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Having fun messing around with a Zombies deck online. Built it for almost nothing (<20 tix, though I had the duals/fetches). Not sure how good it actually is, but I always enjoy grindy graveyard decks. 4x Blood Artist 4x Blood Scrivener 4x Bloodghast 4x Gravecrawler 4x Tidehollow Sculler 2x Geralf's Messenger 1x Cartel Aristocrat 4x Lingering Souls 3x Inquisition of Kozilek 3x Thoughtseize 3x Blasting Station 4x Faithless Looting 4x Marsh Flats 2x Verdant Catacombs 1x Sacred Foundry 3x Godless Shrine 3x Blood Crypt 5x Swamp 1x Plains 1x Mountain
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Sooooo about those Planeswalker changes for M14 onward... anybody want to take a stab at an all Jace, all the time deck? Seriously, you could stack 12 Jaces in there and just chain the poo poo out of him.
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May 23, 2013 15:40
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Durette posted:Sooooo about those Planeswalker changes for M14 onward... anybody want to take a stab at an all Jace, all the time deck?
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May 23, 2013 18:26
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Wadjamaloo posted:And this would accomplish what? A 4 mana brainstorm is not that good. Some faster ways to Pump Jace Beleren to 10 (6 cards espered), esper control 20 cards in main, cast Memory Adept for another 10... that's 36 cards epsered within 5 turns? Plus another 15 drawn naturally would be 41 cards out of the library by that point?
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May 23, 2013 22:26
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Durette posted:Some faster ways to No offense, you had it correct the first time by calling it mill. Esper is merely a specific color combination: UBW.
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May 23, 2013 22:47
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If you want to build a modern mill deck it doesn't really need to be Jaces. You could easily run glimpse the unthinkable, mind sculpt and snapcaster to do the same thing. Also, you can't mill emrakul so going against those kinds of decks means you lose unless you're packing a leyline of the void. 
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May 23, 2013 23:18
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Molybdenum posted:If you want to build a modern mill deck it doesn't really need to be Jaces. You could easily run glimpse the unthinkable, mind sculpt and snapcaster to do the same thing. Also, you can't mill emrakul so going against those kinds of decks means you lose unless you're packing a leyline of the void. Or Rest in Peace or Ravenous Trap.
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May 23, 2013 23:51
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AlphaKeny1 posted:No offense, you had it correct the first time by calling it mill. Esper is merely a specific color combination: UBW. Don't say that too loudly! They might hear you in standard!  Molybdenum posted:If you want to build a modern mill deck it doesn't really need to be Jaces. You could easily run glimpse the unthinkable, mind sculpt and snapcaster to do the same thing. Also, you can't mill emrakul so going against those kinds of decks means you lose unless you're packing a leyline of the void. It's more about thinking through the new rules than any desire to run a deck like that. That you could pull off a 30 card mill in one turn is just begging to be exploited. Of course, getting there is a different story.
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May 23, 2013 23:53
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All the modern legal jaces are terrible is the problem.
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May 24, 2013 02:33
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Mulletstation posted:All the modern legal jaces are terrible is the problem. Jace Beleren seems to get a little bit of time in control decks. Though just as a singleton it seems.
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May 24, 2013 02:36
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AlphaKeny1 posted:No offense, you had it correct the first time by calling it mill. Esper is merely a specific color combination: UBW. Yah, but it doesn't count as mill if it's done by the esper control deck in standard. You see, mill isn't tournament viable.
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May 24, 2013 05:35
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Birthing pod is really starting to get annoying to play against. I feel as if its starting to take a hold of the format as well
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Past Nastification posted:Birthing pod is really starting to get annoying to play against. I feel as if its starting to take a hold of the format as well 4x Pyroclasm, 4x Oblivion stone is a good way to counteract pod chains. I highly suggest trying out GR Urzatron.
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May 30, 2013 02:21
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Mulletstation posted:4x Pyroclasm, 4x Oblivion stone is a good way to counteract pod chains. I highly suggest trying out GR Urzatron. Relic of Progenitus can stop Melira Pod's combos too, or at the very least stall them until you get another one or an answer. Most pod lists only have one pridemage (or harmonic sliver) and one eternal witness, so after two artifact nukes, they're spent and you're golden. They can still try and beat you down the old fashioned way, but having wurmcoils tends to make it difficult for them. Oldsrocket_27 fucked around with this message at 03:19 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 03:17
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Oldsrocket_27 posted:Relic of Progenitus can stop Melira Pod's combos too, or at the very least stall them until you get another one or an answer. Most pod lists only have one pridemage (or harmonic sliver) and one eternal witness, so after two artifact nukes, they're spent and you're golden. They can still try and beat you down the old fashioned way, but having wurmcoils tends to make it difficult for them. Yeah 4 maindeck relics, as well as karn eating pod itself is a lot of maindeck hate for melira-pod. The only downside is the crippling weakness to infect.
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May 30, 2013 03:25
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Past Nastification posted:Birthing pod is really starting to get annoying to play against. I feel as if its starting to take a hold of the format as well I actually don't mind this at all. I play Splinter Twin, and it kinda seems the worst matchups (G/B/x at like 30% winrate) are kinda driven out due to their poor Pod matchups. The remaining matchups are mostly long/interactive enough to make playskill the deciding factor. Pity modern doesn't matter much right now.
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Mulletstation posted:4x Pyroclasm, 4x Oblivion stone is a good way to counteract pod chains. I highly suggest trying out GR Urzatron. Urza Tron in any color is terrible in my opinion. I hate hate hate Urza Tron, I don't know why but I can't stand it. I'd rather stick to trying to make Holy Jund work and losing.
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Jun 1, 2013 02:55
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Past Nastification posted:Urza Tron in any color is terrible in my opinion. I hate hate hate Urza Tron, I don't know why but I can't stand it. I'd rather stick to trying to make Holy Jund work and losing. Show us on the doll where Karn touched you.
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Star Man posted:Show us on the doll where Karn touched you. Its the ability to get a turn 3 Coil that makes me cry at night
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I hate Urza Tron because they won't allow me to play with my Cloudposts instead.
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Is tokens the only viable B/W deck option? I've been meaning to get into modern because I really like the idea of eternal formats, and as much as I'd love to get into Vintage my cards only really go back to Ice Age. Anyways, I have a B/W deck based mainly around lifelink I use in my game group/at the LGS' casual night that looks like this: Mainboard 2 Angel of Despair 2 Deathbringer Liege 2 Debtors' Knell 4 Divinity of Pride 4 Restless Apparition 4 Godless Shrine 4 Isolated Chapel 4 Mortify 4 Pillory of the Sleepless 6 Plains 2 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad 10 Swamp 4 Unmake 4 Vampire Nighthawk 4 Voracious Hatchling Sideboard (not so much a sideboard, but placeholder cards that got rotated out as I filled the deck out) 2 Edge of the Divinity 1 Felidar Sovereign 2 Immortal Servitude 2 Zealous Persecution 2 Necromancers Covenant 2 Exquisite Blood 2 Elixir of Immortality 2 Beckon Apparition In the situations I play it, it performs pretty well and I have a lot of fun with it, it's probably one of my favourites. But fun doesn't equal tournament success, I suck at following meta, could I bite the bullet and grab 4 Marsh Flats and some Fetid Heaths (maybe replace Unmake with Path to Exile) and have a half way playable deck? Or would it just totally suck in every way. (Leaning towards the latter)
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Hellequin posted:Is tokens the only viable B/W deck option? I've been meaning to get into modern because I really like the idea of eternal formats, and as much as I'd love to get into Vintage my cards only really go back to Ice Age. I quite like B/W Martyr-Proc (although its basically just splashing for things like Orzhov Charm and Vizkopa Guildmage, so you don't weaken the martyr's effect), and I've seen a few people try to splash black in Soul Sisters. I think Jackie Lee ran B/W Martyr-Proc back in San Diego, if you can find her list.
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So, if you had a friend who has some $$ and is willing to buy into modern, what would you suggest? Melira pod? Affinity? BUG Infect?
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jassi007 posted:So, if you had a friend who has some $$ and is willing to buy into modern, what would you suggest? Melira pod? Affinity? BUG Infect? I would suggest a bunch of playtesting to see what archetype said friend likes. It's what I did before I dropped any cash monies on the format. Probably not the answer you were looking for?
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Hungry posted:I would suggest a bunch of playtesting to see what archetype said friend likes. It's what I did before I dropped any cash monies on the format. Do this. Figuring out what he enjoys playing is very important before dropping $ on a deck. That being said, Melira Pod and Infect are pretty cheap to build and so is Robots.
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ScarletBrother posted:and so is Robots. Though probably $40 more than a couple of weeks ago now Mox Opal has gone up. Blinkmoth Nexus and Arcbound Ravager may become cheaper though, that just leaves Glimmervoid as the money card in there, and it may be reprinted yet. If you have group willing to play test with loan cards or proxies that's probably the way.
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jassi007 posted:So, if you had a friend who has some $$ and is willing to buy into modern, what would you suggest? Melira pod? Affinity? BUG Infect? If you're talking buckoos of bucks, Jund. It gets you most of the staples of the format, so you can switch decks at will. If you're not talking a grand, I'd look at Scapeshift. ChewyLSB had some great posts in this thread about the deck. Otherwise, Melira or Jiki Pod seem like good options.
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Melira Pod leans on the expensive side now with Voice (at current prices) tech. I was pleased that RG Tron was fairly cheap cheap to buy, expensive sideboard included.
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AnacondaHL posted:Melira Pod leans on the expensive side now with Voice (at current prices) tech. I was pleased that RG Tron was fairly cheap cheap to buy, expensive sideboard included. Voice is -sold out- on SCG at $50 a pop / $100 foil  That can't be sustainable.. can it?
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Niton posted:Voice is -sold out- on SCG at $50 a pop / $100 foil Absolutely not, although it is a very great 2 drop. Expect it to maybe peak at around 60 and then begin to decline later.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Though probably $40 more than a couple of weeks ago now Mox Opal has gone up. eSporks fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jun 1, 2013 |
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Wadjamaloo posted:Do you think this is stable, or is it just hype over the new legend rule? I have a foil Russian one I'd like to offload for a bunch. I'm not the best for long-term speculation, but I don't think I see it going higher unless the new rules turn out to be even better than expected for it. Plus as far as I know it's only used in Affinity/Robots where a lot of people already fed spare Opals to Ravagers. I think it's more likely to go down than up.
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What is "Robots"? I thought that was just a colloquial name for Affinity.
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Tharizdun posted:What is "Robots"? I thought that was just a colloquial name for Affinity. Robots is neo-Affinity, really. It has less reliance on the actual Affinity mechanic, but plays very similarly with a bunch of low-cost artifacts spearheading a quick kill.
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Yeah, if there's a distinction I don't know what it is. I wonder how long it will be until something is printed to change what gets played in the archetype? A decent artifact may show up from time to time, but you seem to need an artifact set for creatures. Guess Steel Overseer is from a Core Set. Edit: yeah, I guess it's an acknowledgement that it doesn’t actually use Affinity any more.
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Most people will understand what you're talking about when you say "Affinity" in the context of Modern decks, but some folks prefer "Robots" to be more precise. It's a little bit pedantic to me but it doesn't really hurt anything. 
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"Affinity" implies some focus on the Affinity mechanic. "Robots" means massacres by robots. 
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Deck: Budget Jund     //Main 4 Deathrite Shaman 4 Huntmaster of the Fells 2 Kitchen Finks 3 Loxodon Smiter 3 Obstinate Baloth 2 Thragtusk 2 Thrun, the Last Troll 4 Lightning Bolt 2 Putrefy 1 Terminate 2 Swamp 2 Dragonskull Summit 2 Blood Crypt 2 Forest 2 Godless Shrine 2 Mountain 2 Overgrown Tomb 1 Plains 2 Stomping Ground 1 Temple Garden 2 Treetop Village 4 Verdant Catacombs 3 Harmonize 2 Inquisition of Kozilek 2 Lingering Souls  Display deck statisticsThe budget Holy Jund I'm building if there are any cheap alterations to the creatures or mana base feedback would be much appreciated. I can't afford more fetches, Tarmygofs, Liliana, or Bobs. But it't not like I'm going to a GP or anything I just want this deck to function for casual play against my friends or at FNM
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Past Nastification posted:Deck: Budget Jund Consider trying to find a home for Putrid leeches and bloodhall oozes. I have a budget jund deck on MTGO that uses them and turn one Deathrite into turn two bloodhall isn't goyf good but it isn't bad either.
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I won a GPT with my Wafo-Tapa control deck yesterday. This list to be specific It was a whopping 8 players so it was just a single elim go around. Round 1 - Affinity. I was pretty sure I had the byes in the bag, this was one of the few other competent players at the event. Round 2 - Goblin tribal. See what I mean I was scooped in but the last round would have been against RG tron, which has a possibility of being a rough matchup but I think I would have been able to take it down.
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