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Are you getting the Wii U? This poll is closed. |
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9031 | 65.25% |
| No |
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1191 | 8.60% |
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808 | 5.84% |
| I'm an idiot |
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460 | 3.32% |
| Waluigi |
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1603 | 11.58% |
| Waa |
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748 | 5.40% |
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If you buy a physical game from retail, can you "install" it, 360-style, to your internal drive or USB HDD?
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Nov 14, 2012 11:52
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That hasn't been mentioned as a feature at all, so I'm guessing no. It's most likely like the 3DS, where you can only have a retail game installed if you downloaded it digitally.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:04
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New Nintendo Direct out of nowhere! (Japanese) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6q8sNhm4uM&feature=plcp Covers the day-one update, internal/external storage, etc.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:17
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 The next console war has already been won.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:26
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Did they seriously just use a glass of marbles to represent system storage?
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Nov 14, 2012 12:31
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Katana Gomai posted:Did they seriously just use a glass of marbles to represent system storage? That part was awesome, although I totally wanted them to dump the pink one in the small glass. Wish I could understand this other than the stupid translated captions, it sounds like stuff I want to know.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:33
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I don't think anyone actually watching these videos needs the concept of storage capacity explained, but the visual is fun! EDIT: I'm curious about the warning for drives powered solely by USB. I couldn't tell if the warning was only applicable to Y-cables, or all such drives. Supercar Gautier fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Nov 14, 2012 |
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Nov 14, 2012 12:36
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So unless I misunderstood these gibberish captions it sounds like once you use the external hard drive with the Wii U it can't be used with PC? At least I'm guessing thats what http://puu.sh/1q5ev means.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:39
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For anyone wondering what was said about VC on the Gamepad, he basically just said that people won't be able to play Wii/WiiWare/Wii VC stuff on Gamepad and that they apologise for not being able to add that feature, but that they'll be doing Wii U VC and those games definitely will be playable on the Gamepad. No mention of free or paid updates or anything else.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:41
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Supercar Gautier posted:I don't think anyone actually watching these videos needs the concept of storage capacity explained, but the visual is fun! Drives with external power sources definitely will work. Drives without external power sources may or may not work depending on the quality of the particular drive; use a Y-cable for optimum performance. It's basically the same deal as with soft-modded Wiis, from the sounds of things.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:44
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:No mention of free or paid updates or anything else. Like they'd ever update anything for free. I wish people would just stop buying the same loving game for 5-15€ yet again for, like, one generation so Nintendo would not get away with this poo poo anymore.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:46
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I don't think there's a single VC game from Nintendo or anyone else that's 15€. EDIT: oh, and when the Wii Internet Browser went from paid to free they gave everyone who bought it a VC game of equal value.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:48
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OK so it's 12€ like that makes a difference. Actually let's include re-releases on carts/disks which went for 20-30€ just because.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:50
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:I don't think there's a single VC game from Nintendo or anyone else that's 15€. Don't forget the Ambassador Program the 3DS got when that got its big price drop.
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Nov 14, 2012 12:52
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The fact that it's a feature they apparently already want to implement, but can't due to technical limitations, suggests that they might be as friendly about future upgrades as they were with the ambassador deal. We'll see, I guess.
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Nov 14, 2012 13:03
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Katana Gomai posted:OK so it's 12€ like that makes a difference. Actually let's include re-releases on carts/disks which went for 20-30€ just because. I don't think 12 whatevers is an unreasonable price for the few games that did cost that much (especially because they're 50% more expensive here in Australia for absolutely no reason... I wish we got 'em that cheap). Anyway, the 3DS VC has variable pricing, so they're not charging flat prices for every game on a certain system regardless of content/quality.
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Nov 14, 2012 13:06
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kojicolnair posted:So unless I misunderstood these gibberish captions it sounds like once you use the external hard drive with the Wii U it can't be used with PC? At least I'm guessing thats what http://puu.sh/1q5ev means. That is what it's saying. I can understand the reasoning behind it but that's a bit harsh isn't it? At least it's a good way to prevent piracy.
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Nov 14, 2012 14:29
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Gamestop asked me yesterday if I wanted to preorder a 320gb drive for 79.99. It was really hard to not laugh.(I got a TBdrive from Amazon for less) The clerk also noticed I hadn't pre ordered Mario, and when I said I was going to download it direct from Nintendo she looked very annoyed. I'm buying like $600 worth of stuff at launch from you guys, cut me some slack! greatn fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Nov 14, 2012 |
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Nov 14, 2012 14:33
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:For anyone wondering what was said about VC on the Gamepad, he basically just said that people won't be able to play Wii/WiiWare/Wii VC stuff on Gamepad and that they apologise for not being able to add that feature, but that they'll be doing Wii U VC and those games definitely will be playable on the Gamepad. No mention of free or paid updates or anything else. So, they're giving the Wii U its own VC then? Hopefully they won't take so long to roll stuff out for it, esepcially with all the stuff the Wii already got. They're probably not going to let people have what they got on the Wii free on the Wii U because Nintendo, honestly. And Nintendo presenters/officials/execs staring at fruit is something I'm not sure I'll get tired of.
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Nov 14, 2012 14:53
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From that video, hard to tell but is it saying for external usb powered portable hard drives I'll need a Y-cable? I'm not really familiar with external hard drives, I bought my first one a month ago and haven't even opened it. Is it likely going to come with such a cable or is that something that can be picked up in any Office Depot?
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Nov 14, 2012 15:23
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greatn posted:From that video, hard to tell but is it saying for external usb powered portable hard drives I'll need a Y-cable? I'm not really familiar with external hard drives, I bought my first one a month ago and haven't even opened it. Is it likely going to come with such a cable or is that something that can be picked up in any Office Depot? Some external hard drives run fine on a single cable; on the Wii U, that will do. Some external drives need y-cables on PC and those will need y-cables on Wii U; that will also work. Some external drives have dedicated power supplies; these will ALSO work on Wii U.
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Nov 14, 2012 15:28
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The Introvert posted:So, they're giving the Wii U its own VC then? Hopefully they won't take so long to roll stuff out for it, esepcially with all the stuff the Wii already got. They're probably not going to let people have what they got on the Wii free on the Wii U because Nintendo, honestly. You can transfer all your Wii stuff and use it in Wii mode.
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Nov 14, 2012 15:36
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So, wait, to use a hard drive on the U, it needs to be formatted for the U and then can't be used on a PC?
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Nov 14, 2012 15:38
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xwonderboyx posted:You can transfer all your Wii stuff and use it in Wii mode. Yes, but if they release updated versions on U's virtual console that are compatible with gamepad, it would be nice (though unlikely) if those were free to people who already bought the wii version.
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Nov 14, 2012 15:40
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xwonderboyx posted:You can transfer all your Wii stuff and use it in Wii mode. I know that, but I don't actually have any VC/WiiWare stuff for my Wii. I'm hoping that I can just skip the Wii mode stuff entirely and get the same VC stuff with added Gamepad support or something, else I'll just get it all on the Wii before getting the Wii U and transferring it over.
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Nov 14, 2012 15:58
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Bobnumerotres posted:So, wait, to use a hard drive on the U, it needs to be formatted for the U and then can't be used on a PC? If it's anything like playing Wii games off an external drive, you need to create a partition on your hard drive to install to. The Wii used something called WBFS format and needed its own partition to install and play games from. Now granted, this was all done through homebrew programs, so I don't know how much those programs did on the inside to help this all along. Regardless, once a partition was WBFS formatted, a computer couldn't recognize it. Hence creating the partition, leaving you with a section of the drive that can still be accessed by a computer.
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Nov 14, 2012 16:11
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FPzero posted:If it's anything like playing Wii games off an external drive, you need to create a partition on your hard drive to install to. The Wii used something called WBFS format and needed its own partition to install and play games from. Now granted, this was all done through homebrew programs, so I don't know how much those programs did on the inside to help this all along. Hopefully this is an easy process..I could create a 200GB partition just for the WiiU or something like that.
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Nov 14, 2012 16:12
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Bobnumerotres posted:So, wait, to use a hard drive on the U, it needs to be formatted for the U and then can't be used on a PC? This sounds about right to me. One should probably plan on dedicating a hard drive to the U.
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Nov 14, 2012 16:14
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FPzero posted:If it's anything like playing Wii games off an external drive, you need to create a partition on your hard drive to install to. The Wii used something called WBFS format and needed its own partition to install and play games from. Now granted, this was all done through homebrew programs, so I don't know how much those programs did on the inside to help this all along. The WBFS limitation was removed, FAT32 and NTFS both work now. Anyways, likely the reason behind this is much like how the internal hd works on PS3. I'm going to guess for security reasons the hard drive data will be entirely encrypted to a certificate unique to each console to reduce the risk of people snatching data off it.
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Nov 14, 2012 16:24
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flyboi posted:The WBFS limitation was removed, FAT32 and NTFS both work now. Anyways, likely the reason behind this is much like how the internal hd works on PS3. I'm going to guess for security reasons the hard drive data will be entirely encrypted to a certificate unique to each console to reduce the risk of people snatching data off it. Ah nice to know. It's been years since I formatted the drive so I didn't know about this.
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Nov 14, 2012 16:31
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greatn posted:From that video, hard to tell but is it saying for external usb powered portable hard drives I'll need a Y-cable? I'm not really familiar with external hard drives, I bought my first one a month ago and haven't even opened it. Is it likely going to come with such a cable or is that something that can be picked up in any Office Depot? HDDs that draw power from USB rated higher than USB 2.0 draw too much power, that's why it needs a Y-cable going to Wii U's two USB 2.0 ports. Powered HDDs that draw power from a wall socket, generator, etc., need only one Wii U USB connection. Doug Dinsdale fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Nov 14, 2012 |
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Nov 14, 2012 17:03
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Doug Dinsdale posted:HDDs that draw power from USB rated higher than USB 2.0 draw too much power, that's why it needs a Y-cable going to two Wii U's two USB 2.0 ports. I assume I can find such a cable at Staples quite easily? My Western Digital is rated for Usb 3.0 but compatible with 2.0
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Nov 14, 2012 17:07
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Doug Dinsdale posted:HDDs that draw power from USB rated higher than USB 2.0 draw too much power, that's why it needs a Y-cable going to two Wii U's two USB 2.0 ports. So basically a USB 3.0 is going to need a Y-Cable, otherwise you're good.
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Nov 14, 2012 17:17
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greatn posted:I assume I can find such a cable at Staples quite easily? My Western Digital is rated for Usb 3.0 but compatible with 2.0 Get one from monoprice.com and save yourself $20. Edit: Here's one for $.90. I'm assuming its a mini 5 pin on the other end that you need. Check your drive specs. plasticbugs fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Nov 14, 2012 |
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Nov 14, 2012 17:38
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A few pages late but I have to say the gamepad charging is great news. The worst thing is when my ps3 controller goes dead and I have to sit 6feet away from a bigscreen. Question. Does the deluxe edition have noncradle charging capabilities? Because a cradle kind of negates the charge while playing at a proper distance goodness.
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Nov 14, 2012 17:40
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Bombadilillo posted:A few pages late but I have to say the gamepad charging is great news. The worst thing is when my ps3 controller goes dead and I have to sit 6feet away from a bigscreen. Yeah, it comes with a cradle and the cable.
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Nov 14, 2012 17:43
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They have a demo unit up at my local target store. No games or anything, but at least it had a working controller I could play around with. It's pretty drat light and I don't think I'd have a problem holding it for a while and playing a game.
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Nov 14, 2012 17:48
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Bombadilillo posted:A few pages late but I have to say the gamepad charging is great news. The worst thing is when my ps3 controller goes dead and I have to sit 6feet away from a bigscreen. You could buy a USB wallplug adaptor for $0.50 and sit 6 feet away from an outlet instead.
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Nov 14, 2012 18:21
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Katana Gomai posted:You could buy a USB wallplug adaptor for $0.50 and sit 6 feet away from an outlet instead. Or any other device with an open USB port, really. I charge my PS3 controllers with my laptop while playing on the PS3. It's only supplying power, so plug it into whatever.
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Nov 14, 2012 18:27
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Dell is selling Wii U Deluxe bundle pre orders - $459.99 with Madden and Just Dance. Story http://www.polygon.com/2012/11/14/3645088/dell-wii-u-hardware-software Dell http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A6525896 I'd be all over that if it weren't for the stupid bundle. No interest at all in those 2 games. Doh.
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