wikipedia posted:

The character was designed to fit Devil May Cry game developer Hideki Kamiya's vision of a "cool and stylish" man, and his personality was based on the titular character of the manga series Cobra.

Brutakas posted:

GIS for Cobra

I never found Dante stylish but he did have a unique look going on. However, the leather chaps might be a bit too flamboyant (can something flamboyant be too flamboyant?).

1up posted:

Now I've got this mental image of you in a Japanese movie theater, with a bag of popcorn watching a sad movie, having your moment. I think if there's one thing that definitely defines your games, it's that they're all cool. Not like some Western-designed games that feel forced, that want to be extreme or cool. Like "let's put tattoos or ammo belts on the main character," or "Let's put an EA Trax Limp Bizkit-style rap-rock soundtrack on it." Your games are effortlessly cool. They're... Elvis cool. Even with Capcom's own games. Devil May Cry. Cool. Devil May Cry 2 [which Kamiya didn't work on] felt like they were trying too hard. Even with Okami, she's a wolf, but she's the coolest wolf you've ever played in a game. It feels genuinely cool. What's your idea of cool, since it finds its way into your games?

Kamiya posted:

I feel the same way, with Western games where they feel like the designers were trying too hard. I get that feeling from them, and it goes back to that whole "logical versus feeling" way of making games. If you set out trying to make a character cool, it's not going to be cool because it's not natural, because you have to put stuff like a tattoo on to make it cool. If you look at Viewtiful Joe, he's this dude in red tights and a helmet. If you look at him naturally, he's not cool. But I wasn't trying to make him cool. I was trying to make him a fun character to play with, and that's probably why he's cool.

Aurain posted:

Good old Ninja Theory taking the high ground with the homophobia and having their heads up their asses.
They seem to have an ability to find the best way to be as unappealing and off-putting as possible and executing it to a tee.

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"Dante's not gay, but I wish he was" says Ninja Theory creative director Tameem Antoniades. "That would teach all those homophobes out there."

I wish he was gay, too. Aside from being a bigot repellent, it would have been more fitting for Ninja Theory's reimagining of the Devil May Cry series. "The theme of the story is about rebellion," Antoniades states. Everything ties into that notion from Dante's brash attitude, to the street art aesthetic, drastic character redesigns, the name of his sword, and the peculiar abbreviation that keeps that 'm' lowercase for no particular reason.

This sticking-it-to-the-man attitude is apparent from the start of Ninja Theory's presentation, wherein Dante knocks out a bouncer in order to infiltrate a nightclub run by a demon named Lilith. In the world of DmC, demons manipulate aspects of society, and she uses this club to convert members of the upper classes into demon collaborators. "Lilith is like the queen of entertainment," Antoniades notes. "She's like the Simon Cowell of limbo."

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While this all seems ridiculous Antoniades insists that this new version of Devil May Cry is a more sincere approach to the series. "It's more grounded in some ways," he says. "You could say it's more serious." The individual elements are still ludicrous, but it deals with more real world themes like media and government control.

Antoniades explains that, "the satire is a rebellion of establishment. It harkens back to a post-punk period." 28 Days Later and Enslaved scribe Alex Garland is on board as a story consultant, so the narrative aspects that made the previous titles embarrassing to play around polite society should see a vast improvement. "Story is very important to us," adds Antoniades

Alex Garland posted:

I think the first serious discussion we had about the narrative was on the very first day that I, Tameem and the level designers all sat down together. We got to a section where Monkey was walking down a walkway, and he sees an escaping slave trying to pull himself up to the walkway. And instead of helping the guy up, Monkey kicked him in the face and sent him to his death. They thought that projected the idea that Monkey was a badass. Whereas, to me, it projected the idea that Monkey was a bit of a oval office.

Pesky Splinter posted:

Antoniades explains that, "the satire is a rebellion of establishment. It harkens back to a post-punk period." 28 Days Later and Enslaved scribe Alex Garland is on board as a story consultant, so the narrative aspects that made the previous titles embarrassing to play around polite society should see a vast improvement. "Story is very important to us," adds Antoniades

Aurain posted:

Alex Garland was on-board as a story consultant, and is credited in the game but I doubt he actually did anything considering how DmC turned out.

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“With DmC this time, we wanted to avoid the problem that befalls some series where you keep making it with the same team, same hardware, and it tends to decrease and fans move away from it,” [Itsuno] explains. “We wanted to avoid that. We don’t want the series to die.”
...
“What we decided to do was to add new elements and look for a new developer,” he confirms. “Specifically a Western developer that could bring something new to the series, keep it fresh and maybe attract new fans as well.”

Pesky Splinter posted:

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Isn't the guy on the right the 'villain' in his story? And a cry baby high school loser?

WeaponBoy posted:

How exactly does a kid being surrounded by naked angels imply rebelliousness?

ImpAtom posted:

So like... seriously, is the point they're making there "Old Dante was FLAMBOYANT AND GAY, everyone hates that" or something?

well why not posted:

that video roundtable is pretty neat.

I actually really want to replay DmC on a higher difficulty, but people are kind of right about the coloured enemies ... I wish the mechanic was that the themed weapon was more effective, rather than exclusively effective.

Crabtree posted:

I wonder what a gay NT Dante would play like. Would he be openly flirting with Mundus in a "You could do so much better than 'Her' Honey" way, or would he be so deep into the closet that his Devil Trigger would be a literal explosion of "Gay Teenage Rebellion"? Because they'd have to make fun of the old fans while still being offensive some how; the latter would afford NT to still insinuate that old fans aren't open with their feelings about DMC Dante while still allowing new Dante to grow from demonically repressed to flaming and proud.

The combo meter would rise in effeminate pitch as you supposedly fought more "stylishly", his new weapons would have him dance around in sexual potions that would make Bayonetta blush - oh, and obviously Virgil needs to be super straight and bigoted towards Dante by trying to force him to date Kat. Instant mature story that reviewers would love.

well why not posted:

that video roundtable is pretty neat.

I actually really want to replay DmC on a higher difficulty, but people are kind of right about the coloured enemies ... I wish the mechanic was that the themed weapon was more effective, rather than exclusively effective.

BBJoey posted:

Man, I would play the hell out of a game where you played as a half-demon half-angel glam rocker. Or any kind of glam rocker, really.

notZaar posted:

Also, does anybody else ever get that bug where the auto targeting system just fails utterly? If I start shooting the demonic shards as soon as they spawn in (before they start glowing) then Dante will never be able to hit them, even if I'm standing next to them and unloading point blank with the shotgun. Same thing happens with Vergil's summoned swords. If you keep shooting the game wont switch targets when a new one spawns in, and you'll get hit.

Pesky Splinter posted:

These made me laugh:

500-700K sales. Global.

Pesky Splinter posted:

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Spinning Robo posted:

So did they miss the part in dmc3 where Dante gets a bat guitar and literally becomes the "is not" image?

HenessyHero posted:

That loving Sned posted:

Crossposting from the Weirdest Fan Art thread:

Temascos posted:

Oh man someone seriously needs to slap Ninja Theory around the head, freaking asshats.

One of things I don't understand about the "Old Dante would get laughed out of a club" meme they're trying to push is what makes them think Dante would take that poo poo? Let's say people laugh at his outfit, what would he do? He'd sit down, order a drat drink and if anyone attacked him he'd kick their rear end and flirt with 5 women at the same time, whilst having his drink.

Donte would just get thrown out or barred from entering the drat place. And mope on the street corner with some cheap beer, because he's 'rebellious' and poo poo, and then Dante walks out with 5 women and gives Donte some loose change.

Wrist Watch posted:

One of the few things that wasn't poo poo about the DmC thread was that everyone was pretty much in agreement against calling him Donte. Could we at least keep that here too? We don't really have to stoop down to that level.

Temascos posted:

^Yeah, fair enough. I'll change that.^

Back on subject, after I get through Bioshock Infinite I'm strongly thinking about grabbing the HD Collection, this is more of a Euro specific question but is Turbo Mode in DMC3? I remember they removed it in the Special Edition release in the UK for some reason.