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Dorroile posted:Those are some pretty great voices! It definitely made me realize that what works in a comic format doesn't necessarily work in animation, though. The pacing just ends up feeling weird. This is true to an extent but I think the kind of animation plays a huge factor. There's no smearing in the animations, where something gets distorted or suddenly exists in multiples, to emphasize action. It helps with the fluidity and flow of the animation. Like this:  Which is why I like Shmorky's animation, from earlier in the thread. He rules at that.
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The fact that the toilet party is up for animating gives me great joy, 'cause it's one of my favorite arcs. I'd love to see it expanded so we can see animated Ray get sort of stoned!
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Feb 28, 2013 23:13
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Dominion posted:You can hear someone in the party scene talking about fancy foodie poo poo like Osso Buco, I assumed that was Teodor and you just can't see his mouth move because, well, because Teodor's mouth is sort of weird. I think that was Pat. It looked like the voice was synced to his lips.
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Feb 28, 2013 23:34
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I also like how Pat is standing in the shower for no reason.
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Feb 28, 2013 23:37
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The voices are all off for me, but the humor remains intact and that's the important thing (and I'll get used to the voices).
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Feb 28, 2013 23:45
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The only thing I don't like about the voices is that my cat is also named Ray Smuckles and now I'm going to associate Toby Huss with the non-Achewood Ray.
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Feb 28, 2013 23:54
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It's probably racist, but I imagined Ray to be blacker and less Texan, which is all I hear.
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Feb 28, 2013 23:56
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There is something about Ray's cadence that just makes him sound like he is not talking to another person. He sounds like he is talking to his dog.
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Feb 28, 2013 23:57
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I really, really didn't like that test footage. As a number of people have said, it's utterly stilted - the timing sucks every last bit of comedy out of it, probably because I guess the actors weren't in the same room as each other during the line reading. I've showed it to a few people who know nothing about Achewood, and they hated it. If this is what they're showing to the networks to pick it up then they're in trouble. I don't think this is going to work. Although Onstad as Roast Beef was dead on. Necrothatcher fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Mar 1, 2013 |
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Mar 1, 2013 00:43
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Oh this is never actually going to happen, but its fun to pretend for a bit.
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Mr. Flunchy posted:I really, really didn't like that test footage. As a number of people have said, it's utterly stilted - the timing sucks every last bit of comedy out of it, probably because I guess the actors weren't in the same room as each other during the line reading. I've showed it to a few people who know nothing about Achewood, and they hated it. If this is what they're showing to the networks to pick it up then they're in trouble. I don't think this is going to work. Yeah, the line reading is awful, but it's achewood. I can only hope they get it together if it gets picked up.
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Mar 1, 2013 00:55
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Thanks for uploading to youtube! God drat, I hope this gets picked up.
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Mar 1, 2013 01:09
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Honestly, the big problems I see with the line reading can be summed up by two things: one, the actors probably haven't really settled into their roles yet, and two, it was probably Onstad himself doing the ADR directing, which is something that he's likely never done before. They seem like problems that are fairly exclusive to the test footage. e: Also, Pat's mouth was moving when the talking about squash osso bucco happened, and early on in that arc Pat tried to get people to eat his awful attempts at imitiating decent food, so I'm assuming that's supposed to be him. SALT CURES HAM fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Mar 1, 2013 |
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quote:Scones are like if classical music was a cookie, and the teacher said you had to memorize it, or they would make you smell their gas. I have a good feeling about this.
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I always thought ray would have a black guy voice, his grandfather being an old blues man and all.
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Scones was pretty good. And Onstad ain't doing too bad a job of talking in a small font.
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FirstPersonShitter posted:I always thought ray would have a black guy voice, his grandfather being an old blues man and all. See I never did, since he is from suburbia and played soccer and his mom is like the whitest mom ever. He was also really into skateboarding and BMX bikes. It's a dumb distinction though as they are cats.
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Yeah, it's not a perfectly polished product, but I liked watching that clip. I think the comic pacing was the most off in the bits adapting pre-existing comics but the original material worked really well, the scones bit especially. That one just felt like a perfectly Achewoodian conversation written with a mind to the pacing needs of animation rather than a comic strip.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:See I never did, since he is from suburbia and played soccer and his mom is like the whitest mom ever. He was also really into skateboarding and BMX bikes. It's a dumb distinction though as they are cats. Ray is super white, and Teodor calls him out in one comic about his dialect and deep voice. Also his goatee is so hell of wispy a spider covets, because of his French ancestry. Locus fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Mar 1, 2013 |
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Mar 1, 2013 06:23
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Ray sounds like some honky-tonk blowjob that I could find down at the "Electric Cowboy".
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Mar 1, 2013 07:12
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I think the 'Pentagon' caption underneath the shot of the White House deserves more love.
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I thought the test footage was pretty good. The main problem with the voices is that they sound sort of "'phoned in," which they probably literally were. Ray sounds almost exactly how I imagined - a white guy trying to sound black. Roast Beef is pretty good too. I hope this happens. If not, I hope it at least helps Onstad decide to have optimism.
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Mar 1, 2013 09:35
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Yeah, like most everyone else I thought that Ray's voice was slightly "off", but I'd be more worried if this was, say, a clipshow from a fully-animated season that's in the can, and not a demo reel put together for the purpose of showing off to network execs. If the show does get picked up, I feel pretty confident that they'd be able to do right by the strip. And if worse comes to worse, they could always just do The Todd and Teodor Show instead. 
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Mar 1, 2013 10:43
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Sydney Bottocks posted:And if worse comes to worse, they could always just do The Todd and Teodor Show instead. Todd heard the perfect thing to say. He heard a thing so perfect to him, his life ended. I love this strip so much.
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PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_97q16TFxk I'm glad that's just an animation test because that line-reading is beyond bad.
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Mar 1, 2013 11:20
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Jerusalem posted:Todd heard the perfect thing to say. He heard a thing so perfect to him, his life ended. Yeah, Onstad has this amazing style of writing and humor which always not only cracks me up but leaves me chuckling for ages. Like today, I saw the "Best of Hot Tub Brawls" strip an hour or so ago and I've been cracking up over the alt text ever since. "You can do whatever you want in life" is such a perfect addition to that strip.
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Mar 1, 2013 11:21
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Jerusalem posted:Todd heard the perfect thing to say. He heard a thing so perfect to him, his life ended. You can tell they're THIS CLOSE to cashin' it ALL IN for another RIP on the PIPE, son!
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Yeah, like most everyone else I thought that Ray's voice was slightly "off", but I'd be more worried if this was, say, a clipshow from a fully-animated season that's in the can, and not a demo reel put together for the purpose of showing off to network execs. If the show does get picked up, I feel pretty confident that they'd be able to do right by the strip. Todd's on this thing so often, he should have theme music and bumpers.
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Mar 1, 2013 15:08
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The test footage is rough but still funny enough. If that's what's being used for the pitch and it doesn't get picked up it'll be the networks' fault, not Onstad et al's. My only concern is it looks like Ray's show all the way. Ray is hilarious and everything but Ray Presents The Ray Show Starring Ray As Ray could get tiring fast. An awesome way to do the Great Outdoor Fight episode would be to have Beef and Ray do the Fight while everyone else do the Badass Games as a B-plot and then pile in Cornelius's school bus, pick up Ray and Beef and their Fight allies, and have a huge bacchanal at Kronos Cafe.
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I check a thread at one AM. There is an Achewood animation with a possible series. Is thisvreal? Am I awake? Did... Did I die?
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I'm afraid you did, but you went to a very special hell.
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Loomer posted:I check a thread at one AM. There is an Achewood animation with a possible series. Here's your Subaru Brat
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Mar 1, 2013 16:10
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I really liked the test footage. The only one that really didn't feel right was KISS MY rear end BITCH, I'LL BE AT DUANE'S!
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Mar 1, 2013 16:29
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I don't know about Ray, he's just coming off as some weird foodie in this. I mean who can even care about a dude with strong opions about Toppers. Pictured him more as always trying to play hard and just getting all soft and eccentric and vodka soaked over the years.
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PUKED posted:I don't know about Ray, he's just coming off as some weird foodie in this. I mean who can even care about a dude with strong opions about Toppers. He is kind of a weird foodie, though. (To be fair, everyone in Achewood except maybe Beef is.)
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WickedIcon posted:He is kind of a weird foodie, though. (To be fair, everyone in Achewood except maybe Beef is.) Beef just has a thing about sodium. Oh my god I can't buy a burrito from someone who has done oral on me a zucchini at 2pm like the magazines say ARE YOU DEPRESSED --> YES
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The Time Dissolver posted:My only concern is it looks like Ray's show all the way. Ray is hilarious and everything but Ray Presents The Ray Show Starring Ray As Ray could get tiring fast. No worries, Onstad's already aware of the dangers of this happening.
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PUKED posted:I don't know about Ray, he's just coming off as some weird foodie in this. I mean who can even care about a dude with strong opions about Toppers. Well, Ray does tend to be kind of a weird foodie, though he does seem to really play off Teodor with that.
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ManiacClown posted:My thoughts on Onstad's performance as Roast Beef are that yes, he's got a good tone. However, I've always heard Beef as hesitant to say whatever it is that's coming out of his mouth, as if he's unsure he should speak but is forcing himself to do so. Onstad's Beef just sounds too confident for what the character seems like to me. He doesn't sound like a guy who Has Depression™ because he Comes From Circumstances™. I get what you mean, but I think you might want to listen a little more closely. I found the confidence to be completely phony, in the way most non-actors sound like on TV. I think it actually fits his personally more than the more exaggerated direction they could have gone with it. Onstad has said that he doesn't necessarily want to voice the character himself, and if they do replace him they would need to get someone equally non-descript and underplayed, while at the same time able to put on a confident facade and follow comic timing. That might actually be very hard!
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