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Conquistador posted:I keep seeing spinoffs mentioned in this thread, what is the realistic chance that we'd get something set in this universe by the same producers? I assume the show is popular enough that they'd at least want to milk this for all its worth. They've already said they're interested in doing a spin-off with Caesar. I'm assuming they're waiting to see how well this season does and how well the actor is perceived.
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This episode was really hard to watch at parts, especially the tortured blonde roman woman that Ceasar put out of her misery. I was affraid that for a moment he would do as he was asked just to fit in even more, but when he started tearing up and gave her at least some much needed comfort before ending her suffering, it made Ceasar cool in my eyes. It made him seem more than some impulsive playboy with no emotions as I had feared.
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Feb 23, 2013 19:08
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muscles like this? posted:They've already said they're interested in doing a spin-off with Caesar. I'm assuming they're waiting to see how well this season does and how well the actor is perceived. I want a spinoff where Gannicus becomes a Highlander and has adventures throughout all of time.
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Feb 23, 2013 19:09
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Zzulu posted:Good brutal episode. I always wanted to like Crixus and I did like Naevia in S1 but it seems now the showrunners are just determined to make me want them dead Well much if it how they decided to make the basic show arc follow the actual history of the revolt The historical Crixus eventually stuck out on his own with his band of Gauls
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Feb 23, 2013 19:17
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etalian posted:
I thought they covered that last season by having Crixus leading his own band of merry men until he and Sparty teamed up to free Naevia.
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Feb 23, 2013 19:20
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Irish Joe posted:I thought they covered that last season by having Crixus leading his own band of merry men until he and Sparty teamed up to free Naevia. Events of this week's episode sure makes it look like Crixus is going to be ditching out on his own again.
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Feb 23, 2013 19:21
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The episode also solved the Caesar knife scene riddle.
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Feb 23, 2013 19:58
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Caesar is quickly becoming my favorite here. One episode and he has everyone at the opposing site at each other's throats. Also, gently caress Naevia and Crixus. "I owe everything to Spartacus...but screw him!" *repeats fifty times* DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Feb 23, 2013 |
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Feb 23, 2013 19:58
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DarkCrawler posted:Caesar is quickly becoming my favorite here. One episode and he has everyone at the opposing site at each other's throats. Yeah he seemed somewhat boring in his debut episode but the recent episode made him much more interesting as a opponent. He sort of fills the Ashur glorious scheming niche as someone who sows dissension and gets people to distrust each other as his primary ability.
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Feb 23, 2013 20:13
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One thing I noticed about Caesar is that all his lines had a good "I want to kill my enemy, but I'm not saying who my enemy is because it's you" quality about them.
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Feb 23, 2013 20:25
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Democratic Pirate posted:One thing I noticed about Caesar is that all his lines had a good "I want to kill my enemy, but I'm not saying who my enemy is because it's you" quality about them. Virtually every line everyone says in this show is a double entendre. What I actually noticed this episode is that I was hearing a lot of lines I could swear I've heard before. I guess that 4 seasons in the writers are running out of steam a bit with the dialogue.
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Feb 23, 2013 20:32
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etalian posted:The episode also solved the Caesar knife scene riddle. Wait did I miss something? Was the penis knife riddle just him getting the slave mark so he could later infiltrate? I was expecting some horrible STD or a very primitive penis reduction surgery (so he could avoid the fate of all characters with large penii).
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Feb 23, 2013 20:39
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Science posted:Wait did I miss something? Was the penis knife riddle just him getting the slave mark so he could later infiltrate? Caesar got into city by claiming he cut off his slave mark which explains the confusing knife scene from the pilot.
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Feb 23, 2013 20:48
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Also, for anyone who doesn't know, the reason why Caesar doesn't like Cilicians.quote:On the way across the Aegean Sea,[28] Caesar was kidnapped by Cilician pirates and held prisoner in the Dodecanese islet of Pharmacusa.[29] He maintained an attitude of superiority throughout his captivity. When the pirates thought to demand a ransom of twenty talents of silver, he insisted they ask for fifty.[30][31] After the ransom was paid, Caesar raised a fleet, pursued and captured the pirates, and imprisoned them in Pergamon. Marcus Junctus, the governor of Asia, refused to execute them as Caesar demanded, preferring to sell them as slaves,[32] but Caesar returned to the coast and had them crucified on his own authority, as he had promised while in captivity[33]—a promise the pirates had taken as a joke. As a sign of leniency, he first had their throats cut.
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Feb 23, 2013 21:03
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Alchenar posted:Virtually every line everyone says in this show is a double entendre. I'm just glad we got to hear a "Jupiter's Cock" again. It's been awhile.
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Feb 23, 2013 22:12
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The "undefeated Gaul" sure does get his rear end kicked a lot.VDay posted:Is the dude playing the guy that Caesar befriended/tricked Robert Redford's son or something? I seriously can't not see him as that whenever he's in a scene and it's distracting as hell. 
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Feb 23, 2013 23:23
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Chef Bromden posted:The "undefeated Gaul" sure does get his rear end kicked a lot. His injury in season 1 greatly reduced his character stats.
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Irish Joe posted:I thought they covered that last season by having Crixus leading his own band of merry men until he and Sparty teamed up to free Naevia. Except that historically Crixus dies after he splits off from Spartacus, so they had to find a way to cause a rift between both of them so Crixus could go off and get himself killed.
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Feb 23, 2013 23:58
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I think it's pretty clear that as far as the show is concerned, this is the setting for Spartacus's endgame. We're not going to see him getting chased up and down Italy. In fact I'm pretty sure this episode I heard Crassus hint at his 'preparations' (ie. the wall pinning the slaves in).
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I did find it a bit strange how shaken Caesar was with the woman he mercy killed but then instigating a city wide Roman-Purge and indirectly causing the deaths of almost all remaining romans there
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Feb 24, 2013 00:45
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etalian posted:His injury in season 1 greatly reduced his character stats. And Gannicus was always better.
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Aphrodite posted:And Gannicus was always better. Gannicus has one of the most overpowered special rules in Spartacus, followed by Spartacus. Crixus' is poo poo by comparison so its no surprise Gannicus was rolling him.
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Feb 24, 2013 01:22
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The show has always been biased against sword and shield characters. Spartacus sucked too before he switched to a duel-wielding build.
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Scoobi posted:Gannicus has one of the most overpowered special rules in Spartacus, followed by Spartacus. Crixus' is poo poo by comparison so its no surprise Gannicus was rolling him. The Spartacus tie-in board game is pretty awesome.
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Feb 24, 2013 02:51
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Oenomaus would have slaughtered them all if didn't have that one poo poo unlucky dice roll while fighting a dude wearing eyeliner.
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Feb 24, 2013 03:14
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"The Edial's wife saw them free!" and "He was my friend you mad bitch!" May be up there as two of my favorite lines/deliveries of the series.
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Man I am right there with you. She was my #2 to die after killing Attius last week but since Tiberius was forced to beat his Crixus hasn't grown as a character but I have no problem with that. Remember, he's the guy who wouldn't get on board with the revolution until not only did they rip his love away to be tortured but when they poised his rear end. Even after Naevia was ripped away he was still "I'll win my freedom and come for you." He's always been a thick headed idiot only focused on himself. Spartacus and everyone else around him have always just gothim I line. Not that Naevia has gone totally mad she's just encouraging Crixus' stupid rage at the same time Spartacus is walking a complicated moral line. It all makes good sense to me. And gently caress Naevia. I defended her right up until now. I was even trying to forgive her for killing the blacksmith. But when I thought she had killed Gannicus it was all over. Also the sheer terror I had when I thought Gannicus was dead shocked me. I thought for sure I was prepared for everyone to die on this show. But now I'm not so sure. I was kind of shocked Saxa ended up on the good guy side. HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Agron is increasingly turning into a whiny bitch, I hope that slide doesn't continue but we'll see.
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DarkCrawler posted:Also, for anyone who doesn't know, the reason why Caesar doesn't like Cilicians. If the Caesar actor is good, this would be a boss as hell plot for a 'Gods of the Arena' type throwback.
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STAC Goat posted:This season sort of feels like the main guys regressing back to their previous natures now that the immediate alleges of the war are gone. Spartacus wrestles with the right and wrong of it all, Crixus reverts to an angry rear end in a top hat, Gannicus is weary of all the pointless pain this war brings, and Agron's just insecure and pissy. All the characters have been pretty consistent throughout the series. Crixus was always a self-centered classist rear end in a top hat. It's just that thanks to Naevia, he's changed the classes from sworn Battiatus bros vs. people without the mark to all slaves vs. Romans. He always used to treat recruits such as Ashur like less valuable than piss and poo poo, and now he treats Romans the same. In contrast, Spartacus has always been more about valuing individuals and ethics rather than any established order of things. He has always been plotting and scheming to get the better of people in his way while trying not to become everything his wife would've hated. Aggron has always been loyal and overprotective of people he cares about. First his brother, and now Nassir. He even followed Spartacus around like a shadow in this part episode. I think his experience with Romans killing his brother has made him even more distrustful of anyone messing with people he cares about. Someone else posted an awesome character summary of Gannicus earlier in this thread which really nailed his character being a self-loathing one ever since the beginning. Only Naevia kind of changed, but she didn't really have much of a character in season 1 anyway. Fortunately I expect she'll die soon anyway. Jupiter's COCK, I really hope she dies soon.
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To be fair, Spartacus' decision to let the Romans live is a horribly stupid strategic decision. Either kill them totally or expel them after the city is seized. It was a pointless expenditure of supplies and Crixus was totally in the right to balk at such stupidity.
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YouTuber posted:To be fair, Spartacus' decision to let the Romans live is a horribly stupid strategic decision. Either kill them totally or expel them after the city is seized. It was a pointless expenditure of supplies and Crixus was totally in the right to balk at such stupidity. The correct action would be to ransom them off in exchange for money and food.
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Well, since Tiberius and everyone else is pretty much banished to the follower's camp following decimation, I kind of expect him to plot against/possibly kill Kore to get back at his father. Man, a lot of these scenes were hard to watch but I did like the decimation/slaughter cutting back and forth. Tiberius' friend could've subbed for a Walking Dead zombie if his skin was a little more green too. Saxa I think falls under Spartacus because of Gannicus though, not that she really cares too much whether they live or die. I don't think Gannicus has much care for the Romans who were held in the city but I can see why he'd be pissed for everyone slaughtering them because a) orders from Spartacus and b) because Attius was a friend of his so he doesn't really give a poo poo about 'the Romans are all evil' line too much. Caesar is great though, I love how they played around with his good with crowds to sort of set up a split in the rebel groups. edit: I am guessing (even though my history about this period is kinda lovely) that maybe Spartacus wants to team up with Heracleo to peace out on Sinuesse en Valle and take to pirateering for a while before landing away far from Rome to live out the rest of their lives? At this point I think he has to kind of see that trying to fight Rome might not work out. Sober fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Feb 24, 2013 |
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Feb 24, 2013 07:11
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well historically the Pirates do what they do best...
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Zzulu posted:I did find it a bit strange how shaken Caesar was with the woman he mercy killed but then instigating a city wide Roman-Purge and indirectly causing the deaths of almost all remaining romans there He seems like an ends justifies the means kind of guy. Also he might view quick deaths as better than the torture/rape that woman endured.
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D-d-drat that was a bit gorier that I would have liked. I don't mind ridiculous kills in the arena, but that blonde Roman was bordering on Saw levels. Great episode though.
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rapeface posted:D-d-drat that was a bit gorier that I would have liked. I don't mind ridiculous kills in the arena, but that blonde Roman was bordering on Saw levels. Great episode though. which blonde roman, trying to think what caesar did that was so bad. he mercy killed a woman.
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I would assume he's talking about the abuse she had taken at the hands of the soldiers before Caeser. That was really disturbing. But then again the poster is named "rapeface" so that doesn't sound like something at all that would upset him so I don't know.
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ahhh yeah flaxen haired sister... yeah. Rapeface might be ironical.
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Yeah I said before during last season, this show has some ridiculous bloodletting that you can't help but laugh when someone spills a gallon of blood after getting punched. The scene where the Romans torture the captured gladiator (and Lucretia spares Crixus) was genuinely horrifying, and so was the bloodied Roman lady getting fingered by Robert Redford. I have to commend the show for not constantly sugarcoating the rebellion though which is more of a perk for premium cable than titties really. Also looking forward to a Caesar show too. I imagine Vercingetorix would be more the underdog but they already made a Verceingetorix movie http://www.somethingawful.com/d/movie-reviews/druids.php I want them to make it just so we can watch Crassus get molten gold poured down his throat  Can you think of a scene that's more historically accurate AND appropriate for the show? Hopefully done while Parthian girls dance around stripper poles Alan Smithee fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Feb 24, 2013 |
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