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To:UNEC RE: Spin I agree with the missile testing angle. The Ghostbuster neutralized the target, so there's no need to worry about suspicion, and since only one missile was fired, it looks like intentional weapons testing. Can't let the federation know we have idiots in control of the keys.
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To: UNEC Re: Spin Claiming it was a unilateral missile test will infuriate the Federation and could lead them to engage in unannounced tests of TNE missiles or a surprise first strike in the guise of an unannounced test which is particularly bad when we just received intelligence that they have an action plan ready to go. > Claim we where in the progress of dismantling some of our old missiles, as per the > old agreement, when a technician unfamiliar with the outdated technology caused > one of the empty rockets to fire. This is a good story to go with.
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bgreman posted:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuLIB8708NQsdHlkQ3FkaGFEM3BTWHpUX0VVczJzNkE thanks a bunch, honestly I feel a little bad making requests for information, I don't want to contribute to your workload and possibly add to the risk of burnout. I really want to see this LP go on. The lack of maintenance of the Berlin class looks really bad if I'm reading right. The annual failure rate for the 'UNS Berlin' expressed as 214 percent looks unbelievable. 'UNS Sofia', 'UNS Budapest' and 'UNS Warsaw' all look bad as well. I don't think the UN can depend on most of their cruisers to perform reliably for the next little while.
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From: Grand Administrator TildeATH To: UNEC Re: Spin Tell them we decided to kill them all in their beds, but then we changed our mind at the last minute.
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TO: Ceebees FROM: CMDR Reignonyourparade UNFRAD deputy. FW: RE: Missile Contact My recommendation is that, as the diplomatic consequences of conducting missile tests without giving notice outweigh the consequences acknowledging errors, the UberJew explanation is the thing to go with. It immediately explains what we're going to do to prevent this in the future, almost entirely eliminating the concerns this is going to cause.
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 MECHANICS EXPLANATION Average failure rate is not a measure of how likely the ship is to explode in a given year. It factors into that, but it's not the same. The average failure rate says how likely it is, on average, for a component, any component, to break down and need replacement in a year. This usually means a number of maintenance supplies on board the ship are consumed and everything else goes on like nothing happened. An AFR of 200% means that two modules will probably break in a year. Bigger ships generally have higher AFRs because there's more stuff to break down. What you want to be looking at is maintenance clock vs. estimated maintenance life. considering the Berlin itself will be entering refit prety short-term ish, we're pretty safe until ZEUS reaches maintenance capacity. I'm fine with the technician accidentally launching a missile that already had its warhead removed as a cover story.
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catfry posted:thanks a bunch, honestly I feel a little bad making requests for information, I don't want to contribute to your workload and possibly add to the risk of burnout. I really want to see this LP go on. Never hesitate to request information. It might take me a while to get to it, or I might tell you to wait for a time when it is scheduled to be provided (5-year status updates, yearly mineral updates, etc), but part of the fun of this game is the crunch, and I love data analysis. It also provides something to look at or think about in the lulls between updates. Regarding the actual data here, Innocent_Bystander is right. The AFR represents how likely a single maintenance failure is to happen in a one year period. 214% indicates you can expect two failures over the next 360 days. As long as the ship has the MSP to cover the failure, there's no problem. Running out of MSP on a high-AFR ship can be disastrous though.
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Thanks guys. From a resource utilization standpoint though, consumption of MSPs will go up as the maintenance clock goes up, so keeping the clock low would be less costly on an ongoing basis?
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bgremen, if we voted to start a state sponsored shipping company as a competitor to McK, would you be able/willing to do that? You mention not doing it for narrative reasons, but if we're able to dump $100B into a new company, I think it's worth considering.
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Things require spare parts (MSP) when they break down. If something breaks down and you don't have the MSP to cover it, then that component is broken and you need to return to a shipyard to repair it. If a broken component gets rolled to break down again and it has an explosion chance (engine, power plant, possibly magazines), then it will suffer a critical failure and the ship will blow up. Generally, if you don't have enough MSP to cover an engine failure (around 30 I think) you want to head to port immediately.
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Added Space posted:Things require spare parts (MSP) when they break down. If something breaks down and you don't have the MSP to cover it, then that component is broken and you need to return to a shipyard to repair it. If a broken component gets rolled to break down again and it has an explosion chance (engine, power plant, possibly magazines), then it will suffer a critical failure and the ship will blow up. Generally, if you don't have enough MSP to cover an engine failure (around 30 I think) you want to head to port immediately. This is almost right. When a maintenance failure occurs, it rolls a strength-2 hit on the Damage Allocation Chart (DAC), which is a weighted listing of all the components in the ship. If the result of the roll is a component that is already damaged, it will roll again. After some number of re-rolls (I want to say five, but I could be wrong) that land on any damaged part, it will stop rolling and simply blow up the entire ship. If any of those re-rolls lands on an undamaged part, that part suffers a maintenance failure and the process ends.
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From: Commander Mikl, 52 Europa To: UN mailing list Subject: news Uh, guys? Just so you know, Spacebook just went completely nuts with reports of the cold war suddenly going hot. It's all over Spwitter too. The hell's going on? We don't exactly get easy access to news outlets up here. You haven't started shooting at commies without telling us in the navy, have you?
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Mikl posted:From: Commander Mikl, 52 Europa Dr. Platypus's personal thoughts God, it's annoying that every company ever has adopted the space theme since we started colonizing. You can only eat so many spacemacs before the joke gets old.
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Gentlemen, I think the bigger issue than what we tell the Feds is what actually happened. The records indicate to me that the missile was not actually in firing mode when launched. The maintenance of these facilities has to be a serious issue. Bgreman, how long does it take to travel around to various points in the Solar System? It would help me if I knew how long my supply runs were taking, for instance.
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You are my hero. From: Discipuli LLSix To: UNEC Awards Committee Subject: Recent Fireworks I propose that a new medal be created and immediately be awarded to CMDR Raw_Beef, UNIN ID 541683294257. The "Nuclear Chaos" medal.  I suggest that the value of this award be either 50, or -10. You know, whichever.
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To:Ceebees Re: Start of Space War One I don't think there's any reason not to tell the truth: An ICBM commander, acting alone and not following protocol, reacted to a radar malfunction by firing a single missile. Upon realizing his mistake he notified his superiors, who decided to shoot the missile down. The officer will be disciplined appropriately. We deeply apologize. Also we should probably decommission all of our ICBM bases.
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FROM: The Desk of Lt. General berryjon TO: UNIN RE: Raw_Beef I know I have no authority over CMDR Raw_Beef, but I can think of a few uses for him. Live fire target practice for one. But for the love of all that's human, REMOVE HIM FROM COMMAND, please.
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berryjon posted:FROM: The Desk of Lt. General berryjon If you do this, make sure that his removal is as public as possible.
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Dr. Snark posted:If you do this, make sure that his removal is as public as possible. There's "punish the responsible"and then there's "methinks the lady doth protest too much." There's a long history of near Armageddon incidents, and he won't be the last.
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Dr. Snark posted:If you do this, make sure that his removal is as public as possible. And remember, he's never going to get a space or PDC command EVER again, we don't need incidents like this, can you imagine if he was in command of a ship and we made first contact with aliens? It would be like Babylon 5 except in real life! (Just so you know Raw_Beef this is all in character, we all still you love, except in character  )The internet is lighting up with reports about what happened, Speddit is going bonkers, 4Space is preparing to mobilize it's hacker legions, Spacetube has dozens of videos of the missile being blown up, and my mother is posting comments about hows she's worried on Spacebook. Lets pack up these antiquated silos and sell them on Spacebay, I hear vintage silos make good money in auctions. Meanwhile, we need to figure out how to keep our men entertained in their bunkers and bases, does their internet have a good connection for Spaceporn, Xspace or Redspace? We need to keep our soldiers entertained so they don't start pressing buttons again. Also as a precaution with our remaining silos, I'm putting forward the motion that a launch requirement requires unanimous council approval and codes to allow the firing mechanism to activate.
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FROM: Grand Administrator TildeATH, Patriot TO: Light General berryjon's desk RE: Raw_Beef I think this true patriot, one of the few military commanders not smitten by the oily tongue of the Federation "peacemakers", should be rewarded, not punished! If he is to be stripped of command, I hope a place can be found for him on Mimas, drilling paramilitary nuclear saboteurs for the coming war against the Evil Federation. When I finally am installed as Overlord of my own world, I pledge it will become a safe haven for all oppressed patriots who support the Empire of the United Nations with decisive military action, especially those slandered by the mainstream media and political appointees and copperheads that riddle the crooked timber of the United Nations! FROM: Grand Administrator TildeATH, Patriot TO: True Patriot Raw_Beef SUBJECT: Mimas, the Eagle's Roost Brave patriot, know that you have the support of the true supporters of the United Nations. Here on Mimas, we've heard reports of what really happened, that you wanted to derail the Titan Capitulation by shaking the mailed fist of the mighty United Nations at the reptilian Federats! If the cowardly military command of the United Nations feels it needs to emasculate itself and kowtow to the Federation Snake Pit and sacrifice you, a true patriot, then know that you will always have a home among fellow patriots here on Mimas. I apologize that the only two television channels we get are The Homestarrunner Network and The Homestarrunner Network with Punjabi subtitles, but what we lack in entertainment, non-urine-flavored water, and living space, we make up for with respect for true patriots like yourself. United Nations Uber Alles!
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To: Councilor Ynkling, Director of UNSA From: Dr. Unwanted Platypus, Re: Committees I believe it would be best if the committees were broken up and one person was put in charge of one committee. This is starting to affect the efficiency of my research because voidshipbuilding is a relatively extremely young field. As such, I must frequently request potentially dangerous or rare substances for testing. This requires me to send the request and paperwork to Dr. MagicBoots for confirmation. As I am sure he is
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From: Dr.MagicBoots, Deputy Director of UNSA, Head of JPC, ISEI-C, and TNDSI To: UNSA The recent scare over our accidental missile launch has caused some of our researchers to request vacation time in order to be with their families. As such the research timeline will need to be adjusted to deal with these staffing issues: Before Dr. Scribbleykins finished his JP research ISEI-C: Dr.Barrelfox - 8 Labs - Shipbuilding optimization TNDSI: Myself - 3 labs - Duranium armor JPC: Dr. Scribbleykins - 10 labs (assuming you appropriate 5 of the current 15) - Jump radius research After Dr. Scribbleykins finished his JP research ISEI-C: Dr. Scribbleykins - 8 Labs - Shipbuilding optimization TNDSI: Myself - 10 labs - Duranium armor JPC: Dr.Barrelfox - 3 labs - Jump "Gates" research MagicBoots fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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TildeATH posted:From: Grand Administrator TildeATH bgreman posted:
From: UNFRAD Councilor Ceebees To: From: FAUN Eduard Ignatov Re: Missile Contact More information will be provided to the FEAN in the spirit of cooperation as the investigation progresses but immediately, what is known is as follows: At 11:45 UTC, an unknown error caused a Minuteman-IV pre-TN ICBM to launch from an offshore missile base near Japan; computer error is suspected, though maintenance failure or fatal user error remain possibilities under examination. The missile's warhead was neither armed nor locked onto a target, causing the weapon to travel on a path heading out of Earth's atmosphere and orbit. Sensor analysis confirmed that the missile was of a make not in use by any other power, and so UN Missile Command elected to eliminate the rogue weapon with the UN's Meson Defence Grid to ensure it's immediate destruction. All other missile bases are on lockdown, and their value as training commands is being re-assessed in light of today's events. UNFRAD will reply to any queries the Federation has with all possible haste, and the Embassy in Moscow is at your service. message ends
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bgreman posted:Part of me wishes this was the UN I had invented for this thread. Oh, don't worry; we still have plenty of time to run the UN into the ground.
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From: Councilor DagPenge To: UNEC Subject: Missile launch HOLY poo poo that was a close one, good thing we didn't upgrade our missiles to TN, if we had that missiles would have been there in what? 10 sec flat with no time to react! This is in fact a major problem, if the Feds use TN warheads, then we'll barely have time to launch our missiles before they strike. This is a major problem since this means we really don't have time to verify a launch which leads to the problems we saw today. Could the UNIN please comment on this? Is this how it works? In any case Raw_Beef should have seen that a single missile launch from the enemy is most likely an error and not an attack! How come that all I see from our missile bases are training drills and yet this stuff still happens! We need an investigation into this quickly and also who the hell put TildeATH in charge of anything, that woman is insane
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DagPenge posted:who the hell put TildeATH in charge of anything, that woman is insane I did. Please note that is our farthest holding from Earth. For training, of course.
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DagPenge posted:who the hell put TildeATH in charge of anything, that woman is insane Won't lie, we had to make certain.....concessions to certain powerful individuals in various countries to get them to join us and to step aside and allow democratic processes in their countries. The main thing we had to promise was spectacular palaces and an orbital body to allow them to rule on. Fortunately, we inserted a nice little clause in there that says we can assign them Anywhere. As Added Space noted, TildeATH is on the furthest rock possible with pretty much no authority, and thats how it will remain for her and the other dictators we con out of their countries. Democracy people, it works! 
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re: The response time issue. Is the response time against TNE missiles really that bad, you ask? Yep. And that's why we can't afford to run launch authorisation through a unanimous UNEC vote. Or any UNEC vote. The time on some guy sending a call to us, the signal reaching us, and one of us hearing the ringtone more or less seals the deal. Fortunately, a ghostbuster has a 20% chance to hit a target going at 20.000 km/s, which is pretty decent. Speaking of which, considering how small and cheap they are, we should build more ghostbusters, how about one for every remaining missile base we have, and we decommision the missile bases as the new ghostbusters come online?
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re: Upgrades to current Earth defenses. As someone who was transferred to Snowshovel from a Ghostbuster base, I think I can safely say that upgrading the remaining bases to Ghostbuster bases would do wonders for morale; no-one likes to sit on what is, essentially, a giant, nuclear-powered target, surrounded by steadily deteriortet equipment that was obsolete back in the dark ages of the oughts. In short, myself and my crew are all for it. PS: Thank you for the expedited supply drop. PPS: While it must be admitted that CMDR Raw_Beef might not have excersized absolutely flawless judgement by running the live fire test, I would point out that the incident constituted a very bracing training exercise. My crew is more motivated at this point than I've seen since I got here. TLM3101 fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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FROM: CMDR yinette, C.O. ILB Missile Complex Hartford TO: ALL CREW (ILB MC HARTFORD) RE: A fun little reminder Sorry to impose this on you guys, this 'little reminder' is compulsory to all the old missile complexes at the moment. I'm sure you're all aware of events of recent times. Granted we're human, and humans make mistakes, but this 'mistake' could have seriously .. well, it goes without saying. Thankfully we could shoot the thing down before it put an eye out. Trust me, you don't want to be stuck down here when it's all just nuclear dust and fire above. All I'm asking is please please PLEASE think before you act. If you're tired, sleep, we have duty rosters for a reason. You are no good to us tired. Just a quick reminder, we'll be running some training exercises in the next few weeks, so don't say I didn't warn you. My recommendation is to read up on Emergency Action Messages, we rely heavily on these during exercises and will do if the real thing happens. As a side note, does anyone have any ideas on upgrading these dick old systems from 32-bit? I don't want to be around them in early 2038... CMDR yinette
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From: Grand Administrator TildeATH To: Councilor DagPenge Subject: Insane Turn on Starfox News some time, Councilor, and you'll see that there are millions of true patriots who aren't buying the lamestream media's take on your concessionary attitude. That's why Rush Limbaugh III refers to you as "Concessioner DagPenge of the United Stations" on his nationally syndicated SpaceTube channel. His latest, which received 27m views in the first 6 hours, was titled, "Raw_Beef: Why the Russo-Tibetan-Hindus can't handle our Steak Tartar!" received more views, likes and spacethumbs than the Bollywood remake of Gangnam Style the Musical. I dislike being referred to as crazy when I represent a significant portion of the very people you've pledged to serve, unless your idea of democracy is to only represent the Fabian Federales in your ongoing quest to surrender our great empire to the vile Federation. OOC: I think I might be Space Ann Coulter and Space Sarah Palin... I can see the Federation from my front porch!
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Volmarias posted:bgremen, if we voted to start a state sponsored shipping company as a competitor to McK, would you be able/willing to do that? You mention not doing it for narrative reasons, but if we're able to dump $100B into a new company, I think it's worth considering. Submit it to the General Assembly! Fell Fire posted:Bgreman, how long does it take to travel around to various points in the Solar System? It would help me if I knew how long my supply runs were taking, for instance. Jupiter is currently at about just past minimum distance it gets from Earth, and getting closer for the next few days. This is about 630m km. At 1000 kps, that is 7 days 7 hours. McKiernan's Ascendancy-class colony ships (max speed 310 kps), which do the bulk of our colonist lifting, make the trip in about 23.5 days. When Earth is opposite the sun from Jupiter, this adds about 300m km, making the trip take nearly 11 days at 1000 kps. Saturn is also currently close to its closest distance of the year, which is about 1285m km. This trip takes almost 15 days at 1000 kps. When Earth opposes Saturn, again, this adds 300m km, so the one-way trip at that time takes just over 18 days at 1000 kps. Mars varies between 78m and 378m km away, for trip times between 22 hours (at closest) and 4 days 9 hours (at furthest) (1000 kps). The UN's most distant holding, the Kuiper Belt Object Wodan, lies nearly 11.5 billion km from Earth. A trip out takes almost four and a half months.  Edit: Thread Updates I've had a pair of ideas that might allow people with more boring assignments to participate in some fashion. Naval and ground commanders will be allowed to maintain a staff. The first rank that can become an in-game character is Commander, but the UN also has a large junior officer staff (ensigns, lieutenants, and lieutenant-commanders), as well as warrant officers and enlisted void sailors (someone figure out a good short name for ship crewman!). Under this scheme, in-game goons of rank CMDR/Colonel will be able to maintain a staff of three (sensors, helm/navigator, weapons/survey, engineering, comms, etc for naval officers; logistics, sub-formation officers, etc for ground officers). Goons rank Captain or higher may add one extra staff officer as XO. The max rank of any of these staff members will be Lt. Cmdr. Whenever an in-game goon is promoted, so will all his staff members be bumped up one tick. This can result in staff Lt. Cmdrs. being promoted to becoming in-game Commanders. At this point the goon must relinquish his narrative control over that officer, but may choose a new one. Civil Administrators and Scientists may have staffs as well (aides, attachés, post-docs, lab technicians, etc). These will be promoted whenever a civil administrator of scientists has a stats gain. All these characters will be noted in the "notes" section of your commanders. Inspiration for this idea came from Triggerhappypilot's narrative post regarding the missile launch. bgreman fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Ceebees posted:I like the cut of your jib. We find it troubling that your ICBMs are in a state such that an unauthorized launch can happen at all. If all UN military assets are operated in this fashion, the world could be in substantial peril. However, we trust that it is the aging nature of these installations that caused the fault, and gently remind you that the Federation dismantled its pre-TN installations several years ago. It is fortunate that your anti-ballistic missile defense network operated so efficiently. We would be interested to know more details of its operation, as it constitutes a substantial threat to the military balance of power on Earth. berryjon posted:Interesting. I'll have to run Just noting that these are fictional characters that will be passively tracked by me. Just another extra flavor axis for goons to use if they choose.
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FROM: CMDR SHADOWING TO: UNEC RE: SHITSTORM I'm guessing from how interested the Federation is in the Meson Defense Grid that they have nothing of the sort themselves, which in essence means that CMDR (and I use that term loosely) Raw_Beef didn't just publicly humiliate us, he also forced us to expose a major strategic advantage that, until now, had been secret. The latrines are too good for him.
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