the Southern bandits' keep. It seems like they'll always be in one of those three spots, but the bandit one is so loving remote that I've only killed it through sheer coincidence.

I think it chooses a location by day, and if you really need to catch one you can kill yourself and retry if you don't burn its wings and it gets away.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I've got this game a few days back and have been playing it pretty much non stop. A quick question though; is there any reason I shouldn't just do a new game + when I beat it instead of doing post game content and do the post game content in my NG+? No spoilers please.

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Leal posted:

I've got this game a few days back and have been playing it pretty much non stop. A quick question though; is there any reason I shouldn't just do a new game + when I beat it instead of doing post game content and do the post game content in my NG+? No spoilers please.

You're in danger of being bored to tears by how easy NG+ is before you get to the "post game".

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

blackguy32 posted:

I killed one before that quest. But it was only after doing some vocation grinding in the Gran Soren fields. But I think the trick is to kill stuff and let it come down to eat. But I hate fighting Griffins because they spend all their time in the air and it doesn't seem like Arrows even work that well.

You have to set their wings on fire to reliably keep them grounded.

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

Leal posted:

I've got this game a few days back and have been playing it pretty much non stop. A quick question though; is there any reason I shouldn't just do a new game + when I beat it instead of doing post game content and do the post game content in my NG+? No spoilers please.

No, but there's no reason not to do post-game stuff the first time around either.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

qbert posted:

Leal posted:

I've got this game a few days back and have been playing it pretty much non stop. A quick question though; is there any reason I shouldn't just do a new game + when I beat it instead of doing post game content and do the post game content in my NG+? No spoilers please.

No, but there's no reason not to do post-game stuff the first time around either.

I had a hard time doing post-game my first time through. I finished up at level 50, and got consistently wrecked by the post-game enemies. This might not be an issue for you if you are good at games, since I am not.

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.

titties posted:


I had a hard time doing post-game my first time through. I finished up at level 50, and got consistently wrecked by the post-game enemies. This might not be an issue for you if you are good at games, since I am not.

Ice magic and ice-tempered weapons absolutely wreck some of those enemies like hellhounds and definitely made my life easier.

Ograbme
Jul 26, 2003

D--n it, how he nicks 'em
What do all those tripwires do?

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I want to do a new game plus just for the achievement, may as well get that then do the post game asap instead of doing it on my first run.

And so I can get a chance to do mercede's drat escort quest that just up and vanished for no reason :argh:

Stranger Danger Ranger
Jul 21, 2007
There are lizards coming out of my tv.

Ograbme posted:

What do all those tripwires do?

I think they're supposed to alert Saurians or Goblins, but I'm not sure. I've never seen them actually do anything either.

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


Hard mode plus Speedrun mode confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBufHMolOcY

Hot drat.

Tobaccrow
Jan 21, 2008

Don't smoke, kids... Unless you have to.
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen was announced.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/21/tgs-dragons-dogma-dark-arisen-announced
For 360 and PS3, you can import your save. No other details so far.

davidHalestorm
Aug 5, 2009
gently caress yes! That's what I wanted from game. Capcom makes a good decision?

Veyrall
Apr 23, 2010

The greatest poet this
side of the cyberpocalypse
My brain has been exploded. Hard Mode and a new expansion?! I was saving money for X-Com, drat it!

Mister Blueberry
Feb 17, 2010

Mike, Steve, what the hell
All of this sounds pretty awesome. No word if the hard and speedrun mode will be free or cost $$$?

Sylphosaurus
Sep 6, 2007
Sounds fantastic. Dragons Dogma was one of the few games I bought at release for full price and I haven't regretted it for even one second.

EDIT: Wasn't Easy Mode a free update?

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

Mister Blueberry posted:

All of this sounds pretty awesome. No word if the hard and speedrun mode will be free or cost $$$?

Siliconera says they are free.
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/09/21/dragons-dogma-to-see-dark-arisen-expansion-in-2013-free-modes-this-year/

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Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
I'm at work can somebody c/p the basic info on hard mode? Cause oh my God finally something for me and my Pawn to do.

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