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CrunchyTaco
Dec 25, 2007

gently caress this game is fun. Marines rule, aliens drool :smug:

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CheeseSpawn
Sep 15, 2004
Doctor Rope
Ugh, I was in a game where like 3-4 ppl on aliens quit because marines had one exo. Good drat rooks

CrunchyTaco
Dec 25, 2007

CheeseSpawn posted:

Ugh, I was in a game where like 3-4 ppl on aliens quit because marines had one exo. Good drat rooks

This game is in the same universe of X-Com wherein rookies are useless and required in every mission. Sometimes rookies even panic in this game too and try to sprint away from Skulks!

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

e: never mind, fixed it

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Nov 2, 2012

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

CrunchyTaco posted:

This game is in the same universe of X-Com wherein rookies are useless and required in every mission. Sometimes rookies even panic in this game too and try to sprint away from Skulks!
If FF was on my panic sprays would mean I would have more marine kills than alien.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Insert name here posted:

If FF was on my panic sprays would mean I would have more marine kills than alien.

So many of my squadmates would have shotgun sized holes in their backs. Sorry guys!

Safari Disco Lion
Jul 21, 2011

Boss, if they make us find seven lost crystals, I'm quitting.

Did my first two games today. Oh dear god I can't see anything what's going on. :stare: First I played as the aliens and they're so freakishly fast that it's hard to see what's going on when I'm trying to bite someone's rear end. Then as a marine, the skulks are so fast that when they're up on me I have no hope at ALL of hitting them.

This game is fun but jesus poo poo, and I played Tribes.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM
gently caress you guys, now I have to spend 500 and build a budget gaming PC :unsmith:

Bloodmobile
Jun 15, 2012

Safari Disco Lion posted:

Did my first two games today. Oh dear god I can't see anything what's going on. :stare: First I played as the aliens and they're so freakishly fast that it's hard to see what's going on when I'm trying to bite someone's rear end. Then as a marine, the skulks are so fast that when they're up on me I have no hope at ALL of hitting them.

This game is fun but jesus poo poo, and I played Tribes.

If it feels faster than tribes you probably either get poor framerates or have a sluggish mouse sensitivity. Skulks are fast and all but they don't move at 300+km/h.

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
I'm having trouble joining servers; I keep trying to join servers with 1 slot remaining only to be told the server is full, even if the server is not full during my next refresh of the list.

Safari Disco Lion
Jul 21, 2011

Boss, if they make us find seven lost crystals, I'm quitting.

Bloodmobile posted:

If it feels faster than tribes you probably either get poor framerates or have a sluggish mouse sensitivity. Skulks are fast and all but they don't move at 300+km/h.

Eh, my mouse speed and framerate are fine. Tribes just takes place in huge, open maps with very few small corridors and rooms, so you almost never run right passed someone very close to you at speed and have to flail around to find them. In NS2 that's basically all that happens. I'm certainly not used to the game yet at all, but this feels like a much steeper learning curve.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

Safari Disco Lion posted:

Eh, my mouse speed and framerate are fine. Tribes just takes place in huge, open maps with very few small corridors and rooms, so you almost never run right passed someone very close to you at speed and have to flail around to find them. In NS2 that's basically all that happens. I'm certainly not used to the game yet at all, but this feels like a much steeper learning curve.
It does have a bit of a steeper learning curve at least in terms of complexity (you don't have to learn to ski or time your shots with momentum, though). But the aliens are not anywhere near as fast as the enemies in Tribes. It might feel like they're faster because, like you said, they pass close by, but they're much, much, much slower.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




Patch is out! Restart steam or verify cache to get it. Big deal: memory optimizations, crash fixes.

Natural Selection 2 Build 228 is now live on Steam. This patch fixes crash issues some players are experiencing, especially those during the "pre-caching" phase of connecting to a server. If you do experience a crash in NS2, please submit the crash report via the displayed dialog; this information is very useful for us to fix any problems quickly.

Fix
- Fixed issue where the game would run out of memory on 32-bit Windows.
- Fixed bug where unicode characters could not be deleted in text inputs.
- The server browser scroll bar now resets when the menu is displayed and when the "Refresh" button is pressed.
- Fixed server crash caused by getting a new ability in the same frame an Alien was destroyed.
- Reduced bloom flicker (thanks slime!)
- Reduced visual noise when ambient occlusion was enabled.

Improvement
- Added server list filter option to display favorites only.
- Added option to disable camera animations.
- Disabled automatic sorting of server list during refreshing.

Optimization
- Reduced client and server memory usage by 200-400 MB

speng31b
May 8, 2010

CrunchyTaco posted:

This game is in the same universe of X-Com wherein rookies are useless and required in every mission. Sometimes rookies even panic in this game too and try to sprint away from Skulks!

Hey, sprinting away from aliens is occasionally useful. Dumb aliens will hone in on you with a singleminded fixation, and if you time the sprint properly it's easy to lead them into your teammates' line of fire.

Bloodmobile posted:

If it feels faster than tribes you probably either get poor framerates or have a sluggish mouse sensitivity. Skulks are fast and all but they don't move at 300+km/h.

This game is "faster" than Tribes in a way that's totally not comparable in terms of km/h. It's twitch speed. Twitch speed helps a lot in Tribes but it's not the whole game, in NS2 it pretty much is.

speng31b fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Nov 2, 2012

BlueDestiny
Jun 18, 2011

Mega deal with it

My experience on dealing with skulks is to stagger your group of marines. It's much easier to shoot a skulk circling your buddy at the other end of the hall than right at your own feet if everyone clumps up.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011

octoroon posted:

Twitch speed helps a lot in Tribes but it's not the whole game, in NS2 it pretty much is.

Yeah there's not a whole lot of times in Tribes like in NS2 where you're rapidly flipping your view around forward and backward, up and down, left and right to kill that skulk nipping at you.

NS2 would be hilarious with a gamepad, also.

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!

Why has everyone been talking about NS and Tribes like they are the same? There's nothing at all a like between the two. Tribes is all about momentum and travel time on your shots. NS is about squad tactics and out maneuvering the enemy team.

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008

The game is a little interesting right now. Technically marines should win most of the time seeing as they are easier to play and are much stronger when the game goes above a 6v6, which most servers do. However, you have a very low chance of getting a decent comm and an equally low chance of getting teammates that follow your orders as comm so it sort of balances out in a way.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

randombattle posted:

Why has everyone been talking about NS and Tribes like they are the same? There's nothing at all a like between the two. Tribes is all about momentum and travel time on your shots. NS is about squad tactics and out maneuvering the enemy team.

Noone at all is comparing them as if they're similar, we're just responding to an anecdote that someone mentioned about NS2 being "too fast for them" even though they are used to Tribes, which is well-known for being one of the "fastest" FPSes. We all know that Tribes and NS2 are entirely dissimilar.

But if we're in that vein, Tribes is really a little bit of a mishmash of everything. Most of the core skills you see are related to balancing your relative frame of reference with that of an enemy and then "leading," but with flag D oftentimes you are standing stock still while enemies zoom at you 200+ km/h and some NS2-style twitch speed does come into play there, and even some sniping on occasion. Tribes is kind of the omni-FPS.

speng31b fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Nov 2, 2012

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.
A tip for those of you having trouble aiming at the little buggers, lower your mouse sensitivity.

Chances are you have it too high to begin with, even if you think you're comfortable with what you're used to. FPS twitch games need low sens.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010
So whats the alien counter to Exos?

In all the games I've been in recently, it seems to go Assault Rifle vs Skulks, Shotgun vs Flyers/Gorges/Lurks, then Exos vs Skulks since all the aliens used up their resources in the Shotgun phase, except for the one decent/good player on alien side who didn't do much all game, but is now the sole Onos.

It really seems like a bad play in midgame can really screw the alien game, since if everyone blew their resources early, then died, they'll have a tough time getting them back, and if it happens teamwide, everyone is suddenly at a severe disadvantage. Meanwhile Marines can make do with the Assault Rifle even up to Onos, and they seem to get resources just by existing.

Line Feed
Sep 7, 2012

Seeds taste better with friends.

Gorges! The Gorge's Bile Bomb is effective not only against buildings, but against Exosuits as well! With a good Gorge backing up a pack of Skulks I think you should be able to take on an Exosuit. I think it may also be a good idea for some Skulks or maybe even a Fade to focus on the Marines accompanying the Exosuit, as they probably have Welders and will simply repair any damage done to it.

BlueDestiny
Jun 18, 2011

Mega deal with it

A lone exo is horribly vulnerable to one skulk anklebiting it, especially if it doesn't have fully upgraded armor. An exo train should be bilebombed and skulkrushed.

Powerstone
May 30, 2010

What the fuck is this?
Lerks and skulks destroy exo suits.

Its hard for someone in a exo suit to even notice a skulk munching on them, much less a lerk hiding in the ceiling taking them apart with spikes.

And they have a near impossible time hitting a skulk that is doing circles around their feet.

whiskas
May 30, 2005
When the marine commander initiates a beacon, it will only beacon non-exo players back to base, leaving exo's alone without support. If you see an exo train coming, go chomp on the marine base until they beacon, then rush the exo's.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011

whiskas posted:

When the marine commander initiates a beacon, it will only beacon non-exo players back to base

Oh now that's just wrong.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

Vertigus posted:

Oh now that's just wrong.
Marines: We're right behind you, buddy! Let's kick some alien rear end! :black101:
*bacon*
Exo: Uh, guys? Hey, guys? Where did everyone go? I think I hear a Skulk. :ohdear:

Lady Morgaga
Aug 27, 2012

by Smythe

teh_Broseph posted:

I'll throw my hat in the ring for a 4 pack if you or anyone else are still interested? Figured I'd be sticking with my same ol' games but I'm starting to hanker for something new, and this is winning out for how the chatter sounds vs. what else I've been looking at.

I will join this 4-pack if it is still a possibility.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198000346425

Lady Morgaga fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Nov 2, 2012

Officer Sandvich
Feb 14, 2010
Played my first games today. Had no idea what was going on, didn't really matter because the aliens got stomped first couple of games. Then we got our poo poo together and came back from having one hive to rolling them with 4 onos :black101:

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
Is there a way to bind the minimap key to be a toggle rather than hold? I find myself having it up pretty much all the time I'm not in combat.

CrunchyTaco
Dec 25, 2007

TychoCelchuuu posted:

Marines: We're right behind you, buddy! Let's kick some alien rear end! :black101:
*bacon*
Exo: Uh, guys? Hey, guys? Where did everyone go? I think I hear a Skulk. :ohdear:

The funnest moments are when the marines sprint back to the dead exos only to have a prison-style 8 on 8 prison-style cagematch with a bunch of low-tech marines fighting low-tech aliens.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



chocolateTHUNDER posted:

gently caress you guys, now I have to spend 500 and build a budget gaming PC :unsmith:

Budget? Depending on what you need to upgrade you'll be able to get a sweet rig for that price. I'll gift you the game to soften the blow.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

Liku posted:

Budget? Depending on what you need to upgrade you'll be able to get a sweet rig for that price. I'll gift you the game to soften the blow.

I actually don't even have a desktop PC right now, so I won't be able to upgrade anything :v:

And you don't have to gift my a copy. I figure after spending $500-600, a $40 game isn't really much :v:

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

I actually don't even have a desktop PC right now, so I won't be able to upgrade anything :v:

And you don't have to gift my a copy. I figure after spending $500-600, a $40 game isn't really much :v:
Well I've got good news, it's a $25 game.

novamute
Jul 5, 2006

o o o

Line Feed posted:

Gorges! The Gorge's Bile Bomb is effective not only against buildings, but against Exosuits as well! With a good Gorge backing up a pack of Skulks I think you should be able to take on an Exosuit. I think it may also be a good idea for some Skulks or maybe even a Fade to focus on the Marines accompanying the Exosuit, as they probably have Welders and will simply repair any damage done to it.

The gorge is so slow that any decent exo is going to chew him up as soon as you peek around the corner to bomb. I haven't had much trouble taking out one or two exos as a skulk as long as you get them separated from any supporting marines.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

novamute posted:

The gorge is so slow that any decent exo is going to chew him up as soon as you peek around the corner to bomb. I haven't had much trouble taking out one or two exos as a skulk as long as you get them separated from any supporting marines.

Don't peek. Bile bombs fire in an arc so hide behind a crate and nail him from outside LOS.

afkmacro
Mar 29, 2009



Why is it so much easier to earn personal resource as a marine? Is that intended?

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.
drat that was fun. Played my first game as commander and we won! It's hectic but really fun and we most likely won because my whole team was very helpful.

CheeseSpawn
Sep 15, 2004
Doctor Rope
I think it's critical to have lerk spores tailing marines on exo repair duty. That'll force the escort marines to retreat unless the cmdr drop medpacks like a mad man. Then you spore some more then rush retreating exo. Two or more? I think umbra might help but I've yet to see an alien cmdr get it and try it with the lerk.

Or what whiskas said and try to hit and run them down.

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Lammy!
Jul 3, 2004

WHAT TIME IS IT!?
Spores are underutilized in general. Nothing sends marines into a panic quicker than being surrounded by lerk gas.

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