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Armanky
Feb 15, 2013

"Kissing is sex."
-George Costanza

WarpedLichen posted:

I would say that if they do have a 2 murderer deal going, it would be awesome if the game deals with the fallout in a better way than it did with Syo in the first game. I demand free time events with the traitor.

I agree, if somebody is proven to have attempted murder and failed, it's something they'll have to deal with for the rest of the game. If this turns out to be the case with Nagito, it'll make his arc considerably more interesting, since up to this point he's just been the really friendly and sociable and ambiguously related to Naegi in some way.

Syo was fun in her own way though. I like how after a while it just didn't really bother anybody that she had proudly murdered dozens of innocent men in cold blood. :psyduck:

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Vyxzuw
Oct 16, 2012

Please stop shitposting in the Let's Play Dangan Ronpa thread!

Armanky posted:

I agree, if somebody is proven to have attempted murder and failed, it's something they'll have to deal with for the rest of the game. If this turns out to be the case with Nagito, it'll make his arc considerably more interesting, since up to this point he's just been the really friendly and sociable and ambiguously related to Naegi in some way.

Syo was fun in her own way though. I like how after a while it just didn't really bother anybody that she had proudly murdered dozens of innocent men in cold blood. :psyduck:

Well, we don't know if they were innocent or not. She only killed people she was attracted to. And she was only attracted to people who abused her.

Plus, Syo was crazy. Possibly from being abused that drove her to becoming the killer she was.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Armanky posted:

Syo was fun in her own way though. I like how after a while it just didn't really bother anybody that she had proudly murdered dozens of innocent men in cold blood. :psyduck:

This always was a weird thing about DR1, but I wouldn't say it didn't bother anybody, exactly. What could they really do about her? They're trapped together and watching out for potential attacks from anyone, so what's one more person to suspect? Why call her out and risk getting some special attention from her when you could just try and discreetly avoid her, and why try to target her to kill when she's got way more experience than you?

I'm still hoping DR0 will shed some light on how much Hope's Peak knew about Syo, though.

Sporkaganza
Feb 19, 2013

I'm bakayuya tomgami

Armanky posted:

Syo was fun in her own way though. I like how after a while it just didn't really bother anybody that she had proudly murdered dozens of innocent men in cold blood. :psyduck:

Well, from a meta standpoint, it's just hard to be bothered by that when she's so drat likable. Over-the-top characters like that are always just so much fun. Actually, it's sort of that way in-universe kinda? I mean, it's not something that would ever make sense in the real world, but in terms of the surreal internal logic of Dangan Ronpa it makes total sense. Syo was in her own weird way extremely personable. In fact, she was kind of a little bit easier to get on with than Fukawa. Fukawa was always quick to judge other people shallowly and harshly and kind of distanced herself from other people and was always in a bad mood. Meanwhile, Syo is clearly having the time of her life no matter what's going on. And I don't think Syo cared much about anyone who wasn't Togami either, but she never pushed anyone away immediately like Fukawa did.

In conclusion, Genocider Syo is a genocider bro.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Armanky posted:

I agree, if somebody is proven to have attempted murder and failed, it's something they'll have to deal with for the rest of the game. If this turns out to be the case with Nagito, it'll make his arc considerably more interesting, since up to this point he's just been the really friendly and sociable and ambiguously related to Naegi in some way.

Syo was fun in her own way though. I like how after a while it just didn't really bother anybody that she had proudly murdered dozens of innocent men in cold blood. :psyduck:

Not to get too armchair-psychoanalyst, but this also applies to the writers and the audience. I think someone explained it best back when Hanamura was introduced: the reason people immediately loathed him was because most probably actually knew people in real life who where huge creeps or maybe were even subjected to sexual harassment by said huge creeps. Others, like me, just found him cartoonishly goofy, probably because they didn't have the same frame of reference.

Now apply this to Syo: exactly how many people would be offended by the presence of a cartoonishly over-the-top serial killer? Serial killers are just way beyond most people's everyday experience: they rarely have family, loved ones or acquaintances who were murdered in a horribly brutal manner, and even when they have, it probably wasn't by a serial killer. It's kind of incomprehensible for most people, including the writers of Dangan Ronpa, and I think this greatly influenced the writing of the game: Syo is only threatening for about a minute before she becomes a comic relief character, and the fact that she has brutally murdered people does not apply because neither other characters in DR nor the audience even get to know his victims.

I think if her background and her victims were elaborated upon, she would actually come off as despicably monstrous instead of wacky.

TL;DR: The monkeysphere.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Feb 23, 2013

Jeek
Feb 15, 2012

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

TL;DR: The monkeysphere.

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Let's Play! > A lesson on human nature with Super Dangan Ronpa 2 :eng101:

The Cracked article on that is really depressing though. :smith:

SingerOfW
Feb 28, 2012

I shall admit my wickedness.
All the death flags raised by Togami totally flew over my head, since I had a really bad case of tunnel vision: that awkward silence scene made me expect Nidai or Hanamura to be the first victim, with Sonia closely involved in the whole mess. Oh well, it might as well happen next chapter.

That said, I do believe that Hanamura is the culprit this time. He had more than enough screen time already, not to mention having more opportunities to put his plan into motion, like access to food, cutlery and any other ingredients in the kitchen. That's more speculation than making a theory on hard evidence, though: the case seems a bit too complicated for anything like that at this point of time.

Armanky posted:

...He was just lucky that Togami shoved him out of the way right before the culprit attacked. :aaa:
It might not be the case this time, but it would be totally awesome for Nagito's SHSL Luck to be decisive evidence in a case. "This could only have happened by accident... So only Nagito could integrate it into his murder plan!".

And for anyone who cares, yesterday was Nidai's birthday. Fun fact: "Ni" means "Two" in Japanese, so him being born on 22.2 is to be expected.

Nefarious Asparagus
Aug 7, 2009

Indubitably, old bean.

SingerOfW posted:

And for anyone who cares, yesterday was Nidai's birthday. Fun fact: "Ni" means "Two" in Japanese, so him being born on 22.2 is to be expected.

It was also Cat Day. (I don't remember if this has been mentioned before, but for clarification the "neko" in Nekomaru Nidai's name means "cat". This game is trying to rival Ace Attorney with the punny names, it seems.)

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?

Bifauxnen posted:

I'm still hoping DR0 will shed some light on how much Hope's Peak knew about Syo, though.

Knowing how crazy this series is, it'll turn out she was their trump card in case Despair got into the group we aw in th first game. in order to kill them.

Tombolo
Oct 13, 2012
So uh, I don't know if anybody ever goes to danbooru, and I will probably regret admitting I do, but if you do, it's worth noting that their front page currently takes you directly to a bunch of thumbnails, I guess. That's primarily noteworthy because apparently there's a lot of Dangan Ronpa 2 up there right now! Needless to say there's much less I can discuss about this game now, but I figured I might pass that along before somebody else runs into the same thing.

Falls Down Stairs
Nov 2, 2008

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

Tombolo posted:

So uh, I don't know if anybody ever goes to danbooru, and I will probably regret admitting I do, but if you do, it's worth noting that their front page currently takes you directly to a bunch of thumbnails, I guess. That's primarily noteworthy because apparently there's a lot of Dangan Ronpa 2 up there right now! Needless to say there's much less I can discuss about this game now, but I figured I might pass that along before somebody else runs into the same thing.

That site is often the only source for Japanese (and Finnish for some reason) fancomic/webcomic translations, so it does get linked on ADTRW semi-often. So I do kinda feel like you just warned me about a landmine. :ohdear:

VoidBurger
Jul 18, 2008

A leap into the void.
The burger in space.
I dunno if anyone is a moron like me who loves Fandom!Secrets, but I figured I'd warn any peeps who are that there's a BIG rear end SPOILER in the latest batch. I thought it was a spoiler for something we in the thread already knew, but I was wrong. :( I wasn't even looking for DR2 stuff and I was spoiled, this is ridiculous!

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
^ Jesus, really? Did they post it under Spoiler Secrets?

Dang, it's a good thing I haven't been checking there as often as I used to. Thanks for the heads up!

Armanky
Feb 15, 2013

"Kissing is sex."
-George Costanza
Ah, the classic internet mentality of "If I've seen it, everybody has seen it." That sucks, guys, I'm sorry that people are such loving assholes with no loving discretion. Hopefully they come up in the game sooner rather than later, unless it's a "Hanamura was controlling Monomi ALL ALONG!" kind of spoiler.

orenronen
Nov 7, 2008

VoidBurger posted:

I dunno if anyone is a moron like me who loves Fandom!Secrets, but I figured I'd warn any peeps who are that there's a BIG rear end SPOILER in the latest batch. I thought it was a spoiler for something we in the thread already knew, but I was wrong. :( I wasn't even looking for DR2 stuff and I was spoiled, this is ridiculous!

I looked, and yeah - that's a particularly sucky one.

But still, I can tell you it's not that important in the grand scheme of things, and that it has nothing to do with the murder mystery aspect of the story, so you're spoiler-free there.

zetsubous
Feb 19, 2013

Happy Landfill posted:

^ Jesus, really? Did they post it under Spoiler Secrets?

Dang, it's a good thing I haven't been checking there as often as I used to. Thanks for the heads up!

Yeah, to be fair to the OP it is posted under Spoiler Secrets... it's just that I think most of us saw that but assumed it would be spoilers for the LP. I scrolled down thinking, "Oh, cool, more DR2 discussion!" and bam. :doh:

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

To avoid DR2 spoilers, just don't go anywhere else except this thread. And don't go outside, either. There are people out there who might know who the mastermind is. Just keep yourself locked in your room, subsisting on a diet of delivery pizza. Except you always request a delivery guy who doesn't play video games and have all transactions take place through your mail slot.

Spoiler-free, forever.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


I have only read this thread, the previous thread, and the wikipedia page if I forget the difference between several Japanese names, and somehow I know a spoiler. Not plot, not anything that matters, just what one of the ????'ed out main menu thing is going to be.

I am slowly driving myself crazy trying to figure out where I heard it from. I have read the OPs about a dozen times each trying to find it. Best guess, I think maybe it was a line in Wikipedia one day but edited out the next.

e: Oh thank christ! Mystery solved.

Krinkle fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Feb 24, 2013

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Krinkle posted:

I have only read this thread, the previous thread, and the wikipedia page if I forget the difference between several Japanese names, and somehow I know a spoiler. Not plot, not anything that matters, just what one of the ????'ed out main menu thing is going to be.

I am slowly driving myself crazy trying to figure out where I heard it from. I have read the OPs about a dozen times each trying to find it. Best guess, I think maybe it was a line in Wikipedia one day but edited out the next.

Someone mentioned it earlier in the thread, but it got pulled out for obvious reasons. I swear it wasn't me.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Krinkle posted:

I have only read this thread, the previous thread, and the wikipedia page if I forget the difference between several Japanese names, and somehow I know a spoiler. Not plot, not anything that matters, just what one of the ????'ed out main menu thing is going to be.

I am slowly driving myself crazy trying to figure out where I heard it from. I have read the OPs about a dozen times each trying to find it. Best guess, I think maybe it was a line in Wikipedia one day but edited out the next.

It was indeed from this thread, but I won't say any more.

Falls Down Stairs
Nov 2, 2008

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

Krinkle posted:

I have only read this thread, the previous thread, and the wikipedia page if I forget the difference between several Japanese names, and somehow I know a spoiler. Not plot, not anything that matters, just what one of the ????'ed out main menu thing is going to be.

I am slowly driving myself crazy trying to figure out where I heard it from. I have read the OPs about a dozen times each trying to find it. Best guess, I think maybe it was a line in Wikipedia one day but edited out the next.

There was some discussion about that at some point in this thread by people wondering if it would be covered in the LP, but orenronen mentioned that he'd rather it not be discussed until it's actually unlocked. Since then slowbeef has been tossing every mention of it by name down the memory hole.

Edit: Whoa, a triple e:f,b

Falls Down Stairs fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Feb 24, 2013

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Waffleman_ posted:

To avoid DR2 spoilers, just don't go anywhere else except this thread. And don't go outside, either. There are people out there who might know who the mastermind is. Just keep yourself locked in your room, subsisting on a diet of delivery pizza. Except you always request a delivery guy who doesn't play video games and have all transactions take place through your mail slot.

Spoiler-free, forever.

But what if your odd requests make them catch on? And some spiteful worker in the kitchen thinks "haha, I'll show Mister Picky-About-His-Delivery-Drivers!" and scribbles "NAGITO IS JUNKO" on the inside of the pizza lid?!

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


I'd just like to say that this lp and thread has some of the most skirting the spoilers lines I have ever seen for any lp. It must be a big pain for the lpers and the mods.

And tumblr and the like don't help either. I'm glad I don't use them and I appreciate my luck in staying so spoiler free and hopefully spoiler free to the end.

Saeku
Sep 22, 2010
In a fit of stupidity, I GIS'ed Nagito early on so I could get a better look at his outfit. Luckily, I didn't see any spoilers. Unluckily, the reason I didn't see any spoilers was that "Nagito" is apparently the name of a Japanese gay porn star, so my screen was covered with gay porn.

Don't google.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

RefinedUndefined
Jan 1, 2013

Just burn everything, that'll solve your problems.

Saeku posted:

In a fit of stupidity, I GIS'ed Nagito early on so I could get a better look at his outfit. Luckily, I didn't see any spoilers. Unluckily, the reason I didn't see any spoilers was that "Nagito" is apparently the name of a Japanese gay porn star, so my screen was covered with gay porn.

Don't google.

Or at the very least, keep SafeSearch on to avoid poo poo like this happening to you. You probably would have been better off some the spoilers if you ask me, at least in this case.

Edit: Look, think of it from this perspective, what would you rather have people see if they walk in on you while you're searching the internet, spoilers for a game they've probably never heard of, or gay porn. On one hand, both you and them get spoiled, although they probably wouldn't care, on the other hand, it would just be incredibly awkward.

RefinedUndefined fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Feb 24, 2013

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Bifauxnen posted:

But what if your odd requests make them catch on? And some spiteful worker in the kitchen thinks "haha, I'll show Mister Picky-About-His-Delivery-Drivers!" and scribbles "NAGITO IS JUNKO" on the inside of the pizza lid?!

But that's okay, because you've already made yourself partially illiterate, unable to read anything unless it's in the Dangan Ronpa 2 thread.

VoidBurger
Jul 18, 2008

A leap into the void.
The burger in space.

zetsubous posted:

Yeah, to be fair to the OP it is posted under Spoiler Secrets... it's just that I think most of us saw that but assumed it would be spoilers for the LP. I scrolled down thinking, "Oh, cool, more DR2 discussion!" and bam. :doh:
Yeahhh to be fair, it was listed as a spoiler secret BUUUT... I did the exact same thing you did. Thought it was something we already knew from the LP. Moment of dopeyness.

orenronen posted:

I looked, and yeah - that's a particularly sucky one.

But still, I can tell you it's not that important in the grand scheme of things, and that it has nothing to do with the murder mystery aspect of the story, so you're spoiler-free there.
I only read the first chunk of the first sentence, but it was sort of a doozy! It's good to heard that it kinda doesn't matter though.

Saeku posted:

In a fit of stupidity, I GIS'ed Nagito early on so I could get a better look at his outfit. Luckily, I didn't see any spoilers. Unluckily, the reason I didn't see any spoilers was that "Nagito" is apparently the name of a Japanese gay porn star, so my screen was covered with gay porn.

Don't google.
That'll teach you!!

Gensuki
Sep 2, 2011

RefinedUndefined posted:

Or at the very least, keep SafeSearch on to avoid poo poo like this happening to you. You probably would have been better off some the spoilers if you ask me, at least in this case.

But... but then you're more likely to get spoiled!

Would you rather get spoiled, or see gay porn?

...who am I kidding, you'll probably get both either way...

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010
Orenonen, by the way, have you decided how many updates you expect to split the rest of this chapter into? About 4-5 was what I was assuming, but if you're going for every detail I'd have no idea how long that'd take.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

RefinedUndefined posted:

Or at the very least, keep SafeSearch on to avoid poo poo like this happening to you. You probably would have been better off some the spoilers if you ask me, at least in this case.

How horrifying, naked men? Dear me. You should have spoiled yourself instead. What a terrible thing to have happen to you.

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN
Shockingly some people dont like pornography at all or perhaps he couldve been searching where someone else couldve seen his screen. But good job telling him off with your posting anyway thatll certainly teach him to not to want to see naked men

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.
Hold the loving phone. You can find gay porn with GIS?

This changes everything.

zetsubous
Feb 19, 2013

Saeku posted:

In a fit of stupidity, I GIS'ed Nagito early on so I could get a better look at his outfit. Luckily, I didn't see any spoilers. Unluckily, the reason I didn't see any spoilers was that "Nagito" is apparently the name of a Japanese gay porn star, so my screen was covered with gay porn.

Don't google.

BRB, googling immediately.

This is actually the third or so major thing I've been spoiled on, and it's making me tempted to just go ahead and read every spoiler available, but it feels like it would be a waste now that I finally have an account and am posting to the thread and everything. Besides, I'd wind up making all my friends read them all, too.

CHiRAL
Mar 29, 2010

Anus.

Waffleman_ posted:

To avoid DR2 spoilers, just don't go anywhere else except this thread. And don't go outside, either. There are people out there who might know who the mastermind is. Just keep yourself locked in your room, subsisting on a diet of delivery pizza. Except you always request a delivery guy who doesn't play video games and have all transactions take place through your mail slot.

Spoiler-free, forever.

I tried that!
Then as I was looking through Pixiv at fanart from a completely unrelated fandom that you would never even think has any connection to DR2 I stumbled on a thumbnail in the artist's gallery titled "the mastermind" and now I know who it is even though I don't know anything else about this game :qq:
Seriously just get off the internet and go read a book that was written before this game was made to pass the time between updates. You should skip every other word, just in case.

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
Super Dangan Ronpa 2 Discussion - My Screen Was Covered With Gay Porn

Anyhow, personally I haven't bumped into any spoilers at all, it's ultimately a matter of which websites you frequent. Unless you just get really unlucky it's still very much avoidable for the most part, fortunately.

orenronen
Nov 7, 2008

Kanfy posted:

Super Dangan Ronpa 2 Discussion - My Screen Was Covered With Gay Porn

This applies even if you're looking at the actual Dangan Ronpa 2 tag on tumblr.

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?
Nothing has been spoiled for me on tumblr and I am so glad. There are people who do actually tag their spoilers.

GimmickMan
Dec 27, 2011

I clicked the youtube link reveal of Togami's corpse (polsy doesn't look good in my smallish monitor) and I think the related videos spoiled me. Just so you know.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

TK-31 posted:

I clicked the youtube link reveal of Togami's corpse (polsy doesn't look good in my smallish monitor) and I think the related videos spoiled me. Just so you know.

That's exactly why he uses Polsy, though. Specifically to prevent related videos from spoiling people.

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

orenronen posted:

This applies even if you're looking at the actual Dangan Ronpa 2 tag on tumblr.

You learned that the hard way didn't you oren :shobon:

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