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Jenny Olsen is rumored to actually be Jimmy's sister in Man of Steel, although with that character who really gives a poo poo if they did a gender swap. Either way it's less dumb than in Smallville where Jimmy Olsen who was introduced and then died was the older brother or whatever of the "real" Jimmy Olsen.
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mind the walrus posted:It looks like they took those praises to heart because everything I've seen from the villains to the costuming thus far screams "We're going with Ultimate Spidey" and that is by far the right call to make. The folks at Badass Digest have been dropping hints over the past few months that the script is terrific, too.
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May 15, 2013 04:14
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feedmyleg posted:The folks at Badass Digest have been dropping hints over the past few months that the script is terrific, too. Honestly, the only pre-release script that was good and actually lived up to it in final form was Batman Begins.
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mind the walrus posted:It looks like they took those praises to heart because everything I've seen from the villains to the costuming thus far screams "We're going with Ultimate Spidey" and that is by far the right call to make. I've never been a huge fan of Spider-Man, but recently I've had to chance to start reading through Ultimate Spider-Man from the beginning. Bendis really made the character astoundingly entertaining.
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May 15, 2013 05:08
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DFu4ever posted:I've never been a huge fan of Spider-Man, but recently I've had to chance to start reading through Ultimate Spider-Man from the beginning. Bendis really made the character astoundingly entertaining. Ultimate Spidey definitely has its share of misstepps-- Carnage or any tie-in with Ultimate Events--but overall it's really something special. Everything from the Halfway House "Amazing Friends" arc onwards owns. Thwomp posted:Honestly, the only pre-release script that was good and actually lived up to it in final form was Batman Begins. Even then we still had stupid stuff like the Microwave Gun and "I've got to get me one of these." It's my favorite Batman movie but man is some stuff awkward.
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May 15, 2013 05:13
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Here's the full Agents of SHIELD trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3T-evQZiQo
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May 15, 2013 06:24
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The MSJ posted:Here's the full Agents of SHIELD trailer. Was that Ming-Na Wen?  Other than that, it looks exactly like what I expect from the CW.
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May 15, 2013 06:54
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The MSJ posted:Here's the full Agents of SHIELD trailer. That looks pretty cool, and I'm very interested in the idea of a superhero show that doesn't focus on the superheroes, because it's an odd concept to roll with. Also... the superpowered black guy in that trailer. Is that Luke Cage, some other Marvel character, or a brand new character being made for the show?
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May 15, 2013 07:19
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Could be a bunch of guys at this point since the powers displayed are very generic. Patriot, Rage, and Luke Cage seem to be the three big guesses I'm seeing around town. I'd rather them not do Luke Cage, at least not right away, and focus on true C-Listers, because Luke Cage needs to be played by Michael Jai White.
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The "shield" joke might means he's Patriot. They could then tie his origins to more experiments with the Super Soldier serum like they did with the Hulk (in Ultimate Comics it was also true for mutants, Spider-man, Green Goblin and Venom).
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May 15, 2013 07:33
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I will only watch if some guy in the show has massive scars that could only have been caused by three claws slashing his face - be it a hardcore agent, a bitter villain, or a dancing bear that is hardcore and bitter. I demand the creators confirm this will happen or I will not watch.
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May 15, 2013 08:11
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Supreme Allah posted:I will only watch if some guy in the show has massive scars that could only have been caused by three claws slashing his face - be it a hardcore agent, a bitter villain, or a dancing bear that is hardcore and bitter. I demand the creators confirm this will happen or I will not watch. But Nick Fury already has those. 
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May 15, 2013 08:19
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The MSJ posted:Here's the full Agents of SHIELD trailer. Say what you will about Joss Whedon's strengths and weaknesses, but he does good TV and this concept seems to have waaaaaaay less creepy potential than stuff like Dollhouse. I'm officially excited for this now. E: I'm kinda getting a Fringe + superpowers vibe off of this.
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May 15, 2013 09:01
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So they didn't bring over anyone from those Marvel One-shots? I expected to at least bring some of the over.
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May 15, 2013 10:08
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AGirlWonder posted:Was that Ming-Na Wen? Looks pretty fun! Wheedon has made some good, fun TV before so no reason it wont carry over here.
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May 15, 2013 10:40
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Jamesman posted:But Nick Fury already has those. He looks like he was attacked by someone with a large fork.
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Rasczak posted:He looks like he was attacked by someone with a large fork. So we finally have the identity of the one who scarred/blinded Nick Fury in that universe.
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May 15, 2013 14:47
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Question: can Marvel use characters owned by other studios for Movies in their TV show? Like the Mutants and Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four? Because that would be one way to introduce Scarlet Witch as a Mutant, and then roll her into the Avengers sequel where you make no mention of her origin...
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May 15, 2013 14:54
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AGirlWonder posted:
It's actually airing on ABC, Tuesdays at 8PM.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Question: can Marvel use characters owned by other studios for Movies in their TV show? Like the Mutants and Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four? Because that would be one way to introduce Scarlet Witch as a Mutant, and then roll her into the Avengers sequel where you make no mention of her origin...
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Question: can Marvel use characters owned by other studios for Movies in their TV show? Like the Mutants and Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four? Because that would be one way to introduce Scarlet Witch as a Mutant, and then roll her into the Avengers sequel where you make no mention of her origin... Actually, it was confirmed a few pages ago that the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver characters both have a special agreement that both Fox and Marvel Studios can use them in movies (and maybe this carries over to TV as well). So, yes, it's possible.
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And assuming the series does well, I'm sure that one or more of the agent characters will show up in Avengers 2 in a couple of years.
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Speaking about Scarlet Witch, here's a rumor about Saoirse Ronan being the actress in mind when writing the character for Avengers 2. Now, time for videos. Garfield vs Giamatti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZSrfxcG94 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBKmryB1vc4 Edit: Captain America 2. More videos and pictures here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk7ELSDdhJY The MSJ fucked around with this message at 15:16 on May 15, 2013 |
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The MSJ posted:Speaking about Scarlet Witch, here's a rumor about Saoirse Ronan being the actress in mind when writing the character for Avengers 2. That second ASM video was hilarious. No words needed just Spider-Man walking away and dancing in that mask with huge, goofy (in a good way!) eyes. I love it. Even if there were no words to that scene in the final cut (which there will be, obviously), I'd still love it.
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Jesus, that man's abs have abs. 
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Aatrek posted:And assuming the series does well, I'm sure that one or more of the agent characters will show up in Avengers 2 in a couple of years. I have a lot of faith in Whedon, and this show, but I don't get why they made a SHIELD TV Show, and didn't use Dum Dum, Sharon Carter or Fury. I mean, obviously Sam Jackson is going to be tough to get for a series, so that's fine, but it's not like Neil McDonough is busy, or just recast him. It's just weird to have a show about SHIELD, where we don't have any characters from the comics from SHIELD. I love Coulson, don't get me wrong, but when I think SHIELD, I think Dugan, Carter and Fury. (And to a lesser degree, that one-shot where Bruce Wayne was an Agent of SHIELD during the amalgam crossovers). I think the show is going to be fantastic, and I am nothing but anxious for it, but I can't help but wonder why he made an all new set of characters... Maybe they'll introduce some familiar characters down the road, and after HIMYM ends, we'll get
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I'd bet money on a Sam Jackson cameo either in the opening episode or the season finale.
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Comedy option. Sam Jackson asks for too much money and Marvel gets Morgan Freeman to play Nick Fury. First introduction is that famous panel of Fury on the rocket bike smashing through the Helicarrier hull guns blazing.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:I have a lot of faith in Whedon, and this show, but I don't get why they made a SHIELD TV Show, and didn't use Dum Dum, Sharon Carter or Fury. I mean, obviously Sam Jackson is going to be tough to get for a series, so that's fine, but it's not like Neil McDonough is busy, or just recast him. It's just weird to have a show about SHIELD, where we don't have any characters from the comics from SHIELD. I love Coulson, don't get me wrong, but when I think SHIELD, I think Dugan, Carter and Fury. (And to a lesser degree, that one-shot where Bruce Wayne was an Agent of SHIELD during the amalgam crossovers).
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achillesforever6 posted:Wouldn't Dum Dum be 80 or dead by now? Sorry not familiar with the character, but if that means more Neil McDonough then I can't see that as a bad thing. I think there are some characters, including Widow and Fury, that have some kind of serum or nanites or something that keeps them proper and young. Dum Dum is or was around in the last few years in the comics.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:I have a lot of faith in Whedon, and this show, but I don't get why they made a SHIELD TV Show, and didn't use Dum Dum, Sharon Carter or Fury. I mean, obviously Sam Jackson is going to be tough to get for a series, so that's fine, but it's not like Neil McDonough is busy, or just recast him. It's just weird to have a show about SHIELD, where we don't have any characters from the comics from SHIELD. I love Coulson, don't get me wrong, but when I think SHIELD, I think Dugan, Carter and Fury. (And to a lesser degree, that one-shot where Bruce Wayne was an Agent of SHIELD during the amalgam crossovers). If they brought back Dum Dum Dugan after featuring him in the 1940s they'd have to use the "Fury's aging serum" excuse, which dilutes the significance of Captain America's "Man out of time" schtick, just like it does in the comics. They're using Sharon Carter for Captain America 2. Samuel L. Jackson is way too expensive for a series. Dude is a huge box office draw and can easily demand Seinfeld and FRIENDS levels of cash.
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achillesforever6 posted:Wouldn't Dum Dum be 80 or dead by now? Sorry not familiar with the character, but if that means more Neil McDonough then I can't see that as a bad thing. Yeah. But in the Comics, he and Fury are roughly the same age, and would likely both have benefited from whatever age-reversing-plot-device was relevant for the current continuity in the books (I stopped reading years ago). Again, not even nitpicking, I'd just like to see him, Bowler Hat and all, on the new series. edit: mind the walrus posted:If they brought back Dum Dum Dugan after featuring him in the 1940s they'd have to use the "Fury's aging serum" excuse, which dilutes the significance of Captain America's "Man out of time" schtick, just like it does in the comics. I don't think Dum Dum's appearance would dilute Cap's Man out of Time thing, as Dum Dum would've hypothetically have lived through the last 60 years, and evolved along with it (ala Fury. They hinted he was super old in Iron Man 2, right?) Glad to hear they're using Sharon Carter! And yeah, I know Sam Jackson is too high profile to be a recurring character, just wishful thinking. Tuxedo Jack fucked around with this message at 17:06 on May 15, 2013 |
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Maybe we can have a short arc in the TV show where SHIELD helps Dum Dum capture Godzilla. And if they can afford or get away with it, they'll totally trow someone from the movie as a ratings boost for a mod-season break or season finale.
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Back to my initial question about the character rights: Marvel owns the TV rights (edit: NOT THE MOVIES, obviously) for Spider-Man, the X-Men, etc. And they just got the film rights back for Daredevil, Ghost Rider and Punisher (I think?) - so what's to prevent them from throwing their own version of Spidey or some of the Mutants into the SHIELD show, aside from brand dilution? Assuming they introduce a character from those licenses, for example, Northstar - and then they only use him on the TV show, and don't refer to him in the movies... That would be "ok" legally, right? Obviously, Marvel likely wouldn't introduce a huge character like Spidey or Scott Summers off the bat, but there's no reason they couldn't, down the line (if the show picked up considerable steam and the showrunners decided to go down that road). Right? Or am I missing something tricky about the inclusion of the licenses on film and the legal link between the continuity of the show and the movies?
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Back to my initial question about the character rights: The Sony/Marvel Spider-man deal prohibits them from doing so. Hell back a decade or so ago Marvel had to sue themselves over the Mutant X show.
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Rhyno posted:The Sony/Marvel Spider-man deal prohibits them from doing so. Hell back a decade or so ago Marvel had to sue themselves over the Mutant X show. Wasn't the most recent Spider-Man cartoon a Disney production, though? Or was it owned by Sony and just aired on Disney? And didn't he show up in the Avengers cartoon series as well?
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Rhyno posted:The Sony/Marvel Spider-man deal prohibits them from doing so. Hell back a decade or so ago Marvel had to sue themselves over the Mutant X show. Can you explain? The Sony/Marvel Spider-Man deal gives Sony the movie rights to Spider-Man and Marvel the TV rights (including animation). It seems like Marvel wouldn't want to use Spider-Man in a SHIELD property because it would promote the Sony movies rather than the Marvel movies, but where are you getting that it would be prohibited by the deal?
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Spectacular Spider-man was a popular Sony show that was canceled and then Disney came out with their own Spider-man show after they got the rights.
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Aatrek posted:It's actually airing on ABC, Tuesdays at 8PM. Really? Okay, that makes me a lot more hopeful. I still associate Whedon with the CW because of Buffy, so there's that. But ABC's much better. Clearly, I've been emotionally scarred by Smallville.
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