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flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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thedouche posted:

I've always gotten around this by setting the tv to letter boxed wide screen mode when necessary. It annoyed the gently caress out of me with my 360 at first (to play in 1080i, widescreen is your only option) because my Samsung CRT had some weird rainbow lines in the letterbox, but I got used to it pretty fast though (I got the TV for use with my original Xbox and the jump from regular television to 480p component was loving amazing. Going from 480p to 1080i for the 360 was a nice jump too. I imagine I'll really freak out when someday I'm about 2 resolutions behind with 720p).

1080i requires widescreen because by the HD standards it must be a 16:9 picture. 480p though is one of those really stupid accidents because standards makers are morons where it is define as being 4:3, 5:3, 3:2 and 16:9 :psypop:

Thank gently caress ATSC became the standard and manufacturers decided to standardize 720/1080 way clearer than 480p. Here's hoping they keep that up with 4k tvs.

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Baldrash
Oct 26, 2005

WendigoJohnson posted:

Someone gave me a list of 25 SNES games that are under 5 bucks and are rather good games, so I'm pretty much going off of that for the time being. I'm almost to 30 games for the system.

Any chance you could share that list? My SNES collection is pretty small, and while it's mighty (Contra 3, Secret of Mana, SMRPG, Metroid, Zelda:LttP, etc,) some lower-cost games that are still good would be awesome.

h_double
Jul 27, 2001

ohnoitschris posted:

Oh boy, the only chance I get to mention this lovely thing I have:



That is a $70 controller that had support cut for it after Windows 98. That is a $70 controller that looks about a hundred times better than it actually is. That is a $70 controller from the days when SNES emulation was new, with enough buttons to properly control SNES games (before PSX adapters were around), but worked like poo poo because of that loving tilted D-pad. Did I mention it was $70? Which as a kid is like six months worth of pay today?

I had one of the first generation Sidewinder gamepads, it had a terrible D-pad but by the standards of the day it was otherwise not an entirely terrible controller:



This was a couple of years before USB had caught on, so you had to have a sound card with the big 15 pin D-SUB "game port" connector. The face buttons were mostly okay, though I forget what the deal was with that button marked "M" at the bottom center, I think it wasn't mappable for some reason.

Anyway I had the Sidewinder for a few months until it stopped working for some reason. I figured I'd go buy another one, since as you said, this was the early days of emulation and there weren't a lot of other options. I went to the store and found it had been phased out in favor of this thing:




What the hell 90s.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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So I never knew these existed, maybe you didn't either but the entire BS Zelda: Legend of the Stone Tablets is translated and really fun to play

http://bszelda.zeldalegends.net/bszelda.shtml

They get around the whole audio broadcast thing by having text at the bottom of the screen which will tell you what they were saying. It does some really interesting things while playing such as randomly giving you unlimited arrows, enemies will always drop rupees and one time my avatar was making GBS threads fairies out. It plays unlike any other Zelda in that it gives you some random items to start with and has a goal you must get to so like you start with a bottle with a fairy, bombs, boomerang and the ocarina. Then you're off to find the other stuff on your own.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug
loving angled D-pads, man. I'm pretty sure I still have one of these:



hanging around somewhere (from late 90's / early 00's) and it never felt 'right'. Hell of a lot better than KB for emulation, though.

h_double
Jul 27, 2001
I still have a Wingman Rumble, which as you can see has a garbage D-pad and questionable buttons, but that throttle slider was pretty cool for flight/space sims.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

But Rocks Hurt Head posted:

loving angled D-pads, man. I'm pretty sure I still have one of these:



hanging around somewhere (from late 90's / early 00's) and it never felt 'right'. Hell of a lot better than KB for emulation, though.

This seriously made my hands cramp up just looking at it :gonk:

h_double
Jul 27, 2001

Code Jockey posted:

This seriously made my hands cramp up just looking at it :gonk:

Sorry I guess you're just not Extreme enough :smug:

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




flyboi posted:

krikzz posted pics of the final pcb for the famicom everdrive
http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=126.msg2643#msg2643

Looks like it has 4mbit for CHR and PRG so it should be able to support every size of official rom out there. Dunno if any hacks go bigger though.

IIRC that Chinese pirate cart of Final Fantasy VII, as well as some multi-game carts, go over a meg, but that's it.

A related question: I remember krikzz was intending to make a 60-pin Famicom and 72-pin NES variant on his NES/Famicom flash cart. Does anyone know if there's something specific that the larger NES model would be capable of that the 60-pin would NOT be capable of, or is the 60-pin board+adapter, assuming it boots, theoretically sufficient?

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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univbee posted:

IIRC that Chinese pirate cart of Final Fantasy VII, as well as some multi-game carts, go over a meg, but that's it.

A related question: I remember krikzz was intending to make a 60-pin Famicom and 72-pin NES variant on his NES/Famicom flash cart. Does anyone know if there's something specific that the larger NES model would be capable of that the 60-pin would NOT be capable of, or is the 60-pin board+adapter, assuming it boots, theoretically sufficient?

Not positive about the Famicom to NES converters but I do know the NES to Famicom converters have a hell of a time working with the powerpak. On top of this the sd slot is on the side of the cart which could cause issues inserting into a NES.

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010

Code Jockey posted:

This seriously made my hands cramp up just looking at it :gonk:

Not as badly as mine cramped up after playing the tank battle game on Atari 2600 for 30 minutes with my wife. Those Atari joysticks took some serious hand strength.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

h_double posted:

I still have a Wingman Rumble, which as you can see has a garbage D-pad and questionable buttons, but that throttle slider was pretty cool for flight/space sims.

I had that too, as well as the original Sidewinder. I liked them both a lot at the time

Caitlin
Aug 18, 2006

When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

Zombie_Chow posted:

Has anyone tried the Retrobright method to "whiten" their old consoles? I got an AV Famicom and the poor guy looks super gray compared to the photos I see on the internet so I'd like to try it :(

Yes, to the exact same console, except I just did it as a bath instead of a gel.

This was from the home of a heavy smoker, I should note.

vv No poo poo but this one was covered in nicotine tar that had stained it.

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jyrque
Sep 4, 2011

Gravy Boat 2k
Consoles becoming yellow over time is not due to smoking near it. It's the plastic oxidizing over time. :eng101:

Speaking of crummy console quality, what's the most efficient way to clean a whole Mega Drive? I bought one some time ago and it's covered in a thin layer of gooey solution of greasy crud. I want to pick it apart and wash the shell with dish soap, it's that disgusting.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




flyboi posted:

the sd slot is on the side of the cart which could cause issues inserting into a NES.

poo poo, I didn't even think of this!

redmercer
Sep 15, 2011

by Fistgrrl

jyrque posted:

I want to pick it apart and wash the shell with dish soap, it's that disgusting.

Well, there's your solution. I suggest getting an anti-static bag to keep the guts in while you do it. Also, I'm pretty sure it's not dishwasher-safe. Here's a guide to taking it apart. Super easy, only thing that looks remotely tricky is taking the LED off

jyrque
Sep 4, 2011

Gravy Boat 2k

redmercer posted:

Well, there's your solution. I suggest getting an anti-static bag to keep the guts in while you do it. Also, I'm pretty sure it's not dishwasher-safe. Here's a guide to taking it apart. Super easy, only thing that looks remotely tricky is taking the LED off

Well, that's a handy guide and even the model is (apart from Genesis <-> Mega Drive localiation) the same. Thanks!

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

flyboi posted:

Not positive about the Famicom to NES converters but I do know the NES to Famicom converters have a hell of a time working with the powerpak. On top of this the sd slot is on the side of the cart which could cause issues inserting into a NES.

Really? I found it to be the opposite. My PowerPak turns on every single time in my AV Famicom using an adapter; even when actual NES games will not. A few weeks ago I had asked everyone here why my copy of Mega Man 2 works perfectly in my toaster but won't work in my AV Famicom with the adapter. No one really knew. Anyway, the game played just fine when using the PowerPak. I've actually never had the PowerPak not boot up in my Famicom.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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I love how when some people in this thread would see a mod like this would throw away the console because it isn't in a straight line. Any-who redoing my s-vid genny tonight after work.

testtubebaby
Apr 7, 2008

Where we're going,
we won't need eyes to see.


Is that a VGA port?

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.

No, it's a 9-pin serial.

Stoomie
Sep 16, 2008

Stoomie posted:

Maybe you guys can help me make out what games are in this low resolution pic!



Ineffiable posted:

From top left to bottom right:

Triple Play 2000, Star Wars Episode 1 Racer, Madden 2000
Mario Kart 64, Donkey Kong 64, Star Fox 64
NFL Quarterback Club 99, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie
Super Mario 64, 1080 Snowboarding, Pokemon Stadium 2
NBA Live 99, NHL 99, and Pokemon Stadium 1

Sorta beaten by one minute, but I cross checked all the sports titles, and my list is 100% correct. :smug:

So I grabbed this today from local Craigslist for $60. It's hard to make out in the picture but it's got the Expansion Pack as well as the Transfer Pak. Are lovely sports games desirable as donors for anything? Also, as can be expected, the joysticks are more worn out than a retired porn star, what's the best place to get the parts to repair them?

The console also seems sketchy at best about getting it to boot the games right so I assume it needs a good cleaning, how are people doing that these days?

Stoomie fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jan 31, 2013

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
Hey does the retrobright stuff work for the game cartriges themselves? Because one of the games I ordered arrived looking like a cat peed all over it. I never undertsood how people allow their animals to piss/deficate and destroy their games. None of my pets have ever done anything like that.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug
Man, nothing like seeing 3-5 regional vintage and retro stores advertising in the VG Craigslist section to affirm that you'll never find anything good on your own there.

Caitlin
Aug 18, 2006

When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

WendigoJohnson posted:

Hey does the retrobright stuff work for the game cartriges themselves? Because one of the games I ordered arrived looking like a cat peed all over it. I never undertsood how people allow their animals to piss/deficate and destroy their games. None of my pets have ever done anything like that.

Yes, just be careful about your label.

Biff Rockgroin
Jun 17, 2005

Go to commercial!


Stoomie posted:

Also, as can be expected, the joysticks are more worn out than a retired porn star, what's the best place to get the parts to repair them?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/290796251684?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

This was posted earlier in the thread, but I bought one recently to put in my Ice Blue controller and it works great. Took me about ten minutes all together, but that's only because I removed all the buttons on the controller to give them a good wash because apparently whoever owned the controller before me excreted maple syrup out of their thumbs.

Feels like a brand new controller now.

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

I seem to recall someone was talking about a set of game bits that were supposedly made of a stronger material than the normal ones, so they'd last a lot longer. Does anyone remember if this was a thing and where to get them?

Also, I wanted to do a quick run of the pawn shops around the city today, but it ended up being utterly freezing out to the point where I just wanted to stay inside and browse ebay instead. I'm sure there's a joke to be made there about first-world retrogaming problems.

Stoomie posted:

Are lovely sports games desirable as donors for anything? Also, as can be expected, the joysticks are more worn out than a retired porn star, what's the best place to get the parts to repair them?

I've seen this thing suggested twice now, it definitely looks good in ease of installation and use, but I haven't sprung for one yet myself, so I can't guarantee it'll be just as accurate in real gameplay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290796251684?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Edit: Beaten by two seconds.

Midnight Raider fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Jan 31, 2013

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Well, this is fun. Ordered 25 Universal Game Cases from a Canadian distributor (the U.S. ones charge more on shipping than on the product itself and would have been way too expensive) and just got them today. Turns out there's a variation on the UGCs that doesn't have the outer sleeve to slip box art into. :negative:

Hit or miss Clitoris
Apr 19, 2003
I HAVE BEEN A VERY NAUGHTY BOY

univbee posted:

Well, this is fun. Ordered 25 Universal Game Cases from a Canadian distributor (the U.S. ones charge more on shipping than on the product itself and would have been way too expensive) and just got them today. Turns out there's a variation on the UGCs that doesn't have the outer sleeve to slip box art into. :negative:

Looks like you're going to have to use glue or cement. You know the 25 games you put in them are never going to leave those cases anyway.

kynikos
Aug 15, 2001

Midnight Raider posted:

I seem to recall someone was talking about a set of game bits that were supposedly made of a stronger material than the normal ones, so they'd last a lot longer. Does anyone remember if this was a thing and where to get them?

I have these guys and they seem to be pretty solid.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

kynikos posted:

I have these guys and they seem to be pretty solid.

Oh man, they remade the bits with longer shafts. Looks like I'm buying another set. Newelectronx bits are pretty tough and the ones I have now are still in great shape. Durable for sure.

Stoomie
Sep 16, 2008
I think this has been brought up before, but gently caress Gamestop and their stupid stickers, and gently caress the guy who plastered them over the labels on these N64 games.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:
Oh yeah, I forgot. I paid Tenso this morning to ship my XRGB Mini I bought from Amazon.co.jp. For those wondering, the total cost was $382.77 USD. ($335 to Amazon and $47.77 to Tenso to cover their usage charge, shipping through EMS plus insurance.)

ChaiCalico
May 23, 2008

But Rocks Hurt Head posted:

loving angled D-pads, man. I'm pretty sure I still have one of these:



hanging around somewhere (from late 90's / early 00's) and it never felt 'right'. Hell of a lot better than KB for emulation, though.

Oh poo poo i had one of these also for emulation. I worked at best buy at the time and i think it was ~$40 so i used it for longer than I should of even though it sucked.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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My test Famicom disk came from Japan today. Well look at that sealed in box!


...oh Japan :downs:



I'm sure the game itself won't be worth the shipping costs from Japan for a $1 game.

Tyson Tomko
May 8, 2005

The Problem Solver.
^^^^^^^^^
Haha is that Ultraman?

Speaking of 60-72 pin converters, it took me foreverrrr to get a hold of one. So long in fact, that looking back on it it would have probably been easier and maybe cheaper to fork out the $50+ on ebay. I got borderline obsessed with looking at NES launch titles both in person and online for the drat adapter. Every shop or flea market I'd go to I would catch myself comparing weights or trying to look and see the subtle pin difference.

After almost countless attempts and disappointment, one fateful day at Goodwill finally turned everything around. It was a copy of Excitebike that was in their glass display case priced very fairly at $3. I got home, took out those 5 screws in record time, and BOOYEAH saw that big rear end converter and proceeded to celebrate playing one half of my entire Famicom game
collection: Alien 3.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
I don't know if it's a thing or not, but I have a copy of Jak II that was made with half the game missing. You get to a platforming section and you go up on these floating rocks, and the rock just keeps going and going and you just enter this void. At this point you can't go back and you can only die by falling, but it puts you back at the checkpoint so you can't progress any further. Now I know it's the disc because I bought another copy of Jak II and got past that point in the game. However upon putting my original disc back with the updated save the area I'm in is an empty flat plane room that goes on forever. I will literally run forever on the flat plane and nothing is there, you even won't hit a wall.

The Taint Reaper fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Feb 1, 2013

Bing the Noize
Dec 21, 2008

by The Finn
Didn't realize a bunch of NES games with Famicom adapters were listed with "famicom" just thrown in the title. Ended up picking the cheapest out of the lot available and got a Pinball with a 60 to 72 pin for $17 shipped. How did I not think of that earlier?

Is it true that these cartridges always use different screws than the normal gamebit? I don't even have a gamebit screwdriver yet.

Bing the Noize fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Feb 1, 2013

Obeast
Aug 26, 2006
Õ_~ ANIME BABE LOVER 2000 ~_Õ

ACID POLICE posted:

Is it true that these cartridges always use different screws than the normal gamebit? I don't even have a gamebit screwdriver yet.
As far as I know, all 5 screw carts do use the flathead screws (unless someone switched them with the special screws for whatever reason). I think some early 3 screw carts use the flathead screws (I have a 3 screw cart of Golf with them), but most of those use the special screws.

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Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

ACID POLICE posted:

Didn't realize a bunch of NES games with Famicom adapters were listed with "famicom" just thrown in the title. Ended up picking the cheapest out of the lot available and got a Pinball with a 60 to 72 pin for $17 shipped. How did I not think of that earlier?

Is it true that these cartridges always use different screws than the normal gamebit? I don't even have a gamebit screwdriver yet.

I just stole your advice. My pinball copy was 24 bucks though. Ah, well, now I can play some Mystery of Atlantis.

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