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9031 | 65.25% |
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Quest For Glory II posted:I'm just. I can't even begin to imagine how you guys can see how badly Nintendo's approach to marketing and presenting this system has stunted the system's growth worldwide, and respond with "Yeah that's good, they should keep doing this not marketing and presenting thing. They should do even less, actually." The blind faith in Iwata drives me nuts. Yes, he contributed to an era where Nintendo captured an audience no one ever had before and made them a ton of money. That doesn't mean he's infallible and can't make mistakes. A second hosed launch in a row should prove that. Paper Jam Dipper posted:Sony is already releasing consoles that act as Blu-Ray delivery systems so that's exactly their business MO. Nintendo is a toy manufacturer so we'll get consoles next generation as well. But Microsoft? Unless they are married to the Kinect, they should consider just moving their gaming division to their PCs again. Especially if they could sell a "Windows X-Box Surface" that people attach to their tablets to play Halo on the go. Microsoft are making wayyyyy too much money off of the 360 to get out of the console game at this point. Random Stranger posted:A lot of people can't effectively get the benefits of 1080p from their television. We're pretty close to a maximum useful resolution; you'll need absurdly giant screens and sit close to them to do much better. This is very true. Also, 4k TVS are going to require an absolutely massive jump in graphics card tech to game on. 4x the pixels means you need 4x the power. Plus we've only recently gotten to the point where a majority of TVs in US households are HD. There's no way 4k will be A Thing in the near future. Crowbear fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Apr 25, 2013 |
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Craziest part about it to me is that it's a port of the JAGUAR version. The Jag/32x/3DO/GBA versions are all based off the same set of changes. At the time the Jag version was really the best port; it was one of the few to retain monster infighting. The SNES port was interesting in that it was developed separately from all the other contemporary ports with a different engine, and as such several levels are much different (generally closer to the PC).
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Apr 25, 2013 23:53
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Supercar Gautier posted:As I said, they do need to step up their marketing, but the E3 presentations are the wrong thing to throw a shitfit about because they don't reach the part of the playerbase that has dropped off. Maybe Nintendo feels snakebitten after last year's E3 did not go super great for them, but their presentation was not very good either. They spent a half hour talking about a year old Arkham City port, their games on the showfloor had framerate issues, and they made Nintendoland look like a trip to the dentist (I'm still convinced some Wii U owners avoided Nintendoland because of how bad that presentation was). And Nintendoland's a great fuckin game. I think E3 is just part of what I think they need to step up their game at. Shrinking away and spending less money on advertising this year is just weird to me. I'd be touring America with kiosks, going on every talk show, buying ads during national sporting events, taking billboards in NYC... some of the things that they did to market the original Wii to the uninitiated that they're clearly not doing now, either because they assumed those people would just show up, or some other unknown reason. It doesn't have to be fireworks, or syncopated dancers, or a celebrity endorsement. How about just doing what they did last year, but actually having content to show? Last year was really mellow and low-key and low-budget, it was calm and casual, I actually had no issue with the way they did it, there just wasn't anything to show. The only real reason why I can fathom them not going with the same approach this year, is because they still don't have significant content to show. You can't fill an entire E3 keynote with just talking about Wind Waker HD, WIP footage of Smash Bros & Mario Kart, and possibly a main Mario title if it even makes it out this holiday. But you can fill a Nintendo Direct with that paltry amount of content. And that's what I think the real reason ultimately is -- there's still no games, and still no third party support. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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Apr 25, 2013 23:59
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Crowbear posted:Microsoft are making wayyyyy too much money off of the 360 to get out of the console game at this point. But didn't they lose massive money on the 360 hardware for several years before turning a profit? Don't they spend a massive amount of money convincing developers to make games for them? Why couldn't they just turn the PC into their console? I'm just spitballing here.
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Apr 26, 2013 00:03
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:But didn't they lose massive money on the 360 hardware for several years before turning a profit? Don't they spend a massive amount of money convincing developers to make games for them? Why couldn't they just turn the PC into their console? You live in a fantasy world. As simple as it is technology scares people and they don't know jack poo poo about building gaming computers or what they're even supposed to have. People are torn apart when they discover their $1000+ macs have the video capabilities of an 80s arcade machine. Speaking of  there's still the very hard-to-shake stigma that gaming computers cost a fortune and dim the whole neighborhood when they're turned on. I can get a PC running BF3 smooth for 500~600ish, and with all the money you save on Steam sales and other crazy/free poo poo (and let's not forget the wealth of PC-exclusive f2p games) you make that all back and then some. It is the most sound investment. America/the public don't like sound long-term, they want immediate gratification. Consoles do that. (pcmasterrace.txt)
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Apr 26, 2013 00:12
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:But didn't they lose massive money on the 360 hardware for several years before turning a profit? Don't they spend a massive amount of money convincing developers to make games for them? Why couldn't they just turn the PC into their console? PCs are more expensive, the hardware isn't standardized, and they generally aren't conducive to the "take over the living room" thing Microsoft has going on these days. They have the momentum right now, at least in the states. They're still selling 250k+ 360s a month 7 years in and are probably going to pass the Wii for total console sales in the US by the end of the year. They also have 46 million (something around there) Xbox Live subscribers right now, some of whom may not care to try out or go back to PC gaming. Also they might be lunatics who are throwing it all away if they pull the always-online bullshit that's been rumored so who knows.
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Apr 26, 2013 00:13
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Crowbear posted:Also they might be lunatics who are throwing it all away if they pull the always-online bullshit that's been rumored so who knows. It's going to be interesting to see if they go with that. Especially after how much a flaming pile of death SimCity has turned out to be. It's nice to see that it seems Nintendo hasn't even thought about it.
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Apr 26, 2013 00:14
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Crowbear posted:PCs are more expensive, the hardware isn't standardized, and they generally aren't conducive to the "take over the living room" thing Microsoft has going on these days. Thanks for mentioning X-box live, I had forgotten to cancel auto-renew. I got it just in time.
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Apr 26, 2013 00:21
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Somehow I spent a couple hours on that Rayman thing. How did that happen?? Also in the distance traveled the thing just stops playing around and is out for your blood at 1500 in, like forward pushing wind, hesitate for a fraction of a second and your dead movements, and physics abuse.
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Apr 26, 2013 00:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwDngBhmQXY THE YEAR OF LUIGI CONTINUES. LUIGI DOMINATION
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Apr 26, 2013 00:49
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greatn posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwDngBhmQXY  Edit: Oh now it does, what the hell...
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Apr 26, 2013 00:51
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8-bit Miniboss posted:
It's probably those darned ghosts' doing!
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Apr 26, 2013 00:56
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Quest For Glory II posted:I'm just. I can't even begin to imagine how you guys can see how badly Nintendo's approach to marketing and presenting this system has stunted the system's growth worldwide, and respond with "Yeah that's good, they should keep doing this not marketing and presenting thing. They should do even less, actually." I'm kind of conflicted about it myself. They used to have Space World in addition to E3 and TGS just because of the huge volume of stuff they were constantly publishing. If each of these Nintendo Directs start to be packed with info and announcements instead of one long show of nothing it could be a good idea. They may also be doing this to avoid embarrassment. Remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeR0fL9ofYY I can't find the clip from the door that really puts it into perspective, but when the Wii was playable for the first time literally EVERYONE for like the first half hour went directly to Nintendo, passing Microsoft and Sony completely by. I have a feeling if Nintendo is there in force this year you'd see the same thing but with people rushing to the XBox 720 and PS4. So reducing E3 to a Microsoft/Sony pissing contest so Nintendo can do its own thing might not be genius, but it may be the "least bad" thing to do.
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Apr 26, 2013 01:01
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Having never played Rayman Origins I wasn't sure what to expect for this Legends Trials app. I guess Ubisoft did their job by totally selling me on it. The castle rock level put a huge smile on my face.
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Apr 26, 2013 01:13
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Jjaarreett posted:Having never played Rayman Origins I wasn't sure what to expect for this Legends Trials app. I guess Ubisoft did their job by totally selling me on it. The castle rock level put a huge smile on my face. You should play Origins! It's really good!
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Apr 26, 2013 01:16
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The update looks out everywhere now, if you want to get it while its hot.
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Apr 26, 2013 01:30
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greatn posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwDngBhmQXY The Year of Luigi is truly panning out to be the greatest year ever.
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Apr 26, 2013 01:31
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The update is gonna take an hour and thirty minutes. the gently caress am I downloading. I've never had this issue before!
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Apr 26, 2013 01:36
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Just to get a clarification, when are the Virtual Console games coming out in the eShop? Is it shortly after this update, or is it on a later date? vvv Many thanks! HelloWinter fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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Apr 26, 2013 01:38
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HelloWinter posted:Just to get a clarification, when are the Virtual Console games coming out in the eShop? Is it shortly after this update, or is it on a later date? Some time tomorrow.
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Apr 26, 2013 01:39
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So is the update NOT showing up for anyone?
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Apr 26, 2013 01:49
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romanowski posted:So is the update NOT showing up for anyone? I'm downloading it at the moment. A few minutes ago, it said 50 minutes remaining, but now it's about a quarter of the way through and says 26 minutes remaining.
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Apr 26, 2013 01:51
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Bobnumerotres posted:It is the most sound investment. America/the public don't like sound long-term, they want immediate gratification. Consoles do that. Neo Rasa posted:I'm kind of conflicted about it myself. They used to have Space World in addition to E3 and TGS just because of the huge volume of stuff they were constantly publishing. If each of these Nintendo Directs start to be packed with info and announcements instead of one long show of nothing it could be a good idea. If the more private, journalist-and-distributor focused press conferences mean more focus on the games and less goddamn charts and statistics? I'm all for it.
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Apr 26, 2013 02:02
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romanowski posted:So is the update NOT showing up for anyone? Instead of using the Download Management page, use the System Settings > Update function. That should get it going. It's possible they haven't sent out the push notification for updates yet.
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Apr 26, 2013 02:04
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Three minutes left. 
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Apr 26, 2013 02:10
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Chronojam posted:Instead of using the Download Management page, use the System Settings > Update function. That should get it going. It's possible they haven't sent out the push notification for updates yet. Oh, there it is. Thanks!
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Apr 26, 2013 02:11
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Two hours and a half to go. Australian ADSL is the worst goddamned thing.
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Apr 26, 2013 02:29
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I'm psyched that there is a unified overscan setting now.
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Apr 26, 2013 02:29
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Anybody monitoring their data know the size of the update?
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Apr 26, 2013 02:39
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Finish downloading the update. Under your user thing at the beginning, it shows your Nintendo Network ID underneath. Don't remember that being there before. It also lets you know that you can boot straight into Wii mode from powering up by holding the B button on the game pad. Everything's so much faster now 
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Apr 26, 2013 02:41
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AngryCaterpillar posted:Anybody monitoring their data know the size of the update? I saw a number in the 600's
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Apr 26, 2013 02:41
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It's 673MB
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Apr 26, 2013 02:41
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Wow, this update really should been in the launch. So this is all the updates or there still one more next month? I noticed the eShop is closed for the moment so many we won't have to wait until tomorrow to buy Super Mario World.
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Apr 26, 2013 02:42
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Rirse posted:Wow, this update really should been in the launch. So this is all the updates or there still one more next month? I noticed the eShop is closed for the moment so many we won't have to wait until tomorrow to buy Super Mario World.
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Apr 26, 2013 02:44
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:I saw a number in the 600's Crowbear posted:It's 673MB Thanks.
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Apr 26, 2013 02:44
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kirbysuperstar posted:Two hours and a half to go. Australian ADSL is the worst goddamned thing. I've got an hour to go. I just want to get back to 
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Apr 26, 2013 02:47
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drat, this update.  That's an impressive speedup.
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Apr 26, 2013 02:50
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Edoraz posted:drat, this update. It's like I downloaded more RAM, but it actually worked!
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Apr 26, 2013 02:57
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It crashed on me but when I re-started it, it was at 80% so that's good!
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:It crashed on me but when I re-started it, it was at 80% so that's good! Yep, same. Completed just fine afterwards though. And yeah, this is much better. I still feel like it could be faster but this is a major improvement, it really should have launched like this. I also like (read: why the hell did it not do that before) that the screen now fades out when you turn it off, instead of just feeling like it crashed.
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