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Insert name here posted:I don't even know like half the in-game names of the guns because I never read them. The only one you need to know is the Mosconi.
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Lasher posted:Know what I didn't expect from the game? The music to be so loving awesome. The music in the first game was better in my opinion, the PD2 soundtrack is great of course but in PD1 each heist having its own track which changed according to the situation and ramped up into an assault version was just superb.
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Aliginge posted:As a gun nerd also, I get that you prefer to call these guns what they are but it gets confusing for people who aren't TFR nerds so I personally prefer calling these guns by their in-game name. Especially since the game has 4 separate AR derivatives/variants.
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Aug 25, 2013 12:47
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Man, I hope we get to steal, like, big poo poo soon. I hate that we're in DC but there's no "Hit the Treasury Building" heist or "Steal something from the Smithsonian" or something similar.
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Well, that was the perfect sendoff to an evening of excellent heisting. I found a group of pubbies who were roundly competent and we went through Rats, Firestarter and Bank Heist at very hard-overkill a few times together and racked up solid cash. And then we went in for one final round of Rats, just on Hard difficulty. And then they started cooking meth. And they kept cooking meth. And they didn't leave the house because they wanted to cook more meth. Four bags. Six bags. I'd fallen into a targeting trance, acquiring target and terminating with the mosconi, over and over. Seven bags. I began to wonder if this was some kind of hell. Eight bags. "ok i think we're ready" said one of them. Not even the host. They hadn't co-ordinated this in any chat I had access to, and they'd gone through Rats before with me entirely normally. Anyway, turns out I killed 108 cops that round, but whatever. Lotsa money, right? Next level. The gangsters betray us. Cops swarm in. Suddenly everybody's on their asses and we lose. Nice big fat gently caress you in the form of 0xp for the day to go with it. "Well, it's been good but I'm done for the night," I said. "Hail satan," said the leader of the pubbies. "Hail satan indeed," I responded, and wandered away.
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Grapplejack posted:Man, I hope we get to steal, like, big poo poo soon. I hate that we're in DC but there's no "Hit the Treasury Building" heist or "Steal something from the Smithsonian" or something similar. Historically, game devs and other fiction creators receive polite calls from the government if they're planning to depict attacks on government facilities, especially in DC, and especially the White House. I think the Secret Service are the ones who do it. It's not that the government try to stop you from rendering such an attack (they legally can't, with an incredibly narrow exception for express guidance/incitement), they just don't want anyone to even think that the depictions might work as a sort of blueprint. I hear a classic example of this is the White House mission at the end of Hitman: Blood Money. The usual solution, as seen in that game, is that the end product is so unlike the actual building/security that no one would think they could rely on it to carry out an attack. Long story short, if the Overkill folks do render a Treasury or White House heist, it will probably take them longer to make and look very little like the real thing. If they were going to hit anything, my vote would be the National Archives.
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This is probably a dumb question, but is this game worth getting in its current state? I've read through a few pages of the thread and I get the impression its frustrating to play unless you're leveled high, as well as other frustrating stuff. Should I just wait for an influx of new players before I try this game?
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Aug 25, 2013 14:41
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Discendo Vox posted:If they were going to hit anything, my vote would be the National Archives. Which is the building circled most heavily on the map on the wall of the Safehouse.
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CerebralDonut posted:This is probably a dumb question, but is this game worth getting in its current state? I've read through a few pages of the thread and I get the impression its frustrating to play unless you're leveled high, as well as other frustrating stuff. Should I just wait for an influx of new players before I try this game? As long as you've got some buddies (either IRL friends with the game or some goons) to help you over the initial level hump, you'll be golden. It's honestly not as frustrating as some have made it out to be; a few heists of "learning the ropes" and you'll be ready to go.
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CerebralDonut posted:This is probably a dumb question, but is this game worth getting in its current state? I've read through a few pages of the thread and I get the impression its frustrating to play unless you're leveled high, as well as other frustrating stuff. Should I just wait for an influx of new players before I try this game? I wouldn't call it frustrating to play at a low level, like, at all. You can play pretty well the moment you get rid of your starting weapon which is almost immediately. The main issue is the dearth of content: it's got fewer missions than it really needs and I don't know how likely it is there will be free DLC anytime soon. I am and still will have a fuckton of fun, but it seriously needs more missions.
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Yeah plus I've only played one match up to now with pubbies that felt like I was the only one who wasn't playing COD. Actually just ghosted a really high level jewel theft with a random gang just then.
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CerebralDonut posted:This is probably a dumb question, but is this game worth getting in its current state? I've read through a few pages of the thread and I get the impression its frustrating to play unless you're leveled high, as well as other frustrating stuff. Should I just wait for an influx of new players before I try this game? This game is fun as hell to play, ignore the people in this thread who moan about not getting sparkly bits for their blingy guns after every run. If you get in a goon group you will level up quickly, and teamwork is more useful than any of the skills, weapons or mods.
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Aug 25, 2013 15:00
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DatonKallandor posted:Which is the building circled most heavily on the map on the wall of the Safehouse. I wonder if it'll be a heist of the original Constitution, or maybe the Declaration of Independence? How the gently caress would you even like, fence those though?
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Aug 25, 2013 15:08
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DatonKallandor posted:Which is the building circled most heavily on the map on the wall of the Safehouse. The goverment is more than happy to supply game developers with information on the National Archives in hopes they will figure out a way to organize the entire history of everything for them. That is the real heist.
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I'm seeing a lot of people who seem to be using the CAR-4 on overkill. Just how viable is it? I do the regular AK7.62 and AMR-16 thing for my assault rifles, but I would like to mix it up more with cute little carbines.
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Aug 25, 2013 15:13
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Grapplejack posted:I wonder if it'll be a heist of the original Constitution, or maybe the Declaration of Independence? How the gently caress would you even like, fence those though? You don't. On the back of the Declaration of Independence is ANOTHER TREASURE MAP
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Howser wanted to see this one from one of our games tonight, so here you go, dude.  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=172724726 BRIS!
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Grapplejack posted:I wonder if it'll be a heist of the original Constitution, or maybe the Declaration of Independence? How the gently caress would you even like, fence those though? Some things you don't do for money. You do it to say you did.
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Great Beer posted:Some things you don't do for money. You do it to say you did. Also to smoke a blunt out of the declaration.
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This is from a page back but please hold off on that. A few days ago I had the game flip the gently caress out and show half my crew as being able to enter the vault and half not. So to two of the people playing it looked like me and the other guy were wall hacking.
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Do the skills cross all the classes? Will I still get my Enforcer shotgun perks playing as a Tech for example? I only ask because I didn't realise before diving in that techs get cheaper weapons and masks.
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Lasher posted:Do the skills cross all the classes? Will I still get my Enforcer shotgun perks playing as a Tech for example? I only ask because I didn't realise before diving in that techs get cheaper weapons and masks. The game doesn't really have classes so you never really play as a Tech/Enforcer/Ghost/Mastermind per se, you can just buy whatever skills you have the skillpoints, money and access to. For instance I have maxed out Enforcer but am also dumping points into Mastermind cos that is where the fun stuff is, I know guys who have almost all of the basic skills across the four trees.
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Aliginge posted:The game doesn't really have classes so you never really play as a Tech/Enforcer/Ghost/Mastermind per se, you can just buy whatever skills you have the skillpoints, money and access to. Excellent. Ta mate. I want to be able to fill any gaps in a team but I just love my shotgun too much to swap it out. Also I remember hearing you can carry bodies if you've been undetected and "tag" guards and the like. How does that work? edit: Ignore me they're all ghost perks. Diesel Fucker fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Aug 25, 2013 |
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Grapplejack posted:I wonder if it'll be a heist of the original Constitution, or maybe the Declaration of Independence? How the gently caress would you even like, fence those though? Secret Hidden Burial Chamber of Baldwin, Kinght (king?) of Jersualem or Secret Hidden Treasure Chamber containing the Diamond Necklace of Marie Antoinette. Either way, it's probably not going to be a simple "steal the thing that's known to be in there"-heist.
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DatonKallandor posted:Secret Hidden Burial Chamber of Baldwin, Kinght (king?) of Jersualem or Secret Hidden Treasure Chamber containing the Diamond Necklace of Marie Antoinette. Either way, it's probably not going to be a simple "steal the thing that's known to be in there"-heist. The heist is to break in and plant the Elephant's forged US Birth Certificate.
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Lasher posted:Excellent. Ta mate. I want to be able to fill any gaps in a team but I just love my shotgun too much to swap it out. Calling out guards isn't a perk; everyone can do that. Bagging bodies is super useful; I crawled up the mastermind tree to get aced Joker then clawed my way up Ghost to get bodybags. Edit: motherfucker. I recorded during the glitched run, but OBS wasn't getting any video. I took a few screencaps though. H2SO4 fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Aug 25, 2013 |
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The White Dragon posted:One might say this is less indicative of the new improved strength of Tasers and more on the shoulders of your buddy who decided to play in traffic Total Waingro moment. Also this banner ad is appropriate for this thread: 
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Acquire Currency! posted:Nothing breaks your will like trying to play Frames and Oil with pubbies. Seriously, gently caress em'. I actually managed to finally complete Big Oil with a group of pubbies. Though it was an unusually competent group, that did things like *help kill the Bulldozer that was chasing me through the house on Day 2* and were otherwise pretty good at murdering things and using bullets well. I told them to cover me while I found the right engine. They were plenty patient even though I probably took a bit too long. Things got a bit hairy at the end, where I think me and another guy had absolutely zero ammo left, no ammo bags, and I'm basically stranded out on the runway weighed down by the engine, but we pulled it off. That run also confirmed something I didn't quite know - the cops dynamically take objectives, rather than it being scripted. I've seen them run in and kick the drill on the downstairs door to instantly jam it before, but if you keep them away from the power box at the main door, the power will never go out (unless they hit a different box..but I'm not sure where/how).  Seems obvious in hindsight, and as I recall was also a thing in PD1 (though only in the DLC maps and was more of a pain in the rear end), but it never clicked with me until now. Though I suppose it's really only useful to know for Big Oil and maybe Frames.
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Alain Perdrix posted:I'm seeing a lot of people who seem to be using the CAR-4 on overkill. Just how viable is it? I do the regular AK7.62 and AMR-16 thing for my assault rifles, but I would like to mix it up more with cute little carbines. I could see people using it on overkill regularly with rifle-focused skills. I bet modded out with all the rifle perks, + the ammo bag infinite ammo skill you could literally drop a bag, line up at head-level on a gigantic pack of cops, and hold the button down and not really need to move the house to keep it steady enough to dole out hundreds of bullets worth of headshots.
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So I saw a crazy awesome looking changelog floating around the internets that might be released soon. Does anyone know when the devs plan to release their next patch?
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GO gently caress YOURSELF posted:So I saw a crazy awesome looking changelog floating around the internets that might be released soon. Does anyone know when the devs plan to release their next patch? Link it?
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I have the 308 for primary and the locomotive for secondary. I tried the mosconi but the loss in range and accuracy was not worth it.
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Now that I have a bunch of mods for Bronco and Desert Eagle, I can safely say that while the Bronco now hits where I aim it, it falls short against armored enemies bouncing half the bullets of its small capacity.
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GO gently caress YOURSELF posted:So I saw a crazy awesome looking changelog floating around the internets that might be released soon. Does anyone know when the devs plan to release their next patch? Why would you even post that without linking it!?
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 Man, I remember in Payday 1 when the Loco was "a piece of poo poo ugh why would you use that except for a joke UGH you offend my MLG skills, literally NO LITERAL REASON to use anything other than GL40"Now lil loco done all grown up  Fabricated posted:I could see people using it on overkill regularly with rifle-focused skills.
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Time for a massive post!kloa posted:So what's everyone's favorite AR? I want to use the AMCAR but holy poo poo does it run out of bullets fast. I'm using the CAR4 and it seems to have the best balance overall for loud/silence builds. Lasher posted:That mask is faaaabulous! Insert name here posted:For ARs only my go to weapons on overkill are the AKM and M16. After that I have the AUG and the LR 300 (CAR-4) if I want to mix it up. The AUG in particular is surprisingly good once you have the Leadership skill aced (50% recoil reduction on everything) and get a hang of the recoil since it's a loving tack driver, having a higher base accuracy than the M14. On lower difficulties I also have the Ak 5 which is really fun to use but you really feel the lack of damage on overkill, though if I know I'm running with a good crew I'll take it sometimes anyway cause I can get away with it. *The LR300! That's why the CAR4 seemed so familiar, because I was saw it in STALKER all the drat time! Man, why is it so great here and so crap in those games? *That's why I recommend people go back and play some games on normal difficulty using other weapons. A lot of the weapons in this game would be a hell of a lot more useful and would allow for a lot more variation in choice if they just boosted their stats a little bit. The MP5 in particular would be a fantastic secondary if they just boosted it's damage a little bit. It really feels to me like there's a whole different set up of weapon tiers depending on your current difficulty. *Do you really recommend the AUG? It's been like a siren calling to me for a long time with that huge accuracy rating but the recoil and the fact that I can't do much about it without taking a huge hit to mobility mean I've been hesitant to use it. I guess once I get some more mods for it I'll give it a test run. Insert name here posted:I don't even know like half the in-game names of the guns because I never read them. Alain Perdrix posted:I'm seeing a lot of people who seem to be using the CAR-4 on overkill. Just how viable is it? I do the regular AK7.62 and AMR-16 thing for my assault rifles, but I would like to mix it up more with cute little carbines. Personally, I'd like to see a 7 day heist involving the white house. It would be called "The Buck Stops Here" and completing it would be the only way to unlock president masks.
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Alain Perdrix posted:I'm seeing a lot of people who seem to be using the CAR-4 on overkill. Just how viable is it? I do the regular AK7.62 and AMR-16 thing for my assault rifles, but I would like to mix it up more with cute little carbines. I ran the CAR all the way up to the AMR unlocked. I equipped anything that would give +Damage and found it good to use. Headshots are better with all weapons and the CAR is no exception. My initial concern with the AMR was overall capacity - but in the big-boy leagues at least one person has double capacity ammo bags. I still have the CAR with the suppressed barrel - it allows you to maintain stealth while still having a Locomotive for close range clean up.
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Hemish posted:Why would you even post that without linking it!? They're making a bunch of 'Dream' patchnotes on the steam forums (see here so I'd take any unofficial patch notes with grains of salt.
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