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The White Dragon posted:I guess the Street Fighter/Auron Simon dealie was already filled by Sabin. They should've just, as someone else said, made it a choose-your-tech dealie where it charges a hidden ATB based on his Speed. It'd at least make speeds <100 worth half a drat on Cyan. I think there are a few things they could have done. For one Cyan has his own basically-unique weapon gimmick which you could have tied into the Sword Tech ability. Maybe have each sword have its own unique gimmick or something ala the similar techniques in FFT or whatever. Make the equipment better and give it distinct abilities and he suddenly fills a niche nobody else does really. It could be overpowered as gently caress but considering everyone in FF6 is overpowered as gently caress I can't really say Cyan would be out of place there.
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It's ok guys when they remake FF6 for the 3DS in 3D and we all buy the game for the 3rd time they'll fix this
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Dec 25, 2012 13:40
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:It's ok guys when they remake FF6 for the 3DS in 3D and we all buy the game for the 3rd time they'll fix this Fourth for me, drat Anthologies.
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Dec 25, 2012 15:39
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Merry Christmas all. Have a terrible present: Gaze at the unobscured horror of the design.
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Dec 26, 2012 00:30
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Her arms can't even reach those pockets on the sides. 
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Dec 26, 2012 00:49
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Krad posted:Her arms can't even reach those pockets on the sides. Well, on the one hand, that's not really that big of a deal. On the other hand, someone forgot to tell Nomura that cargo pants traditionally have pockets up near the waist, too. Either way, out of all the things wrong with that outfit, the pockets don't really strike me as the worst problem.
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Dec 26, 2012 01:04
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Zeta Gundam as all hell up in this Final Fantasy.
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Dec 26, 2012 01:16
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Shaezerus posted:Zeta Gundam as all hell up in this Final Fantasy. Uh, excuse me, that is clearly Wing Gundam. Zeta's shield is reversed. 
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Dec 26, 2012 01:21
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Her chestpiece looks like an apron  Is it even supposed to be able to bend? Or is it just one solid piece that would inhibit all movement?
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Dec 26, 2012 01:24
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Calaveron posted:Her chestpiece looks like an apron It's a corset. Just... inexplicably a corset that is also boobplate armor. I mean seriously, loving look at it. They modeled the 'bare flesh' individually from the 'corset' despite *both being part of the armor.* That is so loving stupid that I can't believe that Nomura didn't break down sobbing bloody tears after designing it.
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Dec 26, 2012 01:26
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Haha there are zero items of clothes on that design. They just kept adding accessories until there were enough of them to simulate clothes. I wanna see the sketching process for that costume actually. Did he figure out the silhouette first and then fill in the details with increasingly unlikely poo poo, or was it fetish underwear and cargo chaps and pyramid-studded dinner gloves right out the gate?
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Dec 26, 2012 01:39
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Shaezerus posted:Zeta Gundam as all hell up in this Final Fantasy. I think I'd be able to forgive that outfit if it meant she gets a plane Paradigm down the line.
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Dec 26, 2012 01:55
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Here's a nice, simple base rule for whether or not an outfit is unfathomably stupid: does it look like it is even possible to put on, let alone move around in? If not, go back the loving drawing board! That might be the worst ensemble since Dirge of Cerberus.
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Dec 26, 2012 01:56
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At the very least, I can believe that there is a >0 amount of Japanese folk who are saying the equivalent of "What the gently caress, Nomura?" in response to that thing.  
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Dec 26, 2012 01:58
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I think this will be the first time I don't buy a Final Fantasy solely because of a costume. That's it Nomura, I will not encourage you any longer.
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Dec 26, 2012 02:00
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Let's see: * Leather corset * Bikini panties * Garter belt attached to what can best be described as cargo pants * Arm protection that only covers one side of the arm * That ridiculous gauntlet thing * Lots and lots more I have no words to describe what's wrong with this outfit. It's enough to just describe it. I can't believe someone got paid to design this and didn't loose his job afterwards. EDIT: With most FF games I have just laughed at the silly costumes and run with it, but Lightning's outfit in FFXII-2 and now this are just too much. Renoistic fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Dec 26, 2012 |
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Cardboard Fox posted:I think this will be the first time I don't buy a Final Fantasy solely because of a costume. That's it Nomura, I will not encourage you any longer. Your will is no longer your own. We have all become part of the Nomura belt mass. It has ensnared us all. There is no escape  [e]:  Nooj's one is still far worse than Lightning's. Same way of working though; add poo poo until it resembles a walking mess - say it's finished. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Dec 26, 2012 |
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Dec 26, 2012 02:07
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So does this beat out Nooj as Nomura's worst design? I'm pretty sure it does. You'd think after XIII the guy calmed down on the crazy, but then he releases something like this...
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Dec 26, 2012 02:07
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Someone showed off Lightning's design from FFXIII before, so I figured I'd show her other designs as well so you guys have something to compare this monstrosity to.   
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Dec 26, 2012 02:14
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Renoistic posted:Someone showed off Lightning's design from FFXIII before, so I figured I'd show her other designs as well so you guys have something to compare this monstrosity to. Totally hearing the "one of these things is not like the other" song right now.
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Dec 26, 2012 02:19
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Maybe Lightning's new focus is to be the worst dresser in all of  Pesky Splinter posted:[e]: Admittedly, he looks way less retarded when you play the game. Probably because the camera always shows people from the chest up.
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Dec 26, 2012 02:20
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Modern JRPGs have broken me to the point that that last one looks wrong to my brain. It just doesn't parse right, it looks too plausible to worn in real life for Lightning.
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Krad posted:Admittedly, he looks way less retarded when you play the game. Probably because the camera always shows people from the chest up. That and you don't see him a great deal I guess. But goddamn that artwork. It's just such a clusterfuck of belts, and metal and fur.
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Dec 26, 2012 02:23
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Brother Entropy posted:Modern JRPGs have broken me to the point that that last one looks wrong to my brain. It just doesn't parse right, it looks too plausible to worn in real life for Lightning. I'd definitely take the time to download it if S-E put it up as DLC, though.
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Dec 26, 2012 02:25
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For what little it's worth: Lightning gets different costumes and apparently you can change the colors too? She also has different weapons and shields (but these are apparently linked to her paradigms or whatever they call them here). The Famitsu article says that you can customize her appearance significantly, so it's theoretically possible that you can make her not look loving stupid as hell if you try hard enough. I'm kind of looking forward to this game because I really dig Majora's Mask and games with schedules like that. Let's hope that Lightning begins the game stuck in Mog form. e: VV I think you'll find that when they unveil her MEIDO costume, we'll be seeing an awful lot of that too. TurnipFritter fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Dec 26, 2012 |
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Dec 26, 2012 02:36
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TurnipFritter posted:For what little it's worth: Lightning gets different costumes and apparently you can change the colors too? She also has different weapons and shields (but these are apparently linked to her paradigms or whatever they call them here). The Famitsu article says that you can customize her appearance significantly, so it's theoretically possible that you can make her not look loving stupid as hell if you try hard enough. Yeah but this is what they'll be sticking on the game's cover and on every bit of marketing and promotional material.
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Dec 26, 2012 02:43
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TurnipFritter posted:For what little it's worth: Lightning gets different costumes and apparently you can change the colors too? She also has different weapons and shields (but these are apparently linked to her paradigms or whatever they call them here). The Famitsu article says that you can customize her appearance significantly, so it's theoretically possible that you can make her not look loving stupid as hell if you try hard enough. I tried that game with Sharla from Xenoblade. The only way to win is not to play. (Seriously, finding Sharla some pants was a game-spanning quest that never quite reached a conclusion)
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Oxxidation posted:I tried that game with Sharla from Xenoblade. The only way to win is not to play. I think she spent pretty much the entire game in a bikini in my game till I decided to stop caring about stats and put some pants on her. But seriously, Lightning's outfit. Its like she stepped out of a BDSM club and decided to go adventuring without going home to change clothes.
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Krad posted:Maybe Lightning's new focus is to be the worst dresser in all of
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Oxxidation posted:I tried that game with Sharla from Xenoblade. The only way to win is not to play. I thought moving her up in the armor class to heavy would let her have more conservative clothing but it only got worse  .Also I absolutely hate Lightnings new outfit. If their intent was to have some mash up of different traditional role outfits from FF and then have her switch to those in combat, then they failed horribly. The outfit makes no sense. Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Dec 26, 2012 |
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Calaveron posted:Yeah but this It also seems like it's going to be what she wears in cutscenes and the waiting/exploring moments. Y'know, the stuff that takes up far more time than combat. It's all well and good having less ridiculous attire for when you're fighting (and even then only sometimes), but when you're looking at the dumbest thing for 99% of the game, that 1% is hardly a defence. Or, arguably, even worth it.
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TurnipFritter posted:For what little it's worth: Lightning gets different costumes and apparently you can change the colors too? She also has different weapons and shields (but these are apparently linked to her paradigms or whatever they call them here). The Famitsu article says that you can customize her appearance significantly, so it's theoretically possible that you can make her not look loving stupid as hell if you try hard enough. I assume this just means you can find top hats and bow ties to put on her.
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Pesky Splinter posted:
The belts for his leg actually make sense. I mean it's a wooden leg since he lost his real one and they needed to strap it to his body. They were just really really really bad at fastening a fake leg. Calaveron posted:Her chestpiece looks like an apron She's supposed to go back in time to an alternate dimension where Guy Fieri has taken hold and become the One True Iron Chef. She must do battle with him in a multistaged cook-off. I mean why do you think she's equipped with a Wok and a multi-array chef's knife. The Taint Reaper fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Dec 26, 2012 |
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Dec 26, 2012 05:40
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It all starts innocently enough. Your parents die and then your sister starts wearing a cape and demanding that everyone call her Lightning. Next thing you know she is wearing strips of her old military uniform like a skirt over armored chaps, which makes sense to her because she accepted a Horse God into her soul. You let it slide because you have a side ponytail and she never mentions it.
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quote:Kitase guarantees you’ll be satisfied by the outcome of previous games’ characters’ stories. If it's "Everyone died on the way to their home planet except for Sazh and Fang" then count me in.
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Dec 26, 2012 09:40
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Hope was radical in 13-2, I want to see him again; and seeing Fang without Vanille wouldn't make sense.
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Azure_Horizon posted:From Famitsu on Lightning Returns: "Lightning’s new costume is designed by Tetsuya Nomura." No poo poo That said this is starting to look a bit like Legend of Final Fantasy Majora's Mask, which I can get behind
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Is Square Enix contractually obligated to mention Nomura's name at every available opportunity? It's the only plausible explanation, since I have a hard time believing that he's an actual selling point for the series. He isn't, is he? 
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Hedera Helix posted:Is Square Enix contractually obligated to mention Nomura's name at every available opportunity? It's the only plausible explanation, since I have a hard time believing that he's an actual selling point for the series. He isn't, is he? He was on the title screen of Final Fantasy XIII, and all he did was design the main characters' faces. Can you enter fights seamlessly in Lightning Returns? I mean, not like the old 'touch an enemy, get whisked off to battle arena'. More like Final Fantasy XII and Kingdom Hearts.
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