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NihilCredo posted:"Any forum but this one is a terrible place filled with idiots" is just a bloody obnoxious goon meme. GitP's forum is absolutely full of those.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 19:32 |
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Colon V posted:You know those stupid alignment arguments that sometimes crop up in this thread? I tend to consult it to find (partial) builds on various characters. Usually for Xykon's spell list. But, yes, there is a lot of meta D&D discussion rather than anything of substance. Just like this thread during a long update period.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 19:40 |
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The OOTS forum on GitP is the Realm of the Sperglords; but the rest of the forums is okay.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 20:42 |
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The GitP forums were basically a second TV Tropes, pedophilia included, as of my last visit there. Not a place I recommend visiting.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 21:39 |
NihilCredo posted:They're really hardcore as any quick glance at their megathreads on putting stats on OotS characters will reveal, but I don't remember anything especially awful. "Any forum but this one is a terrible place filled with idiots" is just a bloody obnoxious goon meme. The GitP forums are pretty spergy and threads often descend to TVTropes level of weirdness. I visit lots of non-SA forums, many of them are great, but GitP forums are not in that list.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 22:16 |
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It's a fairly good place to ask for advice about roleplaying in general, different systems, character builds and so on though. I usually check their Roleplaying Games and Webcomics sub-forums (they have a Rusty&Co thread). Like others have said, you probably want to stay away from the actual Oots part of it.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 23:11 |
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NihilCredo posted:They're really hardcore as any quick glance at their megathreads on putting stats on OotS characters will reveal, but I don't remember anything especially awful. "Any forum but this one is a terrible place filled with idiots" is just a bloody obnoxious goon meme. They skew young, and nerdy. There's some decent stuff in there though. And Rich's apopleptic whenever they try and tell him how to do his job are loving hilarious. Also they have the phenomenal Silverclawshift archive of her 3.5 campaigns she played in, which are just great.
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# ? Apr 30, 2013 01:28 |
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New comic! One-emoticon summary: How much of what we just saw was even real?
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# ? May 5, 2013 08:17 |
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Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss it's so good
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# ? May 5, 2013 08:23 |
obviously none of it after the runes come into the picture.
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# ? May 5, 2013 08:25 |
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But, even then there'd still be the phylactery, don't be so dumb, Roy!
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# ? May 5, 2013 08:25 |
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Cliff Racer posted:But, even then there'd still be the phylactery, don't be so dumb, Roy! Well yeah, but it's around the neck of the trapped goblin with the red cloak.
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# ? May 5, 2013 08:28 |
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Vorgen posted:obviously none of it after the runes come into the picture. Notice that Vaarsuvius is uninjured. Where did the healing magic come from if this Vaarsuvius is real? I suppose V could technically cast Limited Wish to pull that off, but ... Edit: Yeah, other things are amiss too. Something's very, very wrong with Redcloak that's not immediately obvious. Compare the real Redcloak here. Boldor fucked around with this message at 08:34 on May 5, 2013 |
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jng2058 posted:Key point will be whether or not MitD is right behind Redcloak. Since Roy got fully briefed by O-Chul, he knows there's not much reason to fear Monster-san. If he's there, then the odds increase that it's really Xykon and Redcloak getting in from some back entrance that they know about because Girard trusted Serini, and she put it in the diary. CALLED IT! No Monster, no reality! (Also, you can tell that V ain't real when she arrives since there's no Blackwing, which is another detail that Roy would omit, and we know that V looks pretty rough right now, and the V here is in pretty good shape.) Nothing since the door opened is real. Possibly nothing since they entered the squiggly rune room is real, including Haley not finding a trap on the runes. EDIT: Oh, and Xykon remembered Roy's name, even pleading with him by name not to kill him. Which, since he still has his phylactery safe somewhere is completely at odds with the last time Roy had Xykon at his mercy, back at the Redmountain Gate, where his reaction to his imminent destruction was "Well, crap." jng2058 fucked around with this message at 08:49 on May 5, 2013 |
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# ? May 5, 2013 08:45 |
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oh my God please don't let Roy have killed V Please please please don't let Roy have killed V
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# ? May 5, 2013 08:45 |
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Boldor posted:Notice that Vaarsuvius is uninjured. Where did the healing magic come from if this Vaarsuvius is real? I suppose V could technically cast Limited Wish to pull that off, but ... Also, Xykon killed Mr. Scruffy in the illusion, which was the biggest tip off before the runes for me. Since Belkar's alive in the last panel, everything else must be fake.
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# ? May 5, 2013 08:47 |
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Also 'Redcloak' is still carrying his his old holy symbol (Xykon's phylactery) here - his current one is diamond-shaped. So yes, either phantasmal killer or maybe some epic illusion that makes the target believe that whatever reason they had for seeking the gate is no longer necessary. Edit: Boldor posted:Edit: Yeah, other things are amiss too. Something's very, very wrong with Redcloak that's not immediately obvious. Compare the real Redcloak here. Ooh, good catch. Roy ought to know which eye Redcloak's lost, but maybe in the excitement he or O-Chul forgot which one? DoctorTristan fucked around with this message at 09:35 on May 5, 2013 |
# ? May 5, 2013 09:24 |
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Xykon and Redcloak's Will saves may be too high, as might some of the Linear Guild's, but I'm very interested now what the other gate hunting parties would see entering that corridor.
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# ? May 5, 2013 09:27 |
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Yeah I have a feeling that last panel wasn't the big reveal but the rather beat before it. I think Roy actually did kill someone he thought was Xykon. Someone who was using his name while pleading? V?
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# ? May 5, 2013 09:35 |
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Nilbop posted:oh my God please don't let Roy have killed V His sword is sheathed. They haven't actually moved. DoctorTristan posted:maybe some epic illusion that makes the target believe that whatever reason they had for seeking the gate is no longer necessary. That'd be my bet.
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# ? May 5, 2013 09:35 |
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It is perhaps telling that in Roy's Fantasy Adventure, Belkar dies quickly.
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# ? May 5, 2013 09:37 |
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:It is perhaps telling that in Roy's Fantasy Adventure, Belkar dies quickly. I wonder what the others are seeing.
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# ? May 5, 2013 09:39 |
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Cat Mattress posted:His sword is sheathed. They haven't actually moved. Yeah that. They're just standing there drooling.
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# ? May 5, 2013 09:44 |
DivineCoffeeBinge posted:It is perhaps telling that in Roy's Fantasy Adventure, Belkar dies quickly.
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# ? May 5, 2013 10:33 |
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I think the most important thing here is that Roy now knows how to do that spell-disrupting move he learned in the afterlife.
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# ? May 5, 2013 10:46 |
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nimby posted:I think the most important thing here is that Roy now knows how to do that spell-disrupting move he learned in the afterlife.
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# ? May 5, 2013 11:08 |
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jng2058 posted:CALLED IT! Sorry I called it before you dude. Affi posted:Five hundred pretendbux that this is an illusion.
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# ? May 5, 2013 11:30 |
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Affi posted:Sorry I called it before you dude. Nope, he said that it's guaranteed to be an illusion if the Monster doesn't show up. So, he still gets the cool points.
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# ? May 5, 2013 11:33 |
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Zereth posted:You mean the guy who barely has enough Con to not die from having no Con, and thus has huge, retroactive penalties to all his HP rolls? And thus would fold like a world champion laundry folder if he actually gets hit by, for example, an epic level sorcerer's damage spells? Actually I mean "the guy Roy doesn't like at all and who clearly will never make an Evasion roll since it's Roy's Dream World," but y'know, pretty much the same thing.
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# ? May 5, 2013 11:56 |
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... huh.
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# ? May 5, 2013 12:33 |
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:It is perhaps telling that in Roy's Fantasy Adventure, Belkar dies quickly.
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# ? May 5, 2013 12:35 |
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My Lovely Horse posted:Xykon and Redcloak's Will saves may be too high, as might some of the Linear Guild's, but I'm very interested now what the other gate hunting parties would see entering that corridor. Xykon is also undead and therefore immune to phantasms.
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# ? May 5, 2013 13:29 |
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Man, that comic kicked rear end!! What do the glowing runes spell out?
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# ? May 5, 2013 14:10 |
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tripwood posted:Man, that comic kicked rear end!! My Lovely Horse posted:Nothing quite so advanced, simply Miskatonic, the go-to font for your webcomics' magic language runes needs. 8-Bit Theater used to do stuff with it here and there, that's where I know it from. Nothing to actually read in there really, it's more like a symbol substitution cypher.
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# ? May 5, 2013 16:19 |
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I wasn't sure the glowing ones spelled the same thing, thanks.
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# ? May 5, 2013 16:32 |
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It's a neat detail that the colors start getting more and more washed out as the sequence plays out, to the point Roy's sword's hilt turns blue.
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# ? May 5, 2013 16:37 |
So I got to thinking about what the narrative purpose of this sequence was, and it feels like it was mainly to establish ahead of time that a melee-range one-on-one between Roy and Xykon at this point would, under the D&D rules of the comic, lead to a victory for Roy. Which probably means that when that situation finally pops up for real, circumstances will conspire to force Roy to abandon the opportunity to off Xykon (perhaps to rescue someone else, because of blackmail or, getting into crazy unlikely turf, the necessity of a Roy/Xykon team-up to stop someone else like a Redcloak who has finally shown his true colors)
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# ? May 5, 2013 16:52 |
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Slashrat posted:So I got to thinking about what the narrative purpose of this sequence was, and it feels like it was mainly to establish ahead of time that a melee-range one-on-one between Roy and Xykon at this point would, under the D&D rules of the comic, lead to a victory for Roy. Or: Roy will try to do it and realize too late that Xykon has a counter he didn't expect.
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# ? May 5, 2013 16:57 |
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No, I think the narrative purpose is to have the Order helpless so that literally only Varsuvius can save them now. Just because the "greatest dream" enchantment has Roy beating Xykon so easily doesn't mean that his move will be an instant win button.
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# ? May 5, 2013 17:04 |
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quote:maybe some epic illusion that makes the target believe that whatever reason they had for seeking the gate is no longer necessary. I wonder who's going to be the one to see through it. The most obvious choice is Roy, who had earlier demonstrated enough analytic skill to see through not-Thog; but to see through an illusion first you have to want to, and we've just seen Roy almost completely broken, and kind of desperate to get things back in order and win the day. Who else can see through the illusion, then? Maybe someone who would, in doing so, prove that he does count. Someone who has the ability to immediately see the scenario that just occurred for what it is, which is a very awkward anticlimax...
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# ? May 5, 2013 17:09 |