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What level are you? While he's 68, the next several bosses after him are 70-72. Even if you feel your level should be fine for him per se, levelling a bit might make things easier both for him and down the road. And if your level's relatively low, that's all the more reason. (The highest level enemies in your current area are level 67, however. If you're high enough level for the experience to suck, consider swinging by Colony 9 and beating up the level 70-72 fish and flamingoes over in the northeast, that probably killed you at the beginning of the game.) That said, you don't need to go on a levelling spree. (Though it doesn't hurt: the next area's regular enemies are 72-75, might as well be high enough level that it's not excruciating to fight them.) But it might not be a bad idea if you can't win by adjusting party or strategy. In terms of battle strategy, I also found him to be a tougher fight than the several that followed. Unfortunately, it's been several months since I've done that fight, so I'm afraid I can't offer more specific advice. I seem to recall it was helpful to bring Sharla; perhaps it's just confirmation bias but I don't think he attacked her as much.
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Fun Times! posted:I'm in the latter half of the game and stuck at the final battle with Gadolt at Arignatha. I've tried this fight with and without Sharla. I went and got Shulk's Monado Armor just for this fight and he's still kicking my rear end. I can survive a wave or 2 of the mechon he summons before he just zaps and murders everyone. Get a Topple-intesive team, like Shulk/Dunban/Riki or Shulk/Dunban/Reyn. Just go into a chain-attack whenever he brings out that loving laser and Daze him. Bam.
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Dec 10, 2012 21:27
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RE: Shulk gemming, having Monado come up as fast as possible is basically the best thing, so when in doubt, just give him attack speed and double attack gems so he can build Talent gauge faster. Also runspeed.
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Dec 10, 2012 21:30
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I finally started playing this after people in the Wii U thread told me to go go go get it now. I'm actually enjoying a JRPG! This hasn't happened since FF IX so I'm really happy/impressed. Is it true that a full playthrough will take 100+ hours?  Very early game (less than 3 hours in) stuff: I've made it to the cave where you need to go to get the oil for the artillery at the start and the giant caterpiller keeps killing my party  but I love the combat system. So far I've mostly played as Shulk because I like how his moves force you to re-position against the enemies. I also liked the little bit I spent as Fiora. Reyn wasn't so fun because I got knocked off a cliff and then Shulk died 
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Dec 11, 2012 05:44
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Aaaaand Bionis' rear end is literally a swamp. Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Dec 11, 2012 05:49
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axeil, avoid the caterpillar until you're stronger. If I remember correctly there is a way to go around him.
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Dec 11, 2012 05:52
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Line Feed posted:axeil, avoid the caterpillar until you're stronger. If I remember correctly there is a way to go around him. And then go back specifically to wreck his caterpillar rear end.
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Dec 11, 2012 05:56
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Chinston Wurchill posted:And then go back specifically to wreck his caterpillar rear end. Line Feed posted:axeil, avoid the caterpillar until you're stronger. If I remember correctly there is a way to go around him. Thanks! I cannot wait to murder the poo poo out of that caterpillar  Another thing I like, when my party dies I can revive them without having to use a special spell or phoenix down or whatever. And if I do a complete wipe I keep all my items and experience, I just have to restart from the last map marker I found. That's very friendly.
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Dec 11, 2012 06:02
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axeil posted:Thanks! I cannot wait to murder the poo poo out of that caterpillar With fast travel, automatic quest completion, markers on the minimap, and a big arrow, it's a rather friendly game. That would have bothered me if it weren't so goddamn fun to play. Story's great, too. Beat it at 110 hours. Kept a save to sink some more hours into whenever I want to go completionist on it.
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Dec 11, 2012 06:16
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You could do that. Or you could not wuss out and murder that caterpillar right now. 
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Dec 11, 2012 06:20
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Regy Rusty posted:You could do that. That caterpillar makes for a good crash course in managing tanking, healing, and offense all at once while You Will Know Our Names is blasting out of your speakers and a giant monster is doing its level best to wreck your poo poo. Kill it now.
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Dec 11, 2012 07:23
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Wait until you meet Clifftop Bayern.
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Dec 11, 2012 23:09
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Vil posted:Wait until you meet Clifftop Bayern. "Hey this place looks pretty cool, I wonder what's over HOLY poo poo  "Mischievous Naberius remains the worst unique for the level that you first meet it though. Seriously, gently caress that thing.
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Dec 12, 2012 01:01
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Goddammit game, you give me prophecy visions for minor items I'll need in sidequests 5 hours later but forget to mention the things I'll need for rebuilding Colony 6? I sold everything. Everything 
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Dec 12, 2012 02:16
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Oh man, why would you do that? You never need the money, really.
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Dec 12, 2012 03:19
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Chronojam posted:Oh man, why would you do that? You never need the money, really. Because I only had three pages and 2.5 of them were full? I was already tired of it yelling at me about being full on crystal chunks (why the gently caress don't these things stack?).
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Dec 12, 2012 03:25
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Collectibles at the very least go towards grinding affinity up, not cash money.
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Chronojam posted:Collectibles at the very least go towards grinding affinity up, not cash money. When do you unlock that anyway? I just made it to the beginning of the Forest before veering off to finish the timed Bionis Leg stuff/the rebuilding. Speaking of which, gently caress that bridge fight. Once again, rabbits are the hardest loving thing in this game. 404GoonNotFound fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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Dec 12, 2012 03:34
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404GoonNotFound posted:When do you unlock that anyway? I just made it to the beginning of the Forest before veering off to finished the timed Bionis Leg stuff/the rebuilding. Unlock what? You can gift collectibles right where you're at.
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Dec 12, 2012 03:40
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Unlock what? You can gift collectibles right where you're at. ...and they never had a tutorial pop-up for this? Dammit game!
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Thundarr posted:That caterpillar makes for a good crash course in managing tanking, healing, and offense all at once while You Will Know Our Names is blasting out of your speakers and a giant monster is doing its level best to wreck your poo poo. Kill it now. I did kill it now! Felt so good. Then the mechonis attacked and Fiora died  Didn't see that coming. I'm a bit annoyed at the story because I feel like they killed her off way too early. I didn't have any sort of attachment to her other than "oh it's the love interest okay." Or were they killing her off early on purpose to say: "forget your stupid JRPG romances you have mechonis to kill!"
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Dec 12, 2012 04:40
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You gotta admit, it was a lot more effective than "Mothers are strong!" in FF13.
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404GoonNotFound posted:You gotta admit, it was a lot more effective than "Mothers are strong!" Everything about this game is better than FF13. axeil: You'll see. It's worth the wait. Try to stay away from Xenoblade plot discussion and whatnot.
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axeil posted:I did kill it now! Felt so good. Then the mechonis attacked and Fiora died 
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Dec 12, 2012 04:59
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Character motivation is kind of a big thing for all the major players, which is nice. Sometimes it's subtle, sometimes it hits you in the face like the start of the game.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Everything about this game is better than FF13. I've not moused over any spoilers in the whole thread unless it's something I know I'm already passed. Thanks 
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axeil posted:I've not moused over any spoilers in the whole thread unless it's something I know I'm already passed. Thanks Your will power is strong. Enjoy the plot; it's pretty drat good.
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Best of luck, aexil, and don't worry--I lent the game to a friend this weekend and got a text message today:quote:THAT FUCKIN CATERPILLAR You're not alone, buddy
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axeil posted:I did kill it now! Felt so good. You will do great things. Godspeed.
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axeil posted:I did kill it now! Felt so good. Attaboy! Now prepare to be blown away once you take in the next major outdoor area. I forget if it automatically changes to daytime when you enter it, just make sure after you come out the other side of the cave you wait until daylight before moving to the next zone. It is worth it. and try not to get stepped on by level 80 stuff.
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Thundarr posted:and try not to get stepped on by level 80 stuff. Yeah, returning to the Spiral Valley fast travel point after that thing happened was... eye opening 
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I'd so love to see a re-release of this for the WiiU with it being rendered in 720p and make use of the touch screen. I need a good excuse to replay it, maybe I should copy my save over and do new game+ with dolphin.
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axeil posted:I did kill it now! Felt so good. Then the mechonis attacked and Fiora died Yeah, I agree that you don't get enough time with her, but the way each of the characters react to her loss, especially Shulk vs. Dunban kinda makes up for it. 404GoonNotFound posted:I was already tired of it yelling at me about being full on crystal chunks (why the gently caress don't these things stack?). PFlats's Crystal Guide: Ignore crystals that don't say "Quick Step" until they hit Level IV. They're not any better than fully-made gems you get for doing quests, and the bonuses aren't worth the hassle. Once you hit crystal level IV (around the time you get all seven party members, if memory serves) then you can start worrying about what's good and what isn't. PFlats's Crystal Guide Corollary: Make sure two party members stay yellow hexagons to each other in the relationship screens if you really want to goon out over crystals. For me, it was Sharla and the Heropon; since they're the best healers, you never need both of them. hey girl you up fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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For really gooning out, just get a clinder pro in there and toss garbage in with 60-75%ish crystals. Use bad crystals as chaff to clear your inventory out a bit, too, it's faster than doing a discard individually if I recall the menu sorting lag time correctly.
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PFlats posted:PFlats's Crystal Guide Corollary: Make sure two party members stay yellow hexagons to each other in the relationship screens if you really want to goon out over crystals. For me, it was Sharla and the Heropon; since they're the best healers, you never need both of them. Wait, why's that? Less turns in the crafting screen, or something else?
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404GoonNotFound posted:Wait, why's that? Less turns in the crafting screen, or something else? That's exactly it. You get a gem one rank higher if you get the percentage to 200%, and two gems at 300%, so you want to start at as high a percentage as possible. But once your starting percentage is over 100 you can't put any more crystals in, so the best thing to do is put in two crystals with as near to 99% as possible. If you have two party members with low affinity that makes it easier to increase the percentage by small amounts without going over 100 accidentally. Another reason Sharla is good for this is that she gets lots of green flames, which means more chance of getting to keep cylinders with the properties that didn't reach 100%. (At least I think she does, it's been a while since I played) Suaimhneas fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Dec 13, 2012 |
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Chronojam posted:For really gooning out, just get a clinder pro in there and toss garbage in with 60-75%ish crystals. Use bad crystals as chaff to clear your inventory out a bit, too, it's faster than doing a discard individually if I recall the menu sorting lag time correctly. Suaimhneas posted:That's exactly it. You get a gem one rank higher if you get the percentage to 200%, and two gems at 300%, so you want to start at as high a percentage as possible. But once your starting percentage is over 100 you can't put any more crystals in, so the best thing to do is put in two crystals with as near to 99% as possible. If you have two party members with low affinity that makes it easier to increase the percentage by small amounts without going over 100 accidentally.
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Which is, of course, another good reason when you're refining into cylinders to dump as much chaff along with the qualities you want as is possible, so that if you do get a stupid lucky chain of boosts when you least want it it's less likely to send that Double Attack V quality to 105%.
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Chronojam posted:Character motivation is kind of a big thing for all the major players, which is nice. Sometimes it's subtle, sometimes it hits you in the face like the start of the game. I love Riki's motivation for joining you (at least the one he cites when first joining the party), that he's in deep with the loan sharks and is "volunteering" to go along. But he has so many littlepons to feed 
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Thundarr posted:Attaboy! Now prepare to be blown away once you take in the next major outdoor area. I forget if it automatically changes to daytime when you enter it, just make sure after you come out the other side of the cave you wait until daylight before moving to the next zone. It is worth it. That area is really awesome. You can see Bionis and Mechonis plus there are giant dinosaurs! I managed not to get squished while I bet up a lot of horses for sweet, sweet quest rewards.
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