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dieFALKENATOR
Dec 24, 2011

EATIN SHRIMP posted:

What's the term for chicago rap like Chief Keef? I remember reading something that classified him into some subgenre that had to do with Chicago rap but I can't remember the term

"Drill".

It's something that critics are sucking immensely at talking about, because it's... unwordy and kinda relentless.

The only other acts I'm really seeing talked about as Drill are (well, Young Chop is prob the definitive producer) Katie Got Bandz, whose mixtape I did not like, and King L(ouie), who had a very good single called 'Val venis' and whose mixtape Drilluminati I've only listened to half of but I was really into.

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The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:

dieFALKENATOR posted:

"Drill".

It's something that critics are sucking immensely at talking about, because it's... unwordy and kinda relentless.

The only other acts I'm really seeing talked about as Drill are (well, Young Chop is prob the definitive producer) Katie Got Bandz, whose mixtape I did not like, and King L(ouie), who had a very good single called 'Val venis' and whose mixtape Drilluminati I've only listened to half of but I was really into.

Katie Got Bandz tape was mixed like poo poo but all her tracks on YouTube sounds good for some reason. Sasha GoHard is cool when she's not doing love songs and Chella H is OK if not a little corny. This track with the three of them is great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0GJs8s5GQs

and that is pretty much everything I know about Drill music.

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

Ah Drill Music that's it, thanks y'all

To go off what Get Money said I think Finally Rich is actually awesome for what it is, it's stupid but it's pretty relaxing to listen to.

7 RING SHRIMP fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Dec 20, 2012

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
This is Katie's calling card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFR8yVn8GSo

I think its kind of sweet in a ghetto way. You have to turn it up to hear the beat because yeah, its mixed weird.

quote:

That spin around when you see her face for the first time xD

Slackerish
Jan 1, 2007

Hail Boognish

dieFALKENATOR posted:

"Drill".

It's something that critics are sucking immensely at talking about, because it's... unwordy and kinda relentless.

My friend DJs rap battles in Chicago and says that the everyone in the scene despises the term.

Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Something tells me that people into drill despise the rap battle crowd too...

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

BRB MAKIN BACON posted:

I don't really understand what makes rap good or bad according to this thread.

Maybe cause it's at least a dozen or so different people's opinions on a regular basis?

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
I don't think anyone here likes Atmosphere or Immortal Technique.

hobbez
Mar 1, 2012

Don't care. Just do not care. We win, you lose. You do though, you seem to care very much

I'm going to go ride my mountain bike, later nerds.
What's wrong with atmosphere? He's alright.

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
I've really been liking this Lil Ugly Mane track(Bitch I'm Lugubrious): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkeklwHelNA

What are his other highlights?

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah

hobbez posted:

What's wrong with atmosphere? He's alright.

They have good to great production but Slug (the rapper part of the duo) is incredibly mediocre, plus Atmosphere fans are the only people I've ever heard unironically talk about real hip-hop. My comment was more about the general consensus of this thread more than a critique on Atmosphere, to each their own.

Slackerish
Jan 1, 2007

Hail Boognish

ashgromnies posted:

I've really been liking this Lil Ugly Mane track(Bitch I'm Lugubrious): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkeklwHelNA

What are his other highlights?

Just get Mister Thug Isolation. I can't think of a Lil Ugly Mane song that I don't like

hobbez posted:

What's wrong with atmosphere? He's alright.

He has his moments, but when you take what good songs he has and look at his discography overall, the ratio of bad to good is pretty staggering.

I will say Felt has some good stuff, which is weird because I find Murs to be even more boring than Atmosphere

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

Most atmosphere fans dont even know the rapper is named Slug and not "atmosphere". I think that says it all.

edit: It's weird to listen to a track like "Guns and Cigarettes" in 2012. I think slug could have been as big as eminem if he had chosen that path.

Pimp Cauldron
Aug 3, 2002

A twisted pictoral of phoenix, AZ

BRB MAKIN BACON posted:

I don't really understand what makes rap good or bad according to this thread. All I know is that I love me some Danny Brown.

it's OK, he is pretty popular with people who don't actually listen to hip hop

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
I enjoy the first three albums from Atmosphere, but being a native of the Twin Cities leads to hearing about them every time you mention that you like rap

Re:Lil Ugly Mane, seconding MISTA THUG ISOLATION. Also his production on tracks like Underwater Tank is super great too.

Listening to LongLiveA$AP, I'm digging it. Some words that are repeated way too much (Testarosa, anyone?) and sometimes it can be boring. Really surprised by Angels for being such a blatant SGP diss track, because I understood they had buried the hatchet. Also, like the Skrillex track because the fundamentals are solid, just wish Skrillex had avoided the dubstep distortion and used synths that were lower in pitch.

Slackerish
Jan 1, 2007

Hail Boognish

Boywhiz88 posted:

Really surprised by Angels for being such a blatant SGP diss track, because I understood they had buried the hatchet.

Did you not hear about how Radier Klan tried to raid the ASAP show in Miami like a month ago?

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Slackerish posted:

Did you not hear about how Radier Klan tried to raid the ASAP show in Miami like a month ago?

I saw the fallout on Twitter. Cops having to be called out and whatnot. But seriously, it was like 2 weeks ago I saw SGP saying something to the effect of "ASAP beef is dead bruh"

Slackerish
Jan 1, 2007

Hail Boognish

Boywhiz88 posted:

I saw the fallout on Twitter. Cops having to be called out and whatnot. But seriously, it was like 2 weeks ago I saw SGP saying something to the effect of "ASAP beef is dead bruh"

you can never really trust what SGP says ever, I mean he "quit" rap like four times in 2012.

I like SGP a lot but as a person he's clearly not much more than a bipolar 21-year old who can't handle hype.

In any case the Klan vs. Mob beef is maybe the most boring beef in the history of hip-hop

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Slackerish posted:

you can never really trust what SGP says ever, I mean he "quit" rap like four times in 2012.

I like SGP a lot but as a person he's clearly not much more than a bipolar 21-year old who can't handle hype.

In any case the Klan vs. Mob beef is maybe the most boring beef in the history of hip-hop

I agree with all these points. Blackland Radio 66.6 was one of my top albums of 2011. I still can listen to it non-stop, and I dig BMW. But giving his account on twitter to the Raider Klvn and then coming back and just bleh.

What I love about ASAP vs Raider is that's it just kids, most of whom probably aren't tooled up or have fired on someone. In fact, Angels is the first time I can think of where one of them addresses the other.

dieFALKENATOR
Dec 24, 2011

Slackerish posted:

My friend DJs rap battles in Chicago and says that the everyone in the scene despises the term.

Maybe they do, idk; it's prob fair to say the leading lights don't given various lyrics/song titles/tape titles.

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



I really hope Schoolboy Q and A$AP Rocky do a collaboration album at some point. I guess with Q on Interscope and Rocky on Sony it's unlikely but I'm pretty sure it would be the best album ever?

apophenium
Apr 14, 2009

ashgromnies posted:

I've really been liking this Lil Ugly Mane track(Bitch I'm Lugubrious): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkeklwHelNA

What are his other highlights?

http://youtu.be/MontroQYIbg

This eleven minute monster is incredible. I haven't listened to much of his other stuff, but I'm gonna have to cause I've listened to this thing many times.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
I'm pretty sure a Black Hippy collaboration album would be much better, and more realistic. Kendrick, Ab-Soul, Jay Rock, and Schoolboy or some combination thereof on each track? Yeaaaaah

edit: not even trying to be over-dramatic, I just deleted the A$AP Skrillex song because it keeps sneaking up on me when I listen to the album. One minute I'd be vibing and next thing I know I'm getting stabbed to death by syrup synth.

thathonkey fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Dec 21, 2012

WerthersWay
Jul 21, 2009

Except for the singles and the features (with rappers), Long Live Asap is pretty underwhelming. Too many tracks sound like Lords Don't Worry rejects.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
I'm failing to see how you don't think LVL isn't the hottest poo poo ever.

atrus50
Dec 24, 2008
LMAO Kendrick won, and West coast won. Frank at number 2 as well and no chief keef or any other drillfolk in sight.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
Saw this kid spamming youtube comments, usually they are pretty bad but I thought he was pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T6ccl5pFcM

youngallah
Mar 14, 2012
hey if yall liked the kydd and worldwide track i posted earlier the whole lns crew mixtape just came up which includes a remix of it

more new southern raps for ya

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

atrus50 posted:

LMAO Kendrick won, and West coast won. Frank at number 2 as well and no chief keef or any other drillfolk in sight.

this post is really dumb for a lot of reasons, can you spot them all???

BRB MAKIN BACON
Mar 22, 2007

I am Tuxedo Mask.
Russell Wilson, look into your heart and find the warrior within.
It is your destiny.

~:Seattle Seahawks:~

guy in a jetta posted:

it's OK, he is pretty popular with people who don't actually listen to hip hop

What does this even mean. Is this troll bait?

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

BRB MAKIN BACON posted:

What does this even mean. Is this troll bait?

i like danny but its not exactly a controversial opinion (or even an opinion at all?) that his demographic is primarily white hipsters who are not exactly heads, this happens to plenty of decent rappers - see: clipse c. hell hath no fury, and plenty of other poo poo.

anyway noz put out his top 50 tracks list that he does and it's pretty good (except for the macklemore inclusion), especially this which i hadn't heard before and is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdIzXId2Zk

InnercityGriot
Dec 31, 2008

Robert Analog posted:

I'm failing to see how you don't think LVL isn't the hottest poo poo ever.

It's pretty disappointing, quite honestly, but I thought the new Big Boi poo poo was similarly weak so whatevs. People have their own vibe.

The upcoming Metro Zu poo poo (Zuology 2/Intimacy 3) sounds way better beat-wise than this joint, and really, I doubt people were listening to ASAP for any reason other than beats anyway. More Clams Casino next time.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

a false posted:

i like danny but its not exactly a controversial opinion (or even an opinion at all?) that his demographic is primarily white hipsters who are not exactly heads, this happens to plenty of decent rappers - see: clipse c. hell hath no fury, and plenty of other poo poo.
Yeah. Danny Brown is the only new rapper I wholeheartedly endorse. All he needs is one verse on someone's song and he'll get a look from 'da hood'. I think he should pair up with 2Chains or Juicy J. I respect him more for staying hipster or underground.

2Chains is my vote for most improved rapper of 2012. I don't think there should be any debate about it. The man has came back from the dead.

gucci bane
Oct 27, 2008



seeing kendrick tomorrow, anyone been to his live concerts? Is it hit and miss or is he great?

Edit: I know its kind of a stupid question but I'm just fishing for stories because I'm excited :)

gucci bane fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Dec 21, 2012

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


a false posted:

i like danny but its not exactly a controversial opinion (or even an opinion at all?) that his demographic is primarily white hipsters who are not exactly heads, this happens to plenty of decent rappers - see: clipse c. hell hath no fury, and plenty of other poo poo.

anyway noz put out his top 50 tracks list that he does and it's pretty good (except for the macklemore inclusion), especially this which i hadn't heard before and is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdIzXId2Zk

I thought that list was pretty good and had a decent cross section of what was going on this year in rap. Only notable stuff I saw left off would've been something from Joey Badass (but he said he's got a bias against him so that's understandable). There's a couple random things too that I would've included on a personal list but overall it was definitely solid. And even the tracks I didn't like for the most part it would've been difficult to say they weren't influential or w/e this year.

alansmithee fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Dec 21, 2012

Incorrect Username
Feb 21, 2011

Harley C posted:

seeing kendrick tomorrow, anyone been to his live concerts? Is it hit and miss or is he great?

Edit: I know its kind of a stupid question but I'm just fishing for stories because I'm excited :)

I saw him two nights ago and he was great. Nothing overly spectaclular or energetic but if the crowd is digging it, you should too. Except a lot of Section 80 in the first half and some GKMC in the second half. He really seemed genuinely happy to be there. If you get a good crowd you should have a great time. Expect a lot of sing-a-longs for choruses too.

Mickolution
Oct 1, 2005

Ballers...I put numbers on the boards

Incorrect Username posted:

I saw him two nights ago and he was great. Nothing overly spectaclular or energetic but if the crowd is digging it, you should too. Except a lot of Section 80 in the first half and some GKMC in the second half. He really seemed genuinely happy to be there. If you get a good crowd you should have a great time. Expect a lot of sing-a-longs for choruses too.

Nice one. I'm seeing him in January. We get so few hip-hop gigs here (Dublin) that the crowd is usually really up for anything that comes along, although that's usually just whatever incarnation of the Wu-Tang comes to Europe.

keevo
Jun 16, 2011

:burger:WAKE UP:burger:

temple posted:

I think he should pair up with 2Chains or Juicy J. I respect him more for staying hipster or underground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpllaoGUzDU

YOU SAY NO TO DRUGS, THAT MEANS MO FOR ME

BRB MAKIN BACON
Mar 22, 2007

I am Tuxedo Mask.
Russell Wilson, look into your heart and find the warrior within.
It is your destiny.

~:Seattle Seahawks:~

InnercityGriot posted:

It's pretty disappointing, quite honestly, but I thought the new Big Boi poo poo was similarly weak so whatevs. People have their own vibe.

The upcoming Metro Zu poo poo (Zuology 2/Intimacy 3) sounds way better beat-wise than this joint, and really, I doubt people were listening to ASAP for any reason other than beats anyway. More Clams Casino next time.

Yeah I listened to all of Long Live ASAP last night and the beats were the strongest component. They were high quality stuff.

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hobbez
Mar 1, 2012

Don't care. Just do not care. We win, you lose. You do though, you seem to care very much

I'm going to go ride my mountain bike, later nerds.

Incorrect Username posted:

I saw him two nights ago and he was great. Nothing overly spectaclular or energetic but if the crowd is digging it, you should too. Except a lot of Section 80 in the first half and some GKMC in the second half. He really seemed genuinely happy to be there. If you get a good crowd you should have a great time. Expect a lot of sing-a-longs for choruses too.

Hahaha honestly how he kept repeating the choruses and telling the crowd to join in got kind of annoying but overall it was a good show.

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