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Dan Didio posted:Because claiming that a movie has 'absolutely zero drama' based on a trailer's scant few glimpses at the plot and disregarding it entirely because of that is really stupid and doing stupid things is a bad idea. I will admit, my initial post was unclear. I will preface every post I make on the subject of The Wolverine with "This is my subjective opinion based on the pre-release materials (trailers, production stills, etc) and may or may not hold true when the final film is released" Will that make you happy?
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You could just stop posting dumb stuff instead.
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May 22, 2013 15:21
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jivjov posted:I will admit, my initial post was unclear. I will preface every post I make on the subject of The Wolverine with "This is my subjective opinion based on the pre-release materials (trailers, production stills, etc) and may or may not hold true when the final film is released" I'm aware it's your subjective opinion based on the trailer, you'll perhaps noticed I included a reference to this fact in my post. I think it's fine to have an opinion of a trailer and anticipate issues with a film in advance because of that, I think it's really stupid to declare something utterly without drama because of plot quibbles without having actually seen the plot. r.e. 'The Wolverine', I think the fact that they're embracing what's always been kind of a strange part of the character's history and attempting to do it some sort of justice is kind of cool. I was never big into the 'Wolverine in Japan' stuff in the comics, but it's a good choice for a story to adapt and some of the imagery looks interesting, albeit somewhat hokey. I'd like to see how stuff like a giant, metal samurai fighting Wolverine in a crazy laboratory plays out on screen. Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 15:52 on May 22, 2013 |
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May 22, 2013 15:33
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Hollis posted:It's kind of weird that their tying this in with Xmen last stand cause that film was not only not good but was made in 2006 which was 9 years ago. They're making a huge plot point of the film being him broken up over Jean's death but the movie it was in was 9 years ago. That doesn't make sense to me. The X-men films were always set in the "near future", so Wolverine being set only a few years after X3 isn't much of a leap.
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May 22, 2013 16:05
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I got the impression that he doesn't accept the offer and that little ambush in the garden is them surprise injecting him with the mortality serum or whatever. He didn't travel to Japan to become mortal, he travels because some crazy rich dude but a lot of effort into finding him and is promising a 'gift' and he doesn't exactly have anything else going on with his life at that moment.Hollis posted:made in 2006 which was 9 years ago. Good math there.
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May 22, 2013 17:25
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In actual comic news, instead of weird arguments, Ronan the Accuser is rumored to be the villain of Guardians of the Galaxy. There's also a bit in the article about Rhino, but it's not that interesting?
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May 22, 2013 19:29
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Ronan? Krees? Supreme Intelligence? He's a hero last I knew so perhaps this will be more complicated than just outright villain. Perhaps lead into Kree - Skrull war? Captain Marvel? EDIT: Oh. I guess I should have read the article which they already speculate on the same.
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May 22, 2013 19:46
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To be fair, being mortal and able to grow old is different than taking the vaccine and literally dying of metal poisoning minutes later.
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May 23, 2013 00:33
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He's like two hundred years old, would he even last long enough to get poisoning from the metal?
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May 23, 2013 00:45
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Travis343 posted:He's like two hundred years old, would he even last long enough to get poisoning from the metal? If someone had a mutation that kept them young and it was suddenly removed, I would think they would just start to age naturally from that point rather than instantly get cancer and melt Raiders of the Lost Ark style.
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May 23, 2013 02:35
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Buddington posted:If someone had a mutation that kept them young and it was suddenly removed, I would think they would just start to age naturally from that point rather than instantly get cancer and melt Raiders of the Lost Ark style. Last Crusade would have been a better reference, as the guy does actually age to death in that one.
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May 23, 2013 10:15
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So, uh, Quicksilver is going to be played by Even Peters(Never Back Down, American Horror Story) in Days of Future Past. https://twitter.com/BryanSinger/status/337643722953080832
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May 23, 2013 20:48
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omg chael crash posted:So, uh, Quicksilver is going to be played by Even Peters(Never Back Down, American Horror Story) in Days of Future Past. Ooooo, if there was intention to use Quicksilver and Wanda in the Avengers then I wonder if this was Fox going "Nyet! We first! Ours!"
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May 23, 2013 20:50
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It would be funny if we got two versions of Quicksilver, one in X-Men and one in Avengers.
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May 23, 2013 20:59
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Wonderful. Leave it to Fox to be petty about the dumbest poo poo. Obviously it worked out great for X-Men 3. And yes, I'm totally jumping the gun on this one.
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May 23, 2013 21:02
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It is clearly a spite move this far into filming DOFP
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May 23, 2013 21:12
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Officer Farva posted:Wonderful. Leave it to Fox to be petty about the dumbest poo poo. Obviously it worked out great for X-Men 3. And yes, I'm totally jumping the gun on this one. I'm not exactly the most informed about the timeline of actually creating a full length film, but didn't Whedon only drop hints about wanting to add Quicksilver and Wanda into Avengers 2 a couple of weeks ago? If Singer is actually casting him, wouldn't the writing/contract negotiations/etc have to have been ongoing well before that?
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May 23, 2013 21:15
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I'm really happy about that, mostly because I like Peters and want him to be successful.
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May 23, 2013 22:00
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Green Bean posted:I'm not exactly the most informed about the timeline of actually creating a full length film, but didn't Whedon only drop hints about wanting to add Quicksilver and Wanda into Avengers 2 a couple of weeks ago? If Singer is actually casting him, wouldn't the writing/contract negotiations/etc have to have been ongoing well before that? Maybe it's a bit part and Fox told Singer "Do this poo poo." and Singer got on the phone and was like "Hay, dude. How'd you like to make $1,000,000 for 3 days work? Come on down the street!" and the guy was all "Sounds great! Agent, sign the deed." and it's like a contract written on a paper napkin. "You are Quicksilver. Here is $1,000,000 for 3 days work. And all the donuts you desire in this timeframe."
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May 23, 2013 22:04
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I hope they come up with even a decent 'speed' effect for QS. I don't know if I've ever seen a superspeed person look normal. Understandably it is by definition unnatural but has anyone ever made it look good on screen?
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May 23, 2013 23:01
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Supreme Allah posted:I hope they come up with even a decent 'speed' effect for QS. I don't know if I've ever seen a superspeed person look normal. Understandably it is by definition unnatural but has anyone ever made it look good on screen? I like the really cheap effect where you just speed up the footage of the guy running. It looks really goofy in comic books anyway and hey, that's what someone running super fast would look like and I'm cool with that.
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May 23, 2013 23:08
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Supreme Allah posted:I hope they come up with even a decent 'speed' effect for QS. I don't know if I've ever seen a superspeed person look normal. Understandably it is by definition unnatural but has anyone ever made it look good on screen? The Matrix comes to mind. Also, I like the basketball scene in X2, but I know that's weird.
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May 23, 2013 23:09
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Supreme Allah posted:I hope they come up with even a decent 'speed' effect for QS. I don't know if I've ever seen a superspeed person look normal. Understandably it is by definition unnatural but has anyone ever made it look good on screen? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoLhLn9hVkE
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May 23, 2013 23:48
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Supreme Allah posted:I hope they come up with even a decent 'speed' effect for QS. I don't know if I've ever seen a superspeed person look normal. Understandably it is by definition unnatural but has anyone ever made it look good on screen? The glimpses you get of Superman dashing about in the Man of Steels trailer look solid - and it's plausible that Zack Snyder could figure out how to make the unbelievable look good - so hopefully he cracked that nut and people can just crib off him.
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May 23, 2013 23:59
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Officer Farva posted:Wonderful. Leave it to Fox to be petty about the dumbest poo poo. Obviously it worked out great for X-Men 3. And yes, I'm totally jumping the gun on this one. I'm with you. It's Fox and an X-Men movie, so nobody will tell me differently that this is a desperate attempt to bite on Marvel's coattails just because they can. If they really wanted to use Quicksilver (and Scarlet Witch), they had 5 movies to do more than an extremely brief cameo before Whedon started throwing names around.
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May 24, 2013 00:06
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Whoa, check out the landscape zoom effects at 1:19 and then check out Flash doing the same thing at 0:47. Just an inspired animation trick or were they familiar with the Wizard?
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May 24, 2013 01:29
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Jamesman posted:I'm with you. It's Fox and an X-Men movie, so nobody will tell me differently that this is a desperate attempt to bite on Marvel's coattails just because they can. Yeah but Evan Peters owns so it's okay.
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May 24, 2013 01:36
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omg chael crash posted:So, uh, Quicksilver is going to be played by Even Peters(Never Back Down, American Horror Story) in Days of Future Past. Singer deleted the tweet and reposted it without the Avengers hashtag. Wonderful.
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May 24, 2013 02:16
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Wolverine is the worst superhero because he stabs people and then the blood on his claws is drawn into his body when they retract. I don't care if he has a 'healing factor'; he may as well press feces into his knuckle wounds. He is gross and bad.
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May 24, 2013 03:05
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Wolverine is the worst superhero because he stabs people and then the blood on his claws is drawn into his body when they retract. Hey there fellow Wolverine disliking buddy. I'd rather have super speed be taken from more of a jumper perspective. Like that trick in Star Trek where Picard does his maneuver making the enemy think his ships are in two places at once. From the perspective of the ordinary person the individual "flashes" in and out of existance. At one point he is a frozen image on contact to a person and then next BAM he explodes in front of you after connecting with a punch. Like he's jumping through space - time. If you show it from the Flash's perspective then it's others are terribly slow while he's moving at regular speed. Otherwise from slower motion he's a blur of red and you can't make out his motions.
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May 24, 2013 03:33
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Lobok posted:Whoa, check out the landscape zoom effects at 1:19 and then check out Flash doing the same thing at 0:47. Just an inspired animation trick or were they familiar with the Wizard? An almost identical trick occurs in Yellow Submarine, which was released years before and animators would probably be more familiar with. The crescendo from "A Day in the Life" plays over it.
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Gatts posted:Hey there fellow Wolverine disliking buddy. @3min first thing I thought of http://youtu.be/EANZ8K2307c#t=3m
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May 24, 2013 03:48
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Here's some more info on the Quicksilver situation from Hitflixquote:The thing is, Bryan Singer has designed a sequence that he feels only works with Quicksilver, and Joss Whedon feels that there is a pressing reason for Quicksilver to show up in "The Avengers 2," and so what we're going to see is a legally-negotiated stand-off in which we'll get two totally different versions of one character. While they may act like things are amicable in public, HitFix sources say otherwise. 
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May 24, 2013 04:11
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See, this is why Marvel should really go with the messed up incest versions of those characters. That way someone in the movie can make a comments about them having "freak mutant babies" if they were to have kids, and Marvel can have the last laugh.
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May 24, 2013 04:51
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Wow, if it's true and Fox is using Quicksilver in one action scene just to be the first to use him and to stick it to Marvel that is some really petty poo poo. The fact that they're already filming and just cast the part a bit after it was rumored he's going to be in Avengers 2 is amazing.
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May 24, 2013 05:14
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Wolverine is the worst superhero because he stabs people and then the blood on his claws is drawn into his body when they retract. Wolverine is the best because he has Ninja + Samurai + CIA + Canadian CIA + WW2 Paratrooper + SHIELD + whatever else trainings, and he has 100 years of drunk street bawling experience, and he has an unbreakable skeleton (literally unbreakable, Hulk can't break it in 616), plus he bangs literally every hot chick and every bad guy respects the poo poo out of him. None of that was sarcasm, Wolverine is the best comic book super hero. How awesome is it that, despite all tropes and expectations, HE was carrying on Xavier's legacy because Cyclops was weak enough to succumb to Magneto's BS. Cyclops: "A BUNCH OF MUTANTS DIED!" Wolverine: "..yeah but all sorts of people die. We gotta maintain. Remember what Chuck used to..." Cyclops: "gently caress THAT I'M GONNA PISS AND CRY AND TURN HEEL." Wolverine: "..."   In conclusion, Wolverine is a land of contrast.
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May 24, 2013 05:59
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Quicksilver as already in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, you guys.
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Deadpool posted:Wow, if it's true and Fox is using Quicksilver in one action scene just to be the first to use him and to stick it to Marvel that is some really petty poo poo. The fact that they're already filming and just cast the part a bit after it was rumored he's going to be in Avengers 2 is amazing. It's such a good indication of a film's quality when the end product is partially the product of spite.
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TheJoker138 posted:Quicksilver as already in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, you guys. Wasn't he in Last Stand as well sort of?
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TheJoker138 posted:Quicksilver as already in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, you guys. We know, but that's like saying Scarlet Witch was already in X-Men 2 because she was listed on Stryker's computer (so was Quicksilver). It was just a cameo to fill the background with.
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