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What justlysarcastic said is basically true, but I don't think Milla's route is so confusing or lacking that players should feel the need to steer clear of it on a first play through. Players need to play both routes to get a full picture of what happens, anyway. In particular, if you think you're only going to play the game once, you may as well play the hero you feel you'd like more. Jude's side does edge out Milla's in terms of content, but Milla's is far more cool and should be appealing to those who are tired of the typical JRPG/anime themes found in Tales games. And yes, Xillia does have a lot of jargon. I don't know if it's Abyss level, because spirits and mana are pretty familiar words to everyone, but there's definitely a lot of taking about magic like it's science going on.
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I heard Milla has a cool fighting style that involves him fusing Spells into her sword artes is this true?
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ruta posted:And yes, Xillia does have a lot of jargon. I don't know if it's Abyss level, because spirits and mana are pretty familiar words to everyone, but there's definitely a lot of taking about magic like it's science going on. Xillia does indeed have a ton of jargon surrounding the world. I had to turn to the Internet after beating the game because I didn't know what the gently caress was going on.
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Jul 10, 2013 13:23
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There's one forced major route split between Milla/Jude that lasts a few hours. Aside from that, they're basically together most of the time, which frequent splits during town sequences stuff which is the 'viewpoint' aspect of it. Personally I did Milla route and had no regrets. A five minute conversation with a friend on what happens on the Jude side was all I needed (although it was typical anime stuff).Megalixir posted:Xillia does indeed have a ton of jargon surrounding the world. I had to turn to the Internet after beating the game because I didn't know what the gently caress was going on. MonsterEnvy posted:I heard Milla has a cool fighting style that involves him fusing Spells into her sword artes is this true? I hope they don't change the VA for that. Nothing like spamming "Higher than the sky!" to be 10 meters in the air and come crashing down with earth dive or whatever. Rascyc fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Jul 10, 2013 |
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Jul 10, 2013 13:32
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ruta posted:What justlysarcastic said is basically true, but I don't think Milla's route is so confusing or lacking that players should feel the need to steer clear of it on a first play through. The big issue with it was that, in the Japanese version, Jude came across as really whiny and a bit pointless when you played from Milla's perspective. Hopefully Jude's new voice acting helps there.
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Well after trying for 2 months I've come to the conclusion that I just can't finish Tales of Graces F. I loved almost every Tales games up to this point and the combat system is good but god drat the characters, story and other changes from Vesperia like the lack of an overworld map make me want to claw my eyes out. I have zero motivation to finish it as it seems like it has no redeeming value in any other aspect of the game, my only real enjoyment comes from beating up the enemies which have a rollercoaster balance to them. It feels like I'm constantly retreading ground in this game too so even the artwork and etc is grating on me. I'm wondering if these games just aren't for me anymore and maybe I should cancel my Xillia preorder. Is it a lot like Graces or more like Vesperia?
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Jul 10, 2013 14:12
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Combat's a lot closer to Vesperia. Story is also much better since it's a bigger focus of the game. However, most of the cast is younger again so they might annoy you in that way. Jude is far more annoying than Asbel in the Japanese version.
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Jul 10, 2013 14:26
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World mechanics are closer to Graces F though. There's no overland map, and instead you have the interconnected areas much like Graces F (they're a little prettier but it's still like 3-4 connected areas of the same thing and lots of monsters to kill) They iterated on the Graces F design though and give you fast travel right off the bat. There are also many skits that occur that tell you something might be happening in a past location and you should go check it out so you can just pop the map, click a town and there you go. If you burnt on Graces F's final dungeon before the f-arc, or in the f-arc, I wouldn't sweat it. Those areas are in fact wonky balanced and I don't remember any of that in Xillia. Xillia is also a much shorter game than Graces F story+Farc or Vesperia's 3-stories-in-one. I think my Milla-side playthrough was just a little under 40 hours before post-game content.
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I don't really mind the age of the cast but the story and characters in Graces F were absurdly unrelatable and annoying, I hope that's different. Also the dungeon design in Graces F was some of the laziest and most annoying poo poo I've had to deal with since the early PSX ones so if that is better in Xillia then I will be happy. I didn't make it to the future arc, everyone tells me thats when the game gets good but I've got a ton of other games to play and haven't been enjoying it since the first few hours.
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The Ages don't seem too bad for Xillia. Milla is 20, Jude and Leia are 15, Elise is 12 (These 3 are the youngest) Alvin is 26 and Rowan is 62.
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Does Jude have grabs? They were the best part about playing the dude from Legendia. Also he's 15 lmao
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The Gunslinger posted:I didn't make it to the future arc, everyone tells me thats when the game gets good but I've got a ton of other games to play and haven't been enjoying it since the first few hours. The only part where the future arc "gets good" is the skits, which are amazing. The story is still bad and the dungeon design gets even worse, if you can believe it. Also you don't seem to be aware that, since Symphonia, there have been two separate teams working on Tales games, one who made Symphona/Abyss/Vesperia and one who made all those Japan-exclusive ones and Graces. They've since merged together and Xillia is the first game post-merger.
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I always thought Symphonia/Symphonia 2 was annoying with the poo poo ton of teleporter dungeons until I played Graces F. That game's dungeon design was just cruel.
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Eddain posted:I always thought Symphonia/Symphonia 2 was annoying with the poo poo ton of teleporter dungeons until I played Graces F. That game's dungeon design was just cruel. Cruelly dull, you mean. Only Future Arc was annoying and that only had four new dungeons to its name, with retreads of two of them (Though said retreads had new enemies and the latter one had a whole extra area tacked onto the end for the purpose of items).
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I wouldn't say so. With things like Wallbridge and everything on Fodra, the main arc's dungeons were horrible too. I loved the fighting way too much, and the characters were good (when they had nothing to do with the plot) but the dungeons were poo poo.
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Momomo posted:I wouldn't say so. With things like Wallbridge and everything on Fodra, the main arc's dungeons were horrible too. I loved the fighting way too much, and the characters were good (when they had nothing to do with the plot) but the dungeons were poo poo. Ugh, I recently went back to replay ToGf and forgot that I was in the middle of Lambda's Cocoon, and while the fighting is still fun as hell (though I have 10x Damage on and dumped a ton of money on DLC because I prefer being overpowered I guess.) I can't bring myself to finishing that drat dungeon again just so I can get the rest of the titles. Not like I'll ever have all the titles anyway because those bastards cut out the Idolmaster costumes and such. Did they ever give a valid reason as to why they cut out the costumes for properties they own?
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Because gently caress gaijin  Actually my guess is that they sold the US or EU rights to Idolmaster to some other company and would have to buy it back or something.
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wdarkk posted:Because gently caress gaijin Maybe the EU rights but Namdai has Idolmaster crap in their PS Home stuff from what I hear and they've apparently released an iOS app or two in the US as well, they just don't like to release the actual games in the US is all. And I actually didn't care so much about those, I mainly wanted the Geass costumes and Haseo, with those they had NO excuse, not even in Europe. Miku and Toro were the only ones they said they had copyright difficulties with so I wasn't really expecting those but I was expecting the stuff they said was Okay.
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Momomo posted:I wouldn't say so. With things like Wallbridge and everything on Fodra, the main arc's dungeons were horrible too. I loved the fighting way too much, and the characters were good (when they had nothing to do with the plot) but the dungeons were poo poo. Wallbridge is pretty bad, almost to the point where I wonder what the gently caress I ever did to the devs to deserve it. They really need to fire their dungeon designers, I am not touching Xillia or Xillia 2 if the dungeons in that are anywhere near as obnoxious.
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Wallbridge's layout was somewhat confusing but I don't think it was that terrible. It was just boring.
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Wallbridge took me forever the first time though, since I had no idea what I was looking for and every path seemed to be blocked off.
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Wallbridge is giant pain in the rear end, but I didn't really mind any other dungeons. Mainly because it's hard for dungeons to grate on you when you really enjoy every fight you get into.
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Momomo posted:Wallbridge took me forever the first time though, since I had no idea what I was looking for and every path seemed to be blocked off. 
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http://www.uk.namcobandaigames.eu/community/topics/official-tales-of-interview-with-hideo-baba-at-japan-expo-and-all-the-events-on-video So, did you guys see this? quote:Aurora: Recently, a poll was made by Sony to ask gamers most wanted Vita’s J-RPG to get localized, and both Tales titles made it to the top. Could it makes change your mind about localize them ? quote:Aurora: Did you planned to localize one day old Tales games, like Tales of Destiny remake for PS2, wich has the reputation to be the best remake ever done in the whole Tales of Series?
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Tales isn't well-known? It's not doing Final Fantasy numbers or anything but I think most people would still recognize the name from Symphonia back on the Gamecube.
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RMZXAnarchy posted:Not like I'll ever have all the titles anyway because those bastards cut out the Idolmaster costumes and such. Did they ever give a valid reason as to why they cut out the costumes for properties they own? There's only two reasons I can think of: 1. They couldn't license the battle music for them (the rights are probably held by the composers) 2. They didn't think to record the victory skit lines and didn't want to bring them over without those
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Endorph posted:Tales isn't well-known? It's not doing Final Fantasy numbers or anything but I think most people would still recognize the name from Symphonia back on the Gamecube. Regardless, he's right when he says it's not a system seller, at least not for enough people to make a difference.
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Mokinokaro posted:There's only two reasons I can think of: The first one makes sense for the ones that had battle music but the last one sounds like laziness more than anything else.
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Welp I guess I may as well import Tales of Hearts R too then. I need to finish Innocence R one day.
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RMZXAnarchy posted:but the last one sounds like laziness more than anything else. The other possibility is that the scripts provided by Bandai to the localization company (yes, there's an external company involved in every Tales localization since Abyss) just didn't include them and it was an oversight. They happen.
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Hey, as long as we get the Madoka costumes in Xillia 2 I'll be satisfied... ...that's not going to happen either, is it.
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Volt Catfish posted:Hey, as long as we get the Madoka costumes in Xillia 2 I'll be satisfied... Considering there seems to be licensing issues with them in JAPAN, I doubt it. They were only on PSN for six months or something before being pulled.
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Why can't companies just go "We get a cut of that DLC's sales, and it's free advertising for us? Go right ahead!"
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There are other things to think about though, like whether the game gives the right impression of what they want to advertise. I don't know anything about Idolmaster, but I wouldn't want people thinking it's anything like Asbel and Cheria.
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Skychrono posted:Does Xilia 1 have a proper cameo battle? Nope. Xillia 2 has it though.
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Mokinokaro posted:Considering there seems to be licensing issues with them in JAPAN, I doubt it. They were only on PSN for six months or something before being pulled. That was rights issues? I thought it was just a "Limited Time" deal. But yeah, there's no way in hell we'll get the Madoka costumes.
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One question about Xillia. Is there a one on one duel in Xillia? It's a silly thing, but the one on one duels were always my favorite bits of the game. It annoyed the crap out of me that Graces didn't have any real ones Yeah, there were the party duels, but those didn't really have the same feel to them that stuff like Luke VS Asch 2 and Yuri VS Flynn did. They had a great setup for a Asbel VS Richard duel too and never used it.
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Mokinokaro posted:Nope. Xillia 2 has it though. Maaaaaan.  Thanks though.
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