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ElBrak posted:If you do a little googling you can find that they made a nuke small enough to fire from a standard 155mm artillery piece. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W48 Makes for a nice boom (there's a bunch of extra junk spliced into this video but it still shows the actual firing at the start). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8IvER-GGEY
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Weren't the Crockets modified W48s? Also, just look at how happy that dude on the right is with his new atomic artillery shell! 
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Weren't the Crockets modified W48s? No, Crockets used the W54, which had a completely different physics package from the W48...W54 was a conventional implosion type while the W48 was a linear implosion type because it needed to have a smaller diameter to fit in the artillery shell. Using linear implosion made it able to fit but also meant it was much less efficient, requiring a much larger amount of plutonium (and thereby making them quite a bit more expensive than a conventional implosion type weapon of roughly comparable size and yield).
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Madurai posted:The Phantom was a half-generation ahead of everything else in the world at the time. In 1958, two missiles seemed like more than enough air-to-air warload. The F-4 carried eight*, which is still competitive today. "Tough and reliable" were not adjectives anyone would have applied at the time--it was too busy being looked at as the sci-fi superfighter. Ahh, yes, the Ace Combat loadout.
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Mr. Despair posted:Makes for a nice boom (there's a bunch of extra junk spliced into this video but it still shows the actual firing at the start). Nah that isn't a 155mm gun firing an atomic shell, thats a 280mm gun firing one.
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iyaayas01 posted:No, Crockets used the W54, which had a completely different physics package from the W48...W54 was a conventional implosion type while the W48 was a linear implosion type because it needed to have a smaller diameter to fit in the artillery shell. Using linear implosion made it able to fit but also meant it was much less efficient, requiring a much larger amount of plutonium (and thereby making them quite a bit more expensive than a conventional implosion type weapon of roughly comparable size and yield). grover fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Feb 25, 2013 |
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PainterofCrap posted:Wing box jig? correct!
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grover posted:W48, W74, W79 & W82 were US's only linear implosion warheads. W79 was 8", the rest were 155mm. Everything besides nuclear artillery used more conventional spherical implosion designs; the linear implosion designed used something like 2-3x more plutonium and had a smaller yield. Still, seems crazy to even consider nuclear artillery. Before the advent of reliable precision-guided weapons, it seems crazy to consider anything else besides nuclear artillery.
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Madurai posted:Before the advent of reliable precision-guided weapons, it seems crazy to consider anything else besides nuclear artillery.
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Koesj posted:Could you transplant mission hardware to new airframes up to some degree? That's exactly what Japan did with the E-767. The US uses 707s, so there aren't any new ones available (Boeing allegedly offered back around '91, but the AF said no and the 707 line shut down after the Navy E-6B). StandardVC10 posted:For the AWACS thing, how much room do you need? Maybe you could have a setup where you have a P-8/737NG airframe, but just beaming down all of the data rather than having AWACS-specific crew on board? There are pictures of the interior layout all over the internet. But it's crowded with the current E-3B/C standard (the only difference is one extra cabinet that handles an additional radar mode for the C model). This equipment wouldn't fit in a smaller airframe. Basically the E-3 is two decks. The main deck is where the people, computer, and some of the radar equipment is, while the lower deck is all radios and the bulk of the radar hardware that's not in the dome. Downstairs is PACKED. Fat guys can't move around down there. Skinny guys run into problems (and sharp edges). Even with the new computer which will save a loving ton of room on the main deck, there are still a couple dozen radios and all the radar hardware. I'm not sure how much power a 737 generates either...I don't know if it can even run all this stuff. holocaust bloopers posted:No upgrade for the flight deck is ever happening. There is no talk about it now outside of whatever meager poo poo the AF has to do to keep the jet compliant in flying transoceanic or whatever FAA stipulates. All the money is being spent in the back. Roughly a year ago we were told that Dragon and 40/45 upgrades were going to be significantly overlapping. There was even a chart and everything. I was just as skeptical as you, until I realized something. With two near-simultaneous but uncoordinated upgrade efforts spanning several years, there will be six models of the E-3 on the ramp: E-3B, E-3B/Dragon, E-3C, E-3C/Dragon, E-3G, and E-3G/Dragon. The administrative and training clusterfuck this would create convinces me far more than the word of the OG/CC that it's gonna happen. movax posted:Ahh, yes, the Ace Combat loadout. 
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Godholio posted:That's exactly what Japan did with the E-767. Did it work though? Considering it was an exclusively Japanese project it probably came in four times over budget and all that.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/197m43/we_are_copenhagen_suborbitals_guys_cameron_smith/ The copenhagen suborbitals people are doing an AMA again.
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Hrm. I must have missed this, the USAF thinks it figured out why all those F-22 pilots were going hypoxic: http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/07/31/pressure_vests_were_choking_f_22_pilots quote:The heart of the problem is an oxygen valve on the early 1990s-vintage pressure vest worn by Raptor pilots. This valve was inflating the vest from the moment the pilots took off, making it hard for them to breathe and leading F-22 pilots to report hypoxia-like symptoms, according to Maj. Gen. Charles Lyon, head of operations for the Air Force's Air Combat Command. They basically said the reports of ground crew getting woozy were unrelated: dehydration, hangovers, that sort of thing. But this report's from back in June of last year. Like I said, I must have missed it; was this the final word or was there another more elusive problem?
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Nothing has been finalized. There was also a weird scenario where they may have been getting too much oxygen...the whole thing is hosed up and I don't even know what the last report was.Koesj posted:Did it work though? Considering it was an exclusively Japanese project it probably came in four times over budget and all that. It works fine. As long as you have the room and the electrical capacity to power everything, you could technically put this stuff in any aircraft. And the 767 has much more room and probably quite a bit more electrical generation. Japan's been flying them operationally for several years now. My big question on that program is actually where they got the radars. It seems strange (to me) that Northrop Grumman would've kept the tooling this long; as far as I know the last foreign E-3 orders were still 20 years ago. Godholio fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Feb 25, 2013 |
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PainterofCrap posted:I like to imagine a Phantom loaded with ALL of this, simultaneously. Welcome to Ace Combat. Edit: Dammit, beaten. Sounds like quite a few of you have played at least one of them.
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rcman50166 posted:Welcome to Ace Combat. Well who doesn't want to bomb around in the coolest fighter jets while not having the skills to take the DCS sims seriously? 420 A-10 Air-to-Air everyday.
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Godholio posted:My big question on that program is actually where they got the radars. It seems strange (to me) that Northrop Grumman would've kept the tooling this long; as far as I know the last foreign E-3 orders were still 20 years ago. Could tooling retention for the operational lifetime of the aircraft be a contract requirement?
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ctishman posted:Could tooling retention for the operational lifetime of the aircraft be a contract requirement? Possible. Another option is USG provided the TDP to Japan and they had to rejigger it all. I'm not familiar enough to speak with any authority. FMS is, uh, interesting.
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ctishman posted:Could tooling retention for the operational lifetime of the aircraft be a contract requirement? I doubt that they kept it around. Although the tooling would probably be much more compact for just the radar than for a whole plane.
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With 20-40 years of technical advancements, wouldn't it be worth it to design a new radar for the next generation?
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NightGyr posted:With 20-40 years of technical advancements, wouldn't it be worth it to design a new radar for the next generation? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_AEW%26C Yes basically.
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Plinkey posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_AEW%26C There are limitations to these designs. It's not really a replacement so much as a complimentary system. Edit: This is influenced by doctrine as well. The US would need a ton of Wedgetails to replace the 30-ish E-3s we have because of how we use them. Godholio fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Feb 26, 2013 |
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Tremblay posted:FMS is, uh, interesting. There's the understatement of the year.
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NightGyr posted:With 20-40 years of technical advancements, wouldn't it be worth it to design a new radar for the next generation? When you see the pricetag on designing whole new systems, datalinks etc, then getting every little piece flight certified, then certified for actual battlefield use around the globe, then fixing the millions of issues that pop up, then retraining all the flight and ground crews... yeah, maybe not. It's the same reason 737 and A320 variants are going to be in production for all of our lifetimes, as well as the B-52 still flying. People see what's happened to the F-22/F35/Eurofighter/A380/787/A400M/ARJ-21 and wisely stick with what works.
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Cygni posted:When you see the pricetag on designing whole new systems, datalinks etc, then getting every little piece flight certified, then certified for actual battlefield use around the globe, then fixing the millions of issues that pop up, then retraining all the flight and ground crews... yeah, maybe not. The biggest reason why we will keep seeing 737 variants is because they have all kinds of things in the airplane grandfathered in with their nearly 50-year old type certificate. If Boeing went and made a clean-sheet replacement for the 737 right now, its performance and operating cost would at best be on par with a modernised 737 variant (with a much higher unit cost) or it could very well be worse than an updated 737 variant. Also, I forgot just how much of a clusterfuck the ARJ-21 was/is. Thanks for the laugh. 
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MrChips posted:Also, I forgot just how much of a clusterfuck the ARJ-21 was/is. Thanks for the laugh. It's fun to point out the ARJ-21 to people terrified of China's military might. They can't copy a 45 year old plane correctly 
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So despite thinking the Harlem Shake thing is loving retarded, I can't help but post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgKFJk8Twik I know there's at least one AI (AF) goon who should be familiar with the facility this was filmed in. e: I know it's been posted before, but here's a pretty sweet video that isn't a meme, and is actually tangentially related to the Harlem Shake one (besides both featuring Eagles): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NdAPP3Ac7Y iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Feb 27, 2013 |
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iyaayas01 posted:So despite thinking the Harlem Shake thing is loving retarded, I can't help but post this: That's pretty good at showing the scale of the f15's and why the Iranian 313 thingy is so stupid (ie way too small to be able to fly).
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Wibbleman posted:That's pretty good at showing the scale of the f15's and why the Iranian 313 thingy is so stupid (ie way too small to be able to fly). Granted, the F-15 is big for a fighter (look at pictures of one next to an F-16 or F-5 or something) but yeah, that's a good point. Actually, just because...  (click through for big)
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Good thing Airman Horsemask had his reflective belt on, wouldn't want to get into trouble. Also, I love the dude dressed like DJ Lance from Yo Gabba Gabba.
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Because? I don't know, but I have the aeronerd bug and I've successfully passed it on to my daughter. Nothing cheers your heart quite like a petite, blonde three year old responding "AIRPLANES, DADDY!" to the question, "What do you want to do today?"
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Polymerized Cum posted:It's fun to point out the ARJ-21 to people terrified of China's military might. They can't copy a 45 year old plane correctly What's really awesome is their website for the C919. Some choice quotes: COMAC posted:"C919"is the short form of trunk liner code for "COMAC919". COMAC is the acronym of the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, Ltd. The letter "C" is the first letter of both "COMAC" and "China". It indicates that this trunk liner program is the will of China and her people." Their whole site is a clusterfuck.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Because? I don't know, but I have the aeronerd bug and I've successfully passed it on to my daughter. Nothing cheers your heart quite like a petite, blonde three year old responding "AIRPLANES, DADDY!" to the question, "What do you want to do today?" Want to meet that kid.  
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StandardVC10 posted:Want to meet that kid. Here she is at the controls of an F86D  And here she is doing her pre-flight in a KC-135  (These pictures are about a year old, she's much bigger and more stoked about airplanes now that she's all of three years old)
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Sounds like she got into planes about the same time I did. She rules btw
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So I guess Boeing is trying to create a real world Ace Combat loadout, because that is my only explanation for this: (click for big) That's a model they were displaying at the AFA's Air Warfare Symposium last week, article is here. Apparently the outer stations (1 and 9) are being activated on the Saudi SA variant, and according to a Boeing rep (so take that with a grain of salt) they're eventually going to be activated on the USAF's fleet as well. Those stations are stressed for 1,000 lbs, so that loadout as depicted is realistic from that perspective since AGM-88s weigh around 800 lbs and the AIM-9X/AIM-120 combo on the other station would be a little over 500 lbs, so factor in launchers/pylons and you'd be under 1,000 on both. Anyway, 2xAIM-9X, 4xAIM-120, 1xAGM-84, 1xAGM-88, 2xGBU-31(V)1/B, 6xGBU-54, 3xLJDAM-ER, and 8xGBU-39s, plus targeting pods. Yup, I think that'd get the job done.
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Very Ace Combat. I know why Boeing is doing that but without unlimited funds that's never getting flight/release tested. It's just...insane. It's like that Buff photo with all the ordnance laid out in front, except on the airplane.
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