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1st AD posted:The 5Dmk2 does NOT have better video than the 6D. Though everything else about it is a lot better, especially the construction and how it feels in your hand. The 6D also has built-in wireless control, even though it was flaky as hell to use (with the Android app at least). I've been eyeballing a switch to Nikon ever since the first D600 rumors surfaced, but I chickened out on dropping 1.6 kilo bucks on a body and having to start over on everything else. So I bought a 5Dmk1 heh.
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1st AD posted:The 5Dmk2 does NOT have better video than the 6D. Though everything else about it is a lot better, especially the construction and how it feels in your hand. The 6D also has built-in wireless control, even though it was flaky as hell to use (with the Android app at least). The sensor in the 5d2 is pretty inferior compared to the 6D's sensor.
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Jun 18, 2013 18:43
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Kaninrail posted:The sensor in the 5d2 is pretty inferior compared to the 6D's sensor. Well yeah, canon made it. What do you expect.
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I guess this discussion is what I want to hear. I LOVE my 40D in may ways .. pretty much all but IQ and ISO performance (for the most part). The fit is perfect for my hand, the materials feel good as does the heft. The controls .. oh my the controls I do like them (never really use the joystick much, so that isn't a big thing), a friend recently bought a T2i and I just can't imagine not having the wheel on the back. Is the 6D the best route to go, or is the 5Dmkii going to deliver better? I know the sensor in the 6D is super good at high ISO .. pls send help Edit : Also Nikon just isn't going to happen. I have enough lenses and friends using Canon that I realllly don't want to switch. I'm sure Nikon makes awesome stuff, I just ain't made of megabucks (in the sense that I have to rebuild my lens collection). mAlfunkti0n fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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Jun 18, 2013 19:51
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How is the Rokinon 8mm f/3.5 HD fisheye lens? It's on sale for 225 USD. I've never used fish eye before. It is gimmicky or useful? I tend to shoot more landscapes.
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--edit: There's EOS 3D rumors going around yet again, because some idiot supposedly wore a camera strap saying 3D. Which made me think, are there any informations about Canon doing anything in the direction of SLT and/or mirrorless DSLR-sized cameras? Because I tried the Sony A99 and the EVF is  mAlfunkti0n posted:Is the 6D the best route to go, or is the 5Dmkii going to deliver better? I know the sensor in the 6D is super good at high ISO .. It's smaller and lighter (dimensions are roughly the same as the 60D), if you care about that. GPS is built-in, but a power hog. Wifi is also built-in, interesting for remote shooting via your smartphone or your laptop with EOS Utility. You can access the camera storage via DLNA over Wifi, but works only for JPEGs. Go with the 6D, unless you're really strapped for cash or for some reason need to shoot with flash at very high shutter speed. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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Jun 18, 2013 20:12
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Combat Pretzel posted:--edit: There's EOS 3D rumors going around yet again, because some idiot supposedly wore a camera strap saying 3D. Which made me think, are there any informations about Canon doing anything in the direction of SLT and/or mirrorless DSLR-sized cameras? Because I tried the Sony A99 and the EVF is The 6D it is then.
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Jun 18, 2013 20:25
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Combat Pretzel posted:--edit: There's EOS 3D rumors going around yet again, because some idiot supposedly wore a camera strap saying 3D. I know if I was secretly testing a new product in public, the first thing I would do is produce a neck strap with the model number emblazoned across it.
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Jun 19, 2013 02:29
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Canon generally goes out of their way to disguise lenses and bodies that are being tested so as not to attract attention. There's no way they gave someone a camera to test with a "EOS 3D" strap.
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Combat Pretzel posted:--edit: There's EOS 3D rumors going around yet again, because some idiot supposedly wore a camera strap saying 3D. Which made me think, are there any informations about Canon doing anything in the direction of SLT and/or mirrorless DSLR-sized cameras? Because I tried the Sony A99 and the EVF is The WiFi with the 6D, in the previous pages, has been mentioned to kill networks and was terrible software. If you're sharing or on another network, something to keep in mind: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3548773&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=15#post416522122 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3548773&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=15#post416523938 edit: Reading these two posts, it sounds like the "listener" for the 6D transfer is causing a DDoS of sorts. But I can't confirm without testing it myself. geeves fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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Jun 19, 2013 02:35
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Yeah I'm pretty shocked at how buggy it is. The GoPro WiFi is waaaaay more stable and won't gently caress over your network.
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geeves posted:The WiFi with the 6D, in the previous pages, has been mentioned to kill networks and was terrible software. This is only if you use the Canon proprietary software. Connecting it to my network, my computer then sees it as if it was plugged into USB and I can offload files as normal, albeit a little slowly. The software is a piece of poo poo, but the wifi remains perfectly functional.
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GoldenNugget posted:How is the Rokinon 8mm f/3.5 HD fisheye lens? It's on sale for 225 USD. I've never used fish eye before. It is gimmicky or useful? I tend to shoot more landscapes. Do you have a full frame or a crop sensor? If you have a full frame, DO NOT buy the older Samyang/Rokinon/Bower 8mm fisheye with the non-removable hood. The hood is designed for crop bodied cameras, and it obscures the circular vignette on a full frame. People were modifying them by removing the hood with a Dremel tool, so Samyang put out a new version with a detachable hood. I've got one and I love it on my 6D, but it's really only good for certain kinds of shots. A lot of retailers are trying to unload the old fixed-hood designs, so it's something to be wary of. As far as I know, the old ones had a gold band, and the new ones have a red band. Here are 2 shots I took with it at an outdoor concert last week:   I've also used it in some timelapse stuff (see 1:00 and 1:50): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6LkVmj8qYM (entire thing) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJWZAIs1HJE It's a great lens, and a lot of fun for certain kinds of shots (like whole sky shots, dog's noses for a distorted perspective, etc), but really not too useful. I've seen some people discuss ways to correct the distortion on the lens, but I personally think they're missing the point of a fisheye. The ridiculous perspective is part of the reason why you would use one. I may keep it because it's so cheap, but it's definitely the lens I use the least. Edit: need learn English Inf fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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Jun 19, 2013 05:44
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geeves posted:edit: Reading these two posts, it sounds like the "listener" for the 6D transfer is causing a DDoS of sorts. But I can't confirm without testing it myself.
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Jun 19, 2013 15:39
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evil_bunnY posted:Japanese manufacturer can't code its way out of a wet paperbag? SURELY YOU JEST haha it's so true. Even Japanese software companies have difficulty producing functional software.
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Jun 19, 2013 15:57
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ShotgunWillie posted:This is only if you use the Canon proprietary software. Connecting it to my network, my computer then sees it as if it was plugged into USB and I can offload files as normal, albeit a little slowly. The software is a piece of poo poo, but the wifi remains perfectly functional. Thanks! Added to the OP geeves fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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Jun 19, 2013 16:22
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geeves posted:edit: Reading these two posts, it sounds like the "listener" for the 6D transfer is causing a DDoS of sorts. But I can't confirm without testing it myself. Maybe this is also why the WiFi destroys your battery life, whereas something like an iPhone has no problem. Constantly flooding the network with "HAY GUYS I'M HERE LET'S TRANSFER SOME PICS!!! HAY GUYS I'M HERE LET'S TRANSFER SOME PICS!!! HAY GUYS I'M HERE LET'S TRANSFER SOME PICS!!!" etc
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Jun 19, 2013 16:25
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Inf posted:Maybe this is also why the WiFi destroys your battery life, whereas something like an iPhone has no problem. Constantly flooding the network with "HAY GUYS I'M HERE LET'S TRANSFER SOME PICS!!! HAY GUYS I'M HERE LET'S TRANSFER SOME PICS!!! HAY GUYS I'M HERE LET'S TRANSFER SOME PICS!!!" etc It's a party!
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Jun 19, 2013 16:50
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Inf posted:Maybe this is also why the WiFi destroys your battery life, whereas something like an iPhone has no problem. Constantly flooding the network with "HAY GUYS I'M HERE LET'S TRANSFER SOME PICS!!! HAY GUYS I'M HERE LET'S TRANSFER SOME PICS!!! HAY GUYS I'M HERE LET'S TRANSFER SOME PICS!!!" etc It's the software on the computer causing the problem - it destroyed my network while wifi was disabled on the camera
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Jun 19, 2013 17:12
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Mightaswell posted:haha it's so true. Even Japanese software companies have difficulty producing functional software. This is true for every company regardless of nationality. Bad code isn't dependent on skin color.  I could probably count the number of organizations that consistently produce quality software on one hand. And even the ones I could name have had crippling bugs on a few occasions.
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xzzy posted:This is true for every company regardless of nationality. Bad code isn't dependent on skin color. Yeah, I wouldn't attribute that back to Canon. They however, are using a terrible protocol (UPNP) to help lazy people just make things work. So, they can be slapped on the wrist as well.
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xzzy posted:This is true for every company regardless of nationality. Bad code isn't dependent on skin color. Sorry that you felt the need to add the skin color comment, but what I am referring to is the well known phenomenon of Japan, and Asia in general, being behind the west in the software and security industries.
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Goddamn dude, you should rewind a little bit and read what you're typing.
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Seamonster posted:Both 35mm lenses you mention are really good. The Sigma in particular really sticks it to the 35mm L but if you don't absolutely need autofocus then saving some $$ going with the Samyang won't disappoint either. As much as I love the feel of the Rokiyang, I think I'd regret not having autofocus at that focal length since it would be replacing my walkaround lens (17-40L). Once I sell the 17-40 my lens kit, other than weird or adapted stuff I never use, will be:
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woot fatigue posted:As much as I love the feel of the Rokiyang, I think I'd regret not having autofocus at that focal length since it would be replacing my walkaround lens (17-40L). Once I sell the 17-40 my lens kit, other than weird or adapted stuff I never use, will be: gently caress autofocus, buy a Takumar 35/3.5, the king of 35s.
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Jun 19, 2013 20:14
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This is almost as good as the racist against black people HP facial recognition software
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Mr. Despair posted:gently caress autofocus, buy a Takumar 35/3.5, the king of 35s. Maybe I'm just an ignorant noob, but 3.5 doesn't seem particularly fast and isn't that the whole point of primes?
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Jun 19, 2013 20:33
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Seamonster posted:Maybe I'm just an ignorant noob, but 3.5 doesn't seem particularly fast and isn't that the whole point of primes? It's hella sharp and magical and perfect.
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Seamonster posted:Maybe I'm just an ignorant noob, but 3.5 doesn't seem particularly fast and isn't that the whole point of primes? Another point of primes, which happens to be the most important to me, is that primes are less complicated and easier to make free of distortions, aberrations, and maximize sharpness.
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woot fatigue posted:Another point of primes, which happens to be the most important to me, is that primes are less complicated and easier to make free of distortions, aberrations, and maximize sharpness. This is like the description of the 35/3.5.   e. But seriously it's one of the sharpest 35mm's you can buy, can be found for very cheap (under 100 bucks), and the m42 version adapts to canon very easily, even on FF. If you aren't planning on shooting at 35mm a lot, or if you're not worried about needing to shoot at f/1.4, it's an amazing deal for the quality. The same exact lens design is used in the 75/4.5 medium format lens for the pentax 6x7 system, and for good reason! e2. someone trade their 5d for my p67 setup already so I can use my 35/3.5 more often, tia. Dr. Despair fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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Jun 19, 2013 20:41
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Mr. Despair posted:e. But seriously it's one of the sharpest 35mm's you can buy, can be found for very cheap (under 100 bucks), and the m42 version adapts to canon very easily, even on FF. If you aren't planning on shooting at 35mm a lot, or if you're not worried about needing to shoot at f/1.4, it's an amazing deal for the quality. The same exact lens design is used in the 75/4.5 medium format lens for the pentax 6x7 system, and for good reason! It's around $60 on KEH so I might as well try it out. Do you have any thoughts on replacing the Canon 50/1.4 with the SMC Takumar 50/1.4? That could be a nice way to ditch the questionable build quality of the Canon while getting some cash back. Edit: $60 for the non-SMC. $90 for the SMC. Still gonna grab it. woot fatigue fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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woot fatigue posted:It's around $60 on KEH so I might as well try it out. Do you have any thoughts on replacing the Canon 50/1.4 with the SMC Takumar 50/1.4? That could be a nice way to ditch the questionable build quality of the Canon while getting some cash back. I'm not sure it's as sharp as the newer canon, but I've dropped my k mount 50/1.4 (pretty sure it's the same glass) several times (even onto concrete!) and it still works perfectly. Probably has more CA issues than the newer canon lens though. My 50 and 35 are both multicoated though (and the 75/4.5) so I dunno how big of a difference that makes compared to the non-smc ones.   wish my phones camera had a not lovely lens though
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Mr. Despair posted:I'm not sure it's as sharp as the newer canon, but I've dropped my k mount 50/1.4 (pretty sure it's the same glass) several times (even onto concrete!) and it still works perfectly. Probably has more CA issues than the newer canon lens though. I'd rather spend more than deal with CA issues. Well now you've sent me down a rabbit hole. Looking at Contax Zeiss options, then remembering wanting to convert an FD 35/2.8 TS to EF mount, then thinking about finding a 35 or 40mm medium format lens and getting a shift adapter, then thinking about just getting the 1.4x teleconverter for my TS-E 24... Anyways, when looking for shift adapters for canon I found this diamond of a thread on Model Mayhem where some dude insists that everyone is wrong and that there's no reason you can't make a $5 shift adapter for canon lenses on canon bodies. People keep trying to explain it to him and offer other options but he just can't comprehend. quote:I need a shift adapter for a 5D Canon that won't break the bank. Does anyone know who makes one? I want to use some of my other lenses with a shift adapter to take some catalog shots. I know I may loose AF but if anyone knows of one, please let me know! The lack of comprehension just keeps going and going - http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=372572
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Mr. Despair posted:e. But seriously it's one of the sharpest 35mm's you can buy, can be found for very cheap (under 100 bucks), and the m42 version adapts to canon very easily, even on FF. If you aren't planning on shooting at 35mm a lot, or if you're not worried about needing to shoot at f/1.4, it's an amazing deal for the quality. The same exact lens design is used in the 75/4.5 medium format lens for the pentax 6x7 system, and for good reason! I think between 35mm and 6x7 I own like 5 copies of this lens (3 k-mount, S-M-C-T M42, SMC-T 6x7) . Seriously it's one of my all-time favorite lenses. Mr. Despair posted:I'm not sure it's as sharp as the newer canon, but I've dropped my k mount 50/1.4 (pretty sure it's the same glass) several times (even onto concrete!) and it still works perfectly. Probably has more CA issues than the newer canon lens though. The K-series 50/1.4 is the same as the SMC Takumar 50/1.4. The -M variant is very slightly different. Super coating is still pretty great, it's usually single coating but they were also experimenting with early versions of SMC as they went so some of the later ones have 3- or 5-layer coatings instead of the full 7 in SMC. Single coating gets you most of the transmission percentage gains. However, some of the Super lenses are reputed to be less sharp than the SMC versions, your mileage may vary. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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Yeah, the CA is there, at least it's worse than say, my olyumpus 12-50 with it's fancy ED coatings and stuff. Could be worse though. This I *think* was the 50/1.4 wide open, you can see the touch of CA in the flare on the can.  P4231027.jpg by MrDespair, on Flickr This was the 35/3.5 wide open, showing off how well it handles flare even with the sun literally on the edge of the frame.  PIXELPEEPTEST by MrDespair, on Flickr I wish I had more examples with these lenses, but 70mm and 100mm on a m43 body just aren't something I shoot a whole lot, unless I'm stitching stuff together. Paul MaudDib posted:I think between 35mm and 6x7 I own like 5 copies of this lens (3 k-mount, S-M-C-T M42, SMC-T 6x7) . Seriously it's one of my all-time favorite lenses. The one I have is the SMC-M version.
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What's the consensus on mounting Nikon lenses on Canon? I'm looking at a PC-Nikkor 35/2.8 that gives 8mm of shift... There's also a Leica/Schneider PA-CURTAGON-R 35mm F4 that shifts but I can't really find anything in the way of reviews.
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woot fatigue posted:What's the consensus on mounting Nikon lenses on Canon? I'm looking at a PC-Nikkor 35/2.8 that gives 8mm of shift... Should work fine unless the lens goes far enough into the body to hit the mirror. I haven't heard of issues like that with nikon on canon though (it can be an issue with k mount lenses though, the aperture lever tends to hit the mirror if you don't take it out or bend it). e. a quick googling says that the rear element on that lens doesn't jut back past the mount, so it should be a-ok. e2. K-Rock says you should use a 4x5 view camera instead though. Dr. Despair fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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woot fatigue posted:What's the consensus on mounting Nikon lenses on Canon? I'm looking at a PC-Nikkor 35/2.8 that gives 8mm of shift... I've mounted plenty of Nikon lenses on my 10D and 5D2 without issue. I can also say that I once owned the PC-Nikkor 35/2.8 and it worked great on my 5D2 with an adapter... but it's no 24mm TS-E. pseudonordic has my former PC-Nikkor now and I'm pretty sure he does stitched panoramas with it, so you should ask him how he likes it for that purpose.
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^Which version was your PC-Nikkor? Silver knob or black knob? Yep, I think I'm going to go with the newer, black-knob version of the PC-Nikkor 35/2.8. It's got 11mm of shift and goes to f32 for under $400.
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