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Neddy Seagoon posted:The only part of Sleeping Dog's story I didn't like was how he goes from being barely-alive from brutal torture back to walking death machine in the span of minutes. I just thought that bit could've been done better as something like having him sneakily escape in his barely-alive state, have some time pass with him recovering in hospital, and use that as the setup for the final angry rampage of revenge! That part of the game was pretty heavy on retrospective, so hearing a bit of chatter from doctors about how many people had been dying (maybe by your hand), or sticking you in the room where Uncle Po was with some reminder of him or some such would have been pretty awesome.
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muscles like this? posted:So CoJ:Gunslinger is a pretty cool game. One thing that's neat is that the game has a dynamic narrator that says stuff based on what you do (kind of like Bastion.) Also since the game is done in the style of a story the main character is telling he messes with reality based on criticisms from his audience. I'm really diggin' it too, even though I only got to play around with it for a little bit. Also, the guns so far have some good sound behind them and that always gets me going.
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May 24, 2013 00:29
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Small piece of advice for anyone going for the Sleeping Dogs platinum - triad xp is actually quite a bit trickier than the others to max out, so it may be an idea to wear clothing that boosts it. I finished with most missions between 2.5 and 3 triangles of triad xp, and I was still half a bar away from maxing it out. Replaying missions to get tiny gains wasn't a lot of fun. Agreeing with all the positive reviews, great game all round. PS+ is fantastic.
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May 24, 2013 00:32
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I'm liking Gunslinger, too. It's not quite Bound in Blood and there are some rather minor features that I miss from BiB (Like the variable quality on weapons, shops, etc.) but it's a really cool game with a neat storytelling mechanic. The early area where you run across a stagecoach and get surrounded will probably be burned in my mind for a while because that's when I first realized what the game was going for with the whole narrator thing and I thought it was really cool: You slowly get surrounded by more and more enemies on the cliff faces above you, the narration starts talking about how retreat is your only option - you start to look around but can't see anywhere to retreat to, keep shooting a few guys, then the narration chimes in again to mention that you found an escape route, you turn around and the cliff face slides apart to reveal a small cave that you could slip in to. It's cooler in action than it sounds from my description.
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May 24, 2013 00:35
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The upgrades in Gunslinger are also really cool. At the start, it's just regular shooting dudes, but that just makes you appreciate it more when you're running around like a maniac with two six-shooters, then switch to a rifle in order to take a guy down with a slow-motion headshot. It's just very satisfying and fun.
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May 24, 2013 00:44
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I like to think that the narrator is really embellishing just how many guys are gunning for him just because he's telling his story to an audience. Gives a reason for why you're just shooting scores of dudes 
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May 24, 2013 01:25
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HampHamp posted:Small piece of advice for anyone going for the Sleeping Dogs platinum - triad xp is actually quite a bit trickier than the others to max out, so it may be an idea to wear clothing that boosts it. I finished with most missions between 2.5 and 3 triangles of triad xp, and I was still half a bar away from maxing it out. Replaying missions to get tiny gains wasn't a lot of fun. I found a good tip to grind triad xp. Walk up to a pedestrian and grab them then toss them with R2. They will get mad, try to hit you and you counter. You get XP for the counterattack.
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May 24, 2013 01:27
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Wamdoodle posted:I like to think that the narrator is really embellishing just how many guys are gunning for him just because he's telling his story to an audience. Gives a reason for why you're just shooting scores of dudes Oh, absolutely, the game is completely unrealistic, but rather than me going "Pssh, look at this trying too hard bullshit", I realize that I'm playing a story being told in a saloon by an old dude, and then I realize "Of COURSE I'd tell people that I dove out a window and shot five guys in the head before I'd even hit the ground".
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Blunt Force Trauma posted:I'm liking Gunslinger, too. It's not quite Bound in Blood and there are some rather minor features that I miss from BiB (Like the variable quality on weapons, shops, etc.) but it's a really cool game with a neat storytelling mechanic. The early area where you run across a stagecoach and get surrounded will probably be burned in my mind for a while because that's when I first realized what the game was going for with the whole narrator thing and I thought it was really cool: You slowly get surrounded by more and more enemies on the cliff faces above you, the narration starts talking about how retreat is your only option - you start to look around but can't see anywhere to retreat to, keep shooting a few guys, then the narration chimes in again to mention that you found an escape route, you turn around and the cliff face slides apart to reveal a small cave that you could slip in to. It's cooler in action than it sounds from my description. This actually sounds really awesome. Think ill give it a try
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May 24, 2013 01:46
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Oh man, I'm doing the mine level of Gunslinger and the whole bit where you go through the first entrance to the mine, fail and then he rewinds the story back to before you even go in to go a different way was so cool.
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How does Gunslinger perform on PS3? I just checked out a trailer and the game looks gorgeous, but all the trailers and promo material is for the Xbox 360 version which has me wondering if the PS3 version looks/runs worse?
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May 24, 2013 02:39
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MUFFlNS posted:How does Gunslinger perform on PS3? I just checked out a trailer and the game looks gorgeous, but all the trailers and promo material is for the Xbox 360 version which has me wondering if the PS3 version looks/runs worse? It performs just fine. There's a little wonky-ness in regards to transparencies with plants BUT playing CoJ:The Cartel on the 360 that game had the same problem.
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May 24, 2013 03:13
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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn now has a release date set for August 27th. I can't wait!  Regular version is $40. Collector's Ed. is $80. And oh my god, it has a lot of cool stuff I need.
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The Grimace posted:Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn now has a release date set for August 27th. I can't wait! Ya I'm not falling for that again, picked it up on PC when it first came out. I am waiting for a million good reviews, it to be cheap and with no monthly fee. So probably never.
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May 24, 2013 09:01
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One of the weirder points of Sleeping Dogs for me is that they chose a non-Cantonese-speaking actor for Wei Shen. The lead guy. Whose bio says he was chosen as such an important cop in America because he could speak Cantonese. In the end they got some Korean-American guy. Then they have the amazing James Hong, whose bio says he speaks both Cantonese and Mandarin, as Uncle Po and he breaks out neither. Even during his interaction with the Cantonese-only Mrs. Chu, he sticks to English. Obviously a real triad syndicate would be all Cantonese, with maybe Wu or Min among the old-timers and we have to shift most of the dialog to English for the American audience, which they pull of pretty convincingly. Winston's voice actor even takes a crack at Cantonese, but he's obviously not a native speaker. I really wonder why they had the main guy go all-English. Not even Firefly-style cursing. 
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May 24, 2013 09:55
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Haha, I was wondering about that. Koreans, Chinese, it's all the same to the mainstream American audience right? Why not throw some Japanese and Vietnamese voice actors in there while you're at it?
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May 24, 2013 09:57
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But it doesn't even matter since we don't see the actor  the only important part is that he can pull off the dialog (language) convincingly. It could be a white dude. Named Bloodnose, for example.
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May 24, 2013 09:59
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Region-locking makes me loving rage. Persona 4 Arena with ALL the DLC is right there for $28 and I can't get it. gently caress you, Atlus.
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May 24, 2013 11:22
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I know games like to do it but I found it really weird in Sleeping Dogs where they would slip in random Cantonese phrases in the middle of the English. AC2 did a similar thing. I played AC2 completely in Italian and every once in a while I would just see an Italian word, followed by a translation, show up in the subtitles and it looked very silly.
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May 24, 2013 12:17
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Bloodnose posted:But it doesn't even matter since we don't see the actor Wei's face is actually that of his voice actor, though.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:I know games like to do it but I found it really weird in Sleeping Dogs where they would slip in random Cantonese phrases in the middle of the English. AC2 did a similar thing. I played AC2 completely in Italian and every once in a while I would just see an Italian word, followed by a translation, show up in the subtitles and it looked very silly. I thought about mentioning that and kind of passed earlier, but yeah it bugs me when games do this. I know it would've hurt the popularity or accessibility or something if the game went all out and had everything in cantonese, but I really would've preferred it a bit more if they stuck to a language. Just stick to english or cantonese if that's what you're gonna do, most everything being in one with random bits of the other there to "spice it up" feels odd. I dunno, I'm one of those people who just really enjoys games that use the language of their setting. My immersion 
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Yardbomb posted:I thought about mentioning that and kind of passed earlier, but yeah it bugs me when games do this. I know it would've hurt the popularity or accessibility or something if the game went all out and had everything in cantonese, but I really would've preferred it a bit more if they stuck to a language. Just stick to english or cantonese if that's what you're gonna do, most everything being in one with random bits of the other there to "spice it up" feels odd.
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Stare-Out posted:The language quirks in the Assassin's Creed games are actually explained as glitches in the Animus' translation software. It's a cute justification, but I still never liked it because all too often it made the dialogue reek of bad fanfiction. "Why, Assassin-san, ohayou! You're looking very sugoi (ed. note: sugoi means cute) today!" except in a more poetic language.
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Stelas posted:It's a cute justification, but I still never liked it because all too often it made the dialogue reek of bad fanfiction.
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BreakAtmo posted:Region-locking makes me loving rage. Persona 4 Arena with ALL the DLC is right there for $28 and I can't get it. gently caress you, Atlus. Region-locking how? If it's just not available on your version of the store, you could always hit up someone in the game-share thread to grab it for you.
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Yardbomb posted:Region-locking how? If it's just not available on your version of the store, you could always hit up someone in the game-share thread to grab it for you. Persona 4 Arena is actively region-locked, as in it will not run on a console of a different region. Atlus apparently did this so that the Japanese version could be price-fixed high while still forcing Japanese people to buy it rather than the functionally identical US version. Europe got shafted in the crossfire thanks to a tremendously delayed localisation.
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Stelas posted:Persona 4 Arena is actively region-locked, as in it will not run on a console of a different region. Atlus apparently did this so that the Japanese version could be price-fixed high while still forcing Japanese people to buy it rather than the functionally identical US version. Europe got shafted in the crossfire thanks to a tremendously delayed localisation. Yeah, this. Persona 4 Arena is one of like two PS3 games that actually checks your hardware and refuses to work I'd the console isn't an American model. They also don't mention this at all on the purchase page, likely knowing that they can get extra sales from people who are technically breaking the EULA by making a foreign account and thus can't ask for a refund. Assholes.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:I know games like to do it but I found it really weird in Sleeping Dogs where they would slip in random Cantonese phrases in the middle of the English. AC2 did a similar thing. I played AC2 completely in Italian and every once in a while I would just see an Italian word, followed by a translation, show up in the subtitles and it looked very silly. I should try that sometime. That sounds really fun. I wonder if I can have Revelations in Arabic or whatever language they are supposed to speak in that game.
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I thought the voice acting was so good in Sleeping Dogs that it didn't bother me when people who obviously don't speak Cantonese (Winston) would try it. Wei Shen's VA in particular was just fantastic. As far as "Orientals are all the same!", well, games/tv/movies constantly cast British people as Americans and vice versa, so what's the big deal? 
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precision posted:As far as "Orientals are all the same!", well, games/tv/movies constantly cast British people as Americans and vice versa, so what's the big deal? Thaaaat's a whole hell of a can of worms opening. Outside of the offensive "Asians are all the same" statement itself, some asian peoples will be less than thrilled being equated to another group of asian peoples that they have bad history with. One that comes up once in a while is people equating the Chinese with the Japanese, which is hosed up for a few reasons, but as you can imagine doesn't exactly ring well with the people being fed that kind of stupid statement. I think I misread what you were saying though, because re-reading I'm not sure where I got the point for most of that from. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 18:26 on May 24, 2013 |
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May 24, 2013 18:20
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Odds are they auditioned for the role though.
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Liar Lyre posted:I should try that sometime. That sounds really fun. I wonder if I can have Revelations in Arabic or whatever language they are supposed to speak in that game. It was pretty rad, I recommend it highly.
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Aphrodite posted:Odds are they auditioned for the role though.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, I guess they probably had to make a choice between a good voice actor and a voice actor who can speak the language natively, and chose the former. Well, besides that I also mean that the Korean guy knew the role was Chinese when he auditioned too.
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I'm really digging the voice acting in Sleeping Dogs, based purely on liking the way the VAs sounded I guess. Related to that, I think the lip sync is really good. Weird thing to notice, but I was watching somebody talk and was like "wow, lip sync technology has come a long way from the random poo poo it was not too long ago" e. and I always switch games into their "native" voice setting if I can. Persona 3 thankfully had pretty good voice work, but normally in games like that, first thing I do is switch to Japanese because of how unbelievably dorky English VAs tend to sound in games like that. I really should've played AC2 in Italian, too. Maybe Brotherhood...
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I took a break from my Pinball Arcade addiction to actually play Demon's Souls.  Started with a hunter, bumbled my way through the palace and managed to take down Phalanx. I know I'm years late, but I'm hooked. Gotta go find the thread and the wiki...I've got Sleeping Dogs waiting, too, but DS is calling out to me.
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Static Rook posted:I took a break from my Pinball Arcade addiction to actually play Demon's Souls. Try reading as little as possible unless you have a specific question about the way a particular mechanic works. Demon's Souls is best played unspoiled.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Try reading as little as possible unless you have a specific question about the way a particular mechanic works. Demon's Souls is best played unspoiled. That's true to a point, but Demons Souls is kind of an obtuse game and part of the fun of the Souls series is engaging with the community and figuring stuff out/learning from those who went before you.
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