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burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

YF-23 posted:

I preordered the xXx-TREME edition and the voucher worked for me, so there's something off. Maybe the voucher was validated on a cancelled purchase or something?

That GMG 20% off code iirc only works on one item per cart. So if you buy EUIV and EUIV XXXTREME in one cart, the code only works on one of them. But if you buy EUIV with the code, and then buy the XXXTREME edition in a separate purchase, the code works on both.

Only problem I can think of that would prevent the code from working.

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TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I'm the USA and had no problems buying the extreme edition by itself with the voucher. I had also previously used the voucher to get a discount off The Old Gods.

Boar It
Jul 29, 2011

Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty
I saw some guy talking about how he wanted his family to survive in CK2 so that he can transfer the save to EUIII once he hits a certain year. Is this really possible or was he just "pretending" to continue on the same family or something. Since it would've been awesome to be able to continue between games but seems rather impossible. There ought to be a million bugs.

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

Torabi posted:

I saw some guy talking about how he wanted his family to survive in CK2 so that he can transfer the save to EUIII once he hits a certain year. Is this really possible or was he just "pretending" to continue on the same family or something. Since it would've been awesome to be able to continue between games but seems rather impossible. There ought to be a million bugs.

It requires extensive modding to continue in the next game, you basically have to create a custom scenario of the world as it exists in your save.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Torabi posted:

I saw some guy talking about how he wanted his family to survive in CK2 so that he can transfer the save to EUIII once he hits a certain year. Is this really possible or was he just "pretending" to continue on the same family or something. Since it would've been awesome to be able to continue between games but seems rather impossible. There ought to be a million bugs.

There's an unofficial CK2 to EU3 converter, and there will be an official one for EU4.

Boar It
Jul 29, 2011

Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty

TOOT BOOT posted:

There's an unofficial CK2 to EU3 converter, and there will be an official one for EU4.

That's awesome. I recently got started with CK2 so it would be very nice to then continue in EU4 if I eventually get it. Assuming I even manage to survive long enough in CK2.

Kersch
Aug 22, 2004
I like this internet
Is the New Nations Mod pretty much considered to be a must-have thing for Victoria 2, or does it make any changes that would give someone cause to prefer vanilla over it?

beefart
Jul 5, 2007

IT'S ON THE HOUSE OF AMON
~grandmaaaaaaa~

Kersch posted:

Is the New Nations Mod pretty much considered to be a must-have thing for Victoria 2, or does it make any changes that would give someone cause to prefer vanilla over it?

Came to ask this exact same question except I was also wondering if there are any mods that play well with NNM that add to the experience?

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

Kersch posted:

Is the New Nations Mod pretty much considered to be a must-have thing for Victoria 2, or does it make any changes that would give someone cause to prefer vanilla over it?

I don't play Victoria Boogaloo myself, but NNM seems to be fairly popular and have a solid reputation.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Kersch posted:

Is the New Nations Mod pretty much considered to be a must-have thing for Victoria 2, or does it make any changes that would give someone cause to prefer vanilla over it?

NNM is considered a good mod precisely because it doesn't really change things up too much: It adds a billion additional releasable countries and a bunch of political events such as unions and empires and whatnot, but doesn't really touch game mechanics, so you don't have to re-learn a game that's already hard enough to learn as it is.

Our very own The Imperialist Adventures of Srbja & Friends is a really good mod, I've discovered lately, for much the same reason. You don't have (as many/as difficult to take down) massively monolithic powers like the UK or the US anymore.

Divergences used to be a good mod too, but then the guy behind it stopped releasing a "vanilla" version and tied it inextricably to APD's smorgasbord of mechanics/balance changes.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

TOOT BOOT posted:

There's an unofficial CK2 to EU3 converter, and there will be an official one for EU4.

Wait, when was an official converter confirmed? I can't find anything online.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

Wait, when was an official converter confirmed? I can't find anything online.

The EU4 official site http://www.europauniversalis4.com/buy lists 2 mystery DLCs, and then I think someone lifted this picture from Gamersgate's servers or something:

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:

The EU4 official site http://www.europauniversalis4.com/buy lists 2 mystery DLCs, and then I think someone lifted this picture from Gamersgate's servers or something:


Nice, that's promising. I've seen stuff like this faked before, though, so I'm going to stay cautiously optimistic for now. That's awesome news if true, though!

Walliard
Dec 29, 2010

Oppan Windfall Style
I'm pretty sure they mentioned the save converter in one of the first developer videos/diaries for EU4.

Kersch
Aug 22, 2004
I like this internet

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

Nice, that's promising. I've seen stuff like this faked before, though, so I'm going to stay cautiously optimistic for now. That's awesome news if true, though!

I found another one

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

Walliard posted:

I'm pretty sure they mentioned the save converter in one of the first developer videos/diaries for EU4.

Johan (I think) mentioned that it's something he's always wanted to do, but nothing more concrete than that.

Kersch posted:

I found another one


You laugh, but I would seriously buy a dog version of Twilight Invasion :colbert:

Only if I could play as Dog Empire, though.

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013


Paradox, take my money now.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Kersch posted:

I found another one


EUIV confirmed launch title for XBone.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
So what would happen if I sent my army to chill in my Polish and Baltic puppets and let Militant Socialists take over Germany?

Would it be really bad for my country overall or would it just force a government change?

James The 1st
Feb 23, 2013

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

Wait, when was an official converter confirmed? I can't find anything online.
It's all speculation at this point, nothing has been officially announced.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Chief Savage Man posted:

So what would happen if I sent my army to chill in my Polish and Baltic puppets and let Militant Socialists take over Germany?

Would it be really bad for my country overall or would it just force a government change?

All your puppets would break free and you'd lose all your spheres.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Kersch posted:

I found another one


Europa Universalis IV: Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War

Kersch posted:

Is the New Nations Mod pretty much considered to be a must-have thing for Victoria 2, or does it make any changes that would give someone cause to prefer vanilla over it?

There are a couple of WTF changes I saw in NNM like until the latest version, the Metis Confederacy was removed, the Carlist civil war never seems to end which is kinda realistic but annoying as all hell and Carlist Spain has a separate tag from regular Spain which is annoying as all hell (it's pretty good about not having a situation with two Spains, but still really dumb to see the same nation have two tags to represent basically the same nation but with a different monarch at the head), the Siberian Republic is an uncivilized Russian nation (yes I know it is there to represent the Siberian Republic during the Russian Civil war, not an autonomous Siberian state but 1) there is no Siberian nation in the game other than the SR which is just annoying on principle, and 2) the Siberian Republic doesn't even accept Siberians), Alaska seems to be run by Protestant Russians, and others. As you can probably tell, most of my problems with NNM are mostly small problems that only affect certain specific nations, but from time to time you'll see something that makes you scratch your head.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

uPen posted:

All your puppets would break free and you'd lose all your spheres.

Welp, time to blast some rebels.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


uPen posted:

All your puppets would break free and you'd lose all your spheres.

Only if you're not already a democracy, though.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

ZearothK posted:

Only if you're not already a democracy, though.

Can you clarify this? I'm HM's Government now with every political reform passed, would I lose my dear puppets?

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE DINOSAURS, PARADOX

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Chief Savage Man posted:

Can you clarify this? I'm HM's Government now with every political reform passed, would I lose my dear puppets?

Yes, because it'd turn you into a democracy.

You don't lose your sphere or puppets to Jacobin rebels if you are an Absolute Monarchy, as that just forces you into HM's Government, but from there the only direction they could take is completely toppling the regime.

Likewise, if reactionaries coup an Absolute Monarchy they turn into a Presidential Dictatorship, or turn a Presidential Dictatorship into an Absolute Monarchy, amusingly enough.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
I wouldn't really mind losing Poland since it was handed to me but I went through a ton of work to get the United Baltic Provinces. What is another good way to get socialists elected?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Ofaloaf posted:

I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE DINOSAURS, PARADOX



This needs to happen.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008
EUIV: Rise of the Skeletons.

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

Mister Adequate posted:

This needs to happen.

Next April 1st, release a standard patch to address whatever bugs may be floating around at the time. Also change all the portraits to dinosaurs, only to patch them away the next day. Never mention the portrait changes in any patchlog or official posts.

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Alikchi posted:

All I want for Christmas is the Rota system.

I remember the devs mentioned a while back that the rota system was both too complicated & too questionably historical for them to implement. That was before "two more years of CK2 DLC", though, so... anything is possible!

ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos
I have no idea what I did but suddenly this happened.

I wasn't even trying to influence these nations. What the gently caress did I do and how can I do it again?

Sio
Jan 20, 2007

better red than dead

sparatuvs posted:

I have no idea what I did but suddenly this happened.

I wasn't even trying to influence these nations. What the gently caress did I do and how can I do it again?

Pretty sure you very slowly passively build influence with nations that you have positive relations with -- if you never interact with them otherwise, you'll end up with a whole bunch hitting 50 influence at the same time.

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012
Generally you'll see countries you border first, but since you're bordering the USA and Britain, you weren't influencing any neighbors.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

PleasingFungus posted:

I remember the devs mentioned a while back that the rota system was both too complicated & too questionably historical for them to implement. That was before "two more years of CK2 DLC", though, so... anything is possible!

Here's hoping in that 2 years of DLC we may still see fully moddable succession laws, or at least a bundle of ahistorical succession laws for fun/mods. I really want to be able to create new laws like female biased succession, or succession by combat where the game compares the martial of my heirs and the best one succeeds my old character and the others die, etc. I know it's kinda a problem where users can mod in succession laws that are supposed to be unique to certain DLCs so I can understand keeping the laws hardcoded, but I would pay a good $3-4 on a DLC that just adds in a bunch of succession laws that aren't based on anything in history and are just there for whoever wants them.

Rannos22
Mar 30, 2011

Everything's the same as it always is.

DrProsek posted:

succession by combat where the game compares the martial of my heirs and the best one succeeds my old character and the others die

This but add in a tournament with you and all your vassals where the winner gets the realm's primary title.
Might makes right (to rule) :black101:

LordGugs
Oct 16, 2012
Thanks everyone for the help! I ended up playing as Republic China and stopped after my ally Vietnam somehow annexed Russia in the war we were fighting, seriously there are some ai things that drive me nuts like events that cause territory to be taken from you and you cant take them back AHHH. (PSA event after I took over the USA with the help of Canada)

Kavak posted:

You've hit the nail on the head. There's no way outside of keeping the United States split up (Or starting it off that way) to prevent it from reaching hegemonic levels of power, but they're trying their damnedest. If they want a world where the United States isn't dominant, why not just drop its initial IC down to Germany's level to represent the upheaval the world's gone through?

As for the CSA thing, I have the sinking feeling in my gut it's merely an issue of country tags. The Combined Syndicates uses the CSA tag and the AUS uses the TEX tag, and they may be trying to avoid confusion. That, and the fact that they don't have a single American on the dev team.

I really don't understand why they wouldn't do an "American Warlord Era" type thing rather than the civil war that the game has, but then again I know how mods for Darkest Hour work so...It also bugs me every time that the AUS's capital is Atlanta! If the AUS win they usually don't do dick, They should have events where they try to take over all of america or something crazy. Are they still working on this mod btw?

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


LordGugs posted:

Thanks everyone for the help! I ended up playing as Republic China and stopped after my ally Vietnam somehow annexed Russia in the war we were fighting, seriously there are some ai things that drive me nuts like events that cause territory to be taken from you and you cant take them back AHHH. (PSA event after I took over the USA with the help of Canada)

I really don't understand why they wouldn't do an "American Warlord Era" type thing rather than the civil war that the game has, but then again I know how mods for Darkest Hour work so...It also bugs me every time that the AUS's capital is Atlanta! If the AUS win they usually don't do dick, They should have events where they try to take over all of america or something crazy. Are they still working on this mod btw?

They definitely are, just not the US at the moment. The best option would probably be someone experienced with American history to offer their services to them and redesign the whole thing into something that makes sense.

As for AI annexations, I've always found that to be a problem if Austria-Hungary collapses into civil war- the post-war borders never make a lick of sense. The AI is supposed to transfer cored or claimed territory to its allies, so maybe there should be an event where Poland, Romania, and maybe Serbia all team-up temporarily to seize their targets.

Kavak fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Jun 5, 2013

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canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Pre-order trailer is up

Seems release date was known, whoops.

canepazzo fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Jun 5, 2013

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