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Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Suaimhneas posted:

Have high affinity between the characters. The higher it is the greater the chance the chain will continue. It won't happen much early in the game but later it'll become pretty common.

The tension level also affects whether or not a chain will continue. If their portrait in the upper left shows them looking like :smith:, the chance of chaining is low. If they are literally on fire with BURNING SPIRIT, the chance of chaining is much higher. A party of BFFs at max tension will be chaining constantly.

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Nighteyedie
May 30, 2011
There are also skills that increase the chance of chaining, I know Shulk has one.

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008
So... uh... Where does on purchase this game for under 100 dollars?

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless

HORSEPORN posted:

So... uh... Where does on purchase this game for under 100 dollars?

The internet, circa 1 year ago. :colbert:

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Tupperwarez posted:

Speaking of that horrid relative, did anyone else laugh their goddamn rear end off when she flew away with her headwings at the end of that sidequest? It didn't help that she was so serious when she did it.

This was me

Holy poo poo those things WORK!?

Completely ruined my ability to take the character seriously

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008

NTT posted:

The internet, circa 1 year ago. :colbert:

Well apparently my local gamestop has three for 25 dollars. I'll probably buy one for myself and resell the others for easy profits then. Just wanted to make sure it was as rare as I thought.

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless

HORSEPORN posted:

Well apparently my local gamestop has three for 25 dollars. I'll probably buy one for myself and resell the others for easy profits then. Just wanted to make sure it was as rare as I thought.

afaik, you can get it reasonably cheap, but only local, and only if it's in stock. Otherwise it's pretty expensive on sites like Amazon.

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008

The trenches of IT can scar a muppet for life
Gamestop.com had it available not long ago. I picked it up for $50 in store last month so if yours is offering them for $25 and you have the spare cash I would definitely pick them up for resale later.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Okay, I picked this up again after a long delay (I stalled out at some point in Mechonis Field) and now I've gotten through the Core stuff. I just went into Bionis's Interior and wanted to ask some advice. I've skimmed a few things online while trying to avoid spoilers, and it looks like I can basically do this zone then either finish the game or grind away on levels and affinity and Colony 6 rebuilding.

Is there a particular path I should be following here? Any useful endgame guides around if I want to do some more leveling before the big finale? Is there a point I should get through plot-wise before heading off to to the great endgame grind? Will it be obvious if I just keep playing?

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


When the game straight up asks you (in character!) if you want to do the final battle and not return to the rest of the game, select "no" and then make a save. Then go do the final battle.

If you level up enough to tackle the endgame named enemies and sidequests you will breeze through the final fight since it's designed to be possible without a punishing grind and without a player doing all (or even most) of the sidequests. That might sap some of the gravitas.

Beat it and then go do your post-game stuff by reloading that save.

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?

HORSEPORN posted:

So... uh... Where does on purchase this game for under 100 dollars?

There were two new copies left in the entire city when I got it two weeks ago. Also I think Gamestop had a new shipment in online for a day or two.

MOVIE MAJICK
Jan 4, 2012

by Pragmatica
Can anyone give me tips for killing the cellar bugworm in tephra caves? I just lost fiona and I'm level 12 and I cant beat the loving thing despite it only being level 10. Also should I do everything I can for colony 9 before I leave? I mean stuff like collections and whatnot

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

You can do as much as you want to. Almost everything stays around forever - as long as a quest doesn't have a clock next to it it will always be there. So if you want to move on, feel free to since you can always come back later.

Tobias Grant
May 16, 2009

Lucky for you, I'm a dog lover.
Can anyone give me some tips on how to use the other characters? My main party for my entire first playthough was Shulk, Carla, and Dunban, and I just can't figure out how to use characters like Melia and Riki very effectively.

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

Tobias Grant posted:

Can anyone give me some tips on how to use the other characters? My main party for my entire first playthough was Shulk, Carla, and Dunban, and I just can't figure out how to use characters like Melia and Riki very effectively.

Melia's a magical nuke. Load her up with +Thunder gems and +Ether gems, first off. Her "summon" abilities store up buffs at first, but you can fire them off for an offensive spell by using her Talent Art (which is always useable, unlike other characters'). Her summons get dismissed on a last in, first out basis.

Basically, here's what you do. Pick a buffing spell of your choice, I usually go with Summon Aqua or Wind. Then Summon Bolt and Summon Copy. Now you have 1 Aqua/Wind spirit and 2 Bolt Spirits. Use her Talent Art (middle button) to fire off those two Bolt Spirits, rinse, repeat.

Note you can also use that Talent Art during a Chain attack and it'll count for any "color" during the combo. You can use her to Chain together ridiculous combos.

She also has a healing spell that sacrifices some of her own HP to heal someone. Handy since she doesn't need her HP much anyway. She also has a Break/Topple combo that you should consider putting on her.

The only other thing to watch out for is she'll draw agro like mad. Make sure she's with someone with some Agro+ gems (Dunban or Reyn work well).

Rikki works a bit different. He's somewhat of a tank, and somewhat of a damage-dealer. He has stupidly high HP, and some great support abilities. Where he really shines is in his damage over time abilties, or DOTs. He gets Bleed, Burn, Poison, etc enducing abilities. What you want to do with him his load him up with Bleed/Burn/Poison+ gems and Ether+ gems, maybe some Def+ if you can spare the space.

Unleash some of those DOT abilities during a Chain Attack, preferably at the end, and watch the damage rack up.

He also gets a handy full-party heal spell, and he can give the party gauge a boost with "Happy Happy." Oh, and he can also Topple things without breaking them.

Rikki's a little monster, is what I'm saying. He's great.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Melia doing a solo topple combo blew my mind, it's so useful but comes at the cost of two spells.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
My one major issue is that the party leader is always the first in a chain attack. He's great to play as, but I want him at the end of a chain attack to get the boost on his spells.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

At the same time being able to topple an enemy in the first step of a chain attack is amazing. I think Shulk, Melia, and Riki are the only three characters I really stuck with playing as during my playthrough.

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

YggiDee posted:

My one major issue is that the party leader is always the first in a chain attack. He's great to play as, but I want him at the end of a chain attack to get the boost on his spells.

As affinity rises, you'll see longer chains. He starts first, then fourth, then after that every chain is MAX and you'll be fine.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie
So I found a used copy of the game for 45 CAD and, regretting not pre-purchasing it a while ago, I intend to play it after Christmas, when I'm not busy. I can't wait.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Chronojam posted:

Melia doing a solo topple combo blew my mind, it's so useful but comes at the cost of two spells.

Watching a prim and proper princess deliver a Shining Wizard so ferocious that it makes a 50 foot tall dinosaur topple over is worth the cost on every conceivable level.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Come to think of it, I've never bothered with Riki's topple skill. I have enough trouble figuring out which skills to use as it is.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


YggiDee posted:

Come to think of it, I've never bothered with Riki's topple skill. I have enough trouble figuring out which skills to use as it is.

It hits things way above your level pretty well.

Fhqwhgads
Jul 18, 2003

I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THIS GAME WHO GETS LAID
Is Dunban the only one who really benefits from being naked/no gems?

I'm in the 70's now, and it seems like everyone's stats (except Shulk for some reason) skyrocket when I link the "skill boost when no gems are equipped" art. I can't tell initially if that boost to Ether for Melia, for example, is better than +Thunder/+Ether gems or not. I've been running naked Dunban and no-gem Melia and have been melting same-level enemies, but I'm not sure if this is the min-max way of going about it.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

WYA posted:

Can anyone give me tips for killing the cellar bugworm in tephra caves? I just lost fiona and I'm level 12 and I cant beat the loving thing despite it only being level 10. Also should I do everything I can for colony 9 before I leave? I mean stuff like collections and whatnot

As a rule of thumb, if a monster has a unique name add +5 to its level.

Tobias Grant posted:

Can anyone give me some tips on how to use the other characters? My main party for my entire first playthough was Shulk, Carla, and Dunban, and I just can't figure out how to use characters like Melia and Riki very effectively.

I'm cruising through Mechonis Field right now playing as Melia and it's a surprising amount of fun, I got sick of the AI not knowing how to use her so I tried it. Summon Bolt then two other spirits, use her Talent Art twice, Summon Bolt, Summon Copy, Talent Art 3x. One thing I found is that you can pre-load commands with her, so while she's in a summoning animation you can select another Art and once she's out of the animation she'll automatically use the pre-selected Art.

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?

C-Euro posted:

I'm cruising through Mechonis Field right now playing as Melia and it's a surprising amount of fun, I got sick of the AI not knowing how to use her so I tried it. Summon Bolt then two other spirits, use her Talent Art twice, Summon Bolt, Summon Copy, Talent Art 3x. One thing I found is that you can pre-load commands with her, so while she's in a summoning animation you can select another Art and once she's out of the animation she'll automatically use the pre-selected Art.

How well does Shulk do the Monado spam if you don't play as him anyway? Hell, do you even get the prophecies/shielding?

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

404GoonNotFound posted:

How well does Shulk do the Monado spam if you don't play as him anyway? Hell, do you even get the prophecies/shielding?

You get Shulk's prophecies even if he's not "in the party". I guess we're just supposed to realize that the people who aren't in combat are still with us, just having a smoke or something instead of loving helping.

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

Fergus Mac Roich posted:

You get Shulk's prophecies even if he's not "in the party". I guess we're just supposed to realize that the people who aren't in combat are still with us, just having a smoke or something instead of loving helping.
They sell tickets and operate the concessions stand.

"Reyn, I'm having a vision!"
"That's the popcorn timer, you daft git."

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

404GoonNotFound posted:

How well does Shulk do the Monado spam if you don't play as him anyway? Hell, do you even get the prophecies/shielding?

You still get prophecies even without Shulk on board. As for his Monado abilities, I haven't really noticed since he's not in my party unless I'm controlling him (he's maxed/nearly maxed affinity with everyone else)

Nighteyedie
May 30, 2011

404GoonNotFound posted:

How well does Shulk do the Monado spam if you don't play as him anyway? Hell, do you even get the prophecies/shielding?

He does do the anti-mechon enchant when the AI controls him, but I don't know if he does anything else useful, I usually just control him when I really need monado abilities.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
Yeah, you can't count on him to be useful on his own when you need his abilities. I swap him in as Leader in those cases. Otherwise, he gets to either warm the bench or take orders from the best party member.

rikisneaky

MOVIE MAJICK
Jan 4, 2012

by Pragmatica
I was worried for my first several hours in, I knew I was playing a jrpg but something was... off. But finally my worries were put to rest, there is in fact boob jiggle physics in this game.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

WYA posted:

I was worried for my first several hours in, I knew I was playing a jrpg but something was... off. But finally my worries were put to rest, there is in fact boob jiggle physics in this game.

I'm starting to think that boob giggle physics is a normal practice for everything in Japan and we're culturally insensitive when we bring it up. Clearly we are the Xenophobes (PUN INTENDED).

MOVIE MAJICK
Jan 4, 2012

by Pragmatica

Louisgod posted:

I'm starting to think that boob giggle physics is a normal practice for everything in Japan and we're culturally insensitive when we bring it up. Clearly we are the Xenophobes (PUN INTENDED).

I wonder if maybe theres a boob jiggle expert that all the game companies hire, someone who has perfected the art. A master of ancient ways, the tit master

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

WYA posted:

I wonder if maybe theres a boob jiggle expert that all the game companies hire, someone who has perfected the art. A master of ancient ways, the tit master

well of course there is

quote:

In an exclusive interview with PSU, Team Ninja producer Yosuke Hayashi said the development team went "hands-on" with partners and other members of the Japanese studio in order to get the breast physics right for its upcoming brawler Dead Or Alive 5. That’s right; the team put an awful lot of attention on that specific “feature” of the game.

In DOA5, female breasts jiggle and bounce realistically depending in what costume they're wearing. Responding to a question: "what would you say to those people who think that the bikini-clad babes in DOA5 are sexist," Hayashi said that all the team wanted to do was create "the cutest chicks in videogames," and he feels DOA5 achieves that.

JAPAN

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
What does armor weight affect on characters? Agility? Dodge %? Something else?

E: So the more armor weight a character has, the greater hit they take to their Agility? How does it scale?

C-Euro fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Dec 21, 2012

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Agility is your Dodge %, so the answer's yes to both.

MOVIE MAJICK
Jan 4, 2012

by Pragmatica
My 10-hour-in review - One of the best rpgs ever made (within my top 20 at the very least), not just jrpgs, but rpgs as a whole. Everything impresses me about this game and thats coming from a guy who sort of really cant stand jrpgs. One of the remarkable things is they made the antagonists really loathsome and, sort of, frightening. There is a real sense of malice that you dont get from the common banana in the fruitbowl of jrpgs. Another thing I really like is that the npcs for the most part airnt just sign posts, theres a whole thought out scheme on how they relate. For the first time I remember I feel the urge to collect 5 monkey scrotums not just because it will give me magic stick, but because I want to see how the relations and stories change. An example is that little pompom kid in colony 6 who you make a book for because he lost his parents. I actually sort of choked up talking to him and set out right away to make sure the pictures in the book dont tell him to drown in a river.

I'm at the point where the fat robot took away jujube away to eat him. I'm not really rushing to rescue the kid, instead doing some quests for the cave refugees. Will I be able to come back and finish them off after I do something mean to the fat robot that is voiced by the cave troll from the hobbit? Also is it generally worthwhile to come back and finish collectables or should I only bother to do them as I find them (in terms of the rewards they get, not my own personal asspergers satisfaction)? I also feel like I'm a little bit behind in terms of story progression for 10 hours in, or am I right on track?



edit: sort of a technical question:

My system struggles to run it on dolphin at times and I dont think it really should.

i5 2.4 GHz processor
560ti geforce vid card
8GB ram

I had to put the sound on LLE because it was making GBS threads in my ears and now whenever I enter a big battle or a boss battle the framerate dips and it starts stuttering. Are there any known tweaks for this game?

MOVIE MAJICK fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Dec 21, 2012

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

WYA posted:

I'm at the point where the fat robot took away jujube away to eat him. I'm not really rushing to rescue the kid, instead doing some quests for the cave refugees. Will I be able to come back and finish them off after I do something mean to the fat robot that is voiced by the cave troll from the hobbit? ... I also feel like I'm a little bit behind in terms of story progression for 10 hours in, or am I right on track?

You're taking your time, so right on track for that? There are two options: speed through the story, in which case you're behind, or DO EVERYTHING.

I think the cave refugee quests expire after you take out the fat robot. If not then, soon after.

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Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


WYA posted:

Also is it generally worthwhile to come back and finish collectables or should I only bother to do them as I find them (in terms of the rewards they get, not my own personal asspergers satisfaction)? I also feel like I'm a little bit behind in terms of story progression for 10 hours in, or am I right on track?

edit: sort of a technical question:

My system struggles to run it on dolphin at times and I dont think it really should.

i5 2.4 GHz processor
560ti geforce vid card
8GB ram

I had to put the sound on LLE because it was making GBS threads in my ears and now whenever I enter a big battle or a boss battle the framerate dips and it starts stuttering. Are there any known tweaks for this game?

In almost every area you will just happen to pick up enough stuff as you wander around so I wouldn't worry about that. The rewards are certainly appropriate to the general level of the area, so they are only worth OCD value or for certain quests later on.

There is a Xenoblade specific version of Dolphin you can get instead of the main trunk that might help you out, also.

Also if you feel you are going too fast, just explore a bit and flesh out your map. The full map reveals for each area once you find all the landmarks, just so you know. Explore, and find more terrifying poo poo like Immovable Gonzalez.

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