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It's all part of the plan, next election Democrats will run someone left of Hugo Chavez but it will be cool cuz he's white
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socialsecurity posted:I love asking people who hate Obama not because he is black but because of the things he has done and the "issues" but ask them when they started to hate him and it will always be the day he was elected. One of my favorite things to do is list details of things he's done, but say that a republican senator or congressman did them. You'd be stunned at how many people are like, "Well, I'm alright with that!" Then you can watch their eyes bug out when you pull the rug out. It's like that poll that found that people who had individual aspects of Obamacare described to them were overwhelmingly in favor of it, but when it was presented just as "Obamacare" they hated it.
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McCloud24 posted:One of my favorite things to do is list details of things he's done, but say that a republican senator or congressman did them. You'd be stunned at how many people are like, "Well, I'm alright with that!" Then you can watch their eyes bug out when you pull the rug out. It's like that poll that found that people who had individual aspects of Obamacare described to them were overwhelmingly in favor of it, but when it was presented just as "Obamacare" they hated it.
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I tried making an account that would make even the batshit insane people think I was crazy (without being an incredibly obvious troll). Instead I am just becoming popular. 
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jimmynmu posted:I tried making an account that would make even the batshit insane people think I was crazy (without being an incredibly obvious troll). Instead I am just becoming popular. Yeah that happened to me as well. I've now just completely stopped pretending but apparently they still don't see it.
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Apr 23, 2013 10:06
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Apr 23, 2013 10:11
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I want to post the worst stuff I've gotten away with saying (I literally have not had a single person call me out for saying any of the really, really horrible stuff I've said and usually just get several likes and, on occasion, an admin literally singling me out to agree with me) but I want them to meet me half-way to ban me. I'm saving it all for posterity, though. Once I get banned I'll post it all here.
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Apr 23, 2013 10:23
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thehumandignity posted:This here is a good one: http://www.politicalcompass.org/ That test would be alot more accurate if it included a z axis and didn't use the word libertarian to describe social liberalism. However they are a bit fun to take. My score,Economic Left/Right: -7.88, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33. I consider my self a socialist so I guess that's about right, sorta.
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Apr 23, 2013 10:51
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Yeah I'm at a loss for why the word "libertarian" came to exist when "liberal" is a word that already means that. I've had someone try to explain it to me as being an extremist liberal, but doesn't that just mean anarchist? As far as I can tell the only people who identify as "libertarians" are people that think government intervention is okay up to the point where they most benefit from it, and beyond that it shouldn't do anything and anyone left out of that umbrella should just fend for themselves.
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thehumandignity posted:Yeah I'm at a loss for why the word "libertarian" came to exist when "liberal" is a word that already means that. I've had someone try to explain it to me as being an extremist liberal, but doesn't that just mean anarchist? As far as I can tell the only people who identify as "libertarians" are people that think government intervention is okay up to the point where they most benefit from it, and beyond that it shouldn't do anything and anyone left out of that umbrella should just fend for themselves. I'm not up on politics much but a wiki search gives a couple of simple definitions I think point out that difference: "Libertarianism is a set of related political philosophies that uphold liberty as the highest political end. This includes emphasis on the primacy of individual liberty, political freedom, and voluntary association." / "Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality." So, in my ultra amateur reading, libertarian = liberty for me; liberal = liberty for everyone.
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Apr 23, 2013 12:40
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Liberalism is "stop being an rear end in a top hat to people." Libertarianism is "stop making me not be an rear end in a top hat to people." A liberal wants black people to have the freedom to sit wherever they want to. A libertarian wants public transport corporations to have the freedom to tell black people to sit wherever they want them to.
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McCloud24 posted:One of my favorite things to do is list details of things he's done, but say that a republican senator or congressman did them. You'd be stunned at how many people are like, "Well, I'm alright with that!" Then you can watch their eyes bug out when you pull the rug out. It's like that poll that found that people who had individual aspects of Obamacare described to them were overwhelmingly in favor of it, but when it was presented just as "Obamacare" they hated it. My father in law forgets how he was all about using Romney's Massachusetts health care system on a nationwide basis until Obama purposed it.
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Cardiovorax posted:Liberalism is "stop being an rear end in a top hat to people." Libertarianism is "stop making me not be an rear end in a top hat to people." A liberal wants black people to have the freedom to sit wherever they want to. A libertarian wants public transport corporations to have the freedom to tell black people to sit wherever they want them to. All the hair-splitting among libertarians regarding initiation of force, minarchism vs. anarcho-capitalism, etc. notwithstanding, yeah, that's pretty much it. Also: "gently caress you, got mine." It is not my goal to perpetuate this derail, but I thought this might be worth sharing. It's a pretty comprehensive takedown of libertarianism--or some strong versions of it, anyway. "Libertarians" are not a homogeneous lot, and "libertarianism" is not a monolithic political philosophy, so you can't really paint them with too broad of a brush. There are plenty of ways in which my own views overlap with some versions of libertarianism. But when it comes to the growing hordes of internet libertarians (who are frequently an-cap), I think this critique applies to quite a few of them: http://raikoth.net/libertarian.html Glibertarianism, indeed.
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ObamunistTrollBot posted:My father in law forgets how he was all about using Romney's Massachusetts health care system on a nationwide basis until Obama purposed it. Anyone FOR that system has never lived under it. It loving SUCKS. And don't get me started on the rest of the MA bullshit.
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iostream.h posted:This is the biggest argument I had with my friends during the past election cycle. Not to further derail but I've only ever heard good things from MA residents about it.
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Killsion posted:Not to further derail but I've only ever heard good things from MA residents about it. Let's be friends and agree that insurance in general in the US is just overall hosed up. 
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Apr 23, 2013 17:58
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thehumandignity posted:This here is a good one: http://www.politicalcompass.org/ I got around -8.88/-7.18. What is funny is that the political compass actually has Gary Johnson, and previously Ron Paul, right in the middle of the Authoritarian/ Byde fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Apr 23, 2013 |
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Apr 23, 2013 18:00
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What if those Muslims are legal citizens with Constitutional rights? I thought they were horrified by the idea of the government taking away citizens' rights.
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I know it's really easy for people like us to get thick-skinned after trolling this site for over two months, but I really hope most of you all make the effort to still get queasy when you see blatant Nazi-style hate speech like this. Jesus Christ. That's a SITE ADMIN. I bet the FBI is having a field day with this place.
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Apr 23, 2013 18:03
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Cody Banks posted:What if those Muslims are legal citizens with Constitutional rights?
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Cody Banks posted:Jesus Christ. That's a SITE ADMIN. I bet the FBI is having a field day with this place. Well the FBI routinely bugs mosques, so...
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Hazo posted:Jesus Christ. That's a SITE ADMIN. I bet the FBI is having a field day with this place. Probably not, unfortunately. As much as we bitch and moan, I'd wager that not of these people is capable of doing any of the poo poo they talk about, and the FBI has much more sophisticated ways of figuring out the odds than I do. I mean look, as often as we've reported something on their site, not a single one has made a post about the FBI contacting them or anything, unless I've missed something.
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McCloud24 posted:FBI sophisticated Hahahahahaha. 
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McCloud24 posted:Probably not, unfortunately. As much as we bitch and moan, I'd wager that not of these people is capable of doing any of the poo poo they talk about, and the FBI has much more sophisticated ways of figuring out the odds than I do. I mean look, as often as we've reported something on their site, not a single one has made a post about the FBI contacting them or anything, unless I've missed something. There was the one particularly crazy guy who got not just banned, but had everything he ever posted or posted in deleted, before they automate such things. We figured the FBI must have contacted the admins about him, at least.
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Is there something wrong with the login or was I banned. I haven't been on in days and my deep cover is just a normal person who likes Tea Party things. e: Ha ha, I was banned for literally no reason I think. Was it because I called Glenn Beck a charlatan? Madison Sheppard--if anyone cares to check and let me know. Time to roll out a new one... usbombshell fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Apr 23, 2013 |
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Apr 23, 2013 19:08
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usbombshell posted:Is there something wrong with the login or was I banned. I haven't been on in days and my deep cover is just a normal person who likes Tea Party things. I got banned on the Glenn Beck thread a few pages back, so that very well could have done it. Would be nice if they actually told you why they were banning you. But it would also be nice if their site wasn't so all around lovely.
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Cody Banks posted:What if those Muslims are legal citizens with Constitutional rights? I thought they were horrified by the idea of the government taking away citizens' rights. Hazo posted:I know it's really easy for people like us to get thick-skinned after trolling this site for over two months, but I really hope most of you all make the effort to still get queasy when you see blatant Nazi-style hate speech like this. Jesus Christ. That's a SITE ADMIN. I bet the FBI is having a field day with this place. Citizens' rights for mooslims, what are you a mooslim lover? Yeah, as long I've been staring into this abyss that shocked me. She's either trolling us or is a frighteningly ignorant woman. I know which is most likely. Forgot these from last night. Ken's allcaps speak volumes.     romeo x-ray fucked around with this message at 01:03 on May 28, 2013 |
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Apr 23, 2013 20:23
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"Something ain't right" indeed.
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No, I don't believe that at all. Looks like a real photo to me. What, do you have a PhD in photoshoppery or something?
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Cardiovorax posted:They're afraid of the government taking away their right to own guns. Everyone else can go get hosed. Yeah, when is this mass gun confiscation supposed to happen? We're into Obama's second term already and I still have all of mine. Must be bureaucracy holding it up.
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Hahaha how did this even work? Is Ken being suprisingly lenient towards obvious trolls or is Wheelock a true-believer brownnoser who got tricked so they're giving him a second chance?Cody Banks posted:Yeah, when is this mass gun confiscation supposed to happen? We're into Obama's second term already and I still have all of mine. Must be bureaucracy holding it up.
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Hazo posted:Hahaha how did this even work? Is Ken being suprisingly lenient towards obvious trolls or is Wheelock a true-believer brownnoser who got tricked so they're giving him a second chance? When Mod8 was new (and maybe didn't actually have mod powers yet  ), he was known to give about 3-5 "final" warnings before obvious trolls were banned. Whether that was banning them himself, or calling over someone with real mod capabilities, we may never know.
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Axetrain posted:That test would be alot more accurate if it included a z axis and didn't use the word libertarian to describe social liberalism. However they are a bit fun to take. My score,Economic Left/Right: -7.88, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33. I consider my self a socialist so I guess that's about right, sorta. There's actually a version of the political spectrum that does exactly this. Here's two versions of a 3D political chart. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/7/7/281/05051 http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/6/14/45425/6208 It's still not perfect and has to leave out some political ideologies; maybe someone somewhere is working on a four-dimensional tesseract that can accurately depict all political positions on a chart.
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This just in, John "Forling" Bynum is a flaming racist. News at 11.  When he says it this clearly, how can TPC not ban this fucker? Edit: thumbnails O Rapture fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Apr 23, 2013 |
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But he didn't use any racial slurs, you see? 
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"I feel threatened by browns as a privileged white male with no real understanding of discrimination" - TPC
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"The unrestrained savagery of the inner-city black." Jesus Christ.
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"Race is not a skin color!" "The unrestrained savagery of the inner-city black." I wonder how many family outings these people have not been invited to, or made to sit at a separate table.
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