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CommieGIR posted:The Israeli's have let slip the crowing roosters of war! The one redeeming part of the chat window is RoosterTalktm
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Lord Seo posted:I had http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hanissalamah running in the background and those huge explosions came out of nowhere. It was pretty startling. Now it's just the call to morning prayer. There's just something kind of surreal about people going about their daily routines when it's punctuated by the sounds of stuff exploding.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:32
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Charliegrs posted:I guess the building next to Harry Fears building just got hit... In the green zone for international journalists, no less. VVVV 
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Nov 15, 2012 03:33
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I really don't get it. It seems so obvious to a retard like me - Israelis are assholes, Palestinians are worse. Palestinians are stupider, because they are bigger but weaker assholes, and keep getting killed. Weaker is not coextensive with nobler. One side uses guided weapons, often recklessly, admitted, in an obvious attempt to reduce civilian casualties. The other side brainwashes their own kids that it's great to kill themselves, so long as they kill a bunch of the other side's kids too. There's equivalence? The moral insanity is, well, insane.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:34
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I hope there isnt a new wave of suicide bombings in Israel after all of this. After the IDF killed that senior Hamas guy yesterday it seems like anything is possible now. Its been quite a while since any suicide bombs have gone off in Israel...
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Nov 15, 2012 03:35
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I hope you never stop posting
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Nov 15, 2012 03:36
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GWBBQ posted:The explosions are constant now, it's a continuous rumble with swells and lulls. A lot of that is just wind noise btw. I've been watching the same stream for a few hours.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:36
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Hey shithedd... This is the face of Gaza right now. You can take your childlike obsession with cool 'secular' Israelis in neat headgear with kickin' rad military toys killing off the evil Muslims by the dozens and cram it right up your rear end. Israel has, for the past four years, deliberately starved a group of people the population of my hometown for no good reason after killing hundreds of them in a two-month long torrent of war crimes. Israel does not and will never tolerate coexistence with the Palestinians. It has proved it time and again since Oslo. Until its fangs are pulled and the flow of money into it from America gets shut off, Israel will not stop massacring and degrading the people of the West Bank and Gaza. It is deliberately attempting to ethnically cleanse the West Bank through settlements, legal and illegal. It is deliberately attempting to destroy Palestinian culture and history through the destruction of historical sites in the West Bank. It continues to maintain an apartheid state and routinely treats Israeli Arabs as second-class citizens. Your ongoing worship of this allegedly liberal ostensibly secular colonial settler state turns my stomach while eleven month old children are being burned to death by IDF weapons. If you had any decency, any heart whatsoever you'd not be cheerleading the IDF but deploring them.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:36
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GWBBQ posted:The explosions are constant now, it's a continuous rumble with swells and lulls. I keep hearing some sort of prop driven aircraft flying around, at least a couple of them...
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Nov 15, 2012 03:37
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It's going around on tumblr right now that people from Gaza are tweeting Israel is announcing it's about to cut off all communications to Gaza. I can't confirm, but if Israel is about to do so, that is definitely not a good sign.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:37
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CommieGIR posted:I keep hearing some sort of prop driven aircraft flying around, at least a couple of them... Drones, probably.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:39
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Zeroisanumber posted:Drones, probably. Massive calls of 'Allahu Ackbar' from the mosques now. Its defeaning.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:39
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A brief reminder that Avigdor Lieberman has gone on record stating that if the Jewish identity of Israel ever comes into question through the democratic process that it's entirely legitimate to abolish the democratic process. But yeah, it's the Palestinians who are the real bad guys here!
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Nov 15, 2012 03:39
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CommieGIR posted:I keep hearing some sort of prop driven aircraft flying around, at least a couple of them... Yeah, they'd have drones up to watch known targets, see where equipment is being moved, where rockets are fired from, etc. They'll also want video footage because (as the cheerleaders from both sides here quite clearly show) anything Israel/Palestine related turns into as much a media affair as military and we can expect both side's propaganda machines to kick in. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Nov 15, 2012 |
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Nov 15, 2012 03:40
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I know it was already posted but everyone should be watching the Harry Fear stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/operation-pillar-of-cloud
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Nov 15, 2012 03:41
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Must Love Dogs posted:This is the face of Gaza right now. You can take your childlike obsession with cool 'secular' Israelis in neat headgear with kickin' rad military toys killing off the evil Muslims by the dozens and cram it right up your rear end. Israel has, for the past four years, deliberately starved a group of people the population of my hometown for no good reason after killing hundreds of them in a two-month long torrent of war crimes. Well, I can't stand religious Israelis. I have genuine sympathy for you if you're a refugee. quote:Israel does not and will never tolerate coexistence with the Palestinians. It has proved it time and again since Oslo. Until its fangs are pulled and the flow of money into it from America gets shut off, Israel will not stop massacring and degrading the people of the West Bank and Gaza. It is deliberately attempting to ethnically cleanse the West Bank through settlements, legal and illegal. It is deliberately attempting to destroy Palestinian culture and history through the destruction of historical sites in the West Bank. It continues to maintain an apartheid state and routinely treats Israeli Arabs as second-class citizens. Pure cant here. quote:Your ongoing worship of this allegedly liberal ostensibly secular colonial settler state turns my stomach while eleven month old children are being burned to death by IDF weapons. If you had any decency, any heart whatsoever you'd not be cheerleading the IDF but deploring them. I don't particularly even like Israel as a state, despite it claiming to be my homeland. Your attribution of this 'worship' to me is as stupid as me attributing zealous adherence to Islam to you, since you clearly are not Israeli. Don't be an idiot.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:42
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Is there a particular reason why things are suddenly intensifying?
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Nov 15, 2012 03:43
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Rinkles posted:Is there a particular reason why things are suddenly intensifying? Most people seem to think it's political maneuvering before the upcoming Israeli election. Israel says it's to defend themselves.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:45
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Because Obama cock-blocked an Israeli attack on Iran?
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Nov 15, 2012 03:46
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Rinkles posted:Is there a particular reason why things are suddenly intensifying? I think theres been an increase in the amount of rockets being fired into Israel from Gaza lately. And like others have said there is probably a strong political element to this as well. Its sad but its probably true.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:46
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Rinkles posted:Is there a particular reason why things are suddenly intensifying? Possibly pressure from Syria/Iran to draw Israel into a war, which could strengthen Assad's position. Other than that it's the usual tit-for-tat escalation game between the usual parties.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:47
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You said something about Israel attempting to minimize casualties in its military deployments. This was from four years ago during Cast Lead. Clearly attempting to minimize civilian casualties here!  They must be using their precision white phosphorous bombs! What you call pure cant is loving fact. There are three year old children that have more moral awareness than you do.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:48
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So, this is going be just like the '08 invasion, right? It's not going to escalate into anything bigger, the Israeli will just go home after killing enough dudes?
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Nov 15, 2012 03:48
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A student posted:Because Obama cock-blocked an Israeli attack on Iran? I've said it a million times, but Israel doesn't have the ability to strike Iran effectively in any other way than it already has, via Stuxnet. Feel free to disregard this reminder in 15 minutes, post this again, and declare Victory. If the truth isn't on your side, just lie, son.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:49
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Warbadger posted:Possibly pressure from Syria/Iran to draw Israel into a war, which could strengthen Assad's position. Other than that it's the usual tit-for-tat escalation game between the usual parties. Last time I checked Hamas wasn't allied with Iran or Syria...
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Nov 15, 2012 03:49
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Crasscrab posted:Last time I checked Hamas wasn't allied with Iran or Syria... You might want to check again...
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Nov 15, 2012 03:51
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Crasscrab posted:Last time I checked Hamas wasn't allied with Iran or Syria... And Hamas isn't necessarily responsible for setting this trainwreck into motion.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:51
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Adrastus posted:So, this is going be just like the '08 invasion, right? It's not going to escalate into anything bigger, the Israeli will just go home after killing enough dudes? Difficult to say at the moment, but it seems to way to me at least. Still pretty sobering.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:52
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Must Love Dogs posted:You said something about Israel attempting to minimize casualties in its military deployments. Yep, I stand by it. If Israel didn't care about civilian casualties, it would have exterminated the Palestinians decades ago. For what reason do you propose that it hasn't? Please try to address the question, rather than run away. Toodle pip, ol' bean.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:52
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Rinkles posted:Is there a particular reason why things are suddenly intensifying? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2012 Start in October and start counting.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:52
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Warbadger posted:And Hamas isn't necessarily responsible for setting this trainwreck into motion.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:53
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Harry Fear just said there's an Israeli warship within about 400 meters of his apartment building
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Nov 15, 2012 03:54
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R. Mute posted:What do you mean when you say that Syria/Iran are pressuring Israel into a war, specifically? I'm sure Assad's not shedding too many tears about it, but how would he be able to get Israel to do anything? By having pretty much anybody he can shoot into Israel and pulling whatever strings he can in Gaza to stir the pot.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:55
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For geographic reference, Harry Fear is broadcasting from the white building on the East corner of this block in Gaza http://goo.gl/maps/Hv1ti He just came back from the roof and said there's an Israeli warship patrolling very close to the coast and he's going back up to get a video of it. I hope he's safe.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:56
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R. Mute posted:What do you mean when you say that Syria/Iran are pressuring Israel into a war, specifically? I'm sure Assad's not shedding too many tears about it, but how would he be able to get Israel to do anything? For real? Syria certainly isn't (they have enough on their plate), but are you really going to claim that Iran, particularly the great leftist Ahmadinejad, haven't been doing anything to antagonize the Israelis?
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Nov 15, 2012 03:56
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shitthedd posted:I don't particularly even like Israel as a state, despite it claiming to be my homeland. Friendly Factory posted:Harry Fear just said there's an Israeli warship within about 400 meters of his apartment building shitthedd posted:For real? Syria certainly isn't (they have enough on their plate), but are you really going to claim that Iran, particularly the great leftist Ahmadinejad, haven't been doing anything to antagonize the Israelis? Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Nov 15, 2012 |
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Nov 15, 2012 03:56
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shitthedd posted:Feel free to disregard this reminder in 15 minutes, post this again, and declare Victory. If the truth isn't on your side, just lie, son. That's the first time I've brought it up, and it was as a snide comment.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:57
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shitthedd posted:Yep, I stand by it. Because not giving a poo poo about civilian casualties is not the same thing as systemic extermination of the Palestinian people, you thundering buffoon. If it set on a course of the latter it would be absolutely hamstrung, but it can get away the former because, well, the US doesn't give a gently caress about dead Muslims and never has.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:57
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Haha this guy looks super professional when he confuses a Palestinian fishing boat with a warship. Edit: if those are actually fishermen then they are the dumbest fishermen in the world.
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Nov 15, 2012 03:58
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Oh, you're one of them. That explains it. What does this mean? Are you the kind of bigoted gently caress that considers immutable characteristic to be determinative of a person's worldview? Yeah, I'm Jewish, but not Israeli. If you don't like Jews, take a fat, dull knife up your rear end.
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