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Photography is more than just commissioned portraits, though. Nothing stopping you going out and taking images of people "as they really are", but I don't think it's that surprising that people mainly prefer flattering images of themselves.
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I put up an OkCupid profile Now I've just got a shot of me wearing a Russian army officer's hat against a hammer and sickle flag. I don't get nearly as many messages.
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There was also a study that showed pets get adopted 2-3x faster if they have 'pro' photos done.
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Pompous Rhombus posted:f/8 and don't get a date
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mr. mephistopheles posted:that's basically where photography is heading as a medium. People don't want images of themselves, they want images of who they want other people to think they are. squidflakes posted:a clean-cut in a suit with a point and shoot. BobTheCow posted:f/8 and be there alone 
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I've been browsing ebay for old watches and I was pretty blown away by the photography in this listing. I mean, it's pretty standard product photography, but compared to the poo poo direct flash point and shoot photos and stock images that comprise 99% of the listings on ebay, I'm pretty impressed and I wonder how much impact the photos make on the final sale price. You're right about how crappy most of the photography is. I'm also in the hunt for a specific vintage fixer-upper watch right now, and my leading candidate isn't getting any bids at all (on an otherwise desirable piece) because the photos are so poor. So I'm torn on whether or not to go with my gut instinct based on what I can see, or be suspicious if he's trying to hide something with the atrocious photography.
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Is anyone looking to make a 4x5 camera? As in 4 ft by 5 ft? I stopped by my local artsy recycle center today (Scrap in SF) and there was a massive bellow hiding in back. I kind of want it but I'm not even sure what I'd do with it or where I'd store it.
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TheLastManStanding posted:Is anyone looking to make a 4x5 camera? As in 4 ft by 5 ft? I stopped by my local artsy recycle center today (Scrap in SF) and there was a massive bellow hiding in back. I kind of want it but I'm not even sure what I'd do with it or where I'd store it. you could put one in the back of a panel van like this dude
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whereismyshoe posted:you could put one in the back of a panel van like this dude Interesting video, I hadn't see this one before. Pretty beautiful results, though not particularly eco-friendly.
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I'm wondering what kind of lens he uses. Custom? Hugeass vintage aviation lens?
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TheLastManStanding posted:Is anyone looking to make a 4x5 camera? As in 4 ft by 5 ft? I stopped by my local artsy recycle center today (Scrap in SF) and there was a massive bellow hiding in back. I kind of want it but I'm not even sure what I'd do with it or where I'd store it. I was on the lookout for a 20x24 bellows from an old process camera back when I was in the US, but never found one (closest I got was a guy on Craigslist in Inland Empire who was willing to take it apart and ship, but he flaked). I'm in Japan now so I think shipping would be impractical, to say the least. Does kinda suck because I've now got access to a full machine shop and a bunch of knowledgeable dudes, since I'm teaching at a technical school.
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Came across this earlier, so for those who may need some hosting or something 500px is having a black friday sale on their "awesome" level account. It's $24.95 today instead of the normal $49.95. http://500px.com/upgrade lists what you get for your cash.
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Thanks, I really dig 500px. I scooped it up at $25. How do we all follow each other on there, is there an easy way to do that?
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mr. mephistopheles posted:People may as well just commission people to do paintings of them looking swole as gently caress and killing a dragon because that's basically where photography is heading as a medium. People don't want images of themselves, they want images of who they want other people to think they are.  my okc photo
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mr. mephistopheles posted:So basically people want mates who have as few of the gross human things that we all have visible as possible. You realize this is basically how art has been done for most of the time it's existed? People usually wanted some kind of stylized version of themselves slaying a dragon for a portrait, not just sitting there looking dumpy. Even early photographs were shot in a pictoralist style because that's what people wanted. Realism is a comparatively contemporary thing and as the tools have gotten to the point where they start capturing blemishes in excruciating detail it's not really surprising that people want those touched back out.  But the decline of photography
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Paul MaudDib posted:You realize this is basically how art has been done for most of the time it's existed? People usually wanted some kind of stylized version of themselves slaying a dragon for a portrait, not just sitting there looking dumpy. Even early photographs were shot in a pictoralist style because that's what people wanted. Realism is a comparatively contemporary thing and as the tools have gotten to the point where they start capturing blemishes in excruciating detail it's not really surprising that people want those touched back out. It goes beyond just correcting skin blemishes and other minor imperfections though. There's a difference between a flattering photo and an unrealistic photo. There is a difference between using posing and lighting to obscure perceived imperfections and using photo editing programs to change the shapes of peoples' bodies and facial features. But yes I was bemoaning people not wanting photos of them just sitting there looking dumpy. It's totally impossible to take a dynamic and flattering photo without making someone's skin have no texture. We all find those child beauty pageant photos with the creepy doll eyes and the plastic skin terrifying. I just find a lot of competent editing to be similarly unsettling. I know this really amazing fashion photographer who is also an incredible digital artist and I remember the first time I watched one of her retouching videos. She had this incredibly gorgeous model, perfect and carefully considered lighting and posing, great professional make-up and hair, and still ended up using the liquify tool to make the models nose straighter and thinner and jaw line curvier, among other things. It just makes me sad that the modern measure of a good photo tends to be how attractive the person looks and not how 'truly' it captures them, if that makes sense. I think modern day headshot photography is probably the closest to what I personally like. It's more about capturing the personality and unique beauty of each individual person rather than trying to make everybody look like a model with perfect skin and bone structure and trying to hide their size and shape. To each their own, I guess.
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Modelling agencies want portfolio photos that show the model as they are, not all photoshopped to hell and back. So there will always be a market for people who take normal photos.
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I don't correct jaw shape or anything like that. Just skin really and and push in muffin tops
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The decline of photography was the rich rear end in a top hat dad with the 5d3 and the 580ex I had to tell off in the row in front of me last night because every time he didn't want to use his flash he'd point it loving backwards. Photography so bad it hurts people.red19fire posted:There was also a study that showed pets get adopted 2-3x faster if they have 'pro' photos done. Is there much more to this beyond a nifty fifty and a bit of post work? Our local no kill shelter has just some regular shots and it'd be nice to help out. ahmeni fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Nov 25, 2012 |
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ahmeni posted:The decline of photography was the rich rear end in a top hat dad with the 5d3 and the 580ex I had to tell off in the row in front of me last night because every time he didn't want to use his flash he'd point it loving backwards. Photography so bad it hurts people.
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ahmeni posted:Is there much more to this beyond a nifty fifty and a bit of post work? Our local no kill shelter has just some regular shots and it'd be nice to help out. I do this in my town. I run a one light studio setup with an Einstein and have to follow certain rules based on "editorial" preferences at the shelter, but started with not much more than you are talking about. It's a big shelter, though, so workflow and throughput is a big concern - I sacrifice a bit of artistry to produce product-photo catalogue style pictures.
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I would love to do photo work for the local shelter but I fear I'd be one of those crazy cat people with a thousand cats if I did. Kudos to SKULE123 for doing it.
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It really improved my photography a lot - have been doing it for ~2 years, so it's 2 hours to shoot and an hour of post and metadata afterwards per shoot. They have another volunteer who is a retired fine art photographer so I was able to assist him a few times and learn a lot, and it is a way to get used to the responsibilities and schedule behind a regular photo job. I'd tell anyone with the gear and capacity to give it a shot, or to see what causes are close to them that they can help with their photography. You'd be surprised! ^^ Funnily enough, our local Humane Society doesn't let you adopt as a volunteer (perhaps to prevent that kind of cat-lady situation). (And thanks to torgeaux for cutting me a sweet deal on a 100mm macro when I was getting started!  )
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I've helped out at a shelter when they had an adopt-a-thon and wanted something set up so people could get photos of them and their new pets. It was interesting, and it got me a few contacts who called me later on to do family/event photography. If you live near a shelter and want something steady to work on purely out of volunteerism, it's definitely a great opportunity.
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InternetJunky posted:I would love to do photo work for the local shelter but I fear I'd be one of those crazy cat people with a thousand cats if I did. Kudos to SKULE123 for doing it. This is the hard part for me, because my gut instinct is GIVE ME ALL OF THE DOGGES. I'm always minutes away from adopting every dog I shoot. Good shelter portraits are fairly easy. Most of the animals' current photos are taken upon intake, when they're locked in a cage, covered in their own excrement and terrified, so they look awful. So a day or so after intake, I grab the Nifty Fifty, let them run around a bit outside and warm up to me, then take a headshot in the shade from 2 feet away and about 2-3 inches above eye level. It's the same concept as the '15 inch gaze' in portraits, you want to mimic the look that the adopter is going to get snuggled up on the couch with their pet. It's Easy Mode for pet portraits.
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Decisions decisions, do I buy a new yacht or secondhand Leica? http://www.bjp-online.com/british-j...%20at%20auction
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I don't know how often they have this sale, but Lulu.com is giving 50% off calendar orders with code DELIRITAS until the end of the day today. These print off pretty slick and make a great holiday gift if you're like me and don't have a clue what to get people. They can link into personal sites like smugmug so it took me all of 15 minutes to design my own calendar.
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The rebroadcast of A Shoot with Sue (Bryce) is on right now if anyone's interested http://www.creativelive.com/live
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I posted in the LAN thread but I wanted to get a Dorkroomer perspective on this. I'm going to be in New York City starting December 6th and staying the weekend for a work project. I'm going to have a pretty fair amount of free time and they've put me up in a hotel on/near Times Square. I've been in that area before and holy poo poo, that is like my own personal hell. Where can I go to find food that's good, non-touristy chain bullshit places, and maybe some awesome camera/photography stores. Though, now that I think about it, isn't B&H in Times Square somewhere?
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Don't forget to check out Guy's American Kitchen and Bar while you're there!
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FISHMANPET posted:Don't forget to check out Guy's American Kitchen and Bar while you're there! Cool, their menu is like Chilis except everything is brined.
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squidflakes posted:Where can I go to find food that's good, non-touristy chain bullshit places, and maybe some awesome camera/photography stores. BH Photo Video is the place to see for sure, and a good place to pick up any random chemicals they won't ship if you need to. Adorama also has a store there, but it's a lot smaller. When I was there two years ago they did have a Pentax 6x7 600mm lens, that was kinda cool to see (it's about the same size as a small telescope). If you're into film stuff, check out Lens and Repro. They're definitely a hole-in-the-wall place, upstairs in a nondescript building. Walk in and it's just shelves and shelves of cameras, like my house will be when I die. If you like pizza, Lombardi's is the place to go. When I was there I met up with a goon friend of mine.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Walk in and it's just shelves and shelves of cameras, like my house will be when I die. That's definitely something I'd like to see. I'm hoping to find some Crown Graphic parts, but I know how that stuff goes.
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squidflakes posted:Cool, their menu is like Chilis except everything is brined. If you do this I'm not sure you deserve that avatar.
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My TeleVue 5x image amplifier came in the mail today. I'm going to use it to image the moon and planets, but since the cloud cover is 100% for the next few days I turned my telephoto lens on my neighbor instead. 600mm  With 5x amplifier  It was shot through my back door glass with low light and stuff in the way so don't judge it by picture quality (the amplifier is advertised as not affecting the quality in any way, still not sure how that's possible), but it's surprising how clear the image was given that this is supposed to shoot celestial objects millions of miles away.
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InternetJunky posted:My TeleVue 5x image amplifier came in the mail today. I'm going to use it to image the moon and planets, but since the cloud cover is 100% for the next few days I turned my telephoto lens on my neighbor instead. That's basically a 5x TC made by a no-name company. Considering you can see differences in image quality even when using a 1.4x TC made by a good company, that thing is going to be hilariously terrible. Please tell me you didn't pay full price for that. I'm pretty sure the horrible blurriness in the second image isn't from the glass door. EDIT: Oh, it appears to be an astronomy thing? Post some test pics some time, this may not be its intended use 
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SoundMonkey posted:EDIT: Oh, it appears to be an astronomy thing? Post some test pics some time, this may not be its intended use Tomorrow I'll try some more tests when I have some better lighting and I have the lens mounted on my astronomy tripod to eliminate vibrations.
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