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TheUnhorse
Oct 29, 2010

Smartest little intel sperg in the whole world

DoktorLoken posted:

TLDR take your free BAH/BAS/Tricare

word. shimz is probably a fuckin sage tho, my bet is she's looking for someone to tell her to wait so she can call it off before she's trapped in oki

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AIDS CURES FAGGOTS
May 26, 2012

by angerbot
Just get married for the bennies and sex other men in the meantime.


E: shim is the straight talk express

AIDS CURES FAGGOTS fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Feb 28, 2013

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.

TheUnhorse posted:

word. shimz is probably a fuckin sage tho, my bet is she's looking for someone to tell her to wait so she can call it off before she's trapped in oki

The _smart_ thing to do would be not to get married. If she is dead set on walking into the situation that shim outlined then might as well do it now and get that extra money rolling in now.

kathmandu
Jul 11, 2004

vulturesrow posted:

The _smart_ thing to do would be not to get married. If she is dead set on walking into the situation that shim outlined then might as well do it now and get that extra money rolling in now.

Yeah, I mean, it's probably more fiscally advantageous to get married now as opposed to later. But endorsing that from a financial standpoint ends up coming off as an endorsement of the whole idea. I've always held that getting married-- even just getting married earlier than planned-- for monetary reasons is a terrible idea.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

How much leave can you have saved up? I'm at about 40 and we're told we most likely won't get pre-deployment leave. Training (sitting in the defense) needs to be done!

I thought it was 75 but didn't it change to 60? It changes when you're deployed, correct? Because this deployment I'll definitely be over my limit regardless. And they don't really let us use leave outside of a holiday leave block, ugh

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Technically it's 60. If you deploy it goes up to 75. I had 99, and several friends that were over 100. When you get out, you can only sell back 60. It'll keep accruing past the limit until the fiscal year changeover, then you lose anything over the limit.

Turn in leave requests. MAKE THEM DENY IT. If you are denied the opportunity to use your leave and you end up over the use/lose limit, you can make a case to either get it back or get paid for it.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

So if I'm deployed and at 90 days I'll lose everything past 75 after the New Year?

I need to figure out a way to take leave. Some bullshit.


Here it's paper routing again and my chain is the kind that would be all "HAHA NOPE YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR MIND" and not even route it then tell me to gently caress off.

Some dude just got married and got denied house hunting leave because the a-LPO "didn't get it when he got married"

genderstomper58
Jan 10, 2005

by XyloJW
The navy is seriously pretty bad about leave, especially seagoing commands. poo poo is supposed to be a right but on my ships you basically could only take leave at designated stand down times(not always obviously)

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Yeah we had a 2 week holiday stand down for xmas and that's it. Told probably no pre-deployment leave. And we're always training and I'm responsibly for 30-40 dudes so it fucks it up even more. I don't even know why we're paper routing. My last command with the electronic routing and auto check in/out was awesome.

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.

Christoff posted:

Yeah we had a 2 week holiday stand down for xmas and that's it. Told probably no pre-deployment leave. And we're always training and I'm responsibly for 30-40 dudes so it fucks it up even more. I don't even know why we're paper routing. My last command with the electronic routing and auto check in/out was awesome.

The latest NAVADMIN on leave carryover is 026/13. I'm not going to paste the whole thing here, just grab it off the BUPERS website. Make sure you read it and the references but essentially yes it is still 75 days until Sep 2015 when it resets to 60.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
(Marines, Army)

Are tank crew still putting witty slogans on the bulge (I believe this is called a bore evacuator) on the barrel of the main gun on the M1 Abrams? Or has this practice fallen out of favour?

funny way to spell
Nov 4, 2012
When you are overseas can you watch Internet porn?

McSpatula
Aug 5, 2006

about_face posted:

When you are overseas can you watch Internet porn?

Disregarding GO1, cause gently caress GO1, you can watch as much as your heart desires provided your connection is more than two goats yelling into opposite ends of tin cans bound by string.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

about_face posted:

When you are overseas can you watch Internet porn?

You realize most of the world is overseas, right? Different rules for different places. I've been put up in a hotel that had a topless beach (which I didn't know until I'd been there for weeks, but goddamn did we find out in the best way :) ).

The answer is almost always yes. And for those rare occasions where the answer is no, rename your porn folder to something like "math homework."

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I too, like to take troll posts seriously.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
It reminded me of the topless beach and I was blinded by the memory of fantastic tits.

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid
I've always assumed that topless beaches are populated by mostly fat, unattractive, middle-aged women. I have a cynical and pessimistic outlook on life.

[edit: spelling]

Mortabis fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Mar 18, 2013

LEGIT WAR CRIMINAL
Aug 29, 2008

by XyloJW

Mortabis posted:

topless beaches are populated by mostly fat, unattractive, middle-aged men and young, attractive women with great tits who do not wanna have sex with you

Zip
Mar 19, 2006

My fiancee qualifies for champva through the va caregiver program. (Which btw if you have tbi, ptsd or any mental health issues you should call your va contact and sign up for this program. We're getting an extra $2000 a month from it and they need more veterans to participate.)

My VA disability total is 100 percent (265 percent actually) and my fiancee and I have a baby on the way. She qualifies for champva health insurance through the va caregiver program. (Which btw if you have tbi, ptsd or any mental health issues you should call your va contact and sign up for this program. We're getting an extra $2000 a month from it and they need more veterans to participate.)

Champva is only covering a percentage of these maternity appointments so we wind up having to pay an extra $100.00 here or at one point $600.00 wasn't covered... We were thinking of tying the knot before the baby is born and just swapping over to tricare.

I was wondering if anyone knew which insurance covered more so we had less expenses and if there are any other benefits/reasons to get hitched before the baby arrives?

DoggesAndCattes
Aug 2, 2007

about_face posted:

When you are overseas can you watch Internet porn?

While I was in transit from my ship in the Indian Ocean to Norfolk, VA, we were waiting in Bahrain. Our guy that was in charge of people for our ship was a friend of mine, and instead of putting us in a room on base or some lovely hotel room we ended up in a nice hotel that seemed to serve double as a spot for the sex tourism industry. I think there was a bar or two every other floor filled with all sorts of prostitutes.

Cenen
Apr 7, 2011
I got a question about the UCMJ and I don't think it fits into the other thread about the Air Force killing it or whatever. Basically what the gently caress is up with article 125? Did it get repealed or not is the big one but I'm reading the actual article and it seems insane you can be put in confinement for getting a consensual BJ? Like you can get in trouble for a completely consensual act that doesn't affect readiness in anyway and it being forcible sodomy is just icing on the cake? Like gently caress I though it had to be forcible to get charged but with what I'm reading it looks like people may have been charged with just a straight 125 even after Lawrence vs. Texas.

There seems to be a whole lot of misconceptions about that particular article but it says nothing about position as long as your not putting it in the butt or anything so I don't even know where to start with this poo poo.

Also about overseas porn it was blocked for like the first few months I was at Manas but whenever they increased the coverage and sped it up it was unfiltered. In our newfound porn capability we somehow ended up with some Japanese chick warped in saran wrap that she had vomited in.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd
I had an effort post awhile back on that, here's the basic gist of it:

quote:

Sorry, should’ve been more direct…not Lawrence v. Texas specifically, but U.S. v. Marcum and U.S. v. Stirewalt. Without getting into the legalese, the basics are that the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces (so the level below the Supreme Court for all cases involved the U.S. military) has incorporated Lawrence v. Texas, albeit on a case by case basis. Reading between the lines in the cases, one sees that they are all but saying that if a case was somehow brought to their court involving consensual sodomy that had no other factors (i.e., fraternization or some other punishable crime) they would apply the liberty test they developed in U.S. v. Marcum and overturn any conviction. U.S. v. Marcum is the important one because it was argued and decided first. The interesting thing with that case is that they ruled that the conviction under Art 125 held (despite it being “consensual sodomy”) because it involved a relationship between a superior and a subordinate where the superior was taking advantage of his position and authority (and therefore not really consensual as far as the Supreme Court’s intent in Lawrence v. Texas.)

Also interesting is that while U.S. v. Marcum involved homosexual conduct, U.S. v. Stirewalt actually involved consensual heterosexual conduct (it’s a little more complicated than that, as it was a rape case where as part of a plea bargain Stirewalt pled guilty to committing sodomy minus the forcible part, so when the Court of Appeals heard the case, they considered it as consensual heterosexual sodomy, despite the fact that it was part of a 17+ count rape indictment against this dude.)

So basically with Marcum the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces has developed this three part test to apply the liberty interest identified in Lawrence...cutting through all the legalese it comes down to the only way you can be prosecuted under 125 is if a) the sodomy is forcible, b) if it isn't forcible but there is some other mitigating factor bringing it outside the liberty interest in Lawrence (involving a minor, prostitution, lack of ability to give consent, etc) and/or c) there is a compelling military interest (fraternization, superior/subordinate relationship, etc) that overrides the liberty interest in Lawrence.

And position has never been a thing...that whole "if you don't do it missionary style you can be charged with violating the UCMJ" is a bunch of BMT bullshit on the same level as the ether bunny.

Also I knew there was some hullabaloo about repealing 125 a few years back involving bestiality, but I had no idea it turned into this much of a circus

LEGIT WAR CRIMINAL
Aug 29, 2008

by XyloJW
United States v. Fagg is a case related to article 125. Holy poo poo it's gotta suck enough being in the military with a last name like Fagg without getting prosecuted under article 125.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

LEGIT WAR CRIMINAL posted:

United States v. Fagg is a case related to article 125. Holy poo poo it's gotta suck enough being in the military with a last name like Fagg without getting prosecuted under article 125.

Well at least it was for getting multiple blowjobs from as well as repeatedly going down on a 16 year old girl. If the CAAF had bought off on Judge Rives' arguments back in 1991 consensual heterosexual sodomy would've been made legal for members of the Armed Forces, based on the precedent set of the case law US v Fagg.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Is your chain of command allowed to ask for donations or monthly "dues" as they call it? They say it's MWR. Pretty much it's for making paddles for people who PCS/EAS.

I'm not trying to sea lawyer just curious. That's like 40 dudes at least.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Why not just be like every other squadron and sell breakfast burritos once a week or something.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Because they're too busy outside smoking and talking about football

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

Christoff posted:

Is your chain of command allowed to ask for donations or monthly "dues" as they call it? They say it's MWR. Pretty much it's for making paddles for people who PCS/EAS.

I'm not trying to sea lawyer just curious. That's like 40 dudes at least.

It's not officially authorized but the collection of plaque funds, from SNCOs and Officers at least, is widespread throughout the Corps. I haven't ran into any instances of junior Marines and Sailors being required to put in money though.

Honey Badger
Jan 5, 2012

^^^ Like this, but its your mouth, and shit comes out of it.

"edit: Oh neat, babby's first avatar. Kind of a convoluted metaphor but eh..."

No, shit is actually extruding out of your mouth, and your'e a pathetic dick, shut the fuck up.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I figured there was a better chance of someone knowing here than in AT.

Where did people go to join the military during / after WW2? Was it like today where you can just drive to the nearest shopping mall and find some recruiting offices, or did you have to track down some individual office building / go onto a base, etc.?

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

Honey Badger posted:

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I figured there was a better chance of someone knowing here than in AT.

Where did people go to join the military during / after WW2? Was it like today where you can just drive to the nearest shopping mall and find some recruiting offices, or did you have to track down some individual office building / go onto a base, etc.?

During WW2 there was practically a recruiting station on every street corner. Afterwards not so sure, as the military was not volunteer-only at that point.

warsow
Jun 28, 2009

Vasudus posted:

During WW2 there was practically a recruiting station on every street corner. Afterwards not so sure, as the military was not volunteer-only at that point.

Post offices, I believe at the time they either handled the initial get on the bus part or they just referred you to a regional center.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
For draftees, they were often directed to report to major local points that everyone knew...big churches in the area, dance halls, city halls, that sort of thing. Not necessarily government buildings.

Honey Badger
Jan 5, 2012

^^^ Like this, but its your mouth, and shit comes out of it.

"edit: Oh neat, babby's first avatar. Kind of a convoluted metaphor but eh..."

No, shit is actually extruding out of your mouth, and your'e a pathetic dick, shut the fuck up.
To clarify, by "after WW2" I'm talking about like the 1950s, and I'm specifically interested in enlistment rather than drafting. I'd never heard of people enlisting at a post office, but it's hard to find any info on where exactly people signed up at. I assumed recruiting offices / centers were a thing, but had no idea if they were just like a giant processing center somewhere or if they were basically storefronts.

I'm so used to seeing the offices in the mall, but then I realized that is probably a pretty recent thing and I got to wondering how they used to do it.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

I've got my grandfather's Draft Report notice, and he was sent to the local Armory to be shipped out for Basic at Fort Devens, before he was stationed as a quartermaster in France. I scanned it.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Wow, they only gave you 4 weeks notice? I can't even imagine.

gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT
How much choice did a draftee have for branch/MOS/Rate/ETC? Were they allowed to choose anything?

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

HATE CURES TRANNYS posted:

How much choice did a draftee have for branch/MOS/Rate/ETC? Were they allowed to choose anything?

I've heard it was all based on needs at the time. Some people were allowed to volunteer for some types of job but generally it was like "First row is 1, second row is 2, third row is 3."


"First row ships to Benning, Second row ships to Paris Island, third row ships to wherever navy trains people."

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

HATE CURES TRANNYS posted:

How much choice did a draftee have for branch/MOS/Rate/ETC? Were they allowed to choose anything?

One of the biggest incentives for enlisting voluntarily was to choose your job. Draftees were asked preference for service but were not guaranteed their preference.

Null Integer
Mar 1, 2006

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
Does being stationed in Guam for 1 year+ qualify me for the overseas service ribbon(navy)? I'm getting pretty conflicting answers from various boat people.

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genderstomper58
Jan 10, 2005

by XyloJW

Null Integer posted:

Does being stationed in Guam for 1 year+ qualify me for the overseas service ribbon(navy)? I'm getting pretty conflicting answers from various boat people.

weird, i googled that ribbon and i had barely ever ever seen it which is odd because of how many people get stationed overseas


(i have no idea)

i like to wildly speculate without facts though, so id say no because its a us territory or whatever

genderstomper58 fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Mar 22, 2013

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