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osukeith161 posted:I've seen both episodes. Abso-fuckig-loutely. So now that that is settled, why is it any different? It wasn't a contest where "whatever I picked out a hat, even if it was whale-eating Alaskan province, is what I will go to." It was chosen. Very carefully. And if you don't believe so, then woe is you. Submitting VHS tapes (did anyone really do this?) to a network is not at all vs the same legal rigidity of contests like lotteries or gambling. Take your romanticized notion of "contest" away, which it never was, and it was insulting. I'm not sure what exactly I'm responding to in this mess, but your complaint was about the guy they brought along, who sort of came packaged with the location. He wasn't supposed to be their handler or anything, they have their own people to do that I'm sure, he was just there because he won.
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osukeith161 posted:That was, in my mind, when the shark jumped. Not really relevant to the thread but the shark doesn't jump... it gets jumped over 
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osukeith161 posted:I've forever had a problem with him. He is pretty much the definition of a celebrity chef, and his expertise are steaks. I don't want to act like people don't routinely kill their beef, but cooking a steak is not too far beyond boiling water. Especially if every cut you get is identical, the same temp, your grill/broiler/pan is always about the same temp. You pretty much just season, flop it on, flip it, and remove. If a fryer at Wendy's didn't beep when the fries were done, it would be about as intricate. Gramercy Tavern and Craft aren't steakhouses and he became famous for those long before CraftSteak
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It's hard to stay in love with you, Jen Carroll when you gush over Cole Hamels like that. <<<
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osukeith161 posted:Don't get me wrong, he is far more interesting than 95% of the people on FN. But, to not believe his show is a faux-intellectual travel show about him acting all deep and dark while having an entire network foot the bill and an entourage of cameras can only go so far. I soured on him when he, er, I mean Travel Channel, some producer, anyone but him, picked a Filipino, who never had actually been to the philippines as a host. That was, in my mind, when the shark jumped. Oh good, I'm not the only one who doesn't really like No Reservations that much. I enjoyed Bourdain's books, but the writing and narration on that show just annoys the hell out of me. I appreciate the effort, but it's so lame sometimes, and I'm not sure if it's like that ironically or intentionally.
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Oct 18, 2012 03:50
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The Ted Nugent episode of No Reservations was downright offensive.
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Timett posted:Not really relevant to the thread but the shark doesn't jump... it gets jumped over If only the shark had jumped Fonzie instead of the other way around...
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Wait No Reservations has fans still? Like don't get me wrong I respect Bourdain as a professional and all but I thought by now most people had caught on No Reservation was the 'smug white guy talks down to other nations from a luxury hotel' show. Speaking of those shows, is that other one any good? Weird Foods or whatever with the guy who looks like an egg?
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As a huge Bourdain fan, I really did lose a lot of interest in this last tour. Especially since the network decided to pad it out with three clip shows. Something Bourdain isn't too happy about and another shinning example as to why he'd gladly leave to go to CNN for. In any case, you mean that roast wasn't taped?!
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I like when Ted Allen is on "Best Thing I Ever Ate" because he seems to always class it up. Every one else is talking about greasy nasty food and Ted is wearing a $3000 suit and eating this really decadent food at an upscale restaurant.
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Hilariously enough, after all this talk of Sandra Lee being a lush, I just saw a commercial for her new show on Cooking Channel: Sandra Lee's Taverns, Lounges & Clubs.  I'm sure it's total coincidence that the title is so similar to Diners, Drive-ins and Dives, even down to the syllable count.
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Conduit for Sale! posted:Hilariously enough, after all this talk of Sandra Lee being a lush, I just saw a commercial for her new show on Cooking Channel: Sandra Lee's Taverns, Lounges & Clubs. Maybe they can rip off Bar Rescue where it will just be the PAs and producers dragging Sandra Lee out of these places when she is three sheets to the wind.
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Conduit for Sale! posted:Hilariously enough, after all this talk of Sandra Lee being a lush, I just saw a commercial for her new show on Cooking Channel: Sandra Lee's Taverns, Lounges & Clubs. Someone get her to go to that pirate bar from bar rescue please.
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Conduit for Sale! posted:Hilariously enough, after all this talk of Sandra Lee being a lush, I just saw a commercial for her new show on Cooking Channel: Sandra Lee's Taverns, Lounges & Clubs. What a lush. (sorry had to rerail the convo)  It's the Cooking channel, and this show appears. Now I was going to make a quip about how drinking isn't cooking, but gently caress me if there isn't a 'recipe' for Irish Nachos. http://www.cookingchanneltv.com/recipes/irish-nachos-recipe/index.html And it's made with potato chips instead of french fries! Ingenious! I'm both laughing and shaking my head at the same time.
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so my wife loves her some Ramsay, we just binged through 3 seasons of masterchef. I saw an ad for some new Ramsay cooking with Inmates at a jail show starting this week on food network canada yes / no?
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Hardtarget posted:so my wife loves her some Ramsay, we just binged through 3 seasons of masterchef. I saw an ad for some new Ramsay cooking with Inmates at a jail show starting this week on food network canada Yes no to what exactly? I think he did a show like this previously in England that I remember because he hired one of the inmates for his restaurant when he got out.
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osukeith161 posted:I will hate on Collichio all day, everday, and generally will defend Anthony, but don't you think that, in many ways, is more offensive than the "actors" who embrace it? If there were never a Hunter S Thompson, I am not so sure what Bourdain would be doing. His entire schtick is Hunter who worked in a restaurant industry. Oh man, this is loving completely on point. Love Bourdain but this is essentially every season of No Reservations past 4-5. "Could I live here? Maybe... If not for the trappings of my gutter trash upbringings I would be one with these people. Our spirits would meld and then I would truly understand what they are." Auuuawwwwaaahhhh
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iastudent posted:Sweet Genius season premiere in one hour, they're doing a rerun from last season before that. I have maybe one pack a year so no one can jump on my back for eating 'em but oh god I love sno-balls. When the contestant said "ew" as they came out I was very mad.
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platypusmalone posted:Oh man, this is loving completely on point. Love Bourdain but this is essentially every season of No Reservations past 4-5. Still, the cinematography on No Reservations is excellent compared to every other American food related show that I can think of.
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Polegrinder posted:I like when Ted Allen is on "Best Thing I Ever Ate" because he seems to always class it up. Every one else is talking about greasy nasty food and Ted is wearing a $3000 suit and eating this really decadent food at an upscale restaurant. Ted Allen likes to make fun of the recent trend of going to greasy spoons by going to enjoy something way beyond the budget of the average joe. Really I would love to watch Ted Allen go on a food tour and go to all of these exclusive places just for a change of pace. Only Asia and Europe still put some care into their cooking shows. But they really need to give more money to the hosts that says "Find me some places that actually serves some expensive grub so you can rub it in the viewers' face". Conduit for Sale! posted:Hilariously enough, after all this talk of Sandra Lee being a lush, I just saw a commercial for her new show on Cooking Channel: Sandra Lee's Taverns, Lounges & Clubs. At least we can trust Sandra on alcohol, then again. The stuff she drink may just destroys all taste buds Also, just learned Restaurant Makeover is being redone as Takeover, Tomocheski and Capra are the two main chefs but then again they are the Canadian Batali and Flay
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I'm so glad that Sweet Genius is back. It's so much more cheerful and positive than all of those other Food Network challenge shows. Introducing bacon as the mandatory ingredient right after doing the profile on the vegetarian lady was amazing.
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Frot Lesnar posted:Yes no to what exactly? I think he did a show like this previously in England that I remember because he hired one of the inmates for his restaurant when he got out. sorry, the idea with the yes/no was is it worth my time or not
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Ted Allen just needs to force his way onto a second season, if it happens, for Cuisine Culture---he could be a drunken foil to Ashley James or something. That'll handle the high end and then some---found out about so many tasty things I was able to track down thanks to that show and the wonderfully over the top porno-like intro/theme.
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dude789 posted:I'm so glad that Sweet Genius is back. It's so much more cheerful and positive than all of those other Food Network challenge shows. Introducing bacon as the mandatory ingredient right after doing the profile on the vegetarian lady was amazing. I switched over to Food Network at some point last night and saw a woman in a clown costume staring into the camera and said 'oh Sweet Genius is back'. The bacon thing isn't quite as bad as when they had rum or some other spirit as an ingredient on Chopped for a recovering alcoholic.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:Ted Allen just needs to force his way onto a second season, if it happens, for Cuisine Culture---he could be a drunken foil to Ashley James or something. That'll handle the high end and then some---found out about so many tasty things I was able to track down thanks to that show and the wonderfully over the top porno-like intro/theme. He should have always been the floor guy or a second commentator on Iron Chef. I think he did that on the Hawaiian military episode and it was really cool. We picked up some issue of Consumer Reports on kitchens and it had an article on Ted and his partner's kitchen and it is awesome.
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gyrobot posted:At least we can trust Sandra on alcohol, then again. The stuff she drink may just destroys all taste buds I get the feeling that availability > quality when it comes to Sandra's preference with liquor. Sure, she would always prefer to put Grey Goose in her semi-homemade Penne alla Vodka, but it wouldn't rustle her feathers much if she had to dip into her emergency plain wrap 1.75l reserve. She must have a good plastic surgeon, I don't see any signs of a bloated face or nose. Glitterbomber posted:If you don't like Sno-Balls you're a bad person, it's like those tests they do to find undercover aliens. Oh poo poo, I must be a cylon.  Having said that, I fully support those that partake in odd treats, I used to be very fond of Hostess products including the Honey Buns and Turnovers. And the chalky donuts
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CrushedWill posted:I get the feeling that availability > quality when it comes to Sandra's preference with liquor. Sure, she would always prefer to put Grey Goose in her semi-homemade Penne alla Vodka, but it wouldn't rustle her feathers much if she had to dip into her emergency plain wrap 1.75l reserve. She must have a good plastic surgeon, I don't see any signs of a bloated face or nose. Speaking of booze travel shows, I still fondly remember the Thirsty Traveler
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axleblaze posted:Cooking Channel reminds me alot of MTV2. It was launched when the original network realized it wasn't doing the thing they found the network to do. Slowly they realized they stopped doing that because it was getting bad rating so they just started rerunning stuff from the other network and eventually they became the same thing. Cooking Channel isn't fully far gone yet but you can see it slowly going in that direction. I highly recommend Create TV. It has shows featuring real chefs doing cheffy things. Jacques Pepin, Ming Tsai, Hubert Keller, and Jon Besh to name a few. I have turned Food Network and The Cooking Channel off completely for Create, save Sweet Genius. That is the best Food Network show period.
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Doomsday Jesus posted:I highly recommend Create TV. It has shows featuring real chefs doing cheffy things. Jacques Pepin, Ming Tsai, Hubert Keller, and Jon Besh to name a few. I have turned Food Network and The Cooking Channel off completely for Create, save Sweet Genius. That is the best Food Network show period. But does Create still have Steven Raichlen? I can't stand him at all. Lydia Bastianich is pretty awesome though. The abosulte best Italian cook I've seen on television.
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Red Warrior posted:I switched over to Food Network at some point last night and saw a woman in a clown costume staring into the camera and said 'oh Sweet Genius is back'. Yeah, that booze in the basket was downright cruel. Dude couldn't even taste what he was cooking with it, unless he wanted to risk falling off the wagon for a television game show. Absolute fuckers, those Chopped producers.
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Arms_Akimbo posted:Yeah, that booze in the basket was downright cruel. Dude couldn't even taste what he was cooking with it, unless he wanted to risk falling off the wagon for a television game show. Absolute fuckers, those Chopped producers. Thing is nowadays, Bacon isn't such a bad thing since almost everyone now has a peanut allergy and we demand something that can both savory, sweet and crunchy as a topping.
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Glitterbomber posted:Wait No Reservations has fans still? Like don't get me wrong I respect Bourdain as a professional and all but I thought by now most people had caught on No Reservation was the 'smug white guy talks down to other nations from a luxury hotel'show. Yeah, I'll give you the wistful attempts at poetic summarizing at the end and Boardain's stale drug/dick joke references, but what you describes is pretty much the exact show that No Reservations strives not to be. I can't fathom how you think that description matches the show's content at all. What was the last episode you watched? Happy_Misanthrope fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Oct 21, 2012 |
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I've seen every episode and he has never talked down to any place he visited. Except for New York but that's ok since that's his home.
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Arms_Akimbo posted:Yeah, that booze in the basket was downright cruel. Dude couldn't even taste what he was cooking with it, unless he wanted to risk falling off the wagon for a television game show. Absolute fuckers, those Chopped producers. Adding to this, I distinctly remember an episode where one of the mandatory ingredients was some kind of pork product when one of the contestants was Islamic, and they've given shellfish to people with allergies more than once. It's hard to tell whether the producers are dicks or if they just don't bother to do the most basic research.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Adding to this, I distinctly remember an episode where one of the mandatory ingredients was some kind of pork product when one of the contestants was Islamic, and they've given shellfish to people with allergies more than once. It's hard to tell whether the producers are dicks or if they just don't bother to do the most basic research. I would lean more towards them not doing research because otherwise I would say I am allergic to a bunch of weird things just to make sure they don't show up in the basket.
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Frot Lesnar posted:I would lean more towards them not doing research because otherwise I would say I am allergic to a bunch of weird things just to make sure they don't show up in the basket. But then your basket would be filled with live bees.
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