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It's too late for Wolverine for now in terms of movie ratings. He's one of Marvel's flagship characters alongside Spider-man and he's in practically every X-Men cartoon. Practically every demographic that loves superheroes knows him. No way he's going to be in anything rated higher than PG13 for a while. Even Ghost Rider 2 had to be made PG13.
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I hope the new Wolverine film bombs like The Lone Ranger, After Earth and White House Down. I'm entirely sick of the character on film. The damage the X-films have done to those characters will take years to fix. I'll probably see Days of Future Past, so long as the early reviews don't cut too deep. The only thing it had going for it was resetting the continuity using First Class as a jumping board. Now, I just want them all to trip over their own feet on some stairs.
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Jul 9, 2013 13:31
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It's like they took the criticism of how lovely and fake the CGI on Wolverine's claws was in Origins and decided to make everything look that way so it wouldn't stand out. Amazing.
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Jul 9, 2013 13:34
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What's sad is the mansion invasion in X2 gave me chills because it was just so god drat good at both showing Wolverine as a killing machine and being a pinch brutal for PG13 ( thinking of the fridge as an excellent "oh poo poo" moment but without blood ). After that everything the character has been in has been a joke.
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Jul 9, 2013 13:54
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The best XMen movie has the least amount of Wolverine. I think I see the pattern here.
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Jul 9, 2013 13:57
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Jamesman posted:Dawn remake was terrible. And even if you did like it, go watch Super and continue worrying. Yes, it truly was terrible. You're not writing a sequel to 28 Days Later, guy.
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Jul 9, 2013 13:59
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Apparently Hugh Jackman has said he would never turn down playing the character because he finds it so fun. I think this should be taken to a satisfyingly ludicrous conclusion.
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Jul 9, 2013 14:32
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Danger posted:Apparently Hugh Jackman has said he would never turn down playing the character because he finds it so fun. I think this should be taken to a satisfyingly ludicrous conclusion. Wolverine 4: The Quest for Peace
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Jul 9, 2013 14:36
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Danger posted:Apparently Hugh Jackman has said he would never turn down playing the character because he finds it so fun. I think this should be taken to a satisfyingly ludicrous conclusion. There's a storyline in the comic where Wolverine, as principal of the Jean Grey School, must obtain more funding for the institution. So he takes a selection of his students to a space casino. Fox, please adapt that arc.
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Jul 9, 2013 15:19
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The MSJ posted:There's a storyline in the comic where Wolverine, as principal of the Jean Grey School, must obtain more funding for the institution. So he takes a selection of his students to a space casino. Just adapt all of the run of Wolverine and the X-Men so we can get Rockslide and Doop involved too.
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Jul 9, 2013 15:50
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We were talking about the insanity of the Spider-Man comic strip earlier. I don't have the Clown 9 strips, but this is what is happened in the comic strip recently:         If Stan Lee is still writing this, just make him draft the story of the next Marvel movie.
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Jul 9, 2013 16:34
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The MSJ posted:We were talking about the insanity of the Spider-Man comic strip earlier. I don't have the Clown 9 strips, but this is what is happened in the comic strip recently: This is the best thing ever. My local paper doesn't have the Spider-Man strips, are there any (obviously legal) places that I can see them online? I recall some strips like Luann and others having their own website..
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Jul 9, 2013 17:02
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ThermoPhysical posted:This is the best thing ever. My local paper doesn't have the Spider-Man strips, are there any (obviously legal) places that I can see them online? I recall some strips like Luann and others having their own website.. Seattle Pi seems to be a popular place to get them.
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Jul 9, 2013 17:28
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Jul 9, 2013 18:34
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So before MoS came out a lot of people were still using the line about superman "How can you make an interesting story about someone who's invincible?". I'd like to apply that to Wolverine. Superman you can say that he has villains that can fight on an equal footing and a good writer can give him conflict involving his morals and humanity, but Wolverine... he doesn't have morals to challenge, really, and he's fighting normal people here, and he instantly heals from any damage dealt to him.
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Jul 9, 2013 18:49
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Yonic Symbolism posted:I'd like to apply that to Wolverine.  That's pretty interesting. 
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Jul 9, 2013 18:58
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Oh snap, do I smell a new round of Spider-man avatars?
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Jul 9, 2013 18:59
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Yonic Symbolism posted:So before MoS came out a lot of people were still using the line about superman "How can you make an interesting story about someone who's invincible?". I'd like to apply that to Wolverine. Superman you can say that he has villains that can fight on an equal footing and a good writer can give him conflict involving his morals and humanity, but Wolverine... he doesn't have morals to challenge, really, and he's fighting normal people here, and he instantly heals from any damage dealt to him. He does have morals to challenge from the standpoint of having an exceedingly long life where he has repeatedly made mistakes and tried to atone for them and found that his immortality can't actually fix the problem. Add ontop of that he has Sabertooth (lame, I know) to fill the role of equally strong and regenerative foe and you have a decent set of basic tools for a character. The strongest part of the Wolverine: Origins film was the pastiche of wars he fought in including the US Civil War and something like a period piece/s for an immortal warrior could definitely be interesting as he fights across wars undying and trying to learn something other than how to be the best at what he does. You could also go low-key revenge film where he visits a city from long in his past in [insert exotic locale] to pay homage to a dead line of his family and swears revenge on their killers. Edit: Cheap pathos calls for both oppressors and oppressed to be his descendents.
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Jul 9, 2013 19:08
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The MSJ posted:We were talking about the insanity of the Spider-Man comic strip earlier. I don't have the Clown 9 strips, but this is what is happened in the comic strip recently: I swear to god I haven't read the Comic Strip Megathread in like 2-3 years, but I distinctly remember "Peter Parker agonizes over keeping his identity secret through airport security" being an issue when I did. Only that time it didn't involve Surprise Obama at the end. This is a problem Newspaper Spider-Man repeatedly has to deal with. 
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Jul 9, 2013 19:11
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A Big Dark Yak posted:I swear to god I haven't read the Comic Strip Megathread in like 2-3 years, but I distinctly remember "Peter Parker agonizes over keeping his identity secret through airport security" being an issue when I did. Only that time it didn't involve Surprise Obama at the end. Do not forget the issue where Spider-Man and Dare Devil meet up in costume and Peter Mentions needing a contact in the city for legal council so DD tells him to meet Matt Murdock. Then, instead of showing up at Matt Murdock's dressed as Spider-Man he goes as Peter Parker to ask the same question. Then he and DD realize they're both super heroes and undress and costume themselves to prove their super heroes then get back into normal clothes to keep talking inside Matt's large windowed office. All this I might add, after Peter Parket in plain clothes rode on a spiderweb hanging from the back of a 16 Wheeler from Las Vegas to San Francisco in broad daylight on the highway.
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Jul 9, 2013 19:18
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Yonic Symbolism posted:So before MoS came out a lot of people were still using the line about superman "How can you make an interesting story about someone who's invincible?". I'd like to apply that to Wolverine. Superman you can say that he has villains that can fight on an equal footing and a good writer can give him conflict involving his morals and humanity, but Wolverine... he doesn't have morals to challenge, really, and he's fighting normal people here, and he instantly heals from any damage dealt to him. The plot of the newest movie is that a Japanese businessman has found a way to "cure" his immortality and Wolverine accepts it. Then after he can no longer heal the Yakuza or something are after him.
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Jul 9, 2013 19:22
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Grendels Dad posted:Yeah, the only thing that Dredd proved was that lovely marketing and limited release will not make your movie a lot of money. 
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Jul 9, 2013 21:13
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What we need is a Wolverine musical with Bollywood style dancing from the X-Men.
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Jul 9, 2013 22:37
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Devour posted:I remember them saying the 2nd one would be about Judge Dredd's back story
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Jul 10, 2013 08:39
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TetsuoTW posted:gently caress that, I don't need or want Dredd Begins. I don't want to know why he is how he is, that'd ruin it. They've done plenty of examination of this topic in the comics and it hasn't ruined anything. My guess is they would be doing some Cursed Earth stuff and maybe a new attempt at Rico for it, and that would be great.
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Jul 10, 2013 08:46
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Barudak posted:The strongest part of the Wolverine: Origins film was the pastiche of wars he fought in including the US Civil War and something like a period piece/s for an immortal warrior could definitely be interesting as he fights across wars undying and trying to learn something other than how to be the best at what he does. You could also go low-key revenge film where he visits a city from long in his past in [insert exotic locale] to pay homage to a dead line of his family and swears revenge on their killers. My memory is vague on this, but I remember a story where someone was out for revenge against Wolverine for something so he kept sending assassins after him. Naturally that only served to piss off Wolverine so he went to this guy's not so secret base and cut his way through the guy's soldiers and then stabbed him. Only before dying the guy revealed that half of the soldiers Wolverine had killed were Wolverine's own kids that he had fathered all over the world in the last couple of decades and then forgot about like the deadbeat dad that he is. That seems to cover most of what you've suggested. I'd watch it, if only for the epic Nooooooooooo Hugh Jackman would deliver at the end.
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Jul 10, 2013 09:30
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Vin Diesel had a meeting with Marvel.
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Jul 10, 2013 13:30
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There was a link on that site mentioning that Fox has ordered a pilot for a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen TV series, which I can't say I saw coming.
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TetsuoTW posted:gently caress that, I don't need or want Dredd Begins. I don't want to know why he is how he is, that'd ruin it. I never really read 2000AD but I like to imagine Dredd Begins would take about five minutes and just be him enlisting as a judge after spending his childhood in a lovely, crime filled tower block, and even when he's a kid they never show the top half of his face. He doesn't seem like a guy with an exciting or tragic past, and the fact that the city is so awful and that these Judges are what counts as average law enforcement felt like a big part of the whole setting to me.
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Jul 10, 2013 14:21
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Hmmm...he's bald...which means he's going to be the next writer on a Marvel book. Perhaps Fantastic Four.
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Jul 10, 2013 14:45
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I think he's Giant Man now due to the frame in the back.
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Jul 10, 2013 14:53
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TetsuoTW posted:gently caress that, I don't need or want Dredd Begins. I don't want to know why he is how he is, that'd ruin it. Not that it matters now anyway because there ain't gonna be poo poo but don't worry, that dude had it all wrong, there was never going to be a Dredd Begins. The second film would have explored the Cursed Earth a bit, so probably the Angel gang and stuff, with the third wrapping things up with everyone's favourite supernatural interdimensional murderbros.
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Jul 10, 2013 14:53
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Rhyno posted:Oh snap, do I smell a new round of Spider-man avatars? The answer to your question is obviously
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FlamingLiberal posted:There was a link on that site mentioning that Fox has ordered a pilot for a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen TV series, which I can't say I saw coming. Is it even possible for Alan Moore to get angrier at the world at this point?
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Jul 10, 2013 17:31
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jscolon2.0 posted:Is it even possible for Alan Moore to get angrier at the world at this point? His cave is about to get a new sub level.
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Red Bones posted:I never really read 2000AD but I like to imagine Dredd Begins would take about five minutes and just be him enlisting as a judge after spending his childhood in a lovely, crime filled tower block, and even when he's a kid they never show the top half of his face. He doesn't seem like a guy with an exciting or tragic past, and the fact that the city is so awful and that these Judges are what counts as average law enforcement felt like a big part of the whole setting to me. He's a clone of the previous head Judge. One of many clones, in fact. The only one who didn't at some point go psychopathic in some way or another. He's got a pretty interesting back story.
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I keep getting the Vibe that Electro is going to be an outfit that looks terrible in pictures but wonderful when its animated on the screen.
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I still havent seen ASM but man, the new guy looks freaking perfect as Spider-Man. The costume, his build, the big white eyes, it's lightyears beyond the Raimi movies.
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Barudak posted:I keep getting the Vibe that Electro is going to be an outfit that looks terrible in pictures but wonderful when its animated on the screen. Seems like electricity is supposed to be spazzing out underneath his skin and lighting it up. Like if you hold a flashlight up against your hand and it glows through your skin, except in this case the flashlight is a lightning storm and it is inside of him. It's not a bad concept, at least.
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